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Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

KE3KQ
 

Ok, slowly making some progress after numerous download fits and starts. All this in MacOS 10.15.1

Got a copy that was compressed in bzip2 and managed to get it to uncompress from the command line which resulted in a .tar file. Simply double clicking the file seems to decompress it but the resulting file does not work in Etcher.

GalenaEtcher does not seem to know what to do with the .tar file (18.36 GB). When trying to make the image selection the .tar file is light grey and cannot be selected.

This is such a great idea, I hope I can file flashed onto the SD card.

*** Ben KE3KQ


Re: Subscription changes don't work

Alan Melia
 


That is odd Allen they only way that should happen is if you have two subscriptions to the Group. put that one to ''no email'' and see what happens.
Alan
G3NYK
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Subscription changes don't work

See screenshot.  Just accessed website, but made no changes.


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Mark Griffith
 

Perry,

Yes, as I said, USB drive I/O will be much faster than an SD card. even if it is a "regular" HD and not a solid state drive.  I could go on and on but no one wants to hear my rants.  :)

The Raspberry Pi was designed for experimentation, so do what you feel you want to do, and learn as you go!

Mark
KD0QYN


On Friday, November 1, 2019, 11:24:53 AM CDT, Perry Ogletree <afa4nq@...> wrote:


Most of the people going to “disk” storage are using a small (120/240 Gb) SSD in a USB 3.0 housing.  You will see improved boot times and better overall response.

 

Perry K4PWO

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 05:02 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

 

Now-a-days, SD cards are pretty robust so there is no need to buy an extra USB hard drive.  That only makes it harder to power the Pi as you also need to provide power to the HD.

 

If you use Class 10 SD cards, or U1-3, you will have years of hard use.  I have a Class 10 32GB SD card I have been using for nearly 4 years in my development Pi and it still works perfectly.  I've also had hard drives that last years and years, and some that fail quickly.  That's why I back everything up regularly.  I recommend Class 10 cards for all my projects and no one has every had a failure that I am aware of.  That is all I use.

 

Of course, the fastest SD card can't compare to the speed of a USB 3.0 disk drive for I/O, but let's face it....the vast majority of what we do with the RaspPi's will never need those speeds.  10MB/s is still pretty fast.

 

In every situation I have seen, you still need an SD card in the Pi to boot from, and then you can configure it to switch to the USB drive.  I don't think the Pi 4 is any different.

 

Something else to consider, my Pi3's run about 20 degrees cooler than the Pi4, which seems to just be a hotter device.  I installed a set of those cheap Internet cooling fins and it didn't make any difference.  A case with a fan might be required on these, especially if you are intending to drive it hard. Something else to consume power.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 4:39:29 PM CDT, Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

 

 

I will be placing my order for the Pi4 with the 4GB memory. I will be looking at the time of order what will

be available for loading I may be able to order a disk at that time. .

I have seen mention of using a more robust USB disk that can be configured to be root disk is there information on this option or what is you opinion of this?

Marty kd8bj

 

 

On 10/31/2019 3:19 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:

Hi Marty,

32GB Micro SD cards are available for just slightly under $10, or less than going out to lunch (around where I live anyway).

Good luck with the download and install!

Please remember to read the README.TXT. It has some important info, like why the "network doesn't seem to work".

--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Bob Thornton
 

That hint saved a lot of Googling. So the wifi hotspot password is “1234567890”.  And in that file is the WiFi country that defines your channels. The comment tells you to edit if you are not in GB.  But of course it has already been changed to US.  Remember to set up locale and time zone if not in US.  Not picking up time from internet yet, clock seems to pick up from when the image was created.


73 
Bob
G3WKW


Re: Subscription changes don't work

Allen Woolfrey
 

See screenshot.  Just accessed website, but made no changes.


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Charles Blackburn <young_gun262001@...>
 

Coming in late so excuse me, but you HAVE put all the bootcode bins etc from the root directory of the regular rasbian distro for the 4 to that one right?

just a thought as running on a 4 without the rpi4 bootcode in the fat section would cause it not to boot

On 10/31/2019 11:24 AM, Nick Norman wrote:
On 31/10/2019 14:58, Walter Holmes K5WH wrote:
I just pulled down a NEW image via the torrent site as well, and the file size is the same as what I got yesterday, burned it to an SD card, and have the same results on a RPI4 4-gig version.


It still won???t boot.



Walter/K5WH
Walter,

Stupid question but did you 'burn' the file as xxx.img so there is one
file on the SD card or did you use something like etcher to turn the SD
card into a disc with (I expect) 2 partitions on?

Just asking to be sure there is no confusion ...

Regards/73

Nick
M0HGU


Re: Subscription changes don't work

Alan Melia
 


Did you change it on the web site?? some ISP munge the address so the email changes dont always work.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Subscription changes don't work

Interesting group, but the individual messaged are flooding my mailbox.  Set to Special Notices only, still getting individual messaged.  Subscription software not working right.

73 , Al - va3iaw


Re: Subscription changes don't work

Paul KC7PMU
 

I checked Daily Summary only. That has worked for me. 

Maybe a moderator can answer your issue.

Paul kc7pmu


Re: Subscription changes don't work

Allen Woolfrey
 

Interesting group, but the individual messaged are flooding my mailbox.  Set to Special Notices only, still getting individual messaged.  Subscription software not working right.

73 , Al - va3iaw


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

David KD4E <dcolburn@...>
 

For those, like me, not in the know ... here's what IPFS is ...

InterPlanetary File System

https://docs.ipfs.io/introduction/overview/

David KD4E

For those that asked for it (nobody, hihi) here's an IPFS hash for W3DJS' compressed image:

IPFS Hash - QmWZgEwYkvTUiP247mVuEP2q3rwooXzPNKeZ4C43xqwPq2

If you do not have IPFS installed on your PC, and want to use a more traditional 'download from webpage' link, click here: https://ipfs.kc1awv.net/ipfs/QmWZgEwYkvTUiP247mVuEP2q3rwooXzPNKeZ4C43xqwPq2

Hope this helps!

Steve KC1AWV


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Steve KC1AWV
 

For those that asked for it (nobody, hihi) here's an IPFS hash for W3DJS' compressed image:

IPFS Hash - QmWZgEwYkvTUiP247mVuEP2q3rwooXzPNKeZ4C43xqwPq2

If you do not have IPFS installed on your PC, and want to use a more traditional 'download from webpage' link, click here: https://ipfs.kc1awv.net/ipfs/QmWZgEwYkvTUiP247mVuEP2q3rwooXzPNKeZ4C43xqwPq2

Hope this helps!

Steve KC1AWV

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:04 PM Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote:

Now that the initial deluge of downloads and support has passed, I wanted to make a couple brief comments:

Please do remember this is QSL-ware. So if you do enjoy using the image, I'd appreciate a QSL card. And I do support the charityThe Father's Rights Movement (TFRM), which supports fathers who have very little say over their children during custody matters in family courts. So if you folks feel inclined, I would appreciate a donation made to TFRM. Even $3 helps.

Good luck using this, and do please read the README.docx or README.TXT for important instructions.
 
I will be working on a v3 image, but likely this will take a couple of months to develop. I will focus on decreasing the overall size of the image while retaining functionality. And I will also focus on an automated, rather than manual build process. Like I said, this will take a couple of months to develop, because it has to be done on my free time.
 

--
- Dave
  W3DJS



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Now that the initial deluge of downloads and support has passed, I wanted to make a couple brief comments:

Please do remember this is QSL-ware. So if you do enjoy using the image, I'd appreciate a QSL card. And I do support the charityThe Father's Rights Movement (TFRM), which supports fathers who have very little say over their children during custody matters in family courts. So if you folks feel inclined, I would appreciate a donation made to TFRM. Even $3 helps.

Good luck using this, and do please read the README.docx or README.TXT for important instructions.
 
I will be working on a v3 image, but likely this will take a couple of months to develop. I will focus on decreasing the overall size of the image while retaining functionality. And I will also focus on an automated, rather than manual build process. Like I said, this will take a couple of months to develop, because it has to be done on my free time.
 

--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Im

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Mat,

Just as long as you don't modify it (other than compression), I am ok with it.

Please do remember this is QSL-ware. So if you do enjoy using the image, I'd appreciate a QSL card. And I do support the charity, The Father's Rights Movement (TFRM), which supports fathers who have very little say over their children during custody matters in family courts. So if you folks feel inclined, I would appreciate a donation made to TFRM.

Good luck using this, and do please read the README.docx or README.TXT for important instructions.


73,
--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Im

Dave Slotter, W3DJS
 

Hi Edward.

Offhand, the easiest way is to reboot, as the "KillHotspot" bash alias is only temporary. I hadn't thought about including something to re-enable it.

73,

--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Perry Ogletree
 

Most of the people going to “disk” storage are using a small (120/240 Gb) SSD in a USB 3.0 housing.  You will see improved boot times and better overall response.

 

Perry K4PWO

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 05:02 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

 

Now-a-days, SD cards are pretty robust so there is no need to buy an extra USB hard drive.  That only makes it harder to power the Pi as you also need to provide power to the HD.

 

If you use Class 10 SD cards, or U1-3, you will have years of hard use.  I have a Class 10 32GB SD card I have been using for nearly 4 years in my development Pi and it still works perfectly.  I've also had hard drives that last years and years, and some that fail quickly.  That's why I back everything up regularly.  I recommend Class 10 cards for all my projects and no one has every had a failure that I am aware of.  That is all I use.

 

Of course, the fastest SD card can't compare to the speed of a USB 3.0 disk drive for I/O, but let's face it....the vast majority of what we do with the RaspPi's will never need those speeds.  10MB/s is still pretty fast.

 

In every situation I have seen, you still need an SD card in the Pi to boot from, and then you can configure it to switch to the USB drive.  I don't think the Pi 4 is any different.

 

Something else to consider, my Pi3's run about 20 degrees cooler than the Pi4, which seems to just be a hotter device.  I installed a set of those cheap Internet cooling fins and it didn't make any difference.  A case with a fan might be required on these, especially if you are intending to drive it hard. Something else to consume power.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 4:39:29 PM CDT, Marty Hartwell <mhartwe@...> wrote:

 

 

I will be placing my order for the Pi4 with the 4GB memory. I will be looking at the time of order what will

be available for loading I may be able to order a disk at that time. .

I have seen mention of using a more robust USB disk that can be configured to be root disk is there information on this option or what is you opinion of this?

Marty kd8bj

 

 

On 10/31/2019 3:19 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:

Hi Marty,

32GB Micro SD cards are available for just slightly under $10, or less than going out to lunch (around where I live anyway).

Good luck with the download and install!

Please remember to read the README.TXT. It has some important info, like why the "network doesn't seem to work".

--
- Dave
  W3DJS


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Roger Reeves M0ROJ
 

Thanks Al. Its now downloading as a trickle rather than a deluge. But hey ho - time will tell. And I must order my RasPi 4 now.
73 Roger M0ROJ


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...>
 

I was just really surprised to see nothing uploading. I will restart Deluge when I get home this evening.

Tim 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 10:13 AM Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> wrote:
Tim,

The torrent is live with 20 seeds and 67 completed downloads. My host was one of the original seeds and I have a combined ratio of 8.70. I'm seeing one or two peers every couple hours download a gig or so from me today.

Since there's a good number of seeds to pull from, I think that the amount of traffic that each will see will be much smaller now.

Steve KC1AWV

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
After downloading the image with Deluge yesterday I left the torrent program running to help the cause. I noticed this morning when I left for work that there had been no upload activity for quite a while. Did something change that caused this or does everyone who wants it have it now (unlikely.)

I have not tried it yet. My R-Pi4 and memory cards are "out for delivery".

Tim N9PUZ



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Steve KC1AWV
 

Tim,

The torrent is live with 20 seeds and 67 completed downloads. My host was one of the original seeds and I have a combined ratio of 8.70. I'm seeing one or two peers every couple hours download a gig or so from me today.

Since there's a good number of seeds to pull from, I think that the amount of traffic that each will see will be much smaller now.

Steve KC1AWV


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...> wrote:
After downloading the image with Deluge yesterday I left the torrent program running to help the cause. I noticed this morning when I left for work that there had been no upload activity for quite a while. Did something change that caused this or does everyone who wants it have it now (unlikely.)

I have not tried it yet. My R-Pi4 and memory cards are "out for delivery".

Tim N9PUZ



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Tim McDonough N9PUZ <tim.n9puz@...>
 

After downloading the image with Deluge yesterday I left the torrent program running to help the cause. I noticed this morning when I left for work that there had been no upload activity for quite a while. Did something change that caused this or does everyone who wants it have it now (unlikely.)

I have not tried it yet. My R-Pi4 and memory cards are "out for delivery".

Tim N9PUZ


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

Al Duncan VE3RRD
 

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