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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Poaps
 

see below






On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:16 AM Mark Griffith via groups.io <mdgriffith2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don,

If you have the latest Raspbian Buster installed, AX.25 is already there and ready to go.  However, you need to edit a couple files to get it setup.  The PiGate software does this for you, but if you want to do it yourself:

Edit /etc/ax25/axports

It should have some lines in there like this:

wl2k VA7DGP 1200 255 7 Winlink
tnc VA7DGP 19200 128 2 TNC-Pi2 VHF

# The format of this file is:
#portname       callsign        speed   paclen  window  description
tnc             KD0QYN-1        19200   128     2       TNC-Pi2 VHF
#uhfdrop        N0ONE-3         9600    128     2       443.425MHz+ 1200baud UHF Drop
#hfdrop         N0ONE-5         9600    32      2       40m HF Drop
#wtrunk         N0ONE-11        38400   253     2       UHF Trunk West
#etrunk         N0ONE-13        38400   253     2       UHF Trunk East
#axudp          N0ONE-8         115200  253     2       Linux (AX25<->UDP)

Notice that I changed one to have a port name of tnc, and added my call sign and a speed of 19200.  This is for the TNC-Pi.

Then edit /etc/default/ax25

There are three settings you need to change:

AXPORT=tnc (or whatever you called it)
HBAUD=19200
DEV=/dev/ttyserial0  (you can also try /dev/ttyAMA0)

I didn't have this file in /dev/default/ac25

I added 

AXPORT=tnc
HBAUD=19200
DEV=/dev/serial0

as seen on my PI

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ ls /dev/serial*
/dev/serial0  /dev/serial1
pi@raspberrypi:~ $


Just for verification 

Don

Save both these files and run the command "sudo service ax25 start"

Then run the command "sudo service ax25 status"

You should see the service status and there should be a line saying it is loaded and active.

You can also run this command to see if kissattach has been successful:

"sudo ps -ef | grep kiss"  and it should return a line of two showing kissattach has been run on the serial port.

Now, pat or APRS will be able to connect to that port,  /dev/serial0, and access the KISS modem.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

NOTE: This is for Raspbian Buster.  Any other version may have the files in a different location, different file names, or different entries in the files.

Mark
KD0QYN



On Friday, June 26, 2020, 11:19:06 AM CDT, Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:


I got the Pi TNC from John Hanson a few years go. It's been sitting on a PI 3. Theres 2 modes I want to do. APRS and Pat Winlink. I know I have to do a Kissattach /dev/serial0 or something like that. I don't really want to load BPQ. I use vnc to log in via km4ack hotspot. 10.10.10.10:5900 for the vnc. I know how to create ssh before I run a fresh install of Buster etc. I then log in via putty on my Windown machine and the run raspi-config and setup the PI for SSH, VNC and SERIAL and the Resultion for getting way from that black screen for desktop display.
I have created the mkdir pitnc in /home/pi directory. I have run the setup. 
It's getting a script for APRS and a Script to run start Pat Winlink.

I'm learning but I'm clueless about how to set this up so when I log in via VNC and have a very small screen while I'm mobile. I can click on a icon and the script starts APRS. If I want Pat Winlink. I click on a Icon and the script fires up and I now can use Pat Winlink. 
As mentioned by Don (forget his USA call) he said the info is outdated. If there was a website created that had the command line where once could create the APRS and Pat Winlink for the PI tnc. 

I'll slip over to the site you mentioned and see If I can get this Pi to work.

73

Don va7dgp

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:51 AM Mark Griffith via groups.io <mdgriffith2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don,

When you connect through PuTTY, is is through an SSH or Secure Shell TCP/IP connection port, not serial.  VNC is also through a direct connection at a non-serial port.

Where did you get the TNC-Pi9k6 from?  I've attached the docs from the old Coastal Chipworks site.  The board and procedure to build it is a little different than the other people selling this board, but the firmware configuration docs are still correct.

I'm getting ready to make a change in my website to reflect that the TNC-Pi9k6 is the choice for both the PiGate and PiGate RMS devices.  Is is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi2.  I'm not too happy with the progress MFJ is making with building the new TNC-Pi3 board, and the West Virginia group that is now selling the TNC-Pi9k6 as an assembled board has a great price, which is probably going to be close to what MFJ sells the 1200 baud only board for.

Here's my web site in case you are interested in using your Pi and the TNC for communications with Winlink2000.

Mark
KD0QYN






Let me know if you have any more questions.

Mark
KD0QYN



On Friday, June 26, 2020, 6:58:46 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


EXCELLENT!! 

 

So after six tries because it is early and I simply can’t type (and I have learned Linux is very unforgiving on typing!) I got the following:

 

Using Serial Port /dev/serial0 

retrying

 

and a presentation of the parameters.  

 

Now at least I know they are talking to each other 😊

 

I am not sure why it worked but it did.  I am going to presume that somehow the putty connection to the pi was using the serial port?  Although how it still connects (as does VNC) confuses me – but no matter.

 

The obvious next question is where do I go from here for reading about how to configure and use this board?

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:10 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

 

Run "sudo raspi-config"

 

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

 

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

 

Save these and finish.

 

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

 

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: DRAWS activation

 

This is the second report I have seen.  I will try to get time to investigate this weekend.

Please include the generation (or order number) of your DRAWS™ board.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:31 AM Rico Abagnale <rico@...> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I just got the HamPi to work on a raspberry pi 3b+. 
Since I do have a DRAWS hat on top of it I would like to activate it. So I followed the instructions. I uncommented the lines in the /boot/config.txt. But after reboot the three devices don't show up. I checked the config.txt and the changes are still visible. But somehow the system doesn't activate the DRAWS hat. 
By the way: I power the Pi with the normal 5V into the micro USB. But I don't think, that this is important, or is it?

73,
Rico
DG5BQ



--
John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

 


DRAWS activation

Rico Abagnale <rico@...>
 

Hi everybody,

I just got the HamPi to work on a raspberry pi 3b+. 
Since I do have a DRAWS hat on top of it I would like to activate it. So I followed the instructions. I uncommented the lines in the /boot/config.txt. But after reboot the three devices don't show up. I checked the config.txt and the changes are still visible. But somehow the system doesn't activate the DRAWS hat. 
By the way: I power the Pi with the normal 5V into the micro USB. But I don't think, that this is important, or is it?

73,
Rico
DG5BQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mark Griffith
 

Don,

If you have the latest Raspbian Buster installed, AX.25 is already there and ready to go.  However, you need to edit a couple files to get it setup.  The PiGate software does this for you, but if you want to do it yourself:

Edit /etc/ax25/axports

It should have some lines in there like this:

# The format of this file is:
#portname       callsign        speed   paclen  window  description
tnc             KD0QYN-1        19200   128     2       TNC-Pi2 VHF
#uhfdrop        N0ONE-3         9600    128     2       443.425MHz+ 1200baud UHF Drop
#hfdrop         N0ONE-5         9600    32      2       40m HF Drop
#wtrunk         N0ONE-11        38400   253     2       UHF Trunk West
#etrunk         N0ONE-13        38400   253     2       UHF Trunk East
#axudp          N0ONE-8         115200  253     2       Linux (AX25<->UDP)

Notice that I changed one to have a port name of tnc, and added my call sign and a speed of 19200.  This is for the TNC-Pi.

Then edit /etc/default/ax25

There are three settings you need to change:

AXPORT=tnc (or whatever you called it)
HBAUD=19200
DEV=/dev/ttyserial0  (you can also try /dev/ttyAMA0)

Save both these files and run the command "sudo service ax25 start"

Then run the command "sudo service ax25 status"

You should see the service status and there should be a line saying it is loaded and active.

You can also run this command to see if kissattach has been successful:

"sudo ps -ef | grep kiss"  and it should return a line of two showing kissattach has been run on the serial port.

Now, pat or APRS will be able to connect to that port,  /dev/serial0, and access the KISS modem.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

NOTE: This is for Raspbian Buster.  Any other version may have the files in a different location, different file names, or different entries in the files.

Mark
KD0QYN



On Friday, June 26, 2020, 11:19:06 AM CDT, Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:


I got the Pi TNC from John Hanson a few years go. It's been sitting on a PI 3. Theres 2 modes I want to do. APRS and Pat Winlink. I know I have to do a Kissattach /dev/serial0 or something like that. I don't really want to load BPQ. I use vnc to log in via km4ack hotspot. 10.10.10.10:5900 for the vnc. I know how to create ssh before I run a fresh install of Buster etc. I then log in via putty on my Windown machine and the run raspi-config and setup the PI for SSH, VNC and SERIAL and the Resultion for getting way from that black screen for desktop display.
I have created the mkdir pitnc in /home/pi directory. I have run the setup. 
It's getting a script for APRS and a Script to run start Pat Winlink.

I'm learning but I'm clueless about how to set this up so when I log in via VNC and have a very small screen while I'm mobile. I can click on a icon and the script starts APRS. If I want Pat Winlink. I click on a Icon and the script fires up and I now can use Pat Winlink. 
As mentioned by Don (forget his USA call) he said the info is outdated. If there was a website created that had the command line where once could create the APRS and Pat Winlink for the PI tnc. 

I'll slip over to the site you mentioned and see If I can get this Pi to work.

73

Don va7dgp

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:51 AM Mark Griffith via groups.io <mdgriffith2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don,

When you connect through PuTTY, is is through an SSH or Secure Shell TCP/IP connection port, not serial.  VNC is also through a direct connection at a non-serial port.

Where did you get the TNC-Pi9k6 from?  I've attached the docs from the old Coastal Chipworks site.  The board and procedure to build it is a little different than the other people selling this board, but the firmware configuration docs are still correct.

I'm getting ready to make a change in my website to reflect that the TNC-Pi9k6 is the choice for both the PiGate and PiGate RMS devices.  Is is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi2.  I'm not too happy with the progress MFJ is making with building the new TNC-Pi3 board, and the West Virginia group that is now selling the TNC-Pi9k6 as an assembled board has a great price, which is probably going to be close to what MFJ sells the 1200 baud only board for.

Here's my web site in case you are interested in using your Pi and the TNC for communications with Winlink2000.

Mark
KD0QYN






Let me know if you have any more questions.

Mark
KD0QYN



On Friday, June 26, 2020, 6:58:46 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


EXCELLENT!! 

 

So after six tries because it is early and I simply can’t type (and I have learned Linux is very unforgiving on typing!) I got the following:

 

Using Serial Port /dev/serial0 

retrying

 

and a presentation of the parameters.  

 

Now at least I know they are talking to each other 😊

 

I am not sure why it worked but it did.  I am going to presume that somehow the putty connection to the pi was using the serial port?  Although how it still connects (as does VNC) confuses me – but no matter.

 

The obvious next question is where do I go from here for reading about how to configure and use this board?

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:10 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

 

Run "sudo raspi-config"

 

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

 

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

 

Save these and finish.

 

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

 

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Poaps
 

I got the Pi TNC from John Hanson a few years go. It's been sitting on a PI 3. Theres 2 modes I want to do. APRS and Pat Winlink. I know I have to do a Kissattach /dev/serial0 or something like that. I don't really want to load BPQ. I use vnc to log in via km4ack hotspot. 10.10.10.10:5900 for the vnc. I know how to create ssh before I run a fresh install of Buster etc. I then log in via putty on my Windown machine and the run raspi-config and setup the PI for SSH, VNC and SERIAL and the Resultion for getting way from that black screen for desktop display.
I have created the mkdir pitnc in /home/pi directory. I have run the setup. 
It's getting a script for APRS and a Script to run start Pat Winlink.

I'm learning but I'm clueless about how to set this up so when I log in via VNC and have a very small screen while I'm mobile. I can click on a icon and the script starts APRS. If I want Pat Winlink. I click on a Icon and the script fires up and I now can use Pat Winlink. 
As mentioned by Don (forget his USA call) he said the info is outdated. If there was a website created that had the command line where once could create the APRS and Pat Winlink for the PI tnc. 

I'll slip over to the site you mentioned and see If I can get this Pi to work.

73

Don va7dgp

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:51 AM Mark Griffith via groups.io <mdgriffith2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don,

When you connect through PuTTY, is is through an SSH or Secure Shell TCP/IP connection port, not serial.  VNC is also through a direct connection at a non-serial port.

Where did you get the TNC-Pi9k6 from?  I've attached the docs from the old Coastal Chipworks site.  The board and procedure to build it is a little different than the other people selling this board, but the firmware configuration docs are still correct.

I'm getting ready to make a change in my website to reflect that the TNC-Pi9k6 is the choice for both the PiGate and PiGate RMS devices.  Is is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi2.  I'm not too happy with the progress MFJ is making with building the new TNC-Pi3 board, and the West Virginia group that is now selling the TNC-Pi9k6 as an assembled board has a great price, which is probably going to be close to what MFJ sells the 1200 baud only board for.

Here's my web site in case you are interested in using your Pi and the TNC for communications with Winlink2000.

Mark
KD0QYN






Let me know if you have any more questions.

Mark
KD0QYN



On Friday, June 26, 2020, 6:58:46 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


EXCELLENT!! 

 

So after six tries because it is early and I simply can’t type (and I have learned Linux is very unforgiving on typing!) I got the following:

 

Using Serial Port /dev/serial0 

retrying

 

and a presentation of the parameters.  

 

Now at least I know they are talking to each other 😊

 

I am not sure why it worked but it did.  I am going to presume that somehow the putty connection to the pi was using the serial port?  Although how it still connects (as does VNC) confuses me – but no matter.

 

The obvious next question is where do I go from here for reading about how to configure and use this board?

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:10 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

 

Run "sudo raspi-config"

 

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

 

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

 

Save these and finish.

 

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

 

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mark Griffith
 

Don,

When you connect through PuTTY, is is through an SSH or Secure Shell TCP/IP connection port, not serial.  VNC is also through a direct connection at a non-serial port.

Where did you get the TNC-Pi9k6 from?  I've attached the docs from the old Coastal Chipworks site.  The board and procedure to build it is a little different than the other people selling this board, but the firmware configuration docs are still correct.

I'm getting ready to make a change in my website to reflect that the TNC-Pi9k6 is the choice for both the PiGate and PiGate RMS devices.  Is is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi2.  I'm not too happy with the progress MFJ is making with building the new TNC-Pi3 board, and the West Virginia group that is now selling the TNC-Pi9k6 as an assembled board has a great price, which is probably going to be close to what MFJ sells the 1200 baud only board for.

Here's my web site in case you are interested in using your Pi and the TNC for communications with Winlink2000.

Mark
KD0QYN






Let me know if you have any more questions.

Mark
KD0QYN



On Friday, June 26, 2020, 6:58:46 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


EXCELLENT!! 

 

So after six tries because it is early and I simply can’t type (and I have learned Linux is very unforgiving on typing!) I got the following:

 

Using Serial Port /dev/serial0 

retrying

 

and a presentation of the parameters.  

 

Now at least I know they are talking to each other 😊

 

I am not sure why it worked but it did.  I am going to presume that somehow the putty connection to the pi was using the serial port?  Although how it still connects (as does VNC) confuses me – but no matter.

 

The obvious next question is where do I go from here for reading about how to configure and use this board?

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:10 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

 

Run "sudo raspi-config"

 

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

 

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

 

Save these and finish.

 

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

 

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Poaps
 

That is far as I got as well, I can see /dev/serial0 0 and /dev/serial1 0.
I need the 6 pin to work. I try the kissattach command. Shown on getpat,io.

73

Don va7dgp



On Fri., Jun. 26, 2020, 4:58 a.m. Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

EXCELLENT!! 

 

So after six tries because it is early and I simply can’t type (and I have learned Linux is very unforgiving on typing!) I got the following:

 

Using Serial Port /dev/serial0 

retrying

 

and a presentation of the parameters.  

 

Now at least I know they are talking to each other 😊

 

I am not sure why it worked but it did.  I am going to presume that somehow the putty connection to the pi was using the serial port?  Although how it still connects (as does VNC) confuses me – but no matter.

 

The obvious next question is where do I go from here for reading about how to configure and use this board?

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:10 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

 

Run "sudo raspi-config"

 

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

 

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

 

Save these and finish.

 

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

 

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Munson
 

EXCELLENT!! 

 

So after six tries because it is early and I simply can’t type (and I have learned Linux is very unforgiving on typing!) I got the following:

 

Using Serial Port /dev/serial0 

retrying

 

and a presentation of the parameters.  

 

Now at least I know they are talking to each other 😊

 

I am not sure why it worked but it did.  I am going to presume that somehow the putty connection to the pi was using the serial port?  Although how it still connects (as does VNC) confuses me – but no matter.

 

The obvious next question is where do I go from here for reading about how to configure and use this board?

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:10 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

 

Run "sudo raspi-config"

 

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

 

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

 

Save these and finish.

 

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

 

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Munson
 

That was my reaction as well, but every reference I can find looking for a “manual” points back to the TNC PI.  It was an impulse buy to see about getting a mobile packet station and the ability to have either 1200 or 9600 was attractive (as was working on a Pi).  But I was NOT prepared for the relative lack of instruction on what to do with it once I had it.

 

As I said I can follow instructions and extrapolate / learn as I go.  But learning from zero is a large row to hoe.

 

At this point I’d love to have a compilation of where/what/how, but my ability to find is running on empty.

 

Don

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of steve.stroh@...
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:08 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don:

 

Just covering the obvious here but the TNC-Pi is a completely different product than the TNC-Pi9k6 and the instructions for the TNC-Pi are not applicable to the -Pi9k6. 

 

Steve N8GNJ

 

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 23:01 Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ

--

Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@...


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mark Griffith
 

Don,

First, you'll also need to use the raspi-config utility to enable the console serial port, but disable console login.

Run "sudo raspi-config"

Then go to menu 5, Interfacing Options, then menu P6, and disable the login shell over the serial port.

On the next screen, keep the serial port enabled.

Save these and finish.

Now try "sudo pitnc-getparams /dev/serial0 0"

This works the same with the TNC-Pi2 or the TNC-Pi9k6 and will be the same with the TNC-Pi3 once MFJ starts selling them.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Friday, June 26, 2020, 1:01:22 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

steve.stroh@...
 

Don:

Just covering the obvious here but the TNC-Pi is a completely different product than the TNC-Pi9k6 and the instructions for the TNC-Pi are not applicable to the -Pi9k6. 

Steve N8GNJ

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 23:01 Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:
First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ

--
Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@...


Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Munson
 

First I am an operator and not a technician.  I can follow directions and to some extent do enough to get myself in trouble.  Having said that I purchased a TNC9k6 and have it running wiht a Raspberry PI 3B+.  Followed directions at (https://tnc-x.com/TNCPi.pdf) downloaded the pitnc files, set them in the directory and set permission to execute by owner.  Verified with ls -l that all permissions and owner/group ids as well as my logge din user are all setup per the text.

when I run the ./pitnc_getparams /dev/serial0 0 - I get the notation that RPi is using Serial 0 then Com Open Failed: permission denied.

I'm at a loss.  Searching here provides a slew of comm errors dated years back that are not trying serial but  ./pitnc_getparams 0 0 - when I try that it defaults to a TTY device (AAM0?) and simply repeats "retrying" which purportedly means a configuration issue.  But what configuration it is straight out of the setup - I've tweaked nothing in the RPI configuration.

Help?

Don, W4GFQ


Re: PAT / Pac-Link Unix / wl2kax25 Questions

Ray Wells
 

On point 1, kernel AX25 has various display options for mheard that can be found here https://www.unix.com/man-page/debian/1/mheard/

I don't know if other variants of AX25 offer the same options because I don't use them.

Ray vk2tv

On 25/6/20 9:44 pm, Ed Bloom, KD9FRQ via groups.io wrote:
I have a couple of PAT / Pac-Link Unix / wl2kax25 questions.

1) What are the commands to note which ( mheard ) statations are digipeaters and then introgate what stations the digipeaters hears?

2) Using results from #1 above, what are the commands / settings to send to a station I cannot hear but a shared Digipeater does?

73s, Ed, KD9FRQ


Re: Package Installation Scripts

nfg
 

Also use notepad++ on windows for editing scripts. You can set it up to use *nix formatting, and it supports colors too. Also WinSCP is great for managing files remotely over a SSH connection also. 


Re: A bit of help needed

N5XMT
 

I believe you are running the old version, not the recently released one, so it's not there

On Jun 25, 2020, at 11:08, Trigger X <triggertech@...> wrote:

Hi Dave,

"No, I do not wish financial compensation for this. However, I do have a PDF on the desktop called "GIVE BACK' which outlines two charities I support. I would appreciate donations to be sent there. And the image is also QSL ware, so if you like it, send me a QSL card! And if you ever find yourself in Atlanta, GA, look me up. We'll go out for a pint together!"


Where is the desktop that you are referring to? I have looked for it a couple of times and I cannot find it.

73,

Tryg

--


Re: Bluetooth...

stephen shearer
 

someone else (?) mentioned wifi/bluetooth on the same freq may be an issue... I'll check as both may have been on.

Power is not a problem. I am using a power/fan hat that is fed with 12V. I am overclocking (2G) and that is working very well. I can run wsjt-x and (at most) using htop - "read" 80-90% CPU, never seeing 100%.

The temp (at most) only went up 1-2 degrees C with the overclock.
Also using 120G SSD as boot device.

I will spec what I am using, if anyone wants part info.

The bluetooth isn't a "big deal" as most of the time I will use it headless. It is nice to be at the radio/computer while trying to make things work.

I need to figure out why my wired LAN is "dead" after moving things in the room a few weeks ago. I see no breaks. I have a tester...

almost ready for FD... The GPS was... working.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 6/25/20 11:45 AM, Brian Webster via groups.io wrote:
Are you running your Pi over Wi-Fi to the network or via Ethernet. Since both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi are in the 2.4 GHz spectrum and the radios are both on the main board, it might be possible that you are having self-interference issues. Turn off the wi-fi and see if you still have issues. I would also be keeping an eye on the power situation. The more things you run such as the Bluetooth radio and such the more current you are drawing. If the power supply you are suing is marginal for the current needed this could be part of any issue.
Brian N2KGC
-----Original Message-----
From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io [mailto:RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io] On Behalf Of stephen shearer
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:10 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Bluetooth...
I am not using a wireless dongle but the Bluetooth built into the RPi.
using a wired mouse/keyboard is what takes up the USB ports.
My main reason for wanting to use a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard is less
wires on the desktop.
73, steve WB3LGC
On 6/24/20 6:35 PM, Chuck M via groups.io wrote:
Had similar problems when running Logitech wireless mouse and kb using
fldigi and other apps. Wireless is power hungry and may be the
problem. If you get a powered USB hub for the wireless dongle, that can
make it work as well. Usually can find USB 2.x powered hubs for a low
price on ebay or Amazon. Don't need USB 3 for wireless.

Didn't have the problem when running LIbreOffice or other apps. Think
it becomes an issue when processor is busy decoding the radio signals.
Possibly someone more knowledgeable on RPi can expand this further.

73
Chuck
KD9DVB


On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 6:22:18 PM EDT, Marty Hartwell
<mhartwe@...> wrote:


Hi Stephen

I use a Logic brand keyboard and mouse set I got at Office Depot for
about 15.00 Dollars

of so, which uses only one USB Bluetooth interface, so it opens one USB
slot. I don't see

any lag time as in pauses using the mouse and not pausing during typing
but my typing

has gotten slower for a while. Guess I need to get back to typing for
more practice.

Marty kd8bj


On 6/24/20 5:14 PM, stephen shearer wrote:

I have been using my RPi both headless and with a monitor.

When sitting at the monitor, I have tried Bluetooth for the mouse and
keyboard.
I find that both mouse and keyboard get Hung for short periods of time.
I see it when I run wsjt-x.
I have not checked if it happens with a blank screen.
If I use a wired mouse/keyboard I don't see them hang.

Am I doing something wrong?
Are others seeing the same thing?

Not a big deal but it would be nice to reduce USB ports required...

73, steve WB3LGC


I will be using my RPi for FT8/FT4 80M/40M during FD - 1E DE


Re: A bit of help needed

Trigger X
 


Hi Dave,

"No, I do not wish financial compensation for this. However, I do have a PDF on the desktop called "GIVE BACK' which outlines two charities I support. I would appreciate donations to be sent there. And the image is also QSL ware, so if you like it, send me a QSL card! And if you ever find yourself in Atlanta, GA, look me up. We'll go out for a pint together!"


Where is the desktop that you are referring to? I have looked for it a couple of times and I cannot find it.

73,

Tryg

--


Re: A bit of help needed

John Nicholas
 

I got my downloads from the Kilo Prefix  worked fine

Dave Slotter reported some ArmChair Lawyer Gripes on Git Hub, so he pulled the download off that site until it cooled off etc.  The Prefix mirrors are various hams allowing him to use their Google Drive for downloads.

73

de KE0ZUW John

On Jun 25, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Trigger X <triggertech@...> wrote:

Hello again, I have been getting used to things and there is a lot to explore but I am fine with that. I have a fellow ham friend in MA, he just got his Pi4 and is eager to get started. I directed him to the link on QRZ.com but it is not working.  The link that both he and I are getting is in the picture below. Has the d/l link been moved? I am trying to turn as many operators on to this as I can. FYI Dave, it is amazing. If anyone can help with some linkage I would be very grateful. Thanks to evryone that is helping. 73, Tryg
-- <HamPi.jpg>


Re: A bit of help needed

N5XMT
 

I think the link you refer to is the old version before it was renamed to HamPi.
The new version has multiple download options, and here is the section of the original announcement with the links:


w6ray@... w6ray@... via groups.io 

Sun, Jun 21, 4:48 PM (4 days ago)
to RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio
On 6/18/2020 21:09, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:
Attention All Hams Using Raspberry Pi For Ham Radio:

I am pleased to announce that HamPi 1.0 is now available for public download!

Please use the attached BitTorrent file to make it easier for everyone to get the image. And after you have completed downloading, please continue to seed for at least a week so other hams can benefit.

If you cannot or will not use BitTorrent, below are several download mirrors.

Direct Download Links:
US Callsign Alpha Prefix download here: https://bit.ly/HamPi_1_0-W3DJS
US Callsign Kilo Prefix download here: https://bit.ly/HamPi_1_0-WA4ZXV
US Callsign November Prefix download here: https://bit.ly/HamPi_1_0-N5XMT
US Callsign Whiskey Prefix download here: https://bit.ly/HamPi_1_0-KE8OHG
All other Prefixes download here: https://bit.ly/HamPi_1_0-VE4VR

If you run into issues, please post to the forum on https://groups.io/g/RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio/ first. If you see a bug (defect), please report it on the GitHub issues page at: https://github.com/dslotter/HamPi/issues


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:46 AM Trigger X <triggertech@...> wrote:
Hello again, I have been getting used to things and there is a lot to explore but I am fine with that. I have a fellow ham friend in MA, he just got his Pi4 and is eager to get started. I directed him to the link on QRZ.com but it is not working.  The link that both he and I are getting is in the picture below. Has the d/l link been moved? I am trying to turn as many operators on to this as I can. FYI Dave, it is amazing. If anyone can help with some linkage I would be very grateful. Thanks to evryone that is helping. 73, Tryg
--


Re: PAT / Pac-Link Unix / wl2kax25 Questions

N3RDR
 

This is very useful information. I am trying to work winlink via APRS messaging and have been trying to figure out how the routing works.

Thank you very much.

Carlos
N3RDR

Sent from my 📲

On Jun 25, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Brian Webster via groups.io <radiowebst=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

That is more of a packet question.