WVCARC Etsy store


vince kd7tww
 

https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


Mat Murdock
 

TNC-Pi9k6 - Raspberry Pi Hat
This TNC fits on top of a raspberry PI.  It comes with two different Teensy's. (brains).  If you are just using packet go with the 3.2.  If you want to try Ardop (experimental) go with the 3.6.

TNC-Pi9k6 - Stand Alone
This TNC connects to your computer with a USB cable.  Works out of the box with Winlink if running Windows 10.  Can also be used with AGWPE to which you can learn more about here: https://www.sv2agw.com/downloads/
It also has the same 3.2 and 3.6 options.  If you are just doing packet, go with 3.2.   There is also an experimental firmware currently only for the 3.6 that turns your TNC into a Signalink type device.  I have been having some issues compiling it for the 3.2 so if anyone has some insights into that, that would be great.

Mat


Mark Griffith
 

Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


vince kd7tww
 

Mat

I went with "Stand Alone 3.6. I hope I made the right decision. i'll use it with  a laptop. I'll be in-touch with the group pretty much all the time. I am fresh out of the box type of guy. But i'll "try" to fig it out for myself, lol.  Yes I would love to use Winlink and Win mail? Over packet?? <-Question  Again I'm green as a apple. But I hope I have the groups support HIHI

On 09/06/21 2:50 PM, Mat Murdock via groups.io wrote:
TNC-Pi9k6 - Raspberry Pi Hat
This TNC fits on top of a raspberry PI.  It comes with two different Teensy's. (brains).  If you are just using packet go with the 3.2.  If you want to try Ardop (experimental) go with the 3.6.

TNC-Pi9k6 - Stand Alone
This TNC connects to your computer with a USB cable.  Works out of the box with Winlink if running Windows 10.  Can also be used with AGWPE to which you can learn more about here: https://www.sv2agw.com/downloads/
It also has the same 3.2 and 3.6 options.  If you are just doing packet, go with 3.2.   There is also an experimental firmware currently only for the 3.6 that turns your TNC into a Signalink type device.  I have been having some issues compiling it for the 3.2 so if anyone has some insights into that, that would be great.

Mat
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


vince kd7tww
 

Mark

Bought it. Boise Idaho . 3.6 chip stand alone. I'm sure I'll be intouch for support. HIHI.  TY

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


vince kd7tww
 

Mark

My main focus would be Winlink2000 and APRS. IF that helps? TY 73

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


vince kd7tww
 

Mark

Nice explanation here. I understand just need to digest it.

So power for the TNC comes though Micro usb on the Teensy? Can the ground be the same potential as my radios ground? Or should I supply a Separate 5v power supply? Hehe

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


Mat Murdock
 

The version for the Raspberry pi gets its power from the Pi.  The stand alone version gets its power from the usb cable.

Mat


Mark Griffith
 

Vince,

If you wanted to use APRS and Winlink on a RaspPi perhaps you should re-order your TNC to the one that plugs into the RaspPi GPIO header.  I'm not sure about APRS or PAT, but the PiGate software just assumes you have a TNC board plugged in.  You can change things, but that means you'll have to make changes in the software.  I can't speak for PAT or APRS, it might be easier.  That is if your focus is Winlink and APRS.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 06:01:47 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


Mark

My main focus would be Winlink2000 and APRS. IF that helps? TY 73

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


John G8BPQ
 

I have the Sound Card Emulator ("Signalink Type") device running on a 3.2. What compile errors are you getting?

73,
John G8BPQ

On 06/09/2021 21:50, Mat Murdock wrote:
TNC-Pi9k6 - Raspberry Pi Hat
This TNC fits on top of a raspberry PI.  It comes with two different Teensy's. (brains).  If you are just using packet go with the 3.2.  If you want to try Ardop (experimental) go with the 3.6.

TNC-Pi9k6 - Stand Alone
This TNC connects to your computer with a USB cable.  Works out of the box with Winlink if running Windows 10.  Can also be used with AGWPE to which you can learn more about here: https://www.sv2agw.com/downloads/
It also has the same 3.2 and 3.6 options.  If you are just doing packet, go with 3.2.   There is also an experimental firmware currently only for the 3.6 that turns your TNC into a Signalink type device.  I have been having some issues compiling it for the 3.2 so if anyone has some insights into that, that would be great.

Mat


vince kd7tww
 

Mark

Okay. I have changed my order to a NON stand alone device v3.6. HIHI. I have a ordered a Canakit Rasb 4B 8gb pi kit. Now I need a few 32gb sd cards. I'l be in-touch and keep you all abreast on my progress if you don't mind? TY 73

On 09/06/21 6:59 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

If you wanted to use APRS and Winlink on a RaspPi perhaps you should re-order your TNC to the one that plugs into the RaspPi GPIO header.  I'm not sure about APRS or PAT, but the PiGate software just assumes you have a TNC board plugged in.  You can change things, but that means you'll have to make changes in the software.  I can't speak for PAT or APRS, it might be easier.  That is if your focus is Winlink and APRS.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 06:01:47 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


Mark

My main focus would be Winlink2000 and APRS. IF that helps? TY 73

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


Ken Curtis
 

Keep in mind, Vince, that the 8GB version can only use 4GB with the current Raspberry Pi OS, since it is 32 bit. The 64 bit version would use all 8GB, but it is still in BETA!

Ken KC3ROF

On 9/7/2021 1:24 PM, Vince A wrote:

Mark

Okay. I have changed my order to a NON stand alone device v3.6. HIHI. I have a ordered a Canakit Rasb 4B 8gb pi kit. Now I need a few 32gb sd cards. I'l be in-touch and keep you all abreast on my progress if you don't mind? TY 73

On 09/06/21 6:59 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

If you wanted to use APRS and Winlink on a RaspPi perhaps you should re-order your TNC to the one that plugs into the RaspPi GPIO header.  I'm not sure about APRS or PAT, but the PiGate software just assumes you have a TNC board plugged in.  You can change things, but that means you'll have to make changes in the software.  I can't speak for PAT or APRS, it might be easier.  That is if your focus is Winlink and APRS.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 06:01:47 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


Mark

My main focus would be Winlink2000 and APRS. IF that helps? TY 73

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


vince kd7tww
 

Ken

Thank you. The difference in price with 4gb and 8gb was about $10. And I might want to play with a Rasb pi Windoz 7 or 10. I seen it don countless times on YT. TY for the BETA info.

73 de kd7tww

On 09/07/21 7:13 PM, Ken Curtis via groups.io wrote:

Keep in mind, Vince, that the 8GB version can only use 4GB with the current Raspberry Pi OS, since it is 32 bit. The 64 bit version would use all 8GB, but it is still in BETA!

Ken KC3ROF

On 9/7/2021 1:24 PM, Vince A wrote:

Mark

Okay. I have changed my order to a NON stand alone device v3.6. HIHI. I have a ordered a Canakit Rasb 4B 8gb pi kit. Now I need a few 32gb sd cards. I'l be in-touch and keep you all abreast on my progress if you don't mind? TY 73

On 09/06/21 6:59 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

If you wanted to use APRS and Winlink on a RaspPi perhaps you should re-order your TNC to the one that plugs into the RaspPi GPIO header.  I'm not sure about APRS or PAT, but the PiGate software just assumes you have a TNC board plugged in.  You can change things, but that means you'll have to make changes in the software.  I can't speak for PAT or APRS, it might be easier.  That is if your focus is Winlink and APRS.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 06:01:47 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


Mark

My main focus would be Winlink2000 and APRS. IF that helps? TY 73

On 09/06/21 2:56 PM, Mark Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Vince,

You'll want to get a board with the Teensy 3.6 chip.  To be able to do packet, the 3.2 version will work, but if ARDOP or any other modes ever become available for the Teensy, the 3.6 version with more memory and slightly faster processor will be necessary.

The boards will come already configured to run 1200 baud packet, so you can use APRS or PAT or the PiGate software without any modifications.  These are all Raspberry Pi software suites.  APRS is for, well APRS, and PAT and PiGate are for sending email through the Winlink2000 network.

The PiGate software comes as a complete OS image.  The others can be installed on your RaspPi.

Also, depending upon what operating system you install on the RaspPi, you will be able to run commands to connect to a local packet BBS and do the BBS thing.  I would recommend installing the latest Raspbian OS which is designed specifically for the RaspPi.

If you want to use the RaspPi for FLDIGI or WSJTX you won't need to TNC.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Monday, September 6, 2021, 03:36:38 PM CDT, Vince A <vince@...> wrote:


https://www.etsy.com/shop/WVCARC

Group

Got me interested and curios 

Can someone explain what the different models shown on Etsy. I am going to buy one but as newbie and starting out which one is best for a starter?  I have a Ras pi 3b+

Also what software to use/install, would be good for a starter and newbie like me?

-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)
-- 
73, de Vince KD7TWW
In what year did the FCC mandate the 1500 Watt PEP limit for amateur radio station
power output? - Motorola Corp was formally named
"Galvin Manufacturing Corporation" (1928–1947)


Mat Murdock
 

I have done the following per the instructions provided in Teensy Projects:

Copy boards.txt and platform.txt to hardware\teensy\avr in your Arduino IDE installation folder.
Set Sketchbook location (File/Preferences Menu) to the location of TeensyProjects

I then jumped over to TeensyProjects\libraries\SoundCard\README.txt

usb_desc.h must be copied to hardware\teensy\avr\cores\teensy3 in your Arduino installation.

This part is what is throwing me off as I don't have Serial + Audio as on options.

See below. 

Any thoughts?

Mat


KN6FOA
 

I still haven't been able to get it to build but I think it is "Audio + RawHID + Serial"


Mat Murdock
 

John, attached is the errors I am getting.

Below is how I have Arduino configured.

Mat


John G8BPQ
 

I use Arduno 1.8.9 and Teensyduino 1.47. Can you try with those?

73,
John

On 07/10/2021 02:40, Mat Murdock wrote:
John, attached is the errors I am getting.

Below is how I have Arduino configured.

Mat


Mat Murdock
 

That did the trick.  The only change in the documentation is what USB type to select, as Serial + Audio does not exist.  Attached are compiled binary's if any wants it. This turns your TNC-Pi96 into a basic sound card and works with VARA and SoundModem if you want to go that route.  Makes the device even more flexible.  You will need to connect the TNC to your computer via the micro usb port.  I have only tried it on Windows.

Mat