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New RaDAR Zoom Discussion with Eddie ZS6BNE Oct 30th 1800 UTC

Greg Lane
 

Eddie will join the Zoom to discuss the "New RaDAR" that begins with the November 6th RaDAR Challenge. The time is 1800 UTC, 2 pm EDT, 1 pm CDT, and 8 pm for Eddie in South Africa. Please review the draft rules at https://zs6bne.wordpress.com/2021/10/11/the-new-radar/  Note, RaDAR is Rapid Deployment Amateur Radio.

Greg N4KGL will be hosting the Zoom session. You are welcome to email any questions to me at lanekg@...

Click on the link to join the Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84491769038?pwd=bERDMzJ6K0p1ckxXZW1nR3dZS2t4QT09

Meeting ID: 844 9176 9038
Passcode: 146.520

73,

Greg N4KGL


Why RaDAR?

Greg Lane
 

You will have more options in RaDAR for the upcoming Nov 6th RaDAR Challenge according to the new draft rules. Note there are new categories and online logging and evaluation. Eddie ZS6BNE is in the process of finalizing the rules and his online web pages. So standby for updates. The link below has a slide show entitled Why RaDAR? It includes some of the new RaDAR ideas coming.

https://www.n4kgl.info/2021/10/radar-developments.html

Thanks,

Greg N4KGL


Maidenhead 10 character locator conversion

Mark Wickens
 

Good morning all

I've written an online coordinate converter which is useful for converting to/from Maidenhead 10 character locators, as well as lots of other formats.

https://bit.ly/adifproc - use the Coord Converter button.

Regards, Mark.


Re: The new RaDAR

N5VMO Pat
 

Eddie .... I really like the New rules for RaDAR =)    That way we have a longer window of making contact while deployed =)

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73's Pat  N5VMO



Re: The new RaDAR

John VA3KOT
 

I generally like the new rules - especially the camping category. I go camping several times each summer and setup a station for a few days that is not easily moved.

Thank you also, Eddie, for acknowledging that sometimes it is expedient to make more than 5 contacts. For example, working a POTA pile-up!

I am not so sure about the logging rules though. I camp in Northern Ontario where cell service is often weak or intermittent. I may not have access to reliable internet for several days. I don't take a computer and usually use pen and paper logging and enter my results online when I get home at the end of a trip.

But, as you say, it's not a contest. If I enjoy playing radio then I'm not going to worry about the scoring.

I guess I'll be a hunter for the next few months. Parks and trails either close or become very difficult to get through in winter. Perhaps you could introduce a snow depth adjustment for the required moving distances hi hi.

John VA3KOT 
EN94MO

On Mon., Oct. 11, 2021, 01:06 Eddie Leighton, <edleighton@...> wrote:
Hi guys,

Please see https://zs6bne.wordpress.com/2021/10/11/the-new-radar/

73 de Eddie ZS6BNE


The new RaDAR

Eddie Leighton
 

Hi guys,

Please see https://zs6bne.wordpress.com/2021/10/11/the-new-radar/

73 de Eddie ZS6BNE


Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Eddie Leighton
 

Hi Jacob,

No harm in your suggestions and thank you for them. I'm trying to find ways to get the general ham population excited about RaDAR. Certainly you guys in the USA have embraced the concept in its entirety.

I felt maybe the challenge was too long. Here in ZS the one hour sprints are becoming very popular and take place late afternoons mostly.

OK, I will take your suggestion to heart when writing the rules for years to come, a 24 hour challenge, a four hour challenge and the RaDAR sport , sprint. Three times a year. The RaDAR challenge having the usual methods of transport but the sport challenge, more a physical one .

Stay safe,

73 de Eddie ZS6BNE

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 4:40 PM Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG ) <jmlredtail@...> wrote:
Hm,

My only concern is that if RaDAR was only 2 hours (1400-1600) and based on local time that syncing up would'nt be as easy due to varying schedules at times. Also, the 24 hour aspect allows for more ways to do the challenge. Like backpacking for instance.

What would you think about two types of RaDAR. A short, few hours, deployment contest, and a 24 hour contest?

Just my thoughts

Jacob Lindsey
KN4YAV
73

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 08:20 Eddie Leighton <edleighton@...> wrote:
Hi guys,

I made a few notes on my Blog yesterday, the way I see RaDAR moving forward. Please see https://zs6bne.wordpress.com/2021/09/28/radar-a-new-radio-sport/

Comments are most welcome.

Kind regards and 73's

Eddie ZS6BNE

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 1:07 PM Mark Wickens <mark@...> wrote:
Morning 

I hope to be out on November 7th, as 6th is the SOTA Transatlantic QSO party - admittedly good if you want quick contacts and have the SOTAWatch app but I would like to try and keep things separate.
I am planning a linear walk with my normal SOTA kit, probably the FT-817 with 30w amp and the Super Antenna MP1 this time maybe rather than the normal SOTABeams Band Hopper IV.
Might be out later in the afternoon to take in the possibility of transatlantic contacts, so much will depend on the weather however.

Regards, Mark.

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 11:37, Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG ) <jmlredtail@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I will be taking part in RaDAR this coming November. Operating out of East Tennessee, i will be backpacking kitted out for an emcomm situation. Ill be operating SSB 40m and 20m. Dipole antenna and the Tx500.

I was wanting to get a take on how many others will be operating this next go around, your mode of travel, and operating plans.

Thanks all

73s



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Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Thomas Robinson
 

I see the Ukranian DX contest finishes at 12:00UTC on Sunday.  So Sunday is the better day for me to do RaDAR :-)


Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Thomas Robinson
 

Well I will give it a go.  Probably with the FT857D at 20W plus biggish, non-resonant vertical whip and autotuner.  I will be /PM on the salt marsh.

Things I'm quite happy with -
      The time - here it is 14:00 UTC to 16:00UTC, maybe OK for QSOs with N. America and Africa though an hour later would be better.
      Non use of motorised vehicles, though it might get a bit iffy if there is inclement weather.

Things I'm not too happy with
     The date.  I know it has always been then, but it is the weekend of the Ukranian DX contest.  Lets hope  17m is open.
    The new scheme seems to point more towards pre-arranged, relatively close QSOs rather than search and pounce or calling CQ

Any way, hope to give it a try.

Cheers All

Tom G0SBW


Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG )
 

Ok cool man! Hope to hear you out there

73s


Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG )
 

Hm,

My only concern is that if RaDAR was only 2 hours (1400-1600) and based on local time that syncing up would'nt be as easy due to varying schedules at times. Also, the 24 hour aspect allows for more ways to do the challenge. Like backpacking for instance.

What would you think about two types of RaDAR. A short, few hours, deployment contest, and a 24 hour contest?

Just my thoughts

Jacob Lindsey
KN4YAV
73


On Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 08:20 Eddie Leighton <edleighton@...> wrote:
Hi guys,

I made a few notes on my Blog yesterday, the way I see RaDAR moving forward. Please see https://zs6bne.wordpress.com/2021/09/28/radar-a-new-radio-sport/

Comments are most welcome.

Kind regards and 73's

Eddie ZS6BNE

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 1:07 PM Mark Wickens <mark@...> wrote:
Morning 

I hope to be out on November 7th, as 6th is the SOTA Transatlantic QSO party - admittedly good if you want quick contacts and have the SOTAWatch app but I would like to try and keep things separate.
I am planning a linear walk with my normal SOTA kit, probably the FT-817 with 30w amp and the Super Antenna MP1 this time maybe rather than the normal SOTABeams Band Hopper IV.
Might be out later in the afternoon to take in the possibility of transatlantic contacts, so much will depend on the weather however.

Regards, Mark.

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 11:37, Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG ) <jmlredtail@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I will be taking part in RaDAR this coming November. Operating out of East Tennessee, i will be backpacking kitted out for an emcomm situation. Ill be operating SSB 40m and 20m. Dipole antenna and the Tx500.

I was wanting to get a take on how many others will be operating this next go around, your mode of travel, and operating plans.

Thanks all

73s



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Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Eddie Leighton
 

Hi guys,

I made a few notes on my Blog yesterday, the way I see RaDAR moving forward. Please see https://zs6bne.wordpress.com/2021/09/28/radar-a-new-radio-sport/

Comments are most welcome.

Kind regards and 73's

Eddie ZS6BNE

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 1:07 PM Mark Wickens <mark@...> wrote:
Morning 

I hope to be out on November 7th, as 6th is the SOTA Transatlantic QSO party - admittedly good if you want quick contacts and have the SOTAWatch app but I would like to try and keep things separate.
I am planning a linear walk with my normal SOTA kit, probably the FT-817 with 30w amp and the Super Antenna MP1 this time maybe rather than the normal SOTABeams Band Hopper IV.
Might be out later in the afternoon to take in the possibility of transatlantic contacts, so much will depend on the weather however.

Regards, Mark.

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 11:37, Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG ) <jmlredtail@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I will be taking part in RaDAR this coming November. Operating out of East Tennessee, i will be backpacking kitted out for an emcomm situation. Ill be operating SSB 40m and 20m. Dipole antenna and the Tx500.

I was wanting to get a take on how many others will be operating this next go around, your mode of travel, and operating plans.

Thanks all

73s



--


Re: RaDAR operations November 6-7

Mark Wickens
 

Morning 

I hope to be out on November 7th, as 6th is the SOTA Transatlantic QSO party - admittedly good if you want quick contacts and have the SOTAWatch app but I would like to try and keep things separate.
I am planning a linear walk with my normal SOTA kit, probably the FT-817 with 30w amp and the Super Antenna MP1 this time maybe rather than the normal SOTABeams Band Hopper IV.
Might be out later in the afternoon to take in the possibility of transatlantic contacts, so much will depend on the weather however.

Regards, Mark.

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 11:37, Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG ) <jmlredtail@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I will be taking part in RaDAR this coming November. Operating out of East Tennessee, i will be backpacking kitted out for an emcomm situation. Ill be operating SSB 40m and 20m. Dipole antenna and the Tx500.

I was wanting to get a take on how many others will be operating this next go around, your mode of travel, and operating plans.

Thanks all

73s




RaDAR operations November 6-7

Jacob Lindsey ( KN4YAV ) and Kayla Lindsey ( KO4DEG )
 

Hello everyone,

I will be taking part in RaDAR this coming November. Operating out of East Tennessee, i will be backpacking kitted out for an emcomm situation. Ill be operating SSB 40m and 20m. Dipole antenna and the Tx500.

I was wanting to get a take on how many others will be operating this next go around, your mode of travel, and operating plans.

Thanks all

73s


**CORRECTED** Atlanta Radio Club FT8 Presentation - August 5

Rob Osattin
 

The name of the speaker was wrong in the previous email. John Kludt presented to the ARC in June.

The Atlanta Radio Club is pleased to announce that our August speaker is Frank O’Donnell, K6FOD. The title of his talk is “Adventures in FT8 and FT4”Unlike voice, you need a computer hooked up to your radio to use the digital modes, including FT8.  But it’s a fairly straightforward USB connection that the ARC’s July speaker, Bob Wilson, N6TV, talked about last month.
The presentation is geared to hams who are unfamiliar with FT8 as well as hams who have used it before. Frank will tell us what FT8 and FT4 are, discuss the advantages and disadvantages of FT8 and FT4, the software and hardware needed to use them and the operating procedures and protocols used on the air. A Q&A will follow the presentation.

There’s a popular misconception in the ham community that FT8 can only be used by Generals and Extras because it’s primarily an HF mode.  The operative word here is “primarily”.  Technicians can use FT8  and FT4 on VHF and UHF and its use there is on the rise. 

This talk promises to be informative for hams with all license levels and degrees of experience. ARC membership is not a requirement for attendance.  Everyone is invited to join our Zoom.

The meeting starts at 7:00 PM on Thursday, August 5. We’re going to have our yearly club election at that meeting and the presentation will follow. There is only one slate of officers running, as of today, so the vote should be quick.


If that doesn’t work, please go to http://zoom.us and click on JOIN at the top of the page. When prompted, uses these credentials:

Meeting ID: 426 375 5765
Passcode: 791957

If you cannot attend the zoom Thursday night, you’ll be able to watch a recording of the Zoom on YouTube. Just search for “Atlanta Radio Club” on YouTube. Videos take about 2-3 days to be posted to YouTube after each meeting.

Details are on our webpage: www.AtlantaRadioClub.org

See you Thursday.

Rob Osattin, KI4UTY
Program Director | Atlanta Radio Club


p.s.  Here’s a blurb on the talk from when Frank spoke to the Pasadena, California Radio Club.

In recent years the FT8 digital mode has been taking the ham world by storm, becoming the most popular mode on the air according to statistics from the ClubLog.org website. If you’ve been thinking of giving FT8 a try but are wondering where to start, ARC’s August 5 online presentation by Frank O’Donnell K6FOD is one you won’t want to miss.
After earning his ham license just three years ago, within nine months Frank earned the ARRL's DXCC award for verifying contacts with 100 countries — all on FT8. In 2019, he received the Southern California DX Club’s Clipperton Award for newcomer of the year. As of now he has logged 147 countries on FT8.
Topics Frank will cover in his talk include an overview of how FT8 works, setup for Windows, Mac, and Linux systems, a basic FT8 QSO, “fox and hound” mode for DXpeditions, and the new FT4 variant for contesting.
We will take Q&A after the presentation.
Frank took up ham radio after retiring from a 32-year career in public affairs at NASA’s  Jet Propulsion Laboratory. While at JPL he led the press office for more than a decade, directing newsrooms for missions including Galileo to Jupiter, Cassini to Saturn, the Mars Pathfinder lander and Sojourner rover, the Spitzer Space Telescope, and numerous Earth science missions. In addition to HF DXing, this past winter he operated using digital modes on the new 630-meter band. He also participates in the ARRL’s twice-yearly Frequency Measurement Tests, determining frequencies of signals received from thousands of miles away to within as little as a couple of hundredths of a Hertz. He and his family have lived in South Pasadena, California for more than 20 years..


Atlanta Radio Club FT8 Presentation - August 5

Rob Osattin
 

The Atlanta Radio Club is pleased to announce that Dr. John Kludt, K7SYS (formerly K4SQC), will be our June speaker. The title of his talk is “ARISS Update and Into the Future”. We’ll learn about the amateur radio setup on the International Spac 

Unlike voice, you need a computer hooked up to your radio to use the digital modes, including FT8.  But it’s a fairly straightforward USB connection that the ARC’s July speaker, Bob Wilson, N6TV, talked about last month.

The presentation is geared to hams who are unfamiliar with FT8 as well as hams who have used it before. Frank will tell us what FT8 and FT4 are, discuss the advantages and disadvantages of FT8 and FT4, the software and hardware needed to use them and the operating procedures and protocols used on the air. A Q&A will follow the presentation.

There’s a popular misconception in the ham community that FT8 can only be used by Generals and Extras because it’s primarily an HF mode.  The operative word here is “primarily”.  Technicians can use FT8  and FT4 on VHF and UHF and its use there is on the rise. 

This talk promises to be informative for hams with all license levels and degrees of experience. ARC membership is not a requirement for attendance.  Everyone is invited to join our Zoom.

The meeting starts at 7:00 PM on Thursday, August 5. We’re going to have our yearly club election at that meeting and the presentation will follow. There is only one slate of officers running, as of today, so the vote should be quick.


If that doesn’t work, please go to http://zoom.us and click on JOIN at the top of the page. When prompted, uses these credentials:

Meeting ID: 426 375 5765
Passcode: 791957

If you cannot attend the zoom Thursday night, you’ll be able to watch a recording of the Zoom on YouTube. Just search for “Atlanta Radio Club” on YouTube. Videos take about 2-3 days to be posted to YouTube after each meeting.

Details are on our webpage: www.AtlantaRadioClub.org

See you Thursday.

Rob Osattin, KI4UTY
Program Director | Atlanta Radio Club


p.s.  Here’s a blurb on the talk from when Frank spoke to the Pasadena, California Radio Club.

In recent years the FT8 digital mode has been taking the ham world by storm, becoming the most popular mode on the air according to statistics from the ClubLog.org website. If you’ve been thinking of giving FT8 a try but are wondering where to start, ARC’s August 5 online presentation by Frank O’Donnell K6FOD is one you won’t want to miss.
After earning his ham license just three years ago, within nine months Frank earned the ARRL's DXCC award for verifying contacts with 100 countries — all on FT8. In 2019, he received the Southern California DX Club’s Clipperton Award for newcomer of the year. As of now he has logged 147 countries on FT8.
Topics Frank will cover in his talk include an overview of how FT8 works, setup for Windows, Mac, and Linux systems, a basic FT8 QSO, “fox and hound” mode for DXpeditions, and the new FT4 variant for contesting.
We will take Q&A after the presentation.
Frank took up ham radio after retiring from a 32-year career in public affairs at NASA’s  Jet Propulsion Laboratory. While at JPL he led the press office for more than a decade, directing newsrooms for missions including Galileo to Jupiter, Cassini to Saturn, the Mars Pathfinder lander and Sojourner rover, the Spitzer Space Telescope, and numerous Earth science missions. In addition to HF DXing, this past winter he operated using digital modes on the new 630-meter band. He also participates in the ARRL’s twice-yearly Frequency Measurement Tests, determining frequencies of signals received from thousands of miles away to within as little as a couple of hundredths of a Hertz. He and his family have lived in South Pasadena, California for more than 20 years..


Re: Take the RaDAR Challenge on Saturday July 10th 2021

John VA3KOT
 

I also do POTA activations. My experience over several activations has been that I get a pile-up as soon as I am spotted on RBN. The hunters maybe wouldn't be too pleased if I went QRT after 5 QSOs to move my station to another QTH. How do other POTA/RaDAR ops handle this? Is it legitimate, under RaDAR rules, to carry on dealing with the POTA pileup but maybe only count the first 5 QSOs for RaDAR purposes before relocating?

John VA3KOT

On 2021-07-07 9:19 a.m., Greg Lane wrote:
Very interesting on NVIS and WSPR Eddie. I'll check out the logging. I'll be in Missouri at Stockton State park. That will be different, likely I'll be on 17 and 20 meters. Being Parks On The Air could draw some contacts.

You know maybe we could do something in parallel with the Portable Operations Challenge Sept 4 & 5th. Their scoring would be interesting with RaDAR.  Who knows?

Thanks,

Greg


Re: Take the RaDAR Challenge on Saturday July 10th 2021

Greg Lane
 

Very interesting on NVIS and WSPR Eddie. I'll check out the logging. I'll be in Missouri at Stockton State park. That will be different, likely I'll be on 17 and 20 meters. Being Parks On The Air could draw some contacts.

You know maybe we could do something in parallel with the Portable Operations Challenge Sept 4 & 5th. Their scoring would be interesting with RaDAR.  Who knows?

Thanks, 

Greg



On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 2:05 PM Eddie Leighton <edleighton@...> wrote:
Thanks for the message Greg.

Getting ready here in ZS too. Using the monitoring station idea agai which proved very helpful in April.

RaDAR_MonitorStationFrequencies.png

Also in line with the RaDAR Sport idea I spoke about in my QSO Today presentation I have built a simple online community based logbook where if all use it correctly then the RaDAR Challenge progress can be seen in real time. I have also been experimenting with WSPR for NVIS predictions. I have a WSPR TX and WSPR RX 29km apart. If the RX hears my TX I KNOW NVIS conditions are present. Band conditions are very up and down lately but I'm going out and many other CW guys with QRP rigs, mostly QCX Mini's.

For interests sake the URL is http://www.radarops.co.za/zsportal/ 

Have fun and 73 de Eddie ZS6BNE


Re: Take the RaDAR Challenge on Saturday July 10th 2021

Eddie Leighton
 

Thanks for the message Greg.

Getting ready here in ZS too. Using the monitoring station idea agai which proved very helpful in April.

RaDAR_MonitorStationFrequencies.png

Also in line with the RaDAR Sport idea I spoke about in my QSO Today presentation I have built a simple online community based logbook where if all use it correctly then the RaDAR Challenge progress can be seen in real time. I have also been experimenting with WSPR for NVIS predictions. I have a WSPR TX and WSPR RX 29km apart. If the RX hears my TX I KNOW NVIS conditions are present. Band conditions are very up and down lately but I'm going out and many other CW guys with QRP rigs, mostly QCX Mini's.

For interests sake the URL is http://www.radarops.co.za/zsportal/ 

Have fun and 73 de Eddie ZS6BNE


Take the RaDAR Challenge on Saturday July 10th 2021

Greg Lane
 

The next RaDAR Challenge is July 10th, 2021 UTC. RaDAR is Rapid Deployment Amateur Radio. Movement is encouraged between deployments via foot or various conveyances. Operate in a four-hour window of your choosing. No specific venue is required although parks are a natural choice. You may operate any band and mode except repeaters. Satellite and digital contacts are encouraged with bonus points. Remember it is five contacts and move. Get into the flow zone. Support from home stations is welcomed. Detailed rules are available at http://radarops.co.za/index.php/radar-rules/

Good Luck and stay safe,

Greg N4KGL

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