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Re: jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

Mike Murphree N4MHO
 

Jerry,

Funny in the regard that the radio links those systems operated on, were barely adequate then.  Tampa had one of the largest packet networks in the country, yet messages passed by the largest of systems only numbered a few thousand per day, while the NOS based systems generally only passed a few hundred.  The dream of wireless networking was only achievable for relatively small amounts of data.  The RF layer needed to change in order to provide something truly useful.  The relatively low density of hams willing to run a system 24/7 to support it, hampered things further. 

73
Mike N4MHO (ex N4CNW, W4LNA)


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Kutche, Jerry (Mitchell) USA <JKutche@...> wrote:


Hello Mike why does it seem funny...  
BPQ and FBB and TNOS have beena round a long time
 
BPQ still in active development (new to Linux) after 20+ Years
FBB I have seen no updates in years.. Last update that works???
TNOS.. I have not seen any there either at least in years... Last update I can find is 2010
 
Jnos
www.langelaar.net/projects/jnos2/ Actively in developement as well..  Last updated 3/2012
 
Just curious what is funny or odd???
 
 

 

BPQ32 and JNOS Sysop.

73 Jerry



From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Mike Murphree
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:11 PM
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Seems funny that JNOS is being discussed again some 20 years since I last used it on a Linux box.  Depending on what you are trying to do with it, there were alternatives out there,  Brian Lantz's TNOS (optimized for BBS use) and FBB.  TNOS is available on a SourceForge site now I think.

73
Mike N4MHO


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM, jerome schatten <va7vv@...> wrote:


Thanks John... yes, I kept a copy of the binary that was made with all the debugging info in it, so that I could run gdb if necessary. I'm not a coder, so I'm not sure how much sense the gdb output is going to make to me, but I will try.

I'm getting more positive that the problem is in the 'mbox' code, as I hashed out all the setup info for the mbox, and it ran solid over night. No forwarding this way, but it didn't drop out to the OS either.

Again thanks for your suggestion..
jerome - ve7ass

--- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:

From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 2:31 AM


 

Jerome,
 
I can't help with jnos specifically, but I suggest  you run the program under the debugger (gdb). This should at least show where the program is failing, and if it is always in the same place.
 
gdb jnos2
r
 
if it stops within gdb, the bt copmmand will display a stack trace.This may give a cluse, or at least give you something to report to the jnos developer.
 
To get the most info, jnos has to be compiled with the -g option - check the makefile to see if it is set.
 
73, John

 

From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 02:27
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.

In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.

What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?

In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass








Re: jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

John G8BPQ
 

Ok, Jerome.
 
Do you particularly want to use nos? There is now a Linux version of BPQ32.
 
73, John
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 16:39
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Thanks John... yes, I kept a copy of the binary that was made with all the debugging info in it, so that I could run gdb if necessary. I'm not a coder, so I'm not sure how much sense the gdb output is going to make to me, but I will try.

I'm getting more positive that the problem is in the 'mbox' code, as I hashed out all the setup info for the mbox, and it ran solid over night. No forwarding this way, but it didn't drop out to the OS either.

Again thanks for your suggestion..
jerome - ve7ass


--- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Wiseman wrote:

From: John Wiseman
Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 2:31 AM

 

Jerome,
 
I can't help with jnos specifically, but I suggest  you run the program under the debugger (gdb). This should at least show where the program is failing, and if it is always in the same place.
 
gdb jnos2
r
 
if it stops within gdb, the bt copmmand will display a stack trace.This may give a cluse, or at least give you something to report to the jnos developer.
 
To get the most info, jnos has to be compiled with the -g option - check the makefile to see if it is set.
 
73, John

 

From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 02:27
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.

In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.

What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?

In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass


Re: jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

Kutche, Jerry (Mitchell) USA <JKutche@...>
 

Hello Mike why does it seem funny...  
BPQ and FBB and TNOS have beena round a long time
 
BPQ still in active development (new to Linux) after 20+ Years
FBB I have seen no updates in years.. Last update that works???
TNOS.. I have not seen any there either at least in years... Last update I can find is 2010
 
Jnos
www.langelaar.net/projects/jnos2/ Actively in developement as well..  Last updated 3/2012
 
Just curious what is funny or odd???
 
 

 

BPQ32 and JNOS Sysop.

73 Jerry



From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Mike Murphree
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:11 PM
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Seems funny that JNOS is being discussed again some 20 years since I last used it on a Linux box.  Depending on what you are trying to do with it, there were alternatives out there,  Brian Lantz's TNOS (optimized for BBS use) and FBB.  TNOS is available on a SourceForge site now I think.

73
Mike N4MHO


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM, jerome schatten <va7vv@...> wrote:


Thanks John... yes, I kept a copy of the binary that was made with all the debugging info in it, so that I could run gdb if necessary. I'm not a coder, so I'm not sure how much sense the gdb output is going to make to me, but I will try.

I'm getting more positive that the problem is in the 'mbox' code, as I hashed out all the setup info for the mbox, and it ran solid over night. No forwarding this way, but it didn't drop out to the OS either.

Again thanks for your suggestion..
jerome - ve7ass

--- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:

From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 2:31 AM


 

Jerome,
 
I can't help with jnos specifically, but I suggest  you run the program under the debugger (gdb). This should at least show where the program is failing, and if it is always in the same place.
 
gdb jnos2
r
 
if it stops within gdb, the bt copmmand will display a stack trace.This may give a cluse, or at least give you something to report to the jnos developer.
 
To get the most info, jnos has to be compiled with the -g option - check the makefile to see if it is set.
 
73, John

 

From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 02:27
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.

In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.

What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?

In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass





Re: jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

Mike Murphree N4MHO
 

Seems funny that JNOS is being discussed again some 20 years since I last used it on a Linux box.  Depending on what you are trying to do with it, there were alternatives out there,  Brian Lantz's TNOS (optimized for BBS use) and FBB.  TNOS is available on a SourceForge site now I think.

73
Mike N4MHO


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM, jerome schatten <va7vv@...> wrote:


Thanks John... yes, I kept a copy of the binary that was made with all the debugging info in it, so that I could run gdb if necessary. I'm not a coder, so I'm not sure how much sense the gdb output is going to make to me, but I will try.

I'm getting more positive that the problem is in the 'mbox' code, as I hashed out all the setup info for the mbox, and it ran solid over night. No forwarding this way, but it didn't drop out to the OS either.

Again thanks for your suggestion..
jerome - ve7ass

--- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:

From: John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...>
Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 2:31 AM


 

Jerome,
 
I can't help with jnos specifically, but I suggest  you run the program under the debugger (gdb). This should at least show where the program is failing, and if it is always in the same place.
 
gdb jnos2
r
 
if it stops within gdb, the bt copmmand will display a stack trace.This may give a cluse, or at least give you something to report to the jnos developer.
 
To get the most info, jnos has to be compiled with the -g option - check the makefile to see if it is set.
 
73, John

 

From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 02:27
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.

In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.

What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?

In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass





Re: jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

jerome schatten
 

Thanks John... yes, I kept a copy of the binary that was made with all the debugging info in it, so that I could run gdb if necessary. I'm not a coder, so I'm not sure how much sense the gdb output is going to make to me, but I will try.

I'm getting more positive that the problem is in the 'mbox' code, as I hashed out all the setup info for the mbox, and it ran solid over night. No forwarding this way, but it didn't drop out to the OS either.

Again thanks for your suggestion..
jerome - ve7ass


--- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Wiseman wrote:

From: John Wiseman
Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 2:31 AM

 

Jerome,
 
I can't help with jnos specifically, but I suggest  you run the program under the debugger (gdb). This should at least show where the program is failing, and if it is always in the same place.
 
gdb jnos2
r
 
if it stops within gdb, the bt copmmand will display a stack trace.This may give a cluse, or at least give you something to report to the jnos developer.
 
To get the most info, jnos has to be compiled with the -g option - check the makefile to see if it is set.
 
73, John

 

From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 02:27
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.

In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.

What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?

In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass


Re: jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

John G8BPQ
 

Jerome,
 
I can't help with jnos specifically, but I suggest  you run the program under the debugger (gdb). This should at least show where the program is failing, and if it is always in the same place.
 
gdb jnos2
r
 
if it stops within gdb, the bt copmmand will display a stack trace.This may give a cluse, or at least give you something to report to the jnos developer.
 
To get the most info, jnos has to be compiled with the -g option - check the makefile to see if it is set.
 
73, John

 

From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of jerome schatten
Sent: 14 February 2013 02:27
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.

In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.

What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?

In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass


jnos on my RPi keeps crashing -- help?

jerome schatten
 

Hi... I've been working on this for over a month, and I have finally
run out of things to try, so I need some help. I've also posted this to the Nos-BBS list.

The Problem:

I have compiled from source (all defaults), various versions of Jnos for
the RP and they all compile without error (lot's of warnings, but no
fatal errors) and each produces a working executable. All jnos functions
seem to work, but after anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (and
sometimes several days), Jnos crashes back to the operating system. It
never hangs the pi, it just unceremoniously exits.


In an effort to bisect the problem (hardware vs. software), here's what
I've tried:

1. Power supplies, various: from a 5v/1A wall wart to a lab-grade
regulated supply connected to the GPIO 5v pins; no difference.

2. Burn a new SD card (tried various brands); no difference.

3. Examined the jnos logs to see if there was a pattern to the
activities before the crash. Results don't seem to indicate anything
obvious. The actual crash could be many minutes after a logged event. Of
course not all events are logged, so that fact that all Mailbox activity
shows up a lot before a crash, can't be pinned to anything. That said,
there's one command that kicks jnos right out to the OS pronto and that
is 'mbox kick'. Bang jnos quits. Maybe this is the big clue?

4. apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade; then recompile and try new binary;
no difference.

5. download latest image, burn new card and repeat 4 above; no
difference

6. Remove USB peripherals one by one and rebooting; no difference.

7. Move jnos from SD card to memory stick; no difference.

8. Run in GUI terminal/Run without GUI in linux terminal; no difference.


What I have not tried:

1. I have not swapped out the pi

2. I have not run any memory (ram) diagnostics as I can't find any to
run. Help here?


In conclusion, I have no indication from running different apps on the
pi, that the pi is faulty -- no flakyness at all, except when running
jnos. Of course I don't have any apps that continually exercise the pi
the way jnos does. If you know of any I could try, please let me know.

As well, is there anything I can try to change in the compilation
process that might be useful? Has anyone gotten their pi and jnos to work together?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Jerome - ve7ass


Interesting Article About Tethering the RasPi to Cell Phone

 

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/n900-slice-raspberry-pi


John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
  


Re: addon board on group photo

Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
 

I forgot that all China Post is stopped pretty much also.    Hope to have an assembled before Field Day.  Any way to pre-order?  I would put in a Paypal now for a ready to use unit off the line.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:13 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Ronny,
 
They shouldn't be long. John is testing it at the moment, and I understand the first few will be advertised soon. The main batch of boards may be slightly delayed by the Chinese New Year.
 
73, John G8BPQ
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
Sent: 12 February 2013 09:25

To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

John is this still on the way?  Looking forward to it.  Thanks!

Ronny


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> wrote:
Thanks!  I'll get a separate Pi for this and be ready for first run.  


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:16 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Ronny,
 
There is a fair bit of info on the TNC in this group's message archive, but to summarize, the TNC will be supplied by John Hansen W2FS, the maker of the TNC-X, and will be available, probably via the TNC-X website, in both kit and ready made form. Price and delivery aren't yet finalised, but I expect the kit to be in the $40-50 range, and availability in a few weeks.
 
73, John
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
Sent: 19 January 2013 11:04
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

Are you going to have them on your site for sale as kits or completed TNCs?  I'd like to be in on the first run if you are taking pre-orders.  What is your expected price range?

Ronny
K4RJJ


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:28 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Kristoff,
 
The photo is a standard TNC-X board, which I modified by supergluing a bit of matrix board with a 26 way header to it. It is complete and functional - the missing components are for the USB or RS232 interfaces that are not needed. It connects to the async port on the PI header. This was the prototype for the PI TNC which should soon be available.
 
73, John G8BPQ
 
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Kristoff Bonne
Sent: 18 January 2013 23:35
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...

Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

Hi,

Perhaps a stupid question but can somebody say what is the RPi addon
board on the photo of the group on yahoo?

(it doesn't even seams to be complete)

73
Kristoff - ON1ARF






Re: addon board on group photo

John G8BPQ
 

Ronny,
 
They shouldn't be long. John is testing it at the moment, and I understand the first few will be advertised soon. The main batch of boards may be slightly delayed by the Chinese New Year.
 
73, John G8BPQ
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
Sent: 12 February 2013 09:25
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

John is this still on the way?  Looking forward to it.  Thanks!

Ronny


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> wrote:
Thanks!  I'll get a separate Pi for this and be ready for first run.  


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:16 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Ronny,
 
There is a fair bit of info on the TNC in this group's message archive, but to summarize, the TNC will be supplied by John Hansen W2FS, the maker of the TNC-X, and will be available, probably via the TNC-X website, in both kit and ready made form. Price and delivery aren't yet finalised, but I expect the kit to be in the $40-50 range, and availability in a few weeks.
 
73, John
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
Sent: 19 January 2013 11:04
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

Are you going to have them on your site for sale as kits or completed TNCs?  I'd like to be in on the first run if you are taking pre-orders.  What is your expected price range?

Ronny
K4RJJ


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:28 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Kristoff,
 
The photo is a standard TNC-X board, which I modified by supergluing a bit of matrix board with a 26 way header to it. It is complete and functional - the missing components are for the USB or RS232 interfaces that are not needed. It connects to the async port on the PI header. This was the prototype for the PI TNC which should soon be available.
 
73, John G8BPQ
 
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Kristoff Bonne
Sent: 18 January 2013 23:35
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...

Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

Hi,

Perhaps a stupid question but can somebody say what is the RPi addon
board on the photo of the group on yahoo?

(it doesn't even seams to be complete)

73
Kristoff - ON1ARF





Re: addon board on group photo

Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
 

John is this still on the way?  Looking forward to it.  Thanks!
Ronny


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> wrote:
Thanks!  I'll get a separate Pi for this and be ready for first run.  


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:16 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Ronny,
 
There is a fair bit of info on the TNC in this group's message archive, but to summarize, the TNC will be supplied by John Hansen W2FS, the maker of the TNC-X, and will be available, probably via the TNC-X website, in both kit and ready made form. Price and delivery aren't yet finalised, but I expect the kit to be in the $40-50 range, and availability in a few weeks.
 
73, John
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
Sent: 19 January 2013 11:04
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

Are you going to have them on your site for sale as kits or completed TNCs?  I'd like to be in on the first run if you are taking pre-orders.  What is your expected price range?

Ronny
K4RJJ


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:28 AM, John Wiseman <john.wiseman@...> wrote:
 

Kristoff,
 
The photo is a standard TNC-X board, which I modified by supergluing a bit of matrix board with a 26 way header to it. It is complete and functional - the missing components are for the USB or RS232 interfaces that are not needed. It connects to the async port on the PI header. This was the prototype for the PI TNC which should soon be available.
 
73, John G8BPQ
 
 


From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@... [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...] On Behalf Of Kristoff Bonne
Sent: 18 January 2013 23:35
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...

Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] addon board on group photo

 

Hi,

Perhaps a stupid question but can somebody say what is the RPi addon
board on the photo of the group on yahoo?

(it doesn't even seams to be complete)

73
Kristoff - ON1ARF





Re: DXSpider on the pi

n6ws
 

Tim,

Were you able to get DXSpider to run using v1.05 of the instructions?

73, Bill
N6WS


On 02/11/2013 03:29 AM, g3pjd wrote:
 

As I understand it, the contents of spider.new are copied to /spider by this line, and the next line in the procedure removes the directory spider.new.

If I am right, then this little glimmer of understanding is clear progress for me!!

Not sure what a left field bleacher is, but it sounds painful!

73

Tim
G3PJD
--- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@..., Rusty Haddock wrote:
>
> K2DMS wrote:
> >CP -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider
> >
> >maybe should be
> >
> >cp -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider
> >
> >Unless CP is an alias to cp.
>
> I hafta ask -- why aren't you simply creating a symbolic link?
>
> sudo ln -s /home/sysop/spider.new /spider
>
> Not sure how much file space is used by ~sysop/spider.new but
> it's getting duplicated with a 'cp'. A symbolic link is simply
> a "pointer" yet effectively connects /spider to ~sysop/spider.new.
> On the other hand, if you want to keep the spider.new directory
> pristine in case something goes wrong... 'cp' is not a bad thing.
>
> Sorry for jumping in out of the left-field bleachers. :)
>
> -Rusty-
> --
> _____ Rusty Haddock <=> AE5AE
> |\/ o \ o Way out yonder in the
> | ( -< O o Van Alstyne (TX) Metropolitan Area
> |/\__V__/ Math illiteracy affects 7 out of 5 people!
>



Re: DXSpider on the pi

Tim G3PJD
 

As I understand it, the contents of spider.new are copied to /spider by this line, and the next line in the procedure removes the directory spider.new.

If I am right, then this little glimmer of understanding is clear progress for me!!

Not sure what a left field bleacher is, but it sounds painful!

73

Tim
G3PJD

--- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Rusty Haddock wrote:

K2DMS wrote:
>CP -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider
>
>maybe should be
>
>cp -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider
>
>Unless CP is an alias to cp.

I hafta ask -- why aren't you simply creating a symbolic link?

sudo ln -s /home/sysop/spider.new /spider

Not sure how much file space is used by ~sysop/spider.new but
it's getting duplicated with a 'cp'. A symbolic link is simply
a "pointer" yet effectively connects /spider to ~sysop/spider.new.
On the other hand, if you want to keep the spider.new directory
pristine in case something goes wrong... 'cp' is not a bad thing.

Sorry for jumping in out of the left-field bleachers. :)

-Rusty-
--
_____ Rusty Haddock <=> AE5AE
|&#92;/ o &#92; o Way out yonder in the
| ( -< O o Van Alstyne (TX) Metropolitan Area
|/&#92;__V__/ Math illiteracy affects 7 out of 5 people!


Re: DXSpider on the pi

Tim G3PJD
 

CP in caps is my typo in this posting. I typed it correctly when loading the SD.

Note to self: Read through more carefully before hitting 'SEND'!

73

Self

--- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "K2DMS" wrote:

CP -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider

maybe should be

cp -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider

Unless CP is an alias to cp.

--- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "g3pjd" wrote:

Has anybody tried Bill, N6WS' procedure for installing DX Spider on Raspi? I have had two attempts, the second one after re-formatting and re imaging my SD, but both attempts failed at "CP -a /home/sysop/spider.new/ /spider" (my quote marks) with the error message 'cannot overwrite non-directory /spider with directory /home/sysop/spider.new/'

I am running 2012-12-16 Raspbian Wheezy on a 4GB SDHC and a Pi model B.

As I am new to Debian I am somewhat at a loss (English understatement for 'clueless'!).

Any help appreciated

73

Tim
G3PJD


Re: Eben Upton's Book "Raspberry PI User Guide"

Paul M <pmooney22@...>
 

Don't know if this is useful, but not having a Pi/book with me today I can't check it out.

I downloaded the Wordpress .deb from http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/w/ & opened it (using an archive manager) and it contains the standard  3 files. Again open the data.tar.gz archive and under  ./usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/ you'll find setup-mysql.gz

My assumption is that the file will be found at /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/ on the SD and MAY require decompressing.

Feel free to heap scorn on my head if it's not there.

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Re: A differant when running IRLPvCON

John
 

Bret,

I am of the understanding that this is error you will get until such time as Dave C. And the author of IRLPvCON ( www.k6ib.com/irlpvcon/ )get the code working on the Pi. Look on page 22 of the PiRLP manual.

John
W9KXQ
PiRLP Node 7410

--- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "wx7y" wrote:


Hello to the group,

I DO KNOW that the IRLPvCON is fully compatable with the PiIRLP BUT I am
getting a differant error from a configuration problem.

I get the following Error Message in the "irlpvcon" page.

### The permission settings for Apache Server have prevented IRLPvCON
access to required resources.

### CHANGES TO LINUX APACHE ENVIRONMENT ARE REQUIRED.

Anyone know what I need to do to correct this Error in the Apache
Environment file???



Thanks

Bret

WX7Y


Re: A differant when running IRLPvCON

Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

I'd guess you will have a much better chance getting an answer in the PiRLP group. http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/PiRLP

Mick - W7CAT

----- Original Message -----
From: "wx7y"
To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 04:46:23 PM
Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] A differant when running IRLPvCON

>
> Hello to the group,
>
> I DO KNOW that the IRLPvCON is fully compatable with the PiIRLP BUT I am
> getting a differant error from a configuration problem.
>
> I get the following Error Message in the "irlpvcon" page.
>
> ### The permission settings for Apache Server have prevented IRLPvCON
> access to required resources.
>
> ### CHANGES TO LINUX APACHE ENVIRONMENT ARE REQUIRED.
>
> Anyone know what I need to do to correct this Error in the Apache
> Environment file???
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bret
>
> WX7Y


--

Be sure to check out our repeater sites!



A differant when running IRLPvCON

wx7y <bmills1@...>
 

Hello to the group,

I DO KNOW that the IRLPvCON is fully compatable with the PiIRLP BUT I am
getting a differant error from a configuration problem.

I get the following Error Message in the "irlpvcon" page.

### The permission settings for Apache Server have prevented IRLPvCON
access to required resources.

### CHANGES TO LINUX APACHE ENVIRONMENT ARE REQUIRED.

Anyone know what I need to do to correct this Error in the Apache
Environment file???



Thanks

Bret

WX7Y


DXSpider on Raspberry Pi

n6ws
 

All,

The instructions in the DXSpider on a Raspberry Pi required updating for 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian. I have updated the instructions, and they are available in the Files area of Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO.

The new procedures corrects the primary group of user 'sysop' to 'spider' and the associated permissions problems with git.

If anyone can help with the recent changes in perl sha1, I would appreciate the help.

73, Bill
N6WS


New file uploaded to Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO

Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO
group.

File : /DXSpider/Install of DXSpider on Raspberry Pi-v1.05.pdf
Uploaded by : n6ws <n6ws@n6ws.com>
Description : Instructions for installing DXSpider on a RPi v1.05

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO/files/DXSpider/Install%20of%20DXSpider%20on%20Raspberry%20Pi-v1.05.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

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