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Re: HamPi 1.0 Released!

duffingle@...
 

Dave on June 13 you released a version called "W3DJS Raspberry PI Ham Radio Image v2.0"  is that a different program from this version "HamPI 1.0 " released today?


Re: HamPi lockup

Allen
 

Dave,
   You stated 24km but what was the output of the signal to the antenna? They are having problems with 5G as the distance is not working out as designed. It does 60 feet at best from the last tests I have seen. 
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Allen Higgins
Brunswick, Ohio
KE8KZO


Re: HamPi Problem: SDRPlay not working with GQRX

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 04:15 PM, John Wiseman wrote:
Even better would be to issue a script that installs the ham software onto a standard Raspbian image. People could then download a few kilobytes instead of many gigabytes.

And if the script included a way to update the programs they wouldn't get out of date almost as soon as they are installed.
I spent six months creating an automated installer using Ansible. It automatically installs all the software. It takes about six hours to run for me.
 
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- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: HamPi Problem: SDRPlay not working with GQRX

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 03:05 PM, Lawrence Macionski wrote:
Perhaps issue a patch to write to an SD card that was created with V1.0 that would make V1.0 into V1.1.
That would be a good approach for a smaller piece of software, but I'm afraid it is not feasible for something this large and complex. I believe that your best ally is persistence.
 
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- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 06:15 PM, Danny K5CG wrote:
My message was meant to be feedback to Dave S. so he could add it to the build for future users.
 
Well, perhaps that should be a FAQ. PatMenu requires setup and with that setup needs a person's individual grid square. That is impossible to set for each individual user on a shared image.
 
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- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 01:48 PM, Danny K5CG wrote:
The package named yad is missing from the build. The patmenu script depends on it. Installed manually, voila!
Did you run the PatMenu setup script? I believe that installs yad.
 
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- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

Danny K5CG <k5cg@...>
 

the apt command is the way to resolve it locally.

the way to discover...

From the start menu select Hamradio -> patmenu - nothing happens.
Right click on the patmenu item and select properties.
find the executable in the specified path on the Desktop Entry tab.
open a terminal
cd /home/pi/patmenu2/
run patmenu in the terminal
./patmenu [Enter]
the script complains that it can't find yad.

My message was meant to be feedback to Dave S. so he could add it to the build for future users.


From: "N5XMT" <dacooley@...>
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:29:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent
sudo apt install yad

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:26 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
When these things are found, please include the steps used to discover and correct the problem.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg=hamoperator.org@groups.io> wrote:
The package named yad is missing from the build. The patmenu script depends on it. Installed manually, voila!



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 



Re: HamPi Problem: SDRPlay not working with GQRX

David Ranch
 


While I generically agree with you John, the reality is far from that:

   - Doing updates could result in a LOT of disk I/O which would kill off SD cards rather quickly

   - Most users don't have the interest or patience to do bare builds like this.  A good analogy here is say how Gentoo does this for being a Linux distribution


With that said, W3DJS did publish his Ansible playbooks.  If people moved over to a SSD or HDD for running his image, they technically could do all this.  The challenge here as things change, would they be able to keep the playbooks up to date so things are reliable.  It's possible but it again requires a lot of work which most people won't have any interest in.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 06/20/2020 01:15 PM, John Wiseman wrote:
Even better would be to issue a script that installs the ham software onto a standard Raspbian image. People could then download a few kilobytes instead of many gigabytes.

And if the script included a way to update the programs they wouldn't get out of date almost as soon as they are installed.

73,
John G8BPQ

On 20/06/2020 20:05, Lawrence Macionski via groups.io wrote:
Dave,
Sorry to see they may be a bug or a glitch. My question is, or rather my comment. It took me a while to download HAMpi1.0 image. A little over 5 hours. In rural Kansas. When the torrent 1st started it said ETA was 1 week.

Perhaps issue a patch to write to an SD card that was created with V1.0 that would make V1.0 into V1.1.

But for those that have never downloaded the V1.0... then update the repositories with V1.1  Then after a period of time delete V1.0 and the patch as we roll forward.

Reason I recommend this is procedure is that many end users  are rural, or 3rd world and have less than stellar internet connections.

Thank you for all your efforts - I still have not plunked down $$$ for RPI4.. so I'm happy with you're first attempt on the air and flying on a RPI3+.



Re: HamPi Problem: SDRPlay not working with GQRX

John Wiseman
 

Even better would be to issue a script that installs the ham software onto a standard Raspbian image. People could then download a few kilobytes instead of many gigabytes.

And if the script included a way to update the programs they wouldn't get out of date almost as soon as they are installed.

73,
John G8BPQ

On 20/06/2020 20:05, Lawrence Macionski via groups.io wrote:
Dave,
Sorry to see they may be a bug or a glitch. My question is, or rather my comment. It took me a while to download HAMpi1.0 image. A little over 5 hours. In rural Kansas. When the torrent 1st started it said ETA was 1 week.

Perhaps issue a patch to write to an SD card that was created with V1.0 that would make V1.0 into V1.1.

But for those that have never downloaded the V1.0... then update the repositories with V1.1  Then after a period of time delete V1.0 and the patch as we roll forward.

Reason I recommend this is procedure is that many end users  are rural, or 3rd world and have less than stellar internet connections.

Thank you for all your efforts - I still have not plunked down $$$ for RPI4.. so I'm happy with you're first attempt on the air and flying on a RPI3+.


Re: HamPi lockup

David Ranch
 


Allen,

Why would you recommend users to use a different antenna when the Raspberry Pi doesn't support any form of an external antenna?   Most consumer APs now only offer fixed antennas as well.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 06/20/2020 10:53 AM, Allen wrote:

Dave,
Penetrating walls at 5.GHz is not a problem when you use the proper antenna. Use multi polarized antennas and walls will not be a problem.  We even penetrated multiple concrete walls with rebar. Somewhat pricey but if that is your problem then that is your solution. Our microprocessor and radios at 24dbm will go 4 miles. We did 24 frame rate HD with target traveling 80 to 100MPH. The other problem are walls with steel studs. No problem with multi polarzed antennas. 
Allen Higgins
Brunswick, Ohio
KE8KZO


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

N5XMT
 

sudo apt install yad


On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:26 PM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
When these things are found, please include the steps used to discover and correct the problem.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg=hamoperator.org@groups.io> wrote:
The package named yad is missing from the build. The patmenu script depends on it. Installed manually, voila!



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

 

When these things are found, please include the steps used to discover and correct the problem.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg=hamoperator.org@groups.io> wrote:
The package named yad is missing from the build. The patmenu script depends on it. Installed manually, voila!



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


Re: HamPi Problem: SDRPlay not working with GQRX

Larry Macionski
 

Dave,
Sorry to see they may be a bug or a glitch. My question is, or rather my comment. It took me a while to download HAMpi1.0 image. A little over 5 hours. In rural Kansas. When the torrent 1st started it said ETA was 1 week.

Perhaps issue a patch to write to an SD card that was created with V1.0 that would make V1.0 into V1.1.

But for those that have never downloaded the V1.0... then update the repositories with V1.1  Then after a period of time delete V1.0 and the patch as we roll forward.

Reason I recommend this is procedure is that many end users  are rural, or 3rd world and have less than stellar internet connections.

Thank you for all your efforts - I still have not plunked down $$$ for RPI4.. so I'm happy with you're first attempt on the air and flying on a RPI3+.


Re: HamPi lockup

Dave Wade
 

Allen,

 

No but the PI does not have a proper antenna, and consumer grade routers are also built down to a price, and possibly slugged so they can flog you an upgrade to their mesh product.

So whilst in theory 5Ghz should be better in practice it often isn’t. A few times a friend with a new router has said “why has my wireless slowed” and I switch off 5G and it goes faster.

So far as they are concerned, I fixed it, well until the next driver update from Microsoft re-enables the 5G on the LAN card….

.. any way Flight Refuelling did 24km with 802.11b. No HD video but it was 24km…

 

Dave

 

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen
Sent: 20 June 2020 18:54
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] HamPi lockup

 


Dave,
Penetrating walls at 5.GHz is not a problem when you use the proper antenna. Use multi polarized antennas and walls will not be a problem.  We even penetrated multiple concrete walls with rebar. Somewhat pricey but if that is your problem then that is your solution. Our microprocessor and radios at 24dbm will go 4 miles. We did 24 frame rate HD with target traveling 80 to 100MPH. The other problem are walls with steel studs. No problem with multi polarzed antennas. 
Allen Higgins
Brunswick, Ohio
KE8KZO


Re: HamPi lockup

Allen
 


Dave,
Penetrating walls at 5.GHz is not a problem when you use the proper antenna. Use multi polarized antennas and walls will not be a problem.  We even penetrated multiple concrete walls with rebar. Somewhat pricey but if that is your problem then that is your solution. Our microprocessor and radios at 24dbm will go 4 miles. We did 24 frame rate HD with target traveling 80 to 100MPH. The other problem are walls with steel studs. No problem with multi polarzed antennas. 
Allen Higgins
Brunswick, Ohio
KE8KZO


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

Danny K5CG <k5cg@...>
 

The package named yad is missing from the build. The patmenu script depends on it. Installed manually, voila!


Re: HamPi 1.0 Released!

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:28 AM, chuck gelm wrote:
Using: 'HamPi Image v1.0.torrent'

My torrent client is reporting
350.1 kB of 18.36 GB (0.0%)

What is wrong? Why 18 GB!

Chuck

Chuck,

A couple of thoughts. First, what BitTorrent client are you running? Can you try using the main BitTorrent client?

Secondly, if you can't get BitTorrent to work, please try one of the direct download links:

Since your callsign prefix is "N", try using this link: https://bit.ly/HamPi_1_0-N5XMT

 
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- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:17 PM, <jrreid_24@...> wrote:
Dave,
Don't know the first thing about Rpi and programming, but you have opened up a world of low power field ops using Rpi for all of us noobs. Thank you for your previous offering and I'm looking forward to working with this, likely superior, iteration! 

Blessings and 73
de KM4VHB
Jason
That's one of the reasons I did it. Thank you for the kind words and have fun!

73,
 
--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: HamPi 1.0 Released!

Kevin Zembower <kzembower@...>
 

What might be causing a problem for some folks (it did for me at first) is that the URL contains two embedded spaces ('HamPi Image v1.0.torrent'). Replacing the spaces with '+' (without the quotes, just a plus sign) worked for me.

-Kevin
KC3KZ


Re: HamPi 1.0 Release Imminent

jrreid_24@...
 

Dave,
Don't know the first thing about Rpi and programming, but you have opened up a world of low power field ops using Rpi for all of us noobs. Thank you for your previous offering and I'm looking forward to working with this, likely superior, iteration! 

Blessings and 73
de KM4VHB
Jason