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newly-restored vintage DRGW passenger cars on Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad

James Robichaux
 


Re: Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

texaszephyr
 

Correct, and it was the southern terminal for Buzzard Air Lines who once operated gas filled balloon trips between Wichita Falls and the weather station in Presidio.

Their slogan was,
“Everybody’s gotta go sometime, so when it’s your time, go Buzzard!”

TZ



On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:52 AM, D. Howard Bingham <ke5apj@...> wrote:



Unrelated:  Presidio used to be in weather reports as the hottest place in Texas.  (IIRC is in a valley with little air circulation.)

D. Howard Bingham

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On 9/29/2020 7:18 AM, Dennis Hogan wrote:
I think the line is still owned by the state of Texas and operated by Texas Pacifico.
The section south of Paisano Pass is overgrown with vegetation. I noticed a rare
lighted signal with a fixed semaphore blade just south of the junction with the UP.

Nothing of note in Presidio except the town is dead.  Our favorite eatery (El Patio) was
temporarily closed.  Lots of other closed businesses. 
The old Santa Fe depot is gone.   There's a derelict container unloader nearby, some drying
sheds, and an old black-painted fuel or water tank.


Re: Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

D. Howard Bingham
 

Unrelated:  Presidio used to be in weather reports as the hottest place in Texas.  (IIRC is in a valley with little air circulation.)

D. Howard Bingham

--

On 9/29/2020 7:18 AM, Dennis Hogan wrote:
I think the line is still owned by the state of Texas and operated by Texas Pacifico.
The section south of Paisano Pass is overgrown with vegetation. I noticed a rare
lighted signal with a fixed semaphore blade just south of the junction with the UP.

Nothing of note in Presidio except the town is dead.  Our favorite eatery (El Patio) was
temporarily closed.  Lots of other closed businesses. 
The old Santa Fe depot is gone.   There's a derelict container unloader nearby, some drying
sheds, and an old black-painted fuel or water tank.
_._,_._,_



Re: Rock Island North Junction

Jerry Storrs
 

And that's the bottom line cause stone cold Steve says so.


On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 4:26 PM Tom Nikiel <tmnikiel@...> wrote:
Thank you gentlemen, nothing like a pair of SG's to get the bottom line!
Tom

Virus-free. www.avg.com

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:12 PM Steve Goen <texaszephyr@...> wrote:
Steve is correct.

The original SG


On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Steve Grabman via groups.io <sgrabman=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

The one that immediately comes to mind is on the north end of “The Hump” in downtown Wichita, Kansas where the Santa Fe from Newton joins the Rock from Herrington to go through town on what was once the Wichita Terminal Railway.

Steve Grabman


On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Tom Nikiel <tmnikiel@...> wrote:


Does anyone know where "North Junction" on the Rock Island was? I believe it was somewhere in the DFW metroplex, maybe in Fort Worth.  Could this have possibly been the north end of the wye near Purina in Ft. Worth? I've looked at the TX Towers website but am not able to track this down.
Thank you


Re: Rock Island North Junction

Tom Nikiel
 

Thank you gentlemen, nothing like a pair of SG's to get the bottom line!
Tom

Virus-free. www.avg.com


On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:12 PM Steve Goen <texaszephyr@...> wrote:
Steve is correct.

The original SG


On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Steve Grabman via groups.io <sgrabman=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

The one that immediately comes to mind is on the north end of “The Hump” in downtown Wichita, Kansas where the Santa Fe from Newton joins the Rock from Herrington to go through town on what was once the Wichita Terminal Railway.

Steve Grabman


On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Tom Nikiel <tmnikiel@...> wrote:


Does anyone know where "North Junction" on the Rock Island was? I believe it was somewhere in the DFW metroplex, maybe in Fort Worth.  Could this have possibly been the north end of the wye near Purina in Ft. Worth? I've looked at the TX Towers website but am not able to track this down.
Thank you


Re: Rock Island North Junction

texaszephyr
 

Steve is correct.

The original SG


On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Steve Grabman via groups.io <sgrabman@...> wrote:

The one that immediately comes to mind is on the north end of “The Hump” in downtown Wichita, Kansas where the Santa Fe from Newton joins the Rock from Herrington to go through town on what was once the Wichita Terminal Railway.

Steve Grabman


On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Tom Nikiel <tmnikiel@...> wrote:


Does anyone know where "North Junction" on the Rock Island was? I believe it was somewhere in the DFW metroplex, maybe in Fort Worth.  Could this have possibly been the north end of the wye near Purina in Ft. Worth? I've looked at the TX Towers website but am not able to track this down.
Thank you


Re: Rock Island North Junction

Tom Roise
 

The zephyr will know

Probably in his new book

Tom Roise


On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Tom Nikiel <tmnikiel@...> wrote:


Does anyone know where "North Junction" on the Rock Island was? I believe it was somewhere in the DFW metroplex, maybe in Fort Worth.  Could this have possibly been the north end of the wye near Purina in Ft. Worth? I've looked at the TX Towers website but am not able to track this down.
Thank you


Re: Rock Island North Junction

Steve Grabman
 

The one that immediately comes to mind is on the north end of “The Hump” in downtown Wichita, Kansas where the Santa Fe from Newton joins the Rock from Herrington to go through town on what was once the Wichita Terminal Railway.

Steve Grabman


On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Tom Nikiel <tmnikiel@...> wrote:


Does anyone know where "North Junction" on the Rock Island was? I believe it was somewhere in the DFW metroplex, maybe in Fort Worth.  Could this have possibly been the north end of the wye near Purina in Ft. Worth? I've looked at the TX Towers website but am not able to track this down.
Thank you


Rock Island North Junction

Tom Nikiel
 

Does anyone know where "North Junction" on the Rock Island was? I believe it was somewhere in the DFW metroplex, maybe in Fort Worth.  Could this have possibly been the north end of the wye near Purina in Ft. Worth? I've looked at the TX Towers website but am not able to track this down.
Thank you


Re: Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

Walt Parsons
 

I sent the newspaper editor an email requesting any follow up news he had, I’ll pass it along as received. 


On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:

Lots of articles in 2018 and 2019 saying reconstruction was imminent.
Here's one of those:
https://bigbendsentinel.com/2019/01/31/work-under-way-on-railroad-vehicle-bridges-connecting-presidio-and-ojinaga/

No confirmation it has been completed that I've found.
I saw no physical evidence while I was there.  I did not get close enough to the Rio Grande to see for myself.


Rock Island book update

texaszephyr
 

Just to let everyone know I am hoping to get the last of my “Passenger Trains of Texas - Rock Island” books shipped out this week. I’m sorry for the delay but we’ve had family issues to deal with so I’ve had limited time to get them boxed up and get them to the post office.

If you’re one of the ones still waiting please be patient. Thanks.

TZ


Re: Red River & Gulf - Sep 26-27 Work Session

texaszephyr
 

Good stuff here. You guys are doing a great job.

TZ




On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Jason Rose wrote:

Here’s the report from the Sep 26-27 Work Session.
 
 
Most of the weekend was spent clearing downed trees (Hurricane Laura) from the branch to Long Leaf Jct. The NFS was kind enough to clear the town and loop, so we finished the rest of the railroad.
 
 
Jason Rose
<>< 
RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training
Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub
 
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC
“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC
"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."
    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto
 

-- 

 

 

Jason Rose
<>< 
RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training
Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC
“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC
"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."
    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto
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Re: Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

Dennis Hogan
 

Lots of articles in 2018 and 2019 saying reconstruction was imminent.
Here's one of those:
https://bigbendsentinel.com/2019/01/31/work-under-way-on-railroad-vehicle-bridges-connecting-presidio-and-ojinaga/

No confirmation it has been completed that I've found.
I saw no physical evidence while I was there.  I did not get close enough to the Rio Grande to see for myself.


Re: Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

Gerard Kelley
 

Howdy Dennis,

Is the RR bridge rebuild still underway, finished or inactive? That was supposed to bloom out the whole county, then all of Texas west of the Trinity.

kelley


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...>
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2020 7:18 am
Subject: Re: [Railspot] Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

I think the line is still owned by the state of Texas and operated by Texas Pacifico.
The section south of Paisano Pass is overgrown with vegetation. I noticed a rare
lighted signal with a fixed semaphore blade just south of the junction with the UP.

Nothing of note in Presidio except the town is dead.  Our favorite eatery (El Patio) was
temporarily closed.  Lots of other closed businesses. 
The old Santa Fe depot is gone.   There's a derelict container unloader nearby, some drying
sheds, and an old black-painted fuel or water tank.


Watching Amtrak #1 on 9-24-20

Dennis Hogan
 

After breakfast last Thursday we drove over to the Alpine TX depot to watch
#1 arrive and depart.  The waiting room was open by an elderly volunteer.  The
space has been spruced up since I last visited the depot.  Sometime in the last
5, 10, or ... years a new platform has been constructed as well.  The other part
of the depot is used by Amtrak and UP crews.

The train was 1.5 hours late with a slower freight in front of it.  Consist of #1 was:
2 locomotives + 7 passenger cars ( 2 sleepers, Sightseer lounge, diner, and 3 coaches).
There were no passengers boarding that day.  Lots of passengers got off to stretch and
smoke. I think the dwell time was at least 15 minutes, probably because of the freight ahead.

After #1 departed we went back to the Antelope Lodge before we headed west to Marfa and Presidio.
We actually caught up to #1 before Paisano Pass.  It was moving very slowly.  We paced it a bit and
then proceeded to Marfa where we passed that slow westbound freight on the eastern approach to Marfa.

I noticed on the schedule posted on the waiting room door that Thursdays were days both #1 and #2 stop at
Alpine.  One could travel from the east, stay the day in Alpine without an overnight, and head back east.


Re: Alpine Orient/Santa Fe depot 9-25-20

Scott Kelm
 

Oh my good friend, the late Captain Video.  My son enjoyed watching his videos as a young child.  And I remember his dead cow on his N guage module, Bob had a wicked sense of humor.


On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:16 AM, Jason Rose
<Jason@...> wrote:

“Mr. Sunderland” was one of my middle school math teachers.  He brought in an 8’ section of an N scale layout for Christmas each year. And, I ran across him running a large N scale club layout at a model railroad show in the late 80’s.  He was especially proud of his drive-in movie theatre built around a small-screen TV. At the time, that was very high-tech. 

 

I would’ve liked to have known him as an adult.

 

Small world… 

 

 

Jason Rose

<><  

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of David H Bingham
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:56 PM
To: Dennis Hogan
Cc: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Railspot] Alpine Orient/Santa Fe depot 9-25-20

 

Sure has deteriorated since a vhs video shot by the late Bob Sunderland in 1980's where he was known as "Captain Video.

 

D. Howard Bingham

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 8:34 PM Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:

It's in poor shape!  Vacated.  Part of the roof is gone.


--
 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Re: Ft. Stockton 9-23-20

Dennis Hogan
 

I think the line is still owned by the state of Texas and operated by Texas Pacifico.
The section south of Paisano Pass is overgrown with vegetation. I noticed a rare
lighted signal with a fixed semaphore blade just south of the junction with the UP.

Nothing of note in Presidio except the town is dead.  Our favorite eatery (El Patio) was
temporarily closed.  Lots of other closed businesses. 
The old Santa Fe depot is gone.   There's a derelict container unloader nearby, some drying
sheds, and an old black-painted fuel or water tank.


Re: Alpine Orient/Santa Fe depot 9-25-20

Jason Rose
 

“Mr. Sunderland” was one of my middle school math teachers.  He brought in an 8’ section of an N scale layout for Christmas each year. And, I ran across him running a large N scale club layout at a model railroad show in the late 80’s.  He was especially proud of his drive-in movie theatre built around a small-screen TV. At the time, that was very high-tech. 

 

I would’ve liked to have known him as an adult.

 

Small world… 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of David H Bingham
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:56 PM
To: Dennis Hogan
Cc: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Railspot] Alpine Orient/Santa Fe depot 9-25-20

 

Sure has deteriorated since a vhs video shot by the late Bob Sunderland in 1980's where he was known as "Captain Video.

 

D. Howard Bingham

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 8:34 PM Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:

It's in poor shape!  Vacated.  Part of the roof is gone.


--
 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Re: Alpine Orient/Santa Fe depot 9-25-20

David H Bingham
 

Sure has deteriorated since a vhs video shot by the late Bob Sunderland in 1980's where he was known as "Captain Video.

D. Howard Bingham

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 8:34 PM Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:
It's in poor shape!  Vacated.  Part of the roof is gone.


Alpine Orient/Santa Fe depot 9-25-20

Dennis Hogan
 

It's in poor shape!  Vacated.  Part of the roof is gone.