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Re: [LRMRG] Marrero question

Brian McDonald
 

James,

The facility on the river side of the railroad was the Johns Mansville plant:

https://louisianasiteselection.com/Property/Detail/11021/Former-Johns-Manville-Building

and the one between the railroad and Fourth St. was the Celotex plant:

https://louisianasiteselection.com/Property/Detail/10064/7500-4th-Street


The Jefferson Historical Society of Louisiana has a digital archive (http://www.jeffersonhistoricalsociety.com/VirtualArchives/jeffersonyearlyreview.htm) of the Jefferson Parish Annual Review, which boasted of the investment opportunities in the parish.  On page 45 of the initial issue from 1935, there is an article about the Celotex plant.  (Interestingly, there is also a proposal to create an inland deepwater port in Barataria Bay, (pp. 59 to 65) which could tie in to the under-construction Huey P. Long Bridge).


The yearbooks are fascinating reads, to see how the parish has changed over the decades.


Enjoy!


Brian

On November 24, 2020 at 4:12 PM James Robichaux <robichauxenterprises.jr@...> wrote:
<Monday>

There are remnants of industries on either side of the railroad rights of way in Marrero, as seen here, and I am talking about the oblong buildings on either side of the track:

I had always assumed that the one on the northern side of the railroads was the old Celotex plant, because that was where I drove when I first worked and live in New Orleans, but, more recently, I would drive past the one on the southern side of the railroads, and now I wonder.

Were both buildings part of the same operation?  If not, which one was the Celotex plant? and what was the other one?


Thanks.


James



 


Silver City NM narrow gauge

Dennis Hogan
 

This is one part of New Mexico I've never explored.
It had quite a history of mining.


Marrero question

James Robichaux
 

<Monday>

There are remnants of industries on either side of the railroad rights of way in Marrero, as seen here, and I am talking about the oblong buildings on either side of the track:

I had always assumed that the one on the northern side of the railroads was the old Celotex plant, because that was where I drove when I first worked and live in New Orleans, but, more recently, I would drive past the one on the southern side of the railroads, and now I wonder.

Were both buildings part of the same operation?  If not, which one was the Celotex plant? and what was the other one?


Thanks.


James



BNSF local traffic from Lafayette to Lake Charles inclusive

James Robichaux
 

<Sunday>

How is BNSF Railway local service west of Lafayette handled now?

When do any local trains run?  What are their schedules?  What industries do they serve?  What do they do along the way?

Thanks in advance.


James




Mike Condren

texaszephyr
 

I am sorry to report that Mike Condren passed away this morning in Tahlequah. I'm hoping that they can keep his websites up and running. He had some pretty good stuff on line.

TZ


replaced NOPB locomotives dispositions'?

James Robichaux
 

What is the status of each of the New Orleans Public Belt Railroad locomotives that have been replaced in the last year?  Are any still on NOPB property?  Are any of them still active?

Thanks.


James 


Re: RR&G Update

Jason Rose
 

Thank you, gents. I appreciate the positive feedback.

 

I’ll keep the information coming as we work towards the day when steam whistles are heard through the piney woods of Long Leaf. 

 

 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 

From: Tom Roise [mailto:tomroise@...]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:09 AM
To: texaszephyr
Cc: Jason Rose; RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Railspot] RR&G Update

 

Agree. Only I hope to get there someday 

Tom Roise

 



On Nov 20, 2020, at 9:03 AM, texaszephyr <texaszephyr@...> wrote:

I always enjoy receiving these updates. They are so detailed and well documented that they make me feel like I'm there. I would love to come and visit but unfortunately these updates will be the closest that I'll ever get.

 

You guys are doing a fantastic job. Reminds me of the good times that we once had here in WF and that feeling of accomplishment.

 

TZ

 

 

 

On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Jason Rose wrote:



Latest Work Session Report

 

Latest Video in Historical Series

 

 

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Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 


-- 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 


--
 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Re: RR&G Update

Tom Roise
 

Agree. Only I hope to get there someday 

Tom Roise


On Nov 20, 2020, at 9:03 AM, texaszephyr <texaszephyr@...> wrote:

I always enjoy receiving these updates. They are so detailed and well documented that they make me feel like I'm there. I would love to come and visit but unfortunately these updates will be the closest that I'll ever get.

You guys are doing a fantastic job. Reminds me of the good times that we once had here in WF and that feeling of accomplishment.

TZ



On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Jason Rose wrote:

Latest Work Session Report
 
Latest Video in Historical Series
 
 
<image001.jpg>
 
 
 
 
Jason Rose
<>< 
RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training
Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub
 
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC
“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC
"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."
    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto
 

-- 

 

 

Jason Rose
<>< 
RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training
Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC
“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC
"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."
    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Re: RR&G Update

texaszephyr
 

I always enjoy receiving these updates. They are so detailed and well documented that they make me feel like I'm there. I would love to come and visit but unfortunately these updates will be the closest that I'll ever get.

You guys are doing a fantastic job. Reminds me of the good times that we once had here in WF and that feeling of accomplishment.

TZ



On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Jason Rose wrote:

Latest Work Session Report
 
Latest Video in Historical Series
 
 
<image001.jpg>
 
 
 
 
Jason Rose
<>< 
RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training
Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub
 
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC
“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC
"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."
    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto
 

-- 

 

 

Jason Rose
<>< 
RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training
Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC
“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC
"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."
    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Re: Another New Mexico n.g. operation

Tom Roise
 

Wow-7 miles???

That’s a lot of wiring and ventilation shafts.

Are they still mining today? No wonder there are so many tunnels under the border!!!!

Lol



Tom Roise


On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Gerald Hook <gah333br@...> wrote:



The purpose of USP’s narrow gauge operations were to transport raw potash “ore” from several of their mine sites to a single processing plant.  Once there, the material was refined and readied for shipment via Santa Fe.

 

KCS had a sales office in El Paso for decades.  Bob Eatman retired in the early 1980s and his former sales territory was divided between the Houston and Los Angeles offices.  I was already calling on the import/export trade, from Brownsville to Eagle Pass, and having spent my entire three year Army enlistment at Fort Bliss (El Paso), inherited the eastern half of Bob’s territory.

 

Unfortunately by the time I started calling on the five mines in Carlsbad, trucks had captured virtually all the traffic in 750 or so mile radius.  This included a couple of KCS (former MIdSouth) plants in Mississippi.  Therefore, about the only tonnages available to KCS/L&A was toward the southeastern states.  I don’t know how many of those mines are in operation today.   

 

About 35 years ago, I was invited to tour IMC’s underground mine, which was an eye-opening experience.  After descending 750 feet, we boarded an electric golf cart and proceeded nearly seven miles out to one of the mine faces.  We rode along a long underground road which was parallel to another “road” the other side of the support columns.  That other road contained a series of conveyor belts that brought the ore to two skiffs which elevated the material to the surface.  Those conveyor belts supplanted the old narrow gauge operations.

 

Gerald Hook – Russellville, AR

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Hogan
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:29 AM
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: [Railspot] Another New Mexico n.g. operation

 

D&RGW and its C&TS incarnation today were not the only narrow gauge operations
in New Mexico.  U.S. Potash had its own commercial operation near Carlsbad NM.
I think the line survived into the 1960s using diesels.
Three of the steam locomotives survive.

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Re: Another New Mexico n.g. operation

Gerald Hook
 

The purpose of USP’s narrow gauge operations were to transport raw potash “ore” from several of their mine sites to a single processing plant.  Once there, the material was refined and readied for shipment via Santa Fe.

 

KCS had a sales office in El Paso for decades.  Bob Eatman retired in the early 1980s and his former sales territory was divided between the Houston and Los Angeles offices.  I was already calling on the import/export trade, from Brownsville to Eagle Pass, and having spent my entire three year Army enlistment at Fort Bliss (El Paso), inherited the eastern half of Bob’s territory.

 

Unfortunately by the time I started calling on the five mines in Carlsbad, trucks had captured virtually all the traffic in 750 or so mile radius.  This included a couple of KCS (former MIdSouth) plants in Mississippi.  Therefore, about the only tonnages available to KCS/L&A was toward the southeastern states.  I don’t know how many of those mines are in operation today.   

 

About 35 years ago, I was invited to tour IMC’s underground mine, which was an eye-opening experience.  After descending 750 feet, we boarded an electric golf cart and proceeded nearly seven miles out to one of the mine faces.  We rode along a long underground road which was parallel to another “road” the other side of the support columns.  That other road contained a series of conveyor belts that brought the ore to two skiffs which elevated the material to the surface.  Those conveyor belts supplanted the old narrow gauge operations.

 

Gerald Hook – Russellville, AR

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Hogan
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:29 AM
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: [Railspot] Another New Mexico n.g. operation

 

D&RGW and its C&TS incarnation today were not the only narrow gauge operations
in New Mexico.  U.S. Potash had its own commercial operation near Carlsbad NM.
I think the line survived into the 1960s using diesels.
Three of the steam locomotives survive.

_._,_._,_


 


RR&G Update

Jason Rose
 

Latest Work Session Report

http://www.redriverandgulf.net/Work-Session-20201114.html

 

Latest Video in Historical Series

http://www.redriverandgulf.net/RRG-Media.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 


--
 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Another New Mexico n.g. operation

Dennis Hogan
 

D&RGW and its C&TS incarnation today were not the only narrow gauge operations
in New Mexico.  U.S. Potash had its own commercial operation near Carlsbad NM.
I think the line survived into the 1960s using diesels.
Three of the steam locomotives survive.


San Jacinto Model Railroad Club (Virtual) Fall Layout Tour

Brian Jansky
 

Hi everyone,

Every November, in acknowledgement of National Model Railroad month, the San Jacinto Model Railroad Club sponsors a model railroad layout tour in the Houston area. This year in light of the Covid pandemic, members have taken the tour virtual! Video tours of the layouts on this year's tour can be found on the club's website and at the link below.

http://www.sanjacmodeltrains.org/Fall-Layout-Tour.html

We hope everyone enjoys the tour videos put together by the layout owners and we hope to see everyone out in person next year!

Thanks,
Brian Jansky


Re: Waco, Beaumont, Trinity, & Sabine Railway (The Wobbly)

Everett Lueck
 

Very Nice Don!

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 12:13:52 AM CST, Don Ross via groups.io <thedepot75062@...> wrote:




On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 12:12:44 AM CST, Don Ross <thedepot75062@...> wrote:


I have a web site which was one of my first ones.




Don


On Monday, November 16, 2020, 2:17:28 PM CST, Jason Rose <jason@...> wrote:


Last week (Nov 7), Everett Lueck and I helped dedicate a Texas Historic Marker in Trinity at the site of the WBT&S corporate office. I posted a video of the dedication and some photos.

 

In addition, there’s a video interview of the granddaughter of the last General Manager of the railroad. Her stories are very interesting and she did an excellent job reciting them.

 

Videos:  http://wbtsrailway.net/videos.htm

 

Marker photos:  http://wbtsrailway.net/Trinity-Depot-Marker.htm

 

In the coming months, I’m hoping to add at least three more video interviews with people that remember the railroad. If anyone on RailSpot would like to contribute, I’ll be happy to include you.

 

 

Jason Rose

<><  

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto

 


--
 

 

 

Jason Rose

<>< 

RioGrandeExplorations.net | Ferroequinearcheologist-in-Training

Spring, Texas - MP 209.7 - UP Palestine Sub

 

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Wendell Phillips

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." – Sgt John Stryker USMC

“Life is too short to deal with other people’s drama.” – Sgt Jason Rose USMC

"It was free men fighting against the minions of tyranny, and the result proved the inequality of such a contest."

    -Texas Secretary of War Thomas Rusk - The day after the Battle of San Jacinto


Re: Houston Union Station

Tom Roise
 

Unfortunately yes. When I used to visit Lasalle station in Chicago...

Tom Roise


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Dennis Hogan <denmeg_hogan@...> wrote:

Anyone here old enough to recall these amenities?

Newsstand:
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM74167

Lunch counter:
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM76926


Re: Stamford TX

Gerald Hook
 

Yes, it was very impressive.  I have some of its history.  Now, why does “Wisconsin History” have this on their website?

 

Gerald Hook – Russellville, AR

 

From: RS-TALON@groups.io [mailto:RS-TALON@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Hogan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:35 AM
To: RS-TALON@groups.io
Subject: [Railspot] Stamford TX

 

This is a pretty impressive union depot for such a small town.
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM90466


More John's cars...

Dennis Hogan
 

From Trainorders:
Date: 11/17/20 02:05
Two ex-Pacific Parlour cars on the move
Author: GenePoon
DALT 39973, ex-Amtrak 39973 "Santa Lucia Highlands", ex-AMTK 9973, ex-ATSF 578
DALT 39974, ex-Amtrak 39974 "Sonoma Valley", ex-AMTK 9974, ex-ATSF 579

Reported on the move from Beech Grove to Chicago on the morning of 16NOV2020 on Amtrak 51, "Cardinal."
Both cars were sold to Dallas Terminal Railway (John Radovich).


Hallettsville TX

Dennis Hogan
 


Houston Union Station

Dennis Hogan
 

Anyone here old enough to recall these amenities?

Newsstand:
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM74167

Lunch counter:
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM76926