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Re: FT8 and FT4 sub bands?

Peter N5UWY
 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:01 AM Rich N1IXF <n1ixf@...> wrote:

After the WAE contest this past weekend, I realized that I don't have a clue where the FT8 and FT4 operators congregate.

Are there preferred frequencies / sub-bands for these guys? For example, I thought they centered their 40M activity around 7074 but found there were also conflicts around 7048/7049. Felt like I stumbled into the SSTV frequency.

I would like to create an operating aid so I know where this mode has its watering holes on each of the contest bands. I thought such a chart would exist but I couldn't find one with a quick search.
I thought I'd just pull up K1JT's docs and point you to them ... but
they are not listed in the docs. I'm not near my radio PC else I'd
have screen-capped it (or dug up the file that holds same).

Took more googlage than I expected, but this looks right:

https://www.qsl.net/sv1grb/psk31.htm

This would be zero on the waterfall and most setups are about 3000 Hz
wide, so you could see traces as much as 3 kHz above these numbers. I
think I have that right.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

FT8 and FT4 sub bands?

Rich N1IXF
 

After the WAE contest this past weekend, I realized that I don't have a clue where the FT8 and FT4 operators congregate.

Are there preferred frequencies / sub-bands for these guys?  For example, I thought they centered their 40M activity around 7074 but found there were also conflicts around 7048/7049.  Felt like I stumbled into the SSTV frequency.

I would like to create an operating aid so I know where this mode has its watering holes on each of the contest bands.  I thought such a chart would exist but I couldn't find one with a quick search. 

Thanks,
Rich N1IXF

Re: Mod 15questions

Tim Richardson, WS4V
 

I would suggest the Greenkeys mailing list that is hosted on qth.net There are a lot of folks on there with vintage TTY equipment and parts as well as a lot of knowledge about the machines.

http://mailman.qth.net

73,

Tim WS4V

On 11/13/2019 3:25 PM, Gary Schulz wrote:
Just joined the group and was wondering if this is the right place to post questions regarding the old stuff (i.e. model 15's etc...).

I have a 15 with an original table that has all the sockets that are supposed to be used to interface the printer with a rectifier and line control unit.  Problem is I have no idea where to source any of those old and long obsolete power connectors present on the table.  There are various permutations of 2 pin twist locks and 2 and 4 pin DC connectors that I can't find any trace of.  I wanted to make up a cable set that matches these things but don't know where to look.

Any ideas on where to get obsolete connectors like those?  I am going to be linking the old TTY setup to a Dovetron TU and an R-390A at some point...

Is this the right forum or is there a better place to ask these sorts of questions.

Thanks

Gary Schulz WB9YIR


Mod 15questions

Gary Schulz
 

Just joined the group and was wondering if this is the right place to post questions regarding the old stuff (i.e. model 15's etc...).

I have a 15 with an original table that has all the sockets that are supposed to be used to interface the printer with a rectifier and line control unit.  Problem is I have no idea where to source any of those old and long obsolete power connectors present on the table.  There are various permutations of 2 pin twist locks and 2 and 4 pin DC connectors that I can't find any trace of.  I wanted to make up a cable set that matches these things but don't know where to look.

Any ideas on where to get obsolete connectors like those?  I am going to be linking the old TTY setup to a Dovetron TU and an R-390A at some point...

Is this the right forum or is there a better place to ask these sorts of questions.

Thanks

Gary Schulz WB9YIR

NS RTTY this Thursday

Ken K6MR
 

Greetings Diddlers:

Very strange conditions on the west coast last week, but everyone else was doing well.  K4DXV has been having a tough year, but things are improving and he’s back in the shack. Welcome back Steve.  WQ5L was also back in the mix.  And looks like most of us remembered the time change.  So if you tried last week but didn’t hear anyone, write a yellow sticky to remind yourself that we’re all there one hour earlier in local time.

 

Looks like the big kahuna for the upcoming weekend is Phone SS, and pretty much nothing digital.  So I guess you can take the weekend off or dig out that microphone and give it a go!

 

So for your weekly digital fix, please join us Thursday evening. Here are the details:.

Friday,  15 Nov 2019, 0145Z - 0215Z (Thursday, 14 Nov 2019 in NA)
-- 1745 - 1815 PST
-- 2045 - 2115 EST
-- (others in-between those two)
-- 160: 1805 and up (Last two minutes seem to be popular…)
-- 80/40/20/15 +84 kHz up from the band edge   <--NOTE
-- Same band dupes ok after 1 intervening Q.
-- 1 kHz QSY rule, otherwise standard Sprint rules
-- Mults per band.
-- 100W power limit

Please visit http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html for complete rules and links to other info. If you find any problems with the web pages, please let me know so we can get them fixed.

If you would like to receive all the latest info about NS as well as a have a place for comments and questions, sign up for the NS mailing list:  https://groups.io/g/nccc-blue

Contestonlinescore.com has a slot set up for us if you’d like to make sure your logger is talking to the world.  Select NCCC NA RTTY Sprint.

Report scores to 3830scores.com, and join us at 0300Z on 3610 kHz (+/- a few for ongoing groups) for comments and questions (and dinner menus).

Diddle diddle,

Ken K6MR

 

SARTG WW RTTY 2019 Result published

sm7bhm@...
 

Hello,
 
The result for SARTG WW RTTY Contest 2019 is ready, pse find it on our page www.sartg.com
Awards will be ready soon, stay tuned.
 
73 Ewe SM7BHM
SARTG Contest Team

Comments needed on FCC 16-239

Ron K0IDT
 

The FCC has filed a new Public Notice concerning WT Docket 16-239 https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1101131173138/DA-19-1130A1.pdf

For those of you that don't know, or may have forgotten, 16-239 is the result of ARRL filing RM-11708, removing the 300 baud rate restriction. The FCC came up with 16-239, it removes the baud limit and allows wideband (unlimited) digital
signals anywhere in the HF RTTY/Data sub bands. Despite claims that wideband digital will not overrun the narrow band users, RTTY, CW, JT/FT, etc., there is no provision to keep the wider signals in check. The new FCC Public Notice is
seeking comments on a Declaratory Ruling on Part 97.113(a)(4) and enactment of RM-11831 provisions for transmission transparency, i.e, all amateur digital  transmissions must be openly decodable over the air by anyone hearing them.

You may ignore this next part if you wish, it contains the Winlink word. ARSFI (Amateur Radio Safety Foundation Inc) / Winlink decided RM-11831, and this latest FCC notice were all about them. The beginnings of the push for the baud limit removal go back 15 years or so to RM-11306. RM-11306 was the disastrous ARRL petition that would have allowed wide digital, including unattended stations, anywhere in the amateur spectrum. Fast forward to 2013 and we got RM-11708, baud rate limit gone and wideband allowed anywhere in the RTTY/Data sub bands--wideband digital is currently allowed anywhere in that segment and is exploited by some current users connecting to off shore Winlink gateways with wider modes. If 16-239 passes as written expect to hear some new wide modes running all over the sub band with Winlink being the one group looking to expand their operations. Just recently one Winlink gateway decided it was a good idea to set up on 3510......cw guys aren't safe in this.

The 300 baud limit needs to go away but at the same time some sanity needs to be brought into the process as to where and how wideband digital is going to fit in. The ARRL is supposed to be coming up with a new band plan, but after their last
FCC submission, where what the Board requested and what actually got filed at the Commission was significantly different, I don't look for anything worthwhile coming out of the band planning committee.

Comments are to be submitted on 16-239, read the FCC Notice, and instructions on how to file can be found on www.rttycontesting.com  (top link, thanks Don for keeping that alive) and also on http://www.wirelessgirl.net/HowToFile16239STD.html
Please use your own wording, there are a couple of great examples on the ECFS already. One that really hits the points extremely well is  https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1103182882861/KC4RAN%20DA%2019-1130%2011-02-2019.pdf
December 2 is the deadline for comments.

Feel free to cross post wherever you think it might help.I only wish AB5K could see how far we've come with this,,,,,,,,

Ron K0IDT

 

NS RTTY this Thursday (Warning: local time change for most of you)

Ken K6MR
 

Greetings Diddlers:

It looks like I failed to send out my usual greeting last week.  My only excuse is that it was the great California Power Outage last week, so the generator noise sort of drove me wacky.  But all is back to normal in paradise!

 

For those of you who are forced into the crazy time changes every year, well last weekend was one of them.  So put a yellow sticky somewhere to remind yourself that UTC hasn’t changed but most likely we will be active one hour earlier in your local time.  So if no one appears to be around you likely missed us!

 

One of the major RTTY tests is up this weekend: WAE RTTY.  WAE is always interesting with the QTCs, and with RTTY there is more freedom to send and receive.  Of course I’m always partial to any kind of Sprint, so don’t forget a fast 4 hours of the SSB Sprint.


So please join us Thursday evening and make sure everything in your shack is ready for the WAE RTTY.  Here are the details:.

Friday,  8 Nov 2019, 0145Z - 0215Z (Thursday, 7 Nov 2019 in NA)
-- 1745 - 1815 PST
-- 2045 - 2115 EST
-- (others in-between those two)
-- 160: 1805 and up (Last two minutes seem to be popular…)
-- 80/40/20/15 +84 kHz up from the band edge   <--NOTE
-- Same band dupes ok after 1 intervening Q.
-- 1 kHz QSY rule, otherwise standard Sprint rules
-- Mults per band.
-- 100W power limit

Please visit http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html for complete rules and links to other info. If you find any problems with the web pages, please let me know so we can get them fixed.

If you would like to receive all the latest info about NS as well as a have a place for comments and questions, sign up for the NS mailing list:  https://groups.io/g/nccc-blue

Contestonlinescore.com has a slot set up for us if you’d like to make sure your logger is talking to the world.  Select NCCC NA RTTY Sprint.

Report scores to 3830scores.com, and join us at 0300Z on 3610 kHz (+/- a few for ongoing groups) for comments and questions (and dinner menus).

Diddle diddle,

Ken K6MR


Makrothen RTTY Contest 2019 - Results published

Stu K6TU
 

 

On behalf of Pizza Lovers 259, the sponsors of the Makrothen RTTY Contest, I am pleased to announce that the results for the 2019 running of the contest are published and available on-line at:

 

                https://www.pl259.org/makrothen/results/

 

The results package includes an article describing the overall contest results, placement tables for each of the operating categories as well as the “for fun” Club placements.  As a reminder, all participants can access their customized certificate and Log Check Report from the other links under the Makrothen menu item on the PL259 web site.

 

We very much appreciate everyone’s participation and hope you enjoyed the contest!  Next year’s contest will run on October 10th and 11th, 2020 with the same three time-slot format.

 

Rules for the contest are available at:

 

                https://www.pl259.org/makrothen/makrothen-rules/

 

73 and see you in the 2020 Makrothen RTTY Contest!

Stu K6TU

 

Makrothen RTTY Contest Manager

Pizza Lovers 259

JARTS RTTY Logs Deadline is soon

hisami dejima
 

Thank you to everyone for the participation JARTS 2019.
We hope you had fun in the contest.
 
The log submission deadline is on 31th of October 23:59 UTC, 
to <log@...>
 
Please check your callsign in our Logs Received list,
<http://jarts.jp/Submitted_log_2019.htm>
 
If you have any trouble for submitting the log,
please email us <questions@...> or my personal address,
 
TNX & 73, Hisami 7L4IOU / JARTS Contest Committee
 

DXP38 for sale

N2WQ
 
Edited

Time to clear the shack of hardware I no longer need. I am selling a DXP38 RTTY hardware modem in like-new condition. This is a powerful tool for decoding diversity and offers unique advantages compared to the common software decoders.

$175 shipped in the USA.
 
Please contact me privately if interested.
 
Rudy N2WQ

NS RTTY this Thursday

Ken K6MR
 

Greetings Diddlers:

Back into double digit turnout last week, and even the rare SD mult (WD0T) was back in the fray.

 

Looks like the upcoming weekend is a phone only weekend, so drag out the microphone and join in the fun!

 

But for a digital fix before the weekend, fire up the diddle machine and join us Thursday evening.  Here are the details for our usual get together.

Friday,  25 Oct 2019, 0145Z - 0215Z (Thursday, 24 Oct 2019 in NA)
-- 1845 - 1915 PDT
-- 2145 - 2215 EDT
-- (others in-between those two)
-- 160: 1805 and up (Last two minutes seem to be popular…)
-- 80/40/20/15 +84 kHz up from the band edge   <--NOTE
-- Same band dupes ok after 1 intervening Q.
-- 1 kHz QSY rule, otherwise standard Sprint rules
-- Mults per band.
-- 100W power limit

Please visit http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html for complete rules and links to other info. If you find any problems with the web pages, please let me know so we can get them fixed.

If you would like to receive all the latest info about NS as well as a have a place for comments and questions, sign up for the NS mailing list:  https://groups.io/g/nccc-blue

Contestonlinescore.com has a slot set up for us if you’d like to make sure your logger is talking to the world.  Select NCCC NA RTTY Sprint.

Report scores to 3830scores.com, and join us at 0300Z on 3610 kHz (+/- a few for ongoing groups) for comments and questions (and dinner menus).

Diddle diddle,

Ken K6MR


CQWW RTTY or CQWW WPX RTTY Plaque Sponsorship

Rich N1IXF
 

Did you enjoy this year's CQWW RTTY contest? Well, there is still an opportunity to have an impact on the results...at least in terms of recognizing top performance in various entry categories, and at the same time giving something back to RTTY contesting.

Plaques are awarded to category winners only if they are sponsored, and that's where we need you. You can visit the "Plaques & Sponsors" page to see what plaques are now available for sponsorship. Since updating that list, we have two new sponsors: Brian, N9ADG is sponsoring the Multi-Unlimited USA plaque and the Yankee Clipper Contest Club is sponsoring the Single-Op All Band HP World plaque.  A big THANK YOU to all the other plaque sponsors.  As further recognition, a list of the plaque sponsors will be included in the final results article. While we would like to have sponsors for each of the largest entry categories, if you wish, you can sponsor a plaque for any category not already sponsored or listed, for example Single Op or Multi Op / All Band or Single Band / HP or LP for your call area or country. The fee to sponsor a plaque is currently $65 and includes shipping to the winner. If you are willing to sponsor a CQWW RTTY plaque, please contact Rich Cady, N1IXF, via plaques@....

While I'm making this appeal, I'd ask that you also consider CQWW WPX RTTY plaque sponsorship. 

Thank you for considering this.

73,
Rich N1IXF

JARTS WW RTTY Contest this weekend

hisami dejima
 

Dear fellow contesters,
 
The JARTS WW RTTY Contest is held on Oct 19-20, this weekend.
 
We have the great pleasure to invite you to the 28th WW RTTY CONTEST.
2019 Rules and 2018 Results are online at  <http://www.jarts.jp>
 
if you have any questions, please email to <questions@...>
 
73 & GL! 
JARTS Contest Committee 
Hisami 7L4IOU
 

CTY-2915 Country Files - 16 October 2019

Jim Reisert AD1C
 

The Country (CTY) Files were updated on 16 October 2019:

http://www.country-files.com/cty-2915-16-october-2019/

For installation instructions, start at:

http://www.country-files.com/

Hover your mouse over the word Contest in the menu, then select the
software you are using.

To install the file, follow the link to your software at the top of the page.

If you are interested in a bigger CTY.DAT for everyday logging, you can get
it here:

http://www.country-files.com/big-cty-16-october-2019/

Note that the release notes (and Version Entity) for this larger file are
different than what is shown below. There is a separate link to them.

As a reminder, there is an RSS feed of the latest country file announcements:

http://www.country-files.com/feed/

Here are the release notes:

16 October 2019 (CTY-2915)
VER20191016, Version entity is Lithuania, LY

Added/changed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:

* 9M4CKT/6 and 9M4CRP/6 are both East Malaysia, 9M6
* BM9L, BM9W, BN9L, BN9W, BO9L, BO9W, BP9L, BP9W, BQ9L, BQ9W, BU9L,
BU9W, BV9L, BV9W, BW9L, BW9W, BX9L and BX9W are all Taiwan, BV
* EA3RKM/6, EA5EZ and EA5EZ/P are all Balearic Islands, EA6
* GB0SRK is Guernsey, GU
* GB0SCB and GB60ATG are both Wales, GW
* KJ9C is United States, K in CQ zone 4, ITU zone 6
* KX2P and W9LHG are both United States, K in CQ zone 4, ITU zone 7
* KP3M and W8WEJ are both United States, K in CQ zone 5, ITU zone 8
* K4QFS is Guam, KH2
* K6MIO, KB7AKQ, KG4CAN, KG9MDR and KJ6COM are all Hawaii, KH6
* KB7BUF, KD0ONB, KD2SKJ and NJ7H are all Alaska, KL
* K2U, K7V and KB1CKX are all Puerto Rico, KP4
* LU2FGD/F, LU6DK/D and LW3EB/D are all Argentina, LU
* R100AS, R110M, RN9N/6, RT9K/6, RV1CC/1 and UB5O/1 are all European Russia, UA
* R0CM/4 and RW9WJ/P are both European Russia, UA in ITU zone 30
* UA9UAX/2 and UB5O/2 are both Kaliningrad, UA2
* UB5O/8 is Asiatic Russia, UA9
* UB5O/4 is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 16
* UB5O/9 is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 18, ITU zone 31
* UB5O/0 is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 23
* VK5FLEA/6 is Australia, VK in CQ zone 29, ITU zone 58

Removed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:

* GB2MUC in Shetland Islands, *GM/s
* BD7LPD/UT3GF in China, BY
* EA5EZ/P in Spain, EA
* EA3ERT/6 in Balearic Islands, EA6
* TO8FTDM in Guadeloupe, FG
* TO5M in St. Pierre & Miquelon, FP
* GB5BL in Northern Ireland, GI
* GB0CLH, GB0NHL, GB0TNL, GB1OL, GB2AL, GB2LBN, GB2LG, GB2MUC, GB2THL
and GB2TNL in Scotland, GM
* GB0EUL, GB0PLL, GB0TL and GB1BPL in Wales, GW
* N2NS, W4LID, W4RJJ and W7XT in United States, K
* KF7BMU and KK6GVF in Guam, KH2
* K6IJ, KE4DYE, KM6IK and KR1LLR in Hawaii, KH6
* KB4DX in Alaska, KL
* LU2DT/D and LU8YD/Y in Argentina, LU
* PI4S/J in Netherlands, PA
* 8S8ODEN in Sweden, SM
* SV1BJY/P in Dodecanese, SV5
* R0AIB/3, R14MAKS, R1530IG, R550Y, R9JBN/4, RN0JT/6, RU9CK/7, RZ9SZ/3,
UA3FQ/P, UA9CTT/6, UB5O/4 and UE90PR in European Russia, UA
* RA/SP7VC in Kaliningrad, UA2
* R105WWS, R2ET/9, R8JAJ/4, R8JAJ/4/P, RA0LH/9, RA1ALA/8, RA4RU/9/P,
RL4R/8, RV1CC/0, RV9WB/8, RX9WT/8, RZ5D/0 and RZ5D/9 in Asiatic Russia, UA9
* V51NAM/L in Namibia, V5
* VE2GT/150 and VE2MW/3 in Canada, VE
* VK6AV/4 in Australia, VK
* ZS1CT/L and ZS5ZLB/L in South Africa, ZS

73 - Jim AD1C

--
Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us

NS RTTY this Thursday

Ken K6MR
 

Greetings Diddlers:

An active group last week, with a couple of our newer stations boosting their scores nicely.  Welcome all and glad to have you.

 

The upcoming weekend has the JARTS RTTY test, so a full 48 hours of diddling fun with plenty of activity.  And we get to see how we’re all aging…

 

So fire up the diddle machine and join us Thursday evening and make sure everything is in tip top shape.  Here are the details for our usual get together.

Friday,  18 Oct 2019, 0145Z - 0215Z (Thursday, 17 Oct 2019 in NA)
-- 1845 - 1915 PDT
-- 2145 - 2215 EDT
-- (others in-between those two)
-- 160: 1805 and up (Last two minutes seem to be popular…)
-- 80/40/20/15 +84 kHz up from the band edge   <--NOTE
-- Same band dupes ok after 1 intervening Q.
-- 1 kHz QSY rule, otherwise standard Sprint rules
-- Mults per band.
-- 100W power limit

Please visit http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html for complete rules and links to other info. If you find any problems with the web pages, please let me know so we can get them fixed.

If you would like to receive all the latest info about NS as well as a have a place for comments and questions, sign up for the NS mailing list:  https://groups.io/g/nccc-blue

Contestonlinescore.com has a slot set up for us if you’d like to make sure your logger is talking to the world.  Select NCCC NA RTTY Sprint.

Report scores to 3830scores.com, and join us at 0300Z on 3610 kHz (+/- a few for ongoing groups) for comments and questions (and dinner menus).

Diddle diddle,

Ken K6MR

 

Re: test

Mark Schoonover
 

Should have been :

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

73! Mark KA6WKE

Website: https://www.ka6wke.net


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 08:23 Melvin L. Nichols <nz0o@...> wrote:
Test message

test

Melvin L. Nichols
 

Test message

NS RTTY this Thursday

Ken K6MR
 

Greetings Diddlers:

I trust everyone worked their quota of W6s last weekend.  I worked  quite a few NSers during the weekend, so thanks to everyone for keeping us active.

 

Last week’s RTTY session was pretty active, with several new calls.  Ben, N9TR snuck in with his new call (was KD9IWX), along with  Bill, AC0W and Skye, W1TRN giving this sprint thing a try.  Welcome all and hope to see you back.

 

The upcoming weekend has the reinvigorated Makrothen RTTY test.  Now sponsored by a group here in CA, it still has the distance scoring algorithm missing in most contests.  The operating time is also unusual, being broken into three 8-hour sessions.  So plenty of time to use your diddle machine for some fun times.

 

Please join us Thursday evening and check out your station to be sure you are up and running.

Here are the details for our usual Thursday evening (in NA)  get together.

Friday,  11 Oct 2019, 0145Z - 0215Z (Thursday, 10 Oct 2019 in NA)
-- 1845 - 1915 PDT
-- 2145 - 2215 EDT
-- (others in-between those two)
-- 160: 1805 and up (Last two minutes seem to be popular…)
-- 80/40/20/15 +84 kHz up from the band edge   <--NOTE
-- Same band dupes ok after 1 intervening Q.
-- 1 kHz QSY rule, otherwise standard Sprint rules
-- Mults per band.
-- 100W power limit

Please visit http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html for complete rules and links to other info. If you find any problems with the web pages, please let me know so we can get them fixed.

If you would like to receive all the latest info about NS as well as a have a place for comments and questions, sign up for the NS mailing list:  https://groups.io/g/nccc-blue

Contestonlinescore.com has a slot set up for us if you’d like to make sure your logger is talking to the world.  Select NCCC NA RTTY Sprint.

Report scores to 3830scores.com, and join us at 0300Z on 3610 kHz (+/- a few for ongoing groups) for comments and questions (and dinner menus).

Diddle diddle,

Ken K6MR

_._,_._,_

 

CQWW RTTY DX Contest log submission deadline october 4, 2019 @ 23.59z

Dimitri F4DSK
 

Hi guys,

Just a reminder about the last CQWW RTTY DX Contest, according to the rules :


XI. LOG DEADLINE:

1. All entries must be sent WITHIN FIVE (5) DAYS after the end of the contest: no later than 2359 UTC October 4, 2019. Resubmitting an entry after the deadline will result in it being considered as a late log.

2. An extension may be requested by email to questions@.... The request must state a legitimate reason and must be received before the log deadline. Extensions are granted only upon confirmation by the Contest Director.

3. Logs submitted or postmarked after the deadline may be listed in the results, but will not be eligible for awards.



73 de Dimitri F4DSK