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Re: Logging in the Jemez Mountains (NM)

Dennis Hogan
 

A more comprehensive history of logging railroad operations in the Jemez:
http://npshistory.com/publications/usfs/region/3/santa-fe/cultres9/contents.htm


Logging in the Jemez Mountains (NM)

Dennis Hogan
 

It should be pretty this time of year in the Jemez Mountains.
https://jemezvalleyhistory.org/?page_id=908

Circle K map


San Marcial NM

Dennis Hogan
 

Very thorough write-up here about Santa Fe operations at San Marcial (before and after the flood):

http://socorro-history.org/HISTORY/smarcial/sanmarcial_railroad.pdf


"The Maggie"

Dennis Hogan
 

The Golden Spur Saloon in Magdalena NM hosts a fine collection of images at its website:
http://goldenspursaloon.com/contacts.html

Check out the recording of "Here Comes the Santa Fe" on that website!


Springdale ark

Tom Roise
 

Just took a look at the huge Tyson plant in this city sitting right in the railroad tracks.
It looks like they no longer use rail?
Yet the tracks are full of older Diesel engines? Blocking the main??
What’s the story here???

Thank you for responding.

Tom Roise


Rail Cafe

Dennis Hogan
 

Check out this place next time you're railfanning the BNSF out near Belen NM.
https://www.facebook.com/HubCityBrewingCompany/

That Green Chile Cheeseburger looks mighty tasty!

Pete's Café also looks like a winner:
https://www.petescafenewmexico.com/about-us/


Re: New railcam in RS territory

Dennis Hogan
 

Good to know about this one!
There are also Virtual Railfan cameras at Texarkana, Big Sandy, Tower 55 (Ft. Worth) and Belen--all in Railspot territory.

Until the SOUTHWEST CHIEF went tri-weekly I used to watch the railcam at La Plata MO in the evening about 7:30.


Re: TSRR diesel power issue?

Tom Roise
 

Sorry I missed it. Did not know about such an event?

Tom Roise


On Oct 24, 2020, at 9:55 PM, C A Buster <cbustertx@...> wrote:

I enjoyed last Friday's TSRR Rusk Diesel Roundup trip and the seating in the Presidential Car 1511 was a comfortable means to visit with my grandson and his wife (their four-year anniversary celebration).  Halfway into the trip, while still going up a minimal grade, we entered into a heavy rain shower, and to my surprise, the single diesel engine repeatedly lost traction and we had to stop, reverse a little and try again multiple times.  We ultimately made it to the Palestine station and there, they added another diesel engine, which served the train just fine on the return back to Rusk.  So what happened?  Surely any diesel engine could navigate a wet track with such a light six-car load.  Was the event indicating problems with the drive wheels?  Is this a common occurrence?  


Re: TSRR diesel power issue?

Tom Roise
 

Inexperienced engineer
Not familiar with the track in all conditions.


Probably not enough momentum to get the consist up the grade and not enough sand for traction.

Tom Roise


On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:00 PM, Gerald Hook <gah333br@...> wrote:



Either an inexperienced engineer, an empty sand box or clogged sand pipes.

 

Gerald Hook – Russellville, AR

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of C A Buster
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 9:56 PM
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: [Railspot] TSRR diesel power issue?

 

I enjoyed last Friday's TSRR Rusk Diesel Roundup trip and the seating in the Presidential Car 1511 was a comfortable means to visit with my grandson and his wife (their four-year anniversary celebration).  Halfway into the trip, while still going up a minimal grade, we entered into a heavy rain shower, and to my surprise, the single diesel engine repeatedly lost traction and we had to stop, reverse a little and try again multiple times.  We ultimately made it to the Palestine station and there, they added another diesel engine, which served the train just fine on the return back to Rusk.  So what happened?  Surely any diesel engine could navigate a wet track with such a light six-car load.  Was the event indicating problems with the drive wheels?  Is this a common occurrence?  


Re: New railcam in RS territory

Tom Roise
 

Thanks Bill
I just visited the site. Asked two questions with no reply??

Could be interesting if they have any train frequency. Any idea how many pass in the daylight?
Mostly BNSF?

Tom Roise


On Oct 24, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Bill Wasinger via groups.io <bwasinger@...> wrote:


Just FYI, there's a new railcam online in Quanah, TX. Says it is hosted by the City of Quanah, but I don't know if that means it's sponsored. Therefore I'm not sure if it will stay free or go behind a paywall at some point. For now, it's free…

Link below

Bill in OKC





~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! Oklahoma - Our tornadoes go to F6!


Re: Harlingen TX shops & yards

texaszephyr
 

Correct


On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:20 PM, Charles Wymola via groups.io <ce_wymola@...> wrote:


On top of the switch stand the light indicators are covered with metal coverings and only a slant opening is visible.


Re: Milford TX

Skip Waters
 

Well.... hickory dickory dock.... Look who's dug up this...  

What I didn't realize was Johnny Meyers is actually my long lost Uncle!?!  At least according to the photo caption... Dr. John Waters...  That's cool!

Yes, we ran this trip all stuffed in an old chevy suburban commuter van.  We even broke down or the engine overheated in Waco.  But we all got home safely.  We've been wanting to do another one of these trips ever since.

See Dennis, you need to keep your membership current with the chapter so you won't miss these fun trips!

Skip Waters
Dallas, Texas

On Saturday, October 24, 2020, 04:44:18 PM CDT, Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:


You just never know who you'll find in the news?
https://italyneotribune.com/stories/4dc92d9fc29e06850300049c/photos.html

When was this?
Ah, 2009.  The rest of the story...
https://italyneotribune.com/stories/4dc92d9fc29e06850300049c.html


New railcam in RS territory

Bill Wasinger
 

Just FYI, there's a new railcam online in Quanah, TX. Says it is hosted by the City of Quanah, but I don't know if that means it's sponsored. Therefore I'm not sure if it will stay free or go behind a paywall at some point. For now, it's free…

Link below

Bill in OKC





~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! Oklahoma - Our tornadoes go to F6!


Re: Harlingen TX shops & yards

Charles Wymola
 

On top of the switch stand the light indicators are covered with metal coverings and only a slant opening is visible.


Re: TSRR diesel power issue?

Gerald Hook
 

Either an inexperienced engineer, an empty sand box or clogged sand pipes.

 

Gerald Hook – Russellville, AR

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of C A Buster
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 9:56 PM
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: [Railspot] TSRR diesel power issue?

 

I enjoyed last Friday's TSRR Rusk Diesel Roundup trip and the seating in the Presidential Car 1511 was a comfortable means to visit with my grandson and his wife (their four-year anniversary celebration).  Halfway into the trip, while still going up a minimal grade, we entered into a heavy rain shower, and to my surprise, the single diesel engine repeatedly lost traction and we had to stop, reverse a little and try again multiple times.  We ultimately made it to the Palestine station and there, they added another diesel engine, which served the train just fine on the return back to Rusk.  So what happened?  Surely any diesel engine could navigate a wet track with such a light six-car load.  Was the event indicating problems with the drive wheels?  Is this a common occurrence?  


TSRR diesel power issue?

C A Buster
 

I enjoyed last Friday's TSRR Rusk Diesel Roundup trip and the seating in the Presidential Car 1511 was a comfortable means to visit with my grandson and his wife (their four-year anniversary celebration).  Halfway into the trip, while still going up a minimal grade, we entered into a heavy rain shower, and to my surprise, the single diesel engine repeatedly lost traction and we had to stop, reverse a little and try again multiple times.  We ultimately made it to the Palestine station and there, they added another diesel engine, which served the train just fine on the return back to Rusk.  So what happened?  Surely any diesel engine could navigate a wet track with such a light six-car load.  Was the event indicating problems with the drive wheels?  Is this a common occurrence?  


Louisiana Southern #505

Edward Johnson
 




On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:33 AM, jthomasmet via groups.io <jthomasmet@...> wrote:


I believe that is an early GE in the photo. It might be an 80 tonner. It is not a Whitcomb for sure.
Jeff Thomas
Denton, Tx.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...>
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2020 10:22 am
Subject: [Railspot] Louisiana Southern #505

Whitcomb?


Re: Louisiana & North West RR

randy james
 

And just think I lived a block away from it and played around it many a time. Not even realizing it was a depot.

Randy James

On Thursday, October 22, 2020, 12:58:29 AM CDT, Skip Waters <wgcrush@...> wrote:


Well... I don't know if I know more... but, I can tell you what I do know.

The other depot in Natchitoches that is used as City Hall appears to be for a line that tapped off the T&P or what later became the T&P.  At the time Natchitoches got a railroad, it was a TAP line that connected with the T&P at Cypress, Louisiana.  (I now see there is more T&P Louisiana history I need to go study.)

The way the city streets and topography is laid out leading to the City Hall depot, it seems like the rail line came off the T&P, or off the TAP line (Natchitoches Railroad), just after 2nd street and ran down 5th street and then curved into the present location on Amulet Street.  If you study a street map, you will see two roads side by side along this route.  One is "lower 5th" street and the other is simply "5th street". Well, 5th street is the old right of way roadbed for the railroad line to the City Hall depot.  Going to school there I always thought it was odd to build such a high road next to a second road along the houses.  Then, I learned of the Depot and followed the right of way and it all made sense.

As for City Hall depot as the first depot of Natchitoches, even though the plaque on the City Hall depot says it's the first one, I'm not so sure.  The 1887 photo of the depot in the Natchitoches Times 2013 article (attached) does not match the current City Hall depot's architecture.  Plus, the article says the first depot location was near Jefferson Street at the entrance of the University.  This would make sense as there is a large swath of land near this location with doesn't account for why the street pitched far away from the right of way here... unless there were railroad buildings or structures there at one time?  A depot perhaps?

I also have a print from the 1983 Natchitoches Folk Festival (attached) which shows what appears to be the first Natchtoches depot set in 1910 next to an engine house or shed for the Natchitoches Railroad and the depot does not match the current architecture of the City Hall depot.  It matches more closely to the depot shown in the Natchitoches Times article photo of 1887.

Note another photo from 1900 (attached), showing the same train shed and depot (just like the 1983 print) describes the scene as this...

Men with horses and train at tap line depot at Chaplin's Lake, Natchitoches, Louisiana. "This engine belongs to the old Natchitoches Railroad--Ran to Cypress, connected with the T & P local there. This location is the Railroad Crossing at Chaplain's Lake 1900."

The railroad crossing at Chaplain's Lake is right next to Jefferson Street at the University entrance and the plot of empty land where this first depot would of been located.  It's all coming together now...

I have another book to reference about Louisiana rail history, but it's not easy to get to, once I do, I'll submit more info about the mysteries of the Railroads of Natchitoches, Louisiana.

Skip Waters
Dallas, Texas




On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 08:08:45 PM CDT, texaszephyr <texaszephyr@...> wrote:


Skip should know, he went to school there.

I’ve always wondered if this line was used in the John Wayne “The Horse Soldiers”. It was supposedly filmed at Nachitoches.

TZ


On Oct 21, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:

Back in 1910 it covered almost 121 miles from McNeil to Natchitoches.
This accounts for the other extant depot in Natchitoches, I think. The one in addition to the T&P depot.
https://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMQXTD_Natchitoches_Railway_Depot_Natchitoches_LA


Milford TX

Dennis Hogan
 

You just never know who you'll find in the news?
https://italyneotribune.com/stories/4dc92d9fc29e06850300049c/photos.html

When was this?
Ah, 2009.  The rest of the story...
https://italyneotribune.com/stories/4dc92d9fc29e06850300049c.html


The Medina Line

Dennis Hogan
 

Any updates on the construction or operation of this line?
https://sgrr.com/

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