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Chicago questions

texaszephyr
 

I realize that this isn't RS related except for the fact that the two roads in question did come to Texas. So hopefully someone can answer these before I get shot.

Q1. There used to be a building next to Dearborn Street Station that featured a large "Lee Work Clothes" billboard painted on the south side of the building. It shows up in a lot of Santa Fe Texas Chief photos taken at Dearborn. Does anyone know the name of the building as if its still there today (billboard included)?

Q2. There is an interlocking tower at 16th Street in Chicago that has (or had) about 12 diamonds. The north south line (4 sets of tracks) is the former Rock Island and possibly someone else as well. Does anyone know what railroads crossed on the three east-west tangent lines there? My bet is that it was two different lines. I need current and previous operators of all lines that passed the 16th Street Tower during the 1970s.


Thanks!

TZ


Great Southwest Adventure part 4 of 4

Nathan Herring
 


Tuesday June 23

We got a late start as we slept in after the long day the day before.

We grabbed some breakfast and headed to Rio Puerco to catch Amtrak 4 seen here running wrong main due to a Form B on the crossover
https://flic.kr/p/2jht595

After it passed we went to Dalies to see what we could catch, didn’t take photos but both trains will be documented in the video below

We then went back to the hotel to wait for more favorable sun in the afternoon

We decided to go catch Amtrak 3 arriving in Albuquerque but were surprised by some thunderstorms that would end up leaving it cloudy for the rest of the day

Amtrak 3 arrived in Albuquerque around 20 minutes early led by engine 50


While it was being worked over by Maintenance we headed down to the Old ATSF shop complexes which unfortunately is overrun by the homeless.

We decided to see if we could find where ATSF 2926 is housed which we found but of course due to the virus it’s tucked away and closed off to the public.

We made our way to the Isleta Pueblo Railrunner station to catch 3 again which had a thunderstorm as a background.

We then headed down to the Beevers crossover on the Clovis Sub which was hopping for the short time we were there

It all started off with a westbound loaded BPTLSBD418A (empty containers) running around a half manifest/half stack running as the HTULBAR120A
https://flic.kr/p/2jhrKLQ

The bare table would crossover from M1 to M2 and before the TULBAR got his signal another eastbound mega stack would pass by (no pic)

The TULBAR got his signal soon after and I got this shot of it.
https://flic.kr/p/2jhrKLe

We called it a day following the TULBAR due to no more westbound traffic within 50 miles and high winds coming off the thunderstorms in the mountains.

Videos (Available in 1080P HD)

Saturday
https://youtu.be/onBsIWjmUAY

Sunday 


A great video of SP 1744 restored in Ft. Worth and ran in New Orleans

Skip Waters
 


Re: Luminent Kosse Mine

Danny Sisk
 

I drove by Luminates yard at Kosse recently and there were no trains or anything else in it ...


Re: Luminent Kosse Mine

Tom Roise
 

As long as we are asking a general question.

Would it not make sense that with the closing of the Atlantic gas pipeline deal between duke and Chesapeake.
and with warden buffet buying 50% or so of Chesapeake? Would this not be great news for the railroads to now carry this volume? 
With some gas Originating from Texas as well?


Tom Roise


On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:37 AM, SCHULTZE <schultze@...> wrote:


A recent post on TrainOrders indicated that the author thought that the Kosse Mine had closed. If so, the Railroad would no longer be required.  Is that a fact, or mere speculation ?

Norm


Luminent Kosse Mine

SCHULTZE
 

A recent post on TrainOrders indicated that the author thought that the Kosse Mine had closed. If so, the Railroad would no longer be required.  Is that a fact, or mere speculation ?

Norm


Re: “Passenger Trains of Texas - Rock Island” book

texaszephyr
 

The correct sale price is $49.95.

Sorry!!’

On Jul 5, 2020, at 11:25 AM, texaszephyr <texaszephyr@...> wrote:

This is a reminder that everyone has one more week to take advance of my special Pre-Publication discount on my new upcoming Rock Island book.

This is the second volume in my Passenger Trains of Texas series.

List price is $59.95 but if you order this week the price is only $59.95. Shipping is $6.00 and Texas residents must add 8.25% state sales tax.

Details on my book as well as ordering info is available online at:

www.texaszephyrpublishing.com

And if anyone on RS is also on the Texas Railroad History Facebook page please forward this to them. Thanks!

TZ



“Passenger Trains of Texas - Rock Island” book

texaszephyr
 

This is a reminder that everyone has one more week to take advance of my special Pre-Publication discount on my new upcoming Rock Island book.

This is the second volume in my Passenger Trains of Texas series.

List price is $59.95 but if you order this week the price is only $59.95. Shipping is $6.00 and Texas residents must add 8.25% state sales tax.

Details on my book as well as ordering info is available online at:

www.texaszephyrpublishing.com

And if anyone on RS is also on the Texas Railroad History Facebook page please forward this to them. Thanks!

TZ


Re: Watch "Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Antonito, Colorado!" on YouTube

Ron Roman
 

The COVID-19 Maximum Crowd Limit… I think it was 10 passengers per car.

New Mexico has in place right now, a 14 day quarantine if you enter the State by any transportation mode… not good.

Yes, ORM did some runs today, and they got their COVID-19 rules to go by, with reduced seating.
https://www.oklahomarailwaymuseum.org/events/train-rides/
 
I’m staying put… Ron’s Home Project’s 2020 is coming along just great.

Ron R AF5AS

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From: Steve Goen
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎4‎, ‎2020 ‎6‎:‎45‎ ‎PM
To: David H Bingham
Cc: AllAboardRailDiscussion@groups.io, rs-talon@groups.io

The eastern half of the Route is mainly high desert with a few dormant volcanos in the area. The west end is in the mountains and forest.

TZ


On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:16 PM, David H Bingham <binghamdavidh@...> wrote:


https://youtu.be/E_Oyka3Xo_o 

Sure doesn't appear to be many riders & lack of scenery from other parts of the route from New Mexico may be part of the reason. Durango & Silverton is more scenic, but the Silverton end blocked off due to a washout on Northern end of the route. 

Video by: Yard Limits YouTube channel.
Forwarded by: D. Howard Bingham
Posted: Jul. 04, 2020, 06:16 pm CDT
                             🚂🇺🇸

--
Ron R AF5AS

Altus, OK


Re: Watch "Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Antonito, Colorado!" on YouTube

texaszephyr
 

The eastern half of the Route is mainly high desert with a few dormant volcanos in the area. The west end is in the mountains and forest.

TZ


On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:16 PM, David H Bingham <binghamdavidh@...> wrote:


https://youtu.be/E_Oyka3Xo_o 

Sure doesn't appear to be many riders & lack of scenery from other parts of the route from New Mexico may be part of the reason. Durango & Silverton is more scenic, but the Silverton end blocked off due to a washout on Northern end of the route. 

Video by: Yard Limits YouTube channel.
Forwarded by: D. Howard Bingham
Posted: Jul. 04, 2020, 06:16 pm CDT
                             🚂🇺🇸


Watch "Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Antonito, Colorado!" on YouTube

David H Bingham
 

https://youtu.be/E_Oyka3Xo_o 

Sure doesn't appear to be many riders & lack of scenery from other parts of the route from New Mexico may be part of the reason. Durango & Silverton is more scenic, but the Silverton end blocked off due to a washout on Northern end of the route. 

Video by: Yard Limits YouTube channel.
Forwarded by: D. Howard Bingham
Posted: Jul. 04, 2020, 06:16 pm CDT
                             🚂🇺🇸


Re: Need a dose of C&TS action?

Ron Roman
 

Howard,
It’s a beautiful Railroad!!!
 
I think you are sounding disappointed that a railroad is offering their product in a limited mode and ops to where others have completely puled the pin and are CLOSED till next year or when ever.

I see folks enjoying life, a time to be doing what they do the best in these videos… sure a bunch things that should of, would of, could of is for the times…. but it all looks likes great time had by all.

I do think the ORM in OKC is doing limited rides, but they are doing rides last I heard, and they got a lot shorter track than C&T does.
I had to view at least a couple more to give me feel of “I was there”.

73’s,
Ron R AF5AS
Altus, OK



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Where's the scenery?  West Texas more scenic than this & the Durango & Silverton more scenic.

D. Howard Bingham

Deer Park, Tx.  

--

On 7/4/2020 7:48 AM, Dennis Hogan wrote:
Long train with relatively few passengers.
C&TS is only running Antonito to Osier currently.
All-you-can-eat buffet at Osier is a thing of the past.
Still worth the ride!
https://youtu.be/E_Oyka3Xo_o


--
Ron R AF5AS

Altus, OK


Re: One of those days

Gerard Kelley
 

Howdy

Who on this list hasn't not only tried but succeeded doing this ?

The Virginia Museum of Transportation at Roanoke had a display where a visitor could try to pull or push various  weights and it clearly showed hands on the superiority of steel on steel. I thought it was powerful in its simplicity. I think it was removed some years ago.
 G. Kelley
   Arlington Tx



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...>
To: gerterkell@... <gerterkell@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 09:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Railspot] One of those days


Who was it--Charles Atlas--who pulled a lightweight, roller bearing passenger car
from a dead stop back in the 30s or 40s?

Happy 4th!


From: gerterkell@... <gerterkell@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 8:15 AM
To: denmeg_hogan@... <denmeg_hogan@...>; RS-TALON@groups.io <RS-TALON@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Railspot] One of those days
 
Howdy,
Is THIS any way  to run a railroad ?
Important lesson about the efficiency d steel wheels on steel rails.

G. Kelley
Arlington Tx


 



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...>
To: gerterkell@... <gerterkell@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 9:06 am
Subject: Re: [Railspot] One of those days

Who was it--Charles Atlas--who pulled a lightweight, roller bearing passenger car
from a dead stop back in the 30s or 40s?

Happy 4th!


From: gerterkell@... <gerterkell@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 8:15 AM
To: denmeg_hogan@... <denmeg_hogan@...>; RS-TALON@groups.io <RS-TALON@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Railspot] One of those days
 
Howdy,
Is THIS any way  to run a railroad ?
Important lesson about the efficiency d steel wheels on steel rails.

G. Kelley
Arlington Tx



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...>
To: RS-TALON <RS-TALON@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 07:55 AM
Subject: [Railspot] One of those days


Let the video speak for itself.  [Yes, out of RS area but RR related]
https://twitter.com/i/status/1278985658267246595


Re: Need a dose of C&TS action?

D. Howard Bingham
 

Where's the scenery?  West Texas more scenic than this & the Durango & Silverton more scenic.

D. Howard Bingham

Deer Park, Tx.  

--

On 7/4/2020 7:48 AM, Dennis Hogan wrote:
Long train with relatively few passengers.
C&TS is only running Antonito to Osier currently.
All-you-can-eat buffet at Osier is a thing of the past.
Still worth the ride!
https://youtu.be/E_Oyka3Xo_o
_._,_._,_



Re: Need a dose of C&TS action?

mardechris
 

We rode on Father’s Day.  Funny thing is my husband is not the railroad lover!  They had a long train with only 10 people per car. The train weighed in 450 tons, per my buddy Jeff.  Masks were  required the full time you were on the train and C&TS property, unless you were eating or drinking.   Lots of wheel slip on starts made me wish I was in the cab to hear the discussions between the fireman and engineer.  After eating in Osier, they backed the loaded train around the loop and headed back to Antonito.  The crew was really excited to share the loop experience with the passengers and reminded those that would listen about how rare that was, but most passengers were already bedded down for their nap back to Antonito after eating the wonderful “Thanksgiving” meal at the dining hall.

We stayed in the Narrow Gauge Railroad Inn next door to the Antonito yard this time.  We normally stay in Chama, but they are shutdown on that side.  It was older, but clean and convenient.  We have stayed at several of the places Dennis listed on the Chama side.   

Marde

On Jul 4, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:

Speaking of C&TS, here are places I've overnighted in and around Chama over the years.
Got a favorite?
Chama Hotel (across the street from the Chama depot)-- probably a different name now.
Elkhorn Lodge--probably my favorite
Vista del Rio Lodge
Corkins Lodge (south of Chama in a scenic canyon)
Jicarilla Apache Best Western (might be out of business now)--located west of Chama some miles.
Branding Iron Motel (back when the adjoining restaurant was still in business).


Re: One of those days

Gerard Kelley
 

Howdy,
Is THIS any way  to run a railroad ?
Important lesson about the efficiency d steel wheels on steel rails.

G. Kelley
Arlington Tx



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...>
To: RS-TALON <RS-TALON@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 07:55 AM
Subject: [Railspot] One of those days


Let the video speak for itself.  [Yes, out of RS area but RR related]
https://twitter.com/i/status/1278985658267246595


Re: Need a dose of C&TS action?

Dennis Hogan
 

Speaking of C&TS, here are places I've overnighted in and around Chama over the years.
Got a favorite?
Chama Hotel (across the street from the Chama depot)-- probably a different name now.
Elkhorn Lodge--probably my favorite
Vista del Rio Lodge
Corkins Lodge (south of Chama in a scenic canyon)
Jicarilla Apache Best Western (might be out of business now)--located west of Chama some miles.
Branding Iron Motel (back when the adjoining restaurant was still in business).


One of those days

Dennis Hogan
 

Let the video speak for itself.  [Yes, out of RS area but RR related]
https://twitter.com/i/status/1278985658267246595


Need a dose of C&TS action?

Dennis Hogan
 

Long train with relatively few passengers.
C&TS is only running Antonito to Osier currently.
All-you-can-eat buffet at Osier is a thing of the past.
Still worth the ride!
https://youtu.be/E_Oyka3Xo_o


Re: Great Southwest Adventure Part 3 of 4

Tom Roise
 

You are correct!!

Tom Roise


On Jul 3, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Steve Goen <texaszephyr@...> wrote:

Tom, you need my Semaphore Safari and two part Southwest Chief dvds.

Includes the last two wig-wags in action plus the final 64 semaphores in service.


On Jul 3, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Tom Roise via groups.io <tomroise@...> wrote:

Please tell us you have film of active wig wags.......

Only ones left in America 

Please film them before they are torn down as a part of history. 


Tom Roise


On Jul 3, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Nathan Herring <panhandlerails@...> wrote:


Monday June 21

After a 2:30 alarm and a 3:00 am departure from Albuquerque. Chuck and I headed north towards Trinidad so we could spend the day on Raton Pass with the Southwest Chief and to capture the remaining semaphore signals and the wig wag crossing at Delhi.

Around 5:45 we arrived in Wagon Mound where we turned on the old highway and started making our way East. Just shy of 6 we stopped at the intermediate signals at MP 722 where we were rewarded with a breathtaking sunrise behind the semaphores.

After a breakfast stop in Raton, we headed into Trinidad where while we were checking out the old Santa Fe yard we found this odd streetcar across the street from the Amtrak platform.
https://flic.kr/p/2jhrJqJ

After seeing there was no train traffic on the Twin Peaks Sub we decided to head on to Delhi so we would be ready for train 3.

At 9:xx Amtrak 3 led by engine 158 to races past the wigwag at Delhi, CO running 45 minutes late

Knowing we would not be able to beat the train back to Trinidad we headed straight to Gallinas where after 15 minutes they came by starting the ascent of Raton Pass.

We made a fuel stop in Raton but opted to take off as we wanted to make sure we were in position at West Levy to catch the train passing the semaphores

We filmed the train arriving in Las Vegas, but I did take a pic of the depot and Hotel Castaneda

We then headed west checking the progress of Train 4 which had AMTK 42 “Salute to Veterans” leading. We stopped to catch both trains in Ribera, NM as 4 was waiting around 10 miles west at Gise.

Train 3 with Chuck giving them a parting wave:

Train 4 led by AMTK 42 at Ribera, NM

After this we ended our chase as we were both beat and were ready to get back to Albuquerque for an early dinner and bed

Thanks for looking. Part 4 will come on Monday with the pics from Day 4 and the videos from all 4 days.