Backing Up Pi?? Balena Etcher?? #raspberrypi


John
 

If I use an image maker  like Balena Etcher to make an image from my Pi SDcard, will it copy everything on the card or only the operating system?  

I make so many errors it would be nice not to go back to square one each time.  I would like to have both the operating system and my files on a backuo SDcard.

John,  W0GN


 

It will copy everything including the card's formatting information. Howerer, if you back up to a larger card, it will end up the same usable size as the original card. You have to use gparted or something similar to expand the new file system.


On 09/07/2021 14:19 John <radio@netins.net> wrote:


If I use an image maker like Balena Etcher to make an image from my Pi SDcard, will it copy everything on the card or only the operating system?

I make so many errors it would be nice not to go back to square one each time. I would like to have both the operating system and my files on a backuo SDcard.

John, W0GN

Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net


Dave R
 

You can expand the extra capacity in raspi-config on first boot on new medium. In terminal, sudo raspi-config. 73


On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 14:24 Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@...> wrote:
It will copy everything including the card's formatting information. Howerer, if you back up to a larger card, it will end up the same usable size as the original card. You have to use gparted or something similar to expand the new file system.


> On 09/07/2021 14:19 John <radio@...> wrote:
>
>
> If I use an image maker like Balena Etcher to make an image from my Pi SDcard, will it copy everything on the card or only the operating system?
>
> I make so many errors it would be nice not to go back to square one each time. I would like to have both the operating system and my files on a backuo SDcard.
>
> John, W0GN
>
>

Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www http://www.ngunn.net






John
 

Balena Etcher didn't work for me -- I think I know what I did wrong, but I need somebody to tell me if I understand my error correctly.

The Raspberry Pi SD Card Copier instructions I found direct that a BLANK CDcard be inserted in one of the USB connectors.  The card I used was one I had already screwed up using my Pi.

I've now spent considerable time trying to format a used SDcard into a single 32gb FAT-32 partition with no success.  Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?

John,  W0GN


Dave R
 

gparted. 73


On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 06:08 John <radio@...> wrote:
Balena Etcher didn't work for me -- I think I know what I did wrong, but I need somebody to tell me if I understand my error correctly.

The Raspberry Pi SD Card Copier instructions I found direct that a BLANK CDcard be inserted in one of the USB connectors.  The card I used was one I had already screwed up using my Pi.

I've now spent considerable time trying to format a used SDcard into a single 32gb FAT-32 partition with no success.  Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?

John,  W0GN


Dave R
 


On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 06:08 John <radio@...> wrote:
Balena Etcher didn't work for me -- I think I know what I did wrong, but I need somebody to tell me if I understand my error correctly.

The Raspberry Pi SD Card Copier instructions I found direct that a BLANK CDcard be inserted in one of the USB connectors.  The card I used was one I had already screwed up using my Pi.

I've now spent considerable time trying to format a used SDcard into a single 32gb FAT-32 partition with no success.  Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?

John,  W0GN


Dave R
 

Disregard this link. It applies to a specific task and seems too complicated. Just add gparted from add remove software. 73


On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 06:11 Dave R via groups.io <daverickmers=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 06:08 John <radio@...> wrote:
Balena Etcher didn't work for me -- I think I know what I did wrong, but I need somebody to tell me if I understand my error correctly.

The Raspberry Pi SD Card Copier instructions I found direct that a BLANK CDcard be inserted in one of the USB connectors.  The card I used was one I had already screwed up using my Pi.

I've now spent considerable time trying to format a used SDcard into a single 32gb FAT-32 partition with no success.  Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?

John,  W0GN


Larry Dighera
 

On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 06:06:21 -0700, "John" <radio@netins.net> wrote:

Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?

I use this:

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/

SD Memory Card Formatter 5.0.1 for SD/SDHC/SDXC

The SD Memory Card Formatter formats SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card and
SDXC Memory Card (respectively SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards) complying with the SD
File System Specification created by the SD Association (SDA).

It is strongly recommended to use the SD Memory Card Formatter to format
SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards rather than using formatting tools provided with
individual operating systems. In general, formatting tools provided with
operating systems can format various storage media including SD/SDHC/SDXC
Cards, but it may not be optimized for SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards and it may result
in lower performance.

SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards have a “Protected Area” for SD Card security purposes.
The SD Memory Card Formatter does not format the protected area in the
SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards. The protected area shall be formatted by an appropriate
PC application or SD host devices that provide SD security function.

The SD Memory Card Formatter doesn’t support SD/SDHC/SDXC Card encrypted by
the “BitLocker To Go” functionality of Windows. Please format the
SD/SDHC/SDXC Card after it has been unlocked.


John
 

Thanks for the info guys.  I was able to reformat the SDcard using an old laptop with the new Linux on it.

gparted worked, but was a bit scary to use.  I used the instructions here:
      https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-format-usb-sd-card-linux/

Used Format with FAT32 instructions.  The first two command lines worked fine.

I couldn't get the boot partition to format or output instruction to work but the print of the partition table did work.  However the listing under the File System column was blank instead of fat32.  Attached is the File System listing of the now blank card.

Anyhow, I tried that SDcard in the Pi and was able to copy my working card on to it with the Pi.

Best regards,

John,  W0GN


On 2021-07-10 8:09 am, Dave R wrote:

gparted. 73

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 06:08 John <radio@...> wrote:
Balena Etcher didn't work for me -- I think I know what I did wrong, but I need somebody to tell me if I understand my error correctly.

The Raspberry Pi SD Card Copier instructions I found direct that a BLANK CDcard be inserted in one of the USB connectors.  The card I used was one I had already screwed up using my Pi.

I've now spent considerable time trying to format a used SDcard into a single 32gb FAT-32 partition with no success.  Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?

John,  W0GN


Dave R
 

You need Microsoft or Apple to use this. How much performance difference are we talking about? 73



On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 07:25 Larry Dighera <LDighera@...> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 06:06:21 -0700, "John" <radio@...> wrote:

> Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?


I use this:

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/

SD Memory Card Formatter 5.0.1 for SD/SDHC/SDXC

The SD Memory Card Formatter formats SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card and
SDXC Memory Card (respectively SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards) complying with the SD
File System Specification created by the SD Association (SDA).

It is strongly recommended to use the SD Memory Card Formatter to format
SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards rather than using formatting tools provided with
individual operating systems. In general, formatting tools provided with
operating systems can format various storage media including SD/SDHC/SDXC
Cards, but it may not be optimized for SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards and it may result
in lower performance.

SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards have a “Protected Area” for SD Card security purposes.
The SD Memory Card Formatter does not format the protected area in the
SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards. The protected area shall be formatted by an appropriate
PC application or SD host devices that provide SD security function.

The SD Memory Card Formatter doesn’t support SD/SDHC/SDXC Card encrypted by
the “BitLocker To Go” functionality of Windows. Please format the
SD/SDHC/SDXC Card after it has been unlocked.






 

If you are copying an image to a SD Card, you don't need to format it.  The image overwrites all sectors.

There is also a backup menu item on PiOS which will copy the image from your SD Card to an attached SD Card.


On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 8:41 AM Dave R <daverickmers@...> wrote:
You need Microsoft or Apple to use this. How much performance difference are we talking about? 73



On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 07:25 Larry Dighera <LDighera@...> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 06:06:21 -0700, "John" <radio@...> wrote:

> Anyone know of a simple way to make a used SDcard look new to Pi?


I use this:

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/

SD Memory Card Formatter 5.0.1 for SD/SDHC/SDXC

The SD Memory Card Formatter formats SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card and
SDXC Memory Card (respectively SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards) complying with the SD
File System Specification created by the SD Association (SDA).

It is strongly recommended to use the SD Memory Card Formatter to format
SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards rather than using formatting tools provided with
individual operating systems. In general, formatting tools provided with
operating systems can format various storage media including SD/SDHC/SDXC
Cards, but it may not be optimized for SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards and it may result
in lower performance.

SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards have a “Protected Area” for SD Card security purposes.
The SD Memory Card Formatter does not format the protected area in the
SD/SDHC/SDXC Cards. The protected area shall be formatted by an appropriate
PC application or SD host devices that provide SD security function.

The SD Memory Card Formatter doesn’t support SD/SDHC/SDXC Card encrypted by
the “BitLocker To Go” functionality of Windows. Please format the
SD/SDHC/SDXC Card after it has been unlocked.







--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE / WRJT-215

 


Bill AA6BD
 

I use HDD Raw Copy Tool ( https://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/ ) to make an exact copy of the SD Card.  It compresses the image on my Windows computer so it only takes space for the used part of the SD card.  I can then restore from the image to an SD card.  Note that the SD card that you restore to must be at least as large as the original SD card that you copied to an image file.
--
Bill AA6BD


Mark VE3JMR
 

I have a Pi running as a dedicated hotspot using Hamvoip. I don't backup the microSD card, only the config files. I've had a few issues that I've created and easily restored from the last config files backup. If a card crashes permanently, I'll reimage a new card from fresh and then copy and restore my config files.