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Re: Adventure of the Day #1

Dennis Nelson
 

One question for you, where did you get the image? I found that the archLinuxArm from element14 was corrupt and wouldn't boot. Of course
if the card is bad(does happen), try getting a replacement. I've had better luck with the sandisk cards.



From: John
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:15 PM
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Adventure of the Day #1

 
The day started out well. The second Raspberry Pi that I ordered on the 19th from Adafruit came today (the 22nd) so I thought I would get it online. I took a brand new 8G Kingston sd out and started to load it. The image program balked, saying that the card was locked. Try the other Win 7 machne, same thing! Google coughs up a lengthy todo list. http://oddsnsods.net/blog/?p=100 looked scarey but promising. All these years and I never saw a command line disk partition program before today. I deleted the partition in the sd card as instructed and went back to the disk image program. Now it says the image won't fit on the 8G sd card. OK, I am no stranger to trouble, I will restore the format on the sd card and work up a plan for the next step. Uh-Oh! The windows format command says it cannot do the format. So here I am reporting back. Some where there is a special format program for sd cards, I need to find it.
Next, I suspect th image sved was a complete image and not just the install programs. The empty locations were probably included in the dump. I also suspect the Dump-restore was done by Linux and it is more efficient with the sd card.
That is the story for today.
I doubt I am ready to build that image from the insructions...YET.
de John W8CCW




Re: Adventure of the Day #1

Kerry McKenzie <kermck@...>
 

John
that little link you sent out ....just tried it and works a treat, I have now unbricked my 32gig SD card there is a bit more to it after you unbrick it using the manage function in windows 7 but can cover this later as i should be working and not sitting on here and having lots of fun doing Rasperry PI stuff and replying to this list..:-))...ha ha will come back tonight and give you the instructions if you havent already worked it out
regards Kerry

--
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia


Re: Adventure of the Day #1

 

"To use an image file, you will need to unzip it and write it to a suitable SD card using the UNIX tool dd. Windows users should use Win32DiskImager. Do not try to drag and drop or otherwise copy over the image without using dd or Win32DiskImager – it won’t work. If you’re still not clear on what to do, the community on the Raspberry Pi Wiki has written aguide for beginners on how to set up your SD card." == http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads


John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
  


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM, John <jferrell13@...> wrote:
 

The day started out well. The second Raspberry Pi that I ordered on the 19th from Adafruit came today (the 22nd) so I thought I would get it online. I took a brand new 8G Kingston sd out and started to load it. The image program balked, saying that the card was locked. Try the other Win 7 machne, same thing! Google coughs up a lengthy todo list. http://oddsnsods.net/blog/?p=100 looked scarey but promising. All these years and I never saw a command line disk partition program before today. I deleted the partition in the sd card as instructed and went back to the disk image program. Now it says the image won't fit on the 8G sd card. OK, I am no stranger to trouble, I will restore the format on the sd card and work up a plan for the next step. Uh-Oh! The windows format command says it cannot do the format. So here I am reporting back. Some where there is a special format program for sd cards, I need to find it.
Next, I suspect th image sved was a complete image and not just the install programs. The empty locations were probably included in the dump. I also suspect the Dump-restore was done by Linux and it is more efficient with the sd card.
That is the story for today.
I doubt I am ready to build that image from the insructions...YET.
de John W8CCW



Re: Adventure of the Day #1

Kerry McKenzie <kermck@...>
 

John
i am in the same boat as you, i managed to turn my 32gig sd into a 53meg sd card.
I am still trying to find some software to get it back to something that I can use again ,...it was not cheap
so i hope i haven't frontal lobotomized it for good!!

If I find some software that will fix it and restore my 32gigs i will post it here as I am sure we wont be the last ones that this will happen to.
Kerry

--
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia


Re: Problem with Rspbarry

 

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, John <john@hays.org> wrote:

Buy a new SD card -- -- some last a long time, some go quickly. If you are running
a program that writes to "disk" regularly (e.g. logs, databases, etc.) they
will go quicker.
Hopefully this is a silly question - but are the running Linux from
Flash good practices, like 'noatime' being followed?

http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/linux-on-flash.html

I would expect a CF card to last a long time unless something really
silly is done like writing a test loop that gets stuck writing
thousands to times to one location - guess how I know about that
one...

Bill, WA7NWP


Another small snipet of info that might save you a bundle

Kerry McKenzie <kermck@...>
 

Greetings all
when searching out all things Rasberry PI, I quickly discovered that all things are not equal when using google

Being in Australia my default browser windows explorer will default to google .com.au and as a result the searches for all things rasberry pi including retail purchases
are redirected back locally in Australia. in other words I am not getting a true search, and found this to be the same for google hongkong and google uk etc etc.

To get around this is a simple matter of going into tools and in the drop down menu at the very bottom is internet options
When you click on this if you are using google as you default screen as i am,... you will see the google url and i will guess and say that it
will automatically be defaulting to your home country.

If you change this to the country that you wish to search out of it will look like the following

http://www.google.com/hk this is for Hongkong

http://www.google.co.jp/ this is to search out of Japan

http://www.google.co.nz/ this is to search out of New Zealand

Now what the hell is he on about you might wonder??? however the advantage is that google will favour the local area
as they get paid advertising revenue to do this.

Here is a good example of just how you can save heaps by serarching the correct area rather than be rounded up like cattle into where google wants
you to go.

my wife was looking for a lounge suite and did the usual google search and found one in our local area for $1800.
I got her to type in http://google.com/ncr and type in the same company where she had found the lounge suite only to find
the exact same thing from the same company chain down in Brisbane for $1300
We then contacted a freight company and could get it shipped to our door for $150 so even with the freight taken out she still
saved herself $350 just by searching out of here country but the redirect went to Brisbane and not Townsville.
The lesson is that the company chain will not sell the same product for the same price across Australia

my searches for accessories for my Rasberry PI worked very much the same way and i brought items out of china freight free
for a quarter of what it was going to cost me to buy the same thing from the USA
I also search out of google Hongkong a lot and get some fantastic deals that i would have otherwise missed out on.

So the moral of this is search out of different countries when looking for your PI accessories and save yourself quite a bit of money
and time doing so,... as you can get pretty much anything.

So beware google is not google @ww
the closest google@ww I could find is in the usa and that is to search using http://www.google.com/ncr however it is not perfect either!

I hope this might help you find that Rasberry accessory faster and cheaper

--
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia


Re: Problem with Rspbarry

 

Buy a new SD card (a few in fact, make multiple copies of OS and applications) -- some last a long time, some go quickly.  If you are running a program that writes to "disk" regularly (e.g. logs, databases, etc.) they will go quicker.


John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
  


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Luigi Ik7ytq <ik7ytq@...> wrote:
 

My raspberry after a few hours of operation I understood that the SD card is corrupted and crashes. how can I fix this?

Thanks for the help ik7ytq Luigi

Inviato da iPad



Re: Problem with Rspbarry

Kerry McKenzie <kermck@...>
 

Luigi Ik7ytq wrote:
 

My raspberry after a few hours of operation I understood that the SD card is corrupted and crashes. how can I fix this?

Thanks for the help ik7ytq Luigi

Inviato da iPad

greeting Luigi and the group

I had this in the very beginning and found two possible problems.
The first is to change your power supply to at least 1 amp   (old phone charger HTC)  to connect straight to the RPI
I also use a 2 amp powered  4 port hub connected to one of my usb ports and this works a treat
as no possible power problems anymore

Ok next possible problem is the speed of your SD card as i started with a class 2 card which crashed often
i have now switched to a class 10 card Sandisk and never had another crash since

Hope this is of help to you Luigi...... cheers Kerry

-- 
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia


Adventure of the Day #1

John
 

The day started out well. The second Raspberry Pi that I ordered on the 19th from Adafruit came today (the 22nd) so I thought I would get it online. I took a brand new 8G Kingston sd out and started to load it. The image program balked, saying that the card was locked. Try the other Win 7 machne, same thing! Google coughs up a lengthy todo list. http://oddsnsods.net/blog/?p=100 looked scarey but promising. All these years and I never saw a command line disk partition program before today. I deleted the partition in the sd card as instructed and went back to the disk image program. Now it says the image won't fit on the 8G sd card. OK, I am no stranger to trouble, I will restore the format on the sd card and work up a plan for the next step. Uh-Oh! The windows format command says it cannot do the format. So here I am reporting back. Some where there is a special format program for sd cards, I need to find it.
Next, I suspect th image sved was a complete image and not just the install programs. The empty locations were probably included in the dump. I also suspect the Dump-restore was done by Linux and it is more efficient with the sd card.
That is the story for today.
I doubt I am ready to build that image from the insructions...YET.
de John W8CCW


Pulling up and RDP session in Windows and the Rasberry PI

Kerry McKenzie <kermck@...>
 

Greeting all
First I am sorry for assuming that everyone knows about the windows side of RDP.
I am a Rasberry Newby and I am also one week into Linux so I am certainly no expert and hardly make even a beginner, however I have been doing pc stuff since the first XT came out gods knows when.
And I wrongly assumed that most of us on this forum were windows savey and rasberry PI poor as I am very much the latter.

I digress slight however pertinent to this discussion that using the old terms back in the days of Dos were there was no GUI's and everything was done from a command line
When the GUI appeared in windows from that point on everyone in order to do dos stuff if you were using windows had to pull up a dos window to get the command prompt.
So as time progressed people used the GUI more and more and the art of command line became less and less.

Since we have already covered how to get remote desktop enabled in the Rasberry PI and I will paste it in here so save anyone not sure where this all started from....can at least get on the right page.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greetings all and great to be on this list.
I am a total newby to the Rasberry PI having no linux backround at all
and have a working RPI for only 10 days.
I now have mine playing Minecraft and I am able to RDP into it from my
windows 7 box upstairs
Ok here what I eventually found what to do

Step One....
Fire up your PI and open a terminal window
---------------------------------------------------
Step Two...
from the prompt type the following

sudo apt-get update

and let it do its thing
-------------------------------------------------
Step Three
from the prompt type the following

sudo apt-get install xrdp

and let it do its thing
--------------------------------------------------
Reboot your RPI

Now go to your windows box and pull up a rdp session
Type in the IP address of your PI
default is 192.168.0.10

You will get a login screen
Default Login for the RPI is "PI"
and enter the password that you used on the inital setup
and thats it.......enjoy
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now lets cross to the dark side and open an RDP session in windows so we can see the Rasberry PI's desktop on our windows box.

I do everything here with RDP as all my pc stuff is in a rack mount down stairs and because I live 19 degrees from the equator it is pretty
hot right now and steamy as we are in the midst of our wet session.
My work station is in a much nicer and cooler surround and so i use RDP to to talk to my packet radio BBS and webserver plus the file
server and now also my Rasberry PI all from my cooler workstation.

Right lets get on with it....

-----------------------------------------------------------
to pull up and RDP session in windows do the following
click start
then program
then accessories
look down the list and you will find "Remote Desktop Connection"
in windows 7 if you right click on it you are able to send it as a short cut to your desktop
OK thats the long way using your GUI
------------------------------------------------------------
part two another option and my preferred
click start
then click run
In the box type the following mstsc and press enter
(what you have just selected from a command prompt is Microsoft Terminal Services)
This will open up and RDP session on your windows desktop ready to connect to a remote computer
and for the Dos boffin the quickest way to get to an RDP

------------------------------------------------------------------

Ok last way to do it is from your command prompt (to get that click start and in windows 7 you get the search box, just type in there cmd and this will give you
the black box where in the old dos days thats all we had. Anyway in the black box just type the same mstsc and press enter, this will lunch a terminal service ready for you to just type in
the ip address of your raspberry pi and the rest is covered above

Ok this now covers both sides of Remote Desk toping both the Rasberry PI and a windows box part two is the best for me but you may prefer other ways....enjoy!

--
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie


Australia


Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

John
 

Remote Desk top connection is about the seventh item down in the acessories folder in the Programs panel on my Win 7 Machine. You get to the Programs panel by clicking on the Start button in the bottom left corner.

--- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Simpson" <goatguy101@...> wrote:

You were doing great until you got to "Now go to your windows box and pull up a rdp session". What is an RDP session on Windows? Where do you get it?

K3IND

----- Original Message -----
From: Kerry McKenzie
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:37 AM
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI



Greetings all and great to be on this list.
I am a total newby to the Rasberry PI having no linux backround at all
and have a working RPI for only 10 days.
I now have mine playing Minecraft and I am able to RDP into it from my
windows 7 box upstairs
Ok here what I eventually found what to do

Step One....
Fire up your PI and open a terminal window
---------------------------------------------------
Step Two...
from the prompt type the following

sudo apt-get update

and let it do its thing
-------------------------------------------------
Step Three
from the prompt type the following

sudo apt-get install xrdp

and let it do its thing
--------------------------------------------------
Reboot your RPI

Now go to your windows box and pull up a rdp session
Type in the IP address of your PI
default is 192.168.0.10

You will get a login screen
Default Login for the RPI is "PI"
and enter the password that you used on the inital setup
and thats it.......enjoy

--
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia


Re: Problem with Rspbarry

Adrian <vk4tux@...>
 

 

 

My raspberry after a few hours of operation I understood that the SD card is corrupted and crashes. how can I fix this?

Thanks for the help ik7ytq Luigi

Inviato da iPad

 

Buying a good quality type 10 card 8GB minimum (32GB or 64GB  recommended is well worthwhile, and reload the image.

Also make sure your usb port is powered externally. Try not to draw power from the Rpi for USB..

 

Adrian … vk4tux


Problem with Rspbarry

Luigi Ik7ytq <ik7ytq@...>
 

My raspberry after a few hours of operation I understood that the SD card is corrupted and crashes. how can I fix this?

Thanks for the help ik7ytq Luigi

Inviato da iPad


Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

Dave B <dave@...>
 

On 22 Feb 2013 at 15:39, Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yaho wrote:

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI
From: Kerry McKenzie
1b. Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI
From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
1c. Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI
From: John Ferrell
1d. Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI
From: Kerry McKenzie
1e. Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI
From: jj
All a bit long winded I suspect, though it obviously works...

I seem to remember using the Pi'd version of VNC server, and a VNC viewer
on my Windows box. Much less hassle. Forget where I got the server app
from, the Repository I suspect, as I knew even less then than I do now.

That and a PuTTy SSH session or two also running, and it's just like
sitting in front of a "real" Debian box!

There are some nice and low cost self contained HDMI to VGA converters
available too now, for a Tenner (£10 UKP) you can have a decent screen.
Everyone seems to have at least one surplus VGA display kicking about,
but HDMI stuff is either non existant or reserverd for watching East
Enders (or someother crud.)

Some initial SSH tweaking of a config file is needed at first with the
Debian OS's to get the settings "just right". The original Fedora remix
distro, just worked with it straight out of the box. Impressive.

Cheers.

Dave G0WBX.


DVAPTool version 1.04 for Raspberry Pi released]

Adrian <vk4tux@...>
 


Ok have it working (Rpi) in Fedora remix fc17 xfce;





A few little tricks to make it work;

~]#sudo yum install *glibc* *qt4*

~]#sudo ln -s /lib/ld-linux.so.3 /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3

Adrian ... vk4tux


Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

Ken
 

The command your looking for is sudo apt-get install -y tightvncserver

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


jj <ve1jot@...> wrote:

 

On 13-02-22 11:29 AM, jj wrote:
 

On 13-02-22 07:37 AM, Kerry McKenzie wrote:
> Step Two...
> from the prompt type the following
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> and let it do its thing
That will as far as I know, only update the package list, you need
to also tell it to upgrade "sudo apt-get upgrade" to d/l and install
pkgs up-to-date..

apt-get man page: "http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get"....some good stuff to know, hi hi!


Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

JJ
 

On 13-02-22 11:29 AM, jj wrote:
 

On 13-02-22 07:37 AM, Kerry McKenzie wrote:
> Step Two...
> from the prompt type the following
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> and let it do its thing
That will as far as I know, only update the package list, you need
to also tell it to upgrade "sudo apt-get upgrade" to d/l and install
pkgs up-to-date..

apt-get man page: "http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get"....some good stuff to know, hi hi!


R Pi Remote access the easy way

Rick Simpson <goatguy101@...>
 

Just do it the way the RasPi organization recommends: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21610
 
...simple steps, thoroughly explained by someone who knows the system.
 
Rick


Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

Rick Simpson <goatguy101@...>
 

You were doing great until you got to "Now go to your windows box and pull up a rdp session". What is an RDP session on Windows? Where do you get it?
 
K3IND
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:37 AM
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

 

Greetings all and great to be on this list.
I am a total newby to the Rasberry PI having no linux backround at all
and have a working RPI for only 10 days.
I now have mine playing Minecraft and I am able to RDP into it from my
windows 7 box upstairs
Ok here what I eventually found what to do

Step One....
Fire up your PI and open a terminal window
---------------------------------------------------
Step Two...
from the prompt type the following

sudo apt-get update

and let it do its thing
-------------------------------------------------
Step Three
from the prompt type the following

sudo apt-get install xrdp

and let it do its thing
--------------------------------------------------
Reboot your RPI

Now go to your windows box and pull up a rdp session
Type in the IP address of your PI
default is 192.168.0.10

You will get a login screen
Default Login for the RPI is "PI"
and enter the password that you used on the inital setup
and thats it.......enjoy

--
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia


Re: How to install and run remote desktop to your Rasberry PI

Kerry McKenzie <kermck@...>
 

jj wrote:
 

On 13-02-22 07:37 AM, Kerry McKenzie wrote:
> Step Two...
> from the prompt type the following
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> and let it do its thing
That will as far as I know, only update the package list, you need
to also tell it to upgrade "sudo apt-get upgrade" to d/l and install
pkgs up-to-date..

Greeting JJ
you may well be correct as I mentioned I am a total newby to Debian Wheezy however it worked just fine and I now am able to remote into my PI
i am unable to tell you what it did as there was a lot of traffic on my network for a short time but i can assure you I had no hope of getting remote
desktop before typing in the command line and letting it update then running the second command.However once this completed it is working an absolute treat!


cheers Kerry

-- 
Kind Regards
Kerry McKenzie

Mobile 041 971 4876

PO Box 4492
Kirwan QLD 4817
Australia

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