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Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

 

Yes is beta W3DJS.

Em qui., 2 de jul. de 2020 às 10:29, John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> escreveu:

There is no HamPi v2.0. Did you install the W3DJS beta instead?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 06:10 JOSE VALDIR DE LIMA <joselima275@...> wrote:
Grateful for the great job, I installed HamPi V2 on my GOBOX HAM, updated the WIFFI system and it was great, congratulations to everyone involved in this work, strong 73 from PW8PM, FH99ac, Amazonia Brazil.



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CURSO SUPERIOR EM ANÁLISE E DESENVOLVIMENTO DE SISTEMAS
INSTITUTO FEDERAL DE RONDÔNIA
POLICIAL MILITAR/RO
RADIOAMADOR - PW8PM
MEMBRO PRESIDENTE  ARSATC.ORG 
SÓCIO LABRE-SP
FILIADO A RENER(REDE NACIONAL DE EMERGÊNCIA DE RADIOAMADORES)


Re: A bit of help needed

Trigger X
 

Hello All,

I have managed to get v1.0 installed and running and even an internet connection. All is well with the set-up at the moment. I wanted to make a donation via 'give back' on the desktop but it seems that the page payment process is all via the US. I cannot do this. Is there a link that is not US exclusive. I would like to give back. Just a couple of small donations. Any linkage would be welcome.

73,

Tryg

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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Munson
 

After discovering what I did last night – I’m going to do a clean install again and repeat the process.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:41 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

Oh, and please forget trying to get the TNC attached.  This is all automatic if you have a TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 plugged in.  Again, there is nothing you need to do.  If the new user interface shows the AX.25 service as running, then it is.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:49:58 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

A lot of the confusion is “gone” as it were and I’m finally gotten with the program.  I get the whole access via phone, etc.  I got a clean image burn this evening and some of the issues I was having were mitigated, mostly I think because I followed normal steps as opposed to jumping around.

 

I still have a couple of issues:

 

  1. When booting fresh I have to log into the PI using the password.  It took me till just about 5 minutes ago to reboot and try to access the PiGate without logging into the RPi.  Viola! Another cloud removed.  I was hung up on the RPi having to be “running” in order for the software to be running.  So that was take care of.

 

  1. I have updated my location Lat/Long in decimal coordinates  to my location (match the format in your video 4) and I get zero RMS stations near me.  Yet I know of at least 1 which is 5 miles away.

 

  1. I have created and sent two emails via Telnet – I’ve yet to receive them but I think that WL not the PiGate.  BUT I have noticed the following error when viewing the polling log: wl2ktelnet: WARNING: grid square not specified in config file.  Is that in the PiGate or on WL2K?

 

My next step is to find the web pages I found earlier that described how to attach a TNC to the AX25 and make that available to the PiGate so I can start evaluating/testing RF sending.

 

As I said before, I’m more of an operator than a technician and it takes me a bit to catch up.  But once I catch up and the lightbulb goes off I’m there in full.  I’ve seen so many alternatives to how this can be used in our normal deployment methods.  My only challenge is how to make use of this at a shelter when I only have one reliable antenna available inside the shelter room. My current thought is leave the PiGate in my truck with a 55 Ah battery (to cover the period when the hurricane is blocking a good bit of sunshine) and a solar panel on the dash for when the sun is out to keep the battery going.  Connect that to the truck radio (running off the same battery) and duplexing to my D710.  Needs some more thought but that is where my head is at for the moment.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:10 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

As I said before, there is nothing to do by using the Raspbian Desktop.  There is no software to run, no configurations to be made, nothing.  All administration of the PiGate device is done using the admin web pages, especially the new interface which gives you lots of capabilities.  There is absolutely nothing to be gained by logging in directly.  The OS and the desktop GUI are there only because they come with the Raspbian disto.

 

Any sending of email is done using an external email client that is running on your laptop, tablet, or smart phone.  There is nothing on the GUI to use unless you want to use the rather crappy Claws email client.  There are so many more that will work that are much better.

 

That is all the PiGate is designed to do, send email to a Winlink RMS station.  If you are looking for something else, you're looking in the wrong place.  If you want a Raspberry Pi to use as a computer desktop, you should just use the standard Raspbian download or maybe one of the others some of the other hams have made up, like HamPi.

 

Sorry if I seem blunt.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:37:30 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mark

 

Lots of confusion on my part so please allow for that.

 

I can see (finally found your videos) how you have an all in one.  Not sure this fits my imagination of what I was looking for but I certainly see the utility and usefulness of it.  I’m working how to make this part of my process at a shelter.  Having said that I’m working through a limited understanding of Linux and the Pi in general so I had a checklist of things to accomplish.  That was the back and forth of the terminal.

 

As for the Bluetooth my “plan” was to use the Pi as a computer and not have another method of accessing the Pi than the Pi itself.  I didn’t want wired mouse/keyboard and actually had a Bluetooth set up before flashing your image.  At present I am VNC’d into the PI to work through your software and get a feel for what it is capable of.

 

In the meantime I’m working my way through the videos toward understanding how to get the PIGate on the air.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:58 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

Sorry, I don't support the OS and any problems you may have with it.  Again, you don't need a keyboard and mouse connected to the PiGate to use it.  I probably didn't include it on the OS build because it's unnecessary.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:28:52 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Sorry for the barrage 😊  I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.  I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Munson
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.  I’m assuming that is normal for your image? I’ve never seen that behavior in Linux before.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.  They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.  I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.  Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.  All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs.

 

If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

That makes sense.  I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.  I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.  Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters – so it is still there LOL.  BUT I did find the TNC line and went – hmm bet that would help!

 

So now I’m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up.

 

Slowly but surely I’m going to win this skirmish.

 

Thanks for the response and being there as needed.

 

Don, W4GFQ

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:28 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.  Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.  That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc.

 

Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mat

 

I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a “hat” to the Pi.  It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.  I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.  But my question becomes – now what?

 

I can’t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.  I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don’t know (or can’t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.  I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled.

 

At this point I’m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back.

 

Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I’m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow?

 

As you can see I’m relatively lost.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mat Murdock
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:15 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.  For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).  If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.

I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.

One other item.  You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site: http://www.wvcarc.com/p/tnc-96k-resources.html

Mat


Re: Hampi - what does it do?

 


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 07:27 John D. Hays <john@...> wrote:
Mark

HamPi is Raspberry Pi OS image with about 80 ham related applications. 

Each of those applications has its own documentation.  You may have to do some research on them. 

Go to raspi.radiowaves.ca and read the information there. 


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 07:02 <marksheffield@...> wrote:
I've seen announcements regarding releases but haven't been able to find a user manual about what it is/what it does.  

Is there any?

thanks - Mark/K4LFL


Re: Hampi - what does it do?

John Nicholas
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnpln-aRWrs&list=PL0R9jy9LZw_2Je-1Td9Xb2S8-Vl_bFTGG&index=226

Dave Casler interviews Dave Slotter about Ham Pi!   Best info I’ve seen.

73 de ZEoZUW  John

On Jul 2, 2020, at 8:59 AM, marksheffield@... wrote:

I've seen announcements regarding releases but haven't been able to find a user manual about what it is/what it does.  

Is there any?

thanks - Mark/K4LFL


Re: Hampi - what does it do?

Martin Cooper
 

I think you mean:


Martin.
KD6YAM

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:30 AM John D Hays - K7VE <john@...> wrote:
Mark

HamPi is Raspberry Pi OS image with about 80 ham related applications. 

Each of those applications has its own documentation.  You may have to do some research on them. 

Go to raspi.radiowaves.ca and read the information there. 


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 07:02 <marksheffield@...> wrote:
I've seen announcements regarding releases but haven't been able to find a user manual about what it is/what it does.  

Is there any?

thanks - Mark/K4LFL


Re: Hampi - what does it do?

Kevin K <w1kgk@...>
 

Mark 
Your link is defective....sorry

Kevin

------ Original Message ------
From: "John D Hays - K7VE" <john@...>
Sent: 7/2/2020 8:27:23 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Hampi - what does it do?

Mark

HamPi is Raspberry Pi OS image with about 80 ham related applications. 

Each of those applications has its own documentation.  You may have to do some research on them. 

Go to raspi.radiowaves.ca and read the information there. 


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 07:02 <marksheffield@...> wrote:
I've seen announcements regarding releases but haven't been able to find a user manual about what it is/what it does.  

Is there any?

thanks - Mark/K4LFL


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Poaps
 

Mark

Finally got logged in. 
The TNC baud rate shows 25500 baud. Is it not 9600? I am using the 6 pin din to my V 71 (Kenwood)

I had to use the new interface to add my GPS coordinate. I was trying via regular web 10.10.10.10/admin.

When I poll va7dep-10 it fails. Went to the Packet log.

 
Establishing a connection to VA7DEP-10
 
Thu Jul 2 07:06:31 PDT 2020
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
�@�vU�@�v �@�v�w�v���vp�v �w�vHz�~� ��v x �w�vc 8� Thu Jul 2 07:07:01 PDT 2020
54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
Establishing a connection to VA7DEP-10
 
Thu Jul 2 07:07:03 PDT 2020
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
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54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
Establishing a connection to VA7DEP-10
 
Thu Jul 2 07:07:36 PDT 2020
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54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
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Thu Jul 2 07:08:25 PDT 2020
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
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54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
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Thu Jul 2 07:08:57 PDT 2020
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
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54 bytes in 31 seconds
 
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Thu Jul 2 07:09:30 PDT 2020
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Thu Jul 2 07:10:02 PDT 2020
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Thu Jul 2 07:10:35 PDT 2020
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Thu Jul 2 07:12:38 PDT 2020
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54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
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Thu Jul 2 07:19:36 PDT 2020
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
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54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
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Thu Jul 2 07:22:20 PDT 2020
Timed out, exiting wl2kax25!
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54 bytes in 30 seconds
 
later
 
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:40 PM Mark Griffith via groups.io <mdgriffith2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don,

Oh, and please forget trying to get the TNC attached.  This is all automatic if you have a TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 plugged in.  Again, there is nothing you need to do.  If the new user interface shows the AX.25 service as running, then it is.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:49:58 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


A lot of the confusion is “gone” as it were and I’m finally gotten with the program.  I get the whole access via phone, etc.  I got a clean image burn this evening and some of the issues I was having were mitigated, mostly I think because I followed normal steps as opposed to jumping around.

 

I still have a couple of issues:

 

  1. When booting fresh I have to log into the PI using the password.  It took me till just about 5 minutes ago to reboot and try to access the PiGate without logging into the RPi.  Viola! Another cloud removed.  I was hung up on the RPi having to be “running” in order for the software to be running.  So that was take care of.

 

  1. I have updated my location Lat/Long in decimal coordinates  to my location (match the format in your video 4) and I get zero RMS stations near me.  Yet I know of at least 1 which is 5 miles away.

 

  1. I have created and sent two emails via Telnet – I’ve yet to receive them but I think that WL not the PiGate.  BUT I have noticed the following error when viewing the polling log: wl2ktelnet: WARNING: grid square not specified in config file.  Is that in the PiGate or on WL2K?

 

My next step is to find the web pages I found earlier that described how to attach a TNC to the AX25 and make that available to the PiGate so I can start evaluating/testing RF sending.

 

As I said before, I’m more of an operator than a technician and it takes me a bit to catch up.  But once I catch up and the lightbulb goes off I’m there in full.  I’ve seen so many alternatives to how this can be used in our normal deployment methods.  My only challenge is how to make use of this at a shelter when I only have one reliable antenna available inside the shelter room. My current thought is leave the PiGate in my truck with a 55 Ah battery (to cover the period when the hurricane is blocking a good bit of sunshine) and a solar panel on the dash for when the sun is out to keep the battery going.  Connect that to the truck radio (running off the same battery) and duplexing to my D710.  Needs some more thought but that is where my head is at for the moment.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:10 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

As I said before, there is nothing to do by using the Raspbian Desktop.  There is no software to run, no configurations to be made, nothing.  All administration of the PiGate device is done using the admin web pages, especially the new interface which gives you lots of capabilities.  There is absolutely nothing to be gained by logging in directly.  The OS and the desktop GUI are there only because they come with the Raspbian disto.

 

Any sending of email is done using an external email client that is running on your laptop, tablet, or smart phone.  There is nothing on the GUI to use unless you want to use the rather crappy Claws email client.  There are so many more that will work that are much better.

 

That is all the PiGate is designed to do, send email to a Winlink RMS station.  If you are looking for something else, you're looking in the wrong place.  If you want a Raspberry Pi to use as a computer desktop, you should just use the standard Raspbian download or maybe one of the others some of the other hams have made up, like HamPi.

 

Sorry if I seem blunt.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:37:30 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mark

 

Lots of confusion on my part so please allow for that.

 

I can see (finally found your videos) how you have an all in one.  Not sure this fits my imagination of what I was looking for but I certainly see the utility and usefulness of it.  I’m working how to make this part of my process at a shelter.  Having said that I’m working through a limited understanding of Linux and the Pi in general so I had a checklist of things to accomplish.  That was the back and forth of the terminal.

 

As for the Bluetooth my “plan” was to use the Pi as a computer and not have another method of accessing the Pi than the Pi itself.  I didn’t want wired mouse/keyboard and actually had a Bluetooth set up before flashing your image.  At present I am VNC’d into the PI to work through your software and get a feel for what it is capable of.

 

In the meantime I’m working my way through the videos toward understanding how to get the PIGate on the air.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:58 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

Sorry, I don't support the OS and any problems you may have with it.  Again, you don't need a keyboard and mouse connected to the PiGate to use it.  I probably didn't include it on the OS build because it's unnecessary.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:28:52 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Sorry for the barrage 😊  I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.  I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Munson
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.  I’m assuming that is normal for your image? I’ve never seen that behavior in Linux before.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.  They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.  I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.  Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.  All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs.

 

If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

That makes sense.  I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.  I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.  Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters – so it is still there LOL.  BUT I did find the TNC line and went – hmm bet that would help!

 

So now I’m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up.

 

Slowly but surely I’m going to win this skirmish.

 

Thanks for the response and being there as needed.

 

Don, W4GFQ

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:28 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.  Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.  That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc.

 

Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mat

 

I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a “hat” to the Pi.  It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.  I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.  But my question becomes – now what?

 

I can’t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.  I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don’t know (or can’t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.  I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled.

 

At this point I’m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back.

 

Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I’m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow?

 

As you can see I’m relatively lost.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mat Murdock
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:15 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.  For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).  If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.

I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.

One other item.  You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site: http://www.wvcarc.com/p/tnc-96k-resources.html

Mat


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Distribution v2.0 Released

Bernard f6bvp / ai7bg
 

Downloaded Hampi 1.0 via torrent stream on Ubuntu. Two attempt with dad failed on freshly bought 32 Gb SD cards. After partitioning with flatted and true formatting under Win10 I succeeded burning image with Balena Etcher !
After booting partition was not expanded to whole SD. I did it with raspi-config.
Running RaspBerry Pi 4.
Frim time to time system is freezing.

i must shut down 5V to reboot.

DRAW hat is not recognized despite performing /boot/config.txt settings. With previous image from NorthWeStdigital DRAWS is functioning well.
Bernard, F6BVP /  AI7BG


Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

 

There is no HamPi v2.0. Did you install the W3DJS beta instead?


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 06:10 JOSE VALDIR DE LIMA <joselima275@...> wrote:
Grateful for the great job, I installed HamPi V2 on my GOBOX HAM, updated the WIFFI system and it was great, congratulations to everyone involved in this work, strong 73 from PW8PM, FH99ac, Amazonia Brazil.


Re: Hampi - what does it do?

 

Mark

HamPi is Raspberry Pi OS image with about 80 ham related applications. 

Each of those applications has its own documentation.  You may have to do some research on them. 

Go to raspi.radiowaves.ca and read the information there. 


On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 07:02 <marksheffield@...> wrote:
I've seen announcements regarding releases but haven't been able to find a user manual about what it is/what it does.  

Is there any?

thanks - Mark/K4LFL


Hampi - what does it do?

marksheffield@...
 

I've seen announcements regarding releases but haven't been able to find a user manual about what it is/what it does.  

Is there any?

thanks - Mark/K4LFL


Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

 

Grateful for the great job, I installed HamPi V2 on my GOBOX HAM, updated the WIFFI system and it was great, congratulations to everyone involved in this work, strong 73 from PW8PM, FH99ac, Amazonia Brazil.


Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released

chuck gelm <rpi4ham@...>
 

On 7/1/20 10:59 AM, Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
dd is not available on my current Win10.
The article says that the linux cernal is part of a software that has to be installed, not that Windows is now based on the Linux kernal.
I think you are correct.
The 'linux kernel' is 'available' to be added to Windows-10.
This may be something akin to a 'virtual machine'. :-| ?

Chuck


Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Distribution v2.0 Released

chuck gelm <rpi4ham@...>
 

On 7/1/20 10:49 AM, N5XMT wrote:
.xz is not proprietary.  It was used because it has better compression than gzip.  Unless you want to download an 8g file instead of 3.7g
Got it. Thanks.

 I was in error stating that .xz is proprietary. Sorry.

'tar' supports '.xz' with the '-J' or '--xz' argument.
'unxz' is 'bullt-in' my current o/s.

On my home server, 'balena-etcher' worked (put image on media)...the torrent did not.
On one of my workstations, torrent worked...'balena-etcher' stalled writing to media.

 Next I will check the 'size-of' free space after booting.
I am wondering if the disk image was of a 16GB filesystem or smaller?

3s, Chuck


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mark Griffith
 

Don,

Oh, and please forget trying to get the TNC attached.  This is all automatic if you have a TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 plugged in.  Again, there is nothing you need to do.  If the new user interface shows the AX.25 service as running, then it is.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:49:58 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


A lot of the confusion is “gone” as it were and I’m finally gotten with the program.  I get the whole access via phone, etc.  I got a clean image burn this evening and some of the issues I was having were mitigated, mostly I think because I followed normal steps as opposed to jumping around.

 

I still have a couple of issues:

 

  1. When booting fresh I have to log into the PI using the password.  It took me till just about 5 minutes ago to reboot and try to access the PiGate without logging into the RPi.  Viola! Another cloud removed.  I was hung up on the RPi having to be “running” in order for the software to be running.  So that was take care of.

 

  1. I have updated my location Lat/Long in decimal coordinates  to my location (match the format in your video 4) and I get zero RMS stations near me.  Yet I know of at least 1 which is 5 miles away.

 

  1. I have created and sent two emails via Telnet – I’ve yet to receive them but I think that WL not the PiGate.  BUT I have noticed the following error when viewing the polling log: wl2ktelnet: WARNING: grid square not specified in config file.  Is that in the PiGate or on WL2K?

 

My next step is to find the web pages I found earlier that described how to attach a TNC to the AX25 and make that available to the PiGate so I can start evaluating/testing RF sending.

 

As I said before, I’m more of an operator than a technician and it takes me a bit to catch up.  But once I catch up and the lightbulb goes off I’m there in full.  I’ve seen so many alternatives to how this can be used in our normal deployment methods.  My only challenge is how to make use of this at a shelter when I only have one reliable antenna available inside the shelter room. My current thought is leave the PiGate in my truck with a 55 Ah battery (to cover the period when the hurricane is blocking a good bit of sunshine) and a solar panel on the dash for when the sun is out to keep the battery going.  Connect that to the truck radio (running off the same battery) and duplexing to my D710.  Needs some more thought but that is where my head is at for the moment.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:10 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

As I said before, there is nothing to do by using the Raspbian Desktop.  There is no software to run, no configurations to be made, nothing.  All administration of the PiGate device is done using the admin web pages, especially the new interface which gives you lots of capabilities.  There is absolutely nothing to be gained by logging in directly.  The OS and the desktop GUI are there only because they come with the Raspbian disto.

 

Any sending of email is done using an external email client that is running on your laptop, tablet, or smart phone.  There is nothing on the GUI to use unless you want to use the rather crappy Claws email client.  There are so many more that will work that are much better.

 

That is all the PiGate is designed to do, send email to a Winlink RMS station.  If you are looking for something else, you're looking in the wrong place.  If you want a Raspberry Pi to use as a computer desktop, you should just use the standard Raspbian download or maybe one of the others some of the other hams have made up, like HamPi.

 

Sorry if I seem blunt.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:37:30 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mark

 

Lots of confusion on my part so please allow for that.

 

I can see (finally found your videos) how you have an all in one.  Not sure this fits my imagination of what I was looking for but I certainly see the utility and usefulness of it.  I’m working how to make this part of my process at a shelter.  Having said that I’m working through a limited understanding of Linux and the Pi in general so I had a checklist of things to accomplish.  That was the back and forth of the terminal.

 

As for the Bluetooth my “plan” was to use the Pi as a computer and not have another method of accessing the Pi than the Pi itself.  I didn’t want wired mouse/keyboard and actually had a Bluetooth set up before flashing your image.  At present I am VNC’d into the PI to work through your software and get a feel for what it is capable of.

 

In the meantime I’m working my way through the videos toward understanding how to get the PIGate on the air.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:58 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

Sorry, I don't support the OS and any problems you may have with it.  Again, you don't need a keyboard and mouse connected to the PiGate to use it.  I probably didn't include it on the OS build because it's unnecessary.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:28:52 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Sorry for the barrage 😊  I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.  I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Munson
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.  I’m assuming that is normal for your image? I’ve never seen that behavior in Linux before.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.  They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.  I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.  Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.  All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs.

 

If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

That makes sense.  I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.  I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.  Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters – so it is still there LOL.  BUT I did find the TNC line and went – hmm bet that would help!

 

So now I’m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up.

 

Slowly but surely I’m going to win this skirmish.

 

Thanks for the response and being there as needed.

 

Don, W4GFQ

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:28 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.  Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.  That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc.

 

Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mat

 

I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a “hat” to the Pi.  It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.  I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.  But my question becomes – now what?

 

I can’t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.  I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don’t know (or can’t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.  I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled.

 

At this point I’m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back.

 

Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I’m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow?

 

As you can see I’m relatively lost.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mat Murdock
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:15 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.  For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).  If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.

I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.

One other item.  You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site: http://www.wvcarc.com/p/tnc-96k-resources.html

Mat


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mark Griffith
 

Don,

If your GPS coordinates are correct, they should show up.  If I enter your GPS coordinates (from QRZ.com) on my PiGate, I get 16 different RMS stations, some packet, some ARDOP, some PACTOR.

The warning about the grid square is not critical and will be fixed in the next update.

Send me an email from your PiGate to KD0QYN@....

Mark
KD0QYN



On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:49:58 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


A lot of the confusion is “gone” as it were and I’m finally gotten with the program.  I get the whole access via phone, etc.  I got a clean image burn this evening and some of the issues I was having were mitigated, mostly I think because I followed normal steps as opposed to jumping around.

 

I still have a couple of issues:

 

  1. When booting fresh I have to log into the PI using the password.  It took me till just about 5 minutes ago to reboot and try to access the PiGate without logging into the RPi.  Viola! Another cloud removed.  I was hung up on the RPi having to be “running” in order for the software to be running.  So that was take care of.

 

  1. I have updated my location Lat/Long in decimal coordinates  to my location (match the format in your video 4) and I get zero RMS stations near me.  Yet I know of at least 1 which is 5 miles away.

 

  1. I have created and sent two emails via Telnet – I’ve yet to receive them but I think that WL not the PiGate.  BUT I have noticed the following error when viewing the polling log: wl2ktelnet: WARNING: grid square not specified in config file.  Is that in the PiGate or on WL2K?

 

My next step is to find the web pages I found earlier that described how to attach a TNC to the AX25 and make that available to the PiGate so I can start evaluating/testing RF sending.

 

As I said before, I’m more of an operator than a technician and it takes me a bit to catch up.  But once I catch up and the lightbulb goes off I’m there in full.  I’ve seen so many alternatives to how this can be used in our normal deployment methods.  My only challenge is how to make use of this at a shelter when I only have one reliable antenna available inside the shelter room. My current thought is leave the PiGate in my truck with a 55 Ah battery (to cover the period when the hurricane is blocking a good bit of sunshine) and a solar panel on the dash for when the sun is out to keep the battery going.  Connect that to the truck radio (running off the same battery) and duplexing to my D710.  Needs some more thought but that is where my head is at for the moment.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:10 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

As I said before, there is nothing to do by using the Raspbian Desktop.  There is no software to run, no configurations to be made, nothing.  All administration of the PiGate device is done using the admin web pages, especially the new interface which gives you lots of capabilities.  There is absolutely nothing to be gained by logging in directly.  The OS and the desktop GUI are there only because they come with the Raspbian disto.

 

Any sending of email is done using an external email client that is running on your laptop, tablet, or smart phone.  There is nothing on the GUI to use unless you want to use the rather crappy Claws email client.  There are so many more that will work that are much better.

 

That is all the PiGate is designed to do, send email to a Winlink RMS station.  If you are looking for something else, you're looking in the wrong place.  If you want a Raspberry Pi to use as a computer desktop, you should just use the standard Raspbian download or maybe one of the others some of the other hams have made up, like HamPi.

 

Sorry if I seem blunt.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:37:30 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mark

 

Lots of confusion on my part so please allow for that.

 

I can see (finally found your videos) how you have an all in one.  Not sure this fits my imagination of what I was looking for but I certainly see the utility and usefulness of it.  I’m working how to make this part of my process at a shelter.  Having said that I’m working through a limited understanding of Linux and the Pi in general so I had a checklist of things to accomplish.  That was the back and forth of the terminal.

 

As for the Bluetooth my “plan” was to use the Pi as a computer and not have another method of accessing the Pi than the Pi itself.  I didn’t want wired mouse/keyboard and actually had a Bluetooth set up before flashing your image.  At present I am VNC’d into the PI to work through your software and get a feel for what it is capable of.

 

In the meantime I’m working my way through the videos toward understanding how to get the PIGate on the air.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:58 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

Sorry, I don't support the OS and any problems you may have with it.  Again, you don't need a keyboard and mouse connected to the PiGate to use it.  I probably didn't include it on the OS build because it's unnecessary.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:28:52 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Sorry for the barrage 😊  I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.  I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Munson
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.  I’m assuming that is normal for your image? I’ve never seen that behavior in Linux before.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.  They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.  I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.  Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.  All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs.

 

If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

That makes sense.  I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.  I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.  Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters – so it is still there LOL.  BUT I did find the TNC line and went – hmm bet that would help!

 

So now I’m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up.

 

Slowly but surely I’m going to win this skirmish.

 

Thanks for the response and being there as needed.

 

Don, W4GFQ

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:28 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.  Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.  That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc.

 

Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mat

 

I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a “hat” to the Pi.  It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.  I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.  But my question becomes – now what?

 

I can’t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.  I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don’t know (or can’t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.  I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled.

 

At this point I’m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back.

 

Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I’m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow?

 

As you can see I’m relatively lost.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mat Murdock
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:15 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.  For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).  If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.

I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.

One other item.  You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site: http://www.wvcarc.com/p/tnc-96k-resources.html

Mat


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mark Griffith
 

Don,

As I mentioned before, there is a log file at /var/tmp/gps.log that will help diagnose the issue.  Please post that so I can help.  It doesn't matter if your GPS is flashing or not, it matters if the software can read it.

If your GPS won't work, you can always enter your GPS coordinates manually.  They don't need to change unless you move the PiGate many miles.  The only reason I added GPS support was to give users an easy way to set the time when there is no Internet connection.  The GPS coordinates were an easy add to that.  Of course, you can also enter the time manually by just looking at your watch and plugging it in.

QRZ shows your coordinates as 49.186667 and -122.960000.  In the Vancouver area there are at least 10 different packet RMS stations within a few miles.  The list the PiGate will generate is much longer, probably 50 or 60 that are within 1 degree less and more in lat and lon to your location.

So if you manually entered your date/time and the GPS coordinates, you should get a nice long list of RMS stations to try.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 9:29:19 PM CDT, Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:


Mark

GPS even though flashing USB GPS does not pull local Pat Winlink Gateways. I see the other Don mentioning VNC and I can't even turn that on as it's blocked. For some reason GPS data that GPS/GLONASS Ublocx 7 is not being imported into pulling Winlink Gateway as mentioned.

Trying to log in via SSH and find out why.

Tomorrow new SD cards show up. I'll start fresh.

73

Don va7dgp
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:09 PM Mark Griffith via groups.io <mdgriffith2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Don,

As I said before, there is nothing to do by using the Raspbian Desktop.  There is no software to run, no configurations to be made, nothing.  All administration of the PiGate device is done using the admin web pages, especially the new interface which gives you lots of capabilities.  There is absolutely nothing to be gained by logging in directly.  The OS and the desktop GUI are there only because they come with the Raspbian disto.

Any sending of email is done using an external email client that is running on your laptop, tablet, or smart phone.  There is nothing on the GUI to use unless you want to use the rather crappy Claws email client.  There are so many more that will work that are much better.

That is all the PiGate is designed to do, send email to a Winlink RMS station.  If you are looking for something else, you're looking in the wrong place.  If you want a Raspberry Pi to use as a computer desktop, you should just use the standard Raspbian download or maybe one of the others some of the other hams have made up, like HamPi.

Sorry if I seem blunt.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:37:30 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:


Mark

 

Lots of confusion on my part so please allow for that.

 

I can see (finally found your videos) how you have an all in one.  Not sure this fits my imagination of what I was looking for but I certainly see the utility and usefulness of it.  I’m working how to make this part of my process at a shelter.  Having said that I’m working through a limited understanding of Linux and the Pi in general so I had a checklist of things to accomplish.  That was the back and forth of the terminal.

 

As for the Bluetooth my “plan” was to use the Pi as a computer and not have another method of accessing the Pi than the Pi itself.  I didn’t want wired mouse/keyboard and actually had a Bluetooth set up before flashing your image.  At present I am VNC’d into the PI to work through your software and get a feel for what it is capable of.

 

In the meantime I’m working my way through the videos toward understanding how to get the PIGate on the air.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:58 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

Sorry, I don't support the OS and any problems you may have with it.  Again, you don't need a keyboard and mouse connected to the PiGate to use it.  I probably didn't include it on the OS build because it's unnecessary.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:28:52 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Sorry for the barrage 😊  I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.  I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Munson
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.  I’m assuming that is normal for your image? I’ve never seen that behavior in Linux before.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.  They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.  I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.  Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.  All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs.

 

If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

That makes sense.  I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.  I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.  Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters – so it is still there LOL.  BUT I did find the TNC line and went – hmm bet that would help!

 

So now I’m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up.

 

Slowly but surely I’m going to win this skirmish.

 

Thanks for the response and being there as needed.

 

Don, W4GFQ

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:28 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Don,

 

The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.  Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.  That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc.

 

Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC.

 

Mark

KD0QYN

 

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:

 

 

Mat

 

I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a “hat” to the Pi.  It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.  I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.  But my question becomes – now what?

 

I can’t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.  I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don’t know (or can’t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.  I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled.

 

At this point I’m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back.

 

Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I’m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow?

 

As you can see I’m relatively lost.

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mat Murdock
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:15 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.  For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).  If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.

I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.

One other item.  You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site: http://www.wvcarc.com/p/tnc-96k-resources.html

Mat


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Don Munson
 

I got it connected 😊

 

I love GOOGLE!

 

Took me a bit to get through the kissattach until I realized I need to sudo and it went right in.  Brief test shows the red transmit LED blinking as it is trying to send an email.  Next step is to get on the air and test it. 

 

“Almost” there!

 

Don, W4GFQ

 

From: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io <RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mat Murdock
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:21 PM
To: RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup

 

I will need to check my notes, but there not very many steps to take in order to use your TNC to connect to a node and relay a message.  All of the steps were through the GUI as well.  Nothing was done through the CLI.

OH, found them.


Passwords
 
Wireless
SSID: PiGate
PW: raspberry
 
PI Login
UN: pi
PW: PiGate12
 
Admin Interface
http://10.10.10.10/admin.php
PW: PassWord
 
User Email Interface
http://10.10.10.10/email.php

Setup Stuff
Login to Admin
Click Enter New Interface
Settings
WL2K Callsign
WL2K Password
Temp Unit
 
RMS Stations
Custom RMS
K2WVC-10
1450500 (Kind of a weird format.  Some discription of the proper format would be nice)
(BTW if I recall a long / lat is required here which is a bit of a pain if you don't know where you are.)
Select Packet
 
Click Home
Polling Station
 
Hook Up Radio
Click Poll

Take nap.


Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup

Mat Murdock
 

I will need to check my notes, but there not very many steps to take in order to use your TNC to connect to a node and relay a message.  All of the steps were through the GUI as well.  Nothing was done through the CLI.

OH, found them.

Passwords

Wireless
SSID: PiGate
PW: raspberry

PI Login
UN: pi
PW: PiGate12

Admin Interface
http://10.10.10.10/admin.php
PW: PassWord

User Email Interface
http://10.10.10.10/email.php

Setup Stuff
Login to Admin Click Enter New Interface Settings WL2K Callsign WL2K Password Temp Unit RMS Stations Custom RMS K2WVC-10 1450500 (Kind of a weird format. Some discription of the proper format would be nice) (BTW if I recall a long / lat is required here which is a bit of a pain if you don't know where you are.) Select Packet Click Home Polling Station Hook Up Radio Click Poll

Take nap.

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