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W6TUX Dave
 

John, I realize I'm coming into this late, but absolutely have never had a problem with FTDI USB cables - Prolific was always hit or miss.  For many years now have purchased FTDI cables from Mark KJ6ZWL (BlueMax49ers on eBay), have enjoyed excellent response time and not a single failure yet.  https://www.ebay.com/usr/bluemax49ers?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

Replaced our old IC-718 with a 7300 a couple years ago, but here is the FTDI USB CAT cable for the 718:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FTDI-USB-CI-V-CAT-Programming-Cable-CAT-CI-V-IC-718-IC-725-IC-726-IC-728-CT-17/151268063957?hash=item2338477ad5:g:mskAAOSwG~ZaEIoB

73, dave/W6TUX

Bill - N6EF
 

I bought the Valley Enterprises cable for my 857 from Amazon and it works great. It's a bit more expensive than similar cables, but it had good reviews so I took a chance on it. I can use it for rig control with a Pi3B+ and Pi4B using flrig, fldigi, wsjt-x, and js8call. No problems. It keys the radio just fine with CAT control from the applications. I can also use it with CQRLog logging program and the program reads the frequency and mode. The program won't key the radio. I just had to set the interface to be /dev/ttyUSB0 and all the applications supported it.

I hope that helps.

73,
Bill - N6EF

 

Sorry for the typos, I was responding on my phone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaesu_(brand)  


On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 8:57 AM John D. Hays <john@...> wrote:
Vertex was the commercial radio side of Yaesu. Motorola bought Yaesu, for that that customer base, but wasn't interested in Amateur so sold that side of the business back to. The family that had previously owned it and that is Yaesu today. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020, 08:52 Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

Hi

I am not sure how they are connected but I think Vertex Standard is Yaesu USA or some such

but it should be an official cable.


Marty kd8bj


On 5/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Norris wrote:
Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 

Marty Hartwell
 

Hi John

Good bit of history there, I have been using Yaesu products for a long time and currently

use an FT2800, Vx5r and a FT8717 original from about 2004. It has only been back to

Yaesu to get the power connector replaced. I also have an old Kenwood  430 I am looking

at to see if it works.

I knew I had seen the Vertex Standard on some of the parts for the Vx5r, so figured it

was part of Yaesu somehow.

Marty kd8bj



On 5/30/20 10:57 AM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
Vertex was the commercial radio side of Yaesu. Motorola bought Yaesu, for that that customer base, but wasn't interested in Amateur so sold that side of the business back to. The family that had previously owned it and that is Yaesu today. 

On Sat, May 30, 2020, 08:52 Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

Hi

I am not sure how they are connected but I think Vertex Standard is Yaesu USA or some such

but it should be an official cable.


Marty kd8bj


On 5/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Norris wrote:
Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG

 

Vertex was the commercial radio side of Yaesu. Motorola bought Yaesu, for that that customer base, but wasn't interested in Amateur so sold that side of the business back to. The family that had previously owned it and that is Yaesu today. 


On Sat, May 30, 2020, 08:52 Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

Hi

I am not sure how they are connected but I think Vertex Standard is Yaesu USA or some such

but it should be an official cable.


Marty kd8bj


On 5/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Norris wrote:
Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG

Marty Hartwell
 

Hi

I am not sure how they are connected but I think Vertex Standard is Yaesu USA or some such

but it should be an official cable.


Marty kd8bj


On 5/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Norris wrote:
Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG

N5XMT
 

I used a tiny strip of electrical tape and tweezers to lay it on the positive terminal of the ISB connector


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:55 PM Daniel Norris <norris.daniel@...> wrote:
Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG

Chuck M
 

It is a very thin print.  Has to be to fit and not cause other problems in fitting inside of the USB connectors.
Can email you the gcode I used.  Using Cura 4.4 with an Ender 3 printer.  Be sure to use hairspray or something similar to make sure print sticks to the bed.

Just installed a dual gear extruder, Winsinn, model from Amazon.  Under $20.  Works well.  Very good control of filaments. Did find that regular and flexible filaments need different esteps setting on my machine.  Simple entering of "M92 E123.45", where the 123.45 is the new setting, followed by M500 to save, when switching filament types.

If unsure how to check this, will send video link.

73
Chuck
KD9DVB


On Friday, May 29, 2020, 3:55:14 PM EDT, Daniel Norris <norris.daniel@...> wrote:


Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG

Daniel Norris
 

Hi Glen, 

You know, I thought it was an "official" cable from Yaesu, but it's a Vertex Standard brand CT-62 adapter.  its logo just looks a little like a YS.    I put in an order last week for an XGGCOMMS cat & isolated audio adapter, so I'll be able to report back if that works well for me.  

My problem with the pi powering up wasn't what I thought it was. I cut the positive wire in a usb extension cable, verified it was disconnected, and plugged in the adapter and the pi powered right up.  Turns out I accidentally wired the power switch for the 12v-5v adapter that powers the pi into the ground wire, so when the usb adapter was plugged in, it connected the ground from the 5v side of the power adapter and it started pumping out 5v to the pi.  Easy fix!   Still might need the 5v disconnect for the usb, though.  tbd...

@Chuck - that model was difficult to slice -> gcode.  I got it to print, but it was too thin.  I'll have to make another model later & have another try to make an insert.  

--Dan 
KK6WCG

Bern Ghis
 

Le mer. 27 mai 2020 à 10:49, Glen - G0SBN via groups.io <g0sbn=talktalk.net@groups.io> a écrit :
Hello Daniel

I don't have the 857d but do use an 891 and 817nd with my pi and not seeing an issue. The 891 has a usb built in, and I use a Yaesu SCU-17 forbthe 817nd. Just wondered what the official cat to serial adapter was that you mentioned?

Glen G0SBN

Glen - G0SBN
 

Hello Daniel

I don't have the 857d but do use an 891 and 817nd with my pi and not seeing an issue. The 891 has a usb built in, and I use a Yaesu SCU-17 forbthe 817nd. Just wondered what the official cat to serial adapter was that you mentioned?

Glen G0SBN

Chuck M
 

No probs.  Happy to help.
If anyone else needs something like this, email me privately and I can send you a couple.

There's another version in same thingiverse file that blocks data and only allows power to go through.

This link shows how to link one of the new smart outlets to being controlled by your RPi.  He's using Octopi, which for non 3D folks, is a server program for running 3D printers.  He's using it to power off the printer when not in use to reduce fire hazard.  


I don't have the programming skills to write code for something like this that could be used to shut off power to your ham shack's equipment.  Be a nice bit of code to have.  Any volunteers to give it a try?

73s
Chuck
KD9DVB


On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 03:47:37 AM EDT, Daniel Norris <norris.daniel@...> wrote:


Thanks, Chuck.  That's a remarkably simple solution.  I'll give it a try!  Yep, I do have a 3d printer.  

Daniel Norris
 

Thanks, Chuck.  That's a remarkably simple solution.  I'll give it a try!  Yep, I do have a 3d printer.  

Chuck M
 

Not sure about your specific item.  

Needed to block 5V power from RPi to Arduino control board of 3D printer.  Printed thin piece that inserts into USB-A male end.  Works okay.

Do you have a friend or local library that has a 3D printer?  Takes less than 10 minutes to print.  Very thin, easy to lose.


YMMV and all that.

73s
Chuck
KD9DVB



On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:23 PM, Daniel Norris
<norris.daniel@...> wrote:
Can anyone check if one of these valley-ent cat cables will supply 5v to the pi over the usb connector? 

I have an official cat -> serial adapter for my ft-857d and ran into an issue trying to set it up with a pi that it will power on the pi over the usb to serial adapter connection, even if I disconnect the usb power cable from the pi...  I'm sure this is bad - going to burn up some voltage regulator in the adapter and making it hard for me to switch off the pi when I need to power cycle it.  

Daniel Norris
 

Can anyone check if one of these valley-ent cat cables will supply 5v to the pi over the usb connector? 

I have an official cat -> serial adapter for my ft-857d and ran into an issue trying to set it up with a pi that it will power on the pi over the usb to serial adapter connection, even if I disconnect the usb power cable from the pi...  I'm sure this is bad - going to burn up some voltage regulator in the adapter and making it hard for me to switch off the pi when I need to power cycle it.  

 

They sell on Amazon and Ebay or go direct to https://www.valley-ent.com/store/

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:35 AM Stephan Greene <ks1g04@...> wrote:
The valley enterprises cables are solid products. I have them for icom, Kenwood, and yaesu radios. Not used ( yet) with an RPi, but never a hiccup with them and satpc32, fldigi, dxcommander, wsjt.  

73 Steve KS1G



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 

Stephan Greene
 

The valley enterprises cables are solid products. I have them for icom, Kenwood, and yaesu radios. Not used ( yet) with an RPi, but never a hiccup with them and satpc32, fldigi, dxcommander, wsjt.  

73 Steve KS1G

DON CAMACHO <don32534@...>
 




On Apr 20, 2020, at 1:34 PM, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:


I use these USB cables on Raspberry Pi to do CAT control on Yaesu and on Icom
 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:12 AM Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via groups.io <ewbloom=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
In working on using the Build A Pi script from Jason, KM4ACK, I have come across the need for assistance.

I need some guidance on identifying available cables to allow FLRIG to control the RIG via CAT as built in the
script / setup.

I own an older FT-450 (currently my main Base HF Rig using a SignaLink), an FT-897 (my target HF Rig for
mobile / portable ops) and an ICOM 718 (currently planned to be my back shack rig with a SignaLink and also
connected to my 80m dipole).

The reason I am looking for cable for all three rigs is that I will eventually want to move away from the big PC
I am using in my shack and move the PI and totally 12v operation.

Thank you in advance for your help in locating cable options for CAT control on the PI for these rigs.

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
ewbloom@...
Sent from Webmail access



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 

Craig Davidson
 

If you ever want to control your Icom radio via the ci-v port using a
Raspberry Pi running your own linux scripts, I have figured out how to
turn on the Pi serial port (header pins 8 and 10) and send ascii/hex
data to the radio. The ci-v bus is the same as the old com port
(RS232) except the voltage levels are 5 volts and ground. I would be
happy to share my scripts and what I have learned about the interface.
One of the GPIO pins could be used for PTT on the radio.

Here are some notes about turning on the serial port on the Raspberry Pi.

http://experimental.irlp.net/IRLP_Projects/INSTRUCTIONS%20for%20Pi%20serial%20port%20setup.txt

Here is a diagram of my interface to a chinese transceiver board.
Similar wiring could interface to an Icom radio.

http://experimental.irlp.net/IRLP_Projects/SCHEMATIC_Pi_to_China_Transceiver_Board.png

On 4/21/20, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ wrote:
I look forward to learning what you learn on making the link from the Pi
to the 718.

On 4/20/2020 10:15 PM, Bill Lamm wrote:
I have a Icom 718 and a ci-v cable.. I am setting up raspi4 following
KM4ACK's wonderful work..
Tge CI-V cable works but doesn't control PTT.. I am using Gordon
Gibby's digital interface kit to isolate raspi4 and radio. That will
require a sound card dongle and ?USB? connection to the ACC jack on
the rear.

Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ
 

I look forward to learning what you learn on making the link from the Pi to the 718.

On 4/20/2020 10:15 PM, Bill Lamm wrote:
I have a Icom 718 and a ci-v cable.. I am setting up raspi4 following KM4ACK's wonderful work.. 
Tge CI-V cable works but doesn't control PTT.. I am using Gordon Gibby's digital interface kit to isolate raspi4 and radio.  That will require a sound card dongle and ?USB? connection to the ACC jack on the rear.