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Change QTR printer assignment

Brubaker family
 

Is it possible to change the printer assigned to QTR without having to re-install the software?


In my case I have two Epson 1400 printers set up on my Mac, Epson Stylus Photo 1400 and Epson Stylus Photo 1400 2.  Right now the QTR software writes to the 1400 2, but I would like to change it to the 1400.


Any advice is welcome.


Mike Brubaker



Re: 1430 for K6

Dr. Elliot Puritz
 

Well, I see it is still available at B&H.  Hopefully, the printer will continue to be available.

 

However, the 2880, 3000, and apparently now the 3880 will no longer be manufactured.

 

Elliot

 

From: QuadtoneRIP@... [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@...]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 5:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] 1430 for K6

 

 

Still available in Canada too!

 

Le 2015-03-16 à 16:37, "jeff.grant@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@...> a écrit :





The 1430 is still available in Australia, but we are a Third World country for Epson. The 1430 is the only printer that I can get that doesn't have ink lines. I want to be able to store it with flush carts and then start again at little expense. My recent experience has taught me to go for a new printer with refillables.  

 

Jacques Caron

 


Re: 1430 for K6

Allan Greenier
 

I just bought a 1430 at Staples here in the USA.



On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, jeff.grant@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...> wrote:

The 1430 is still available in Australia, but we are a Third World country for Epson. The 1430 is the only printer that I can get that doesn't have ink lines. I want to be able to store it with flush carts and then start again at little expense. My recent experience has taught me to go for a new printer with refillables. 



Re: 1430 for K6

jcphoto52
 

Still available in Canada too!

Le 2015-03-16 à 16:37, "jeff.grant@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@...> a écrit :



The 1430 is still available in Australia, but we are a Third World country for Epson. The 1430 is the only printer that I can get that doesn't have ink lines. I want to be able to store it with flush carts and then start again at little expense. My recent experience has taught me to go for a new printer with refillables.  


Jacques Caron


Re: 1430 for K6

Jeff Grant
 

The 1430 is still available in Australia, but we are a Third World country for Epson. The 1430 is the only printer that I can get that doesn't have ink lines. I want to be able to store it with flush carts and then start again at little expense. My recent experience has taught me to go for a new printer with refillables. 


Re: 1430 for K6

Dr. Elliot Puritz
 

Has the 1430 printer been discontinued by Epson?

 

I read that the Epson 2800, 3000, and perhaps the 3880 have been discontinued.  I wonder what the Epson printer "line" will look like in the future.

 

Elliot

 

From: QuadtoneRIP@... [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@...]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:54 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] 1430 for K6

 

 

I'm thinking of getting a 1430 for K6 printing. I haven't been able to find out how well it handles HPR  or Canson Rag. Are there any issues? I know that the smaller printers have their limitations on heavier papers.

 

As far as I know, the only obvious drawback is the margin needed to avoid banding. There seems to be nothing between the 1430 and the 2000 which is a difference of over $600. It doesn't look like the 2000 has a lot more to offer as a K6 printer.


Re: 1430 for K6

Jeff Grant
 

Excellent, thanks Paul.


Re: 1430 for K6

Paul Roark
 

Assuming its the same as the 1400, I've fed both papers through it just fine with just a little manual assist in feeding.

Paul

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:53 PM, jeff.grant@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...> wrote:
 

I'm thinking of getting a 1430 for K6 printing. I haven't been able to find out how well it handles HPR  or Canson Rag. Are there any issues? I know that the smaller printers have their limitations on heavier papers.


As far as I know, the only obvious drawback is the margin needed to avoid banding. There seems to be nothing between the 1430 and the 2000 which is a difference of over $600. It doesn't look like the 2000 has a lot more to offer as a K6 printer.



1430 for K6

Jeff Grant
 

I'm thinking of getting a 1430 for K6 printing. I haven't been able to find out how well it handles HPR  or Canson Rag. Are there any issues? I know that the smaller printers have their limitations on heavier papers.


As far as I know, the only obvious drawback is the margin needed to avoid banding. There seems to be nothing between the 1430 and the 2000 which is a difference of over $600. It doesn't look like the 2000 has a lot more to offer as a K6 printer.


Re: Print Tool image sizing

Brian Downunda
 

Thanks.  That really is helpful.


Re: Print Tool image sizing

Roy Harrington
 

Print-Tool does not resample any images for printing -- never.  Print drivers "ask"
the OS for what data they want and OSX converts as necessary.  So Print-Tool
knows nothing about 720ppi or any other ppi -- it just send whole files to the OSX print
system.  QTR works on 720ppi input data so on Mac OSX that is provided by the
system, on PC there is an extra step to resample to 720ppi for QTR.  Epson
drivers for instance demand either 360ppi or 720ppi for input, Canon and HP
are different still.

As far as advice I think both Jon Cone & myself, and others have pretty much 
always advocated to just send QTR what you have.  You might create artificial
files that can demonstrate these re-sampling but for real images I really don't
think any of this matters a whole lot.  In general QTR does overkill on most
printing matters to make it a non-issue.

Roy

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:01 PM, brian_downunda@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...> wrote:


This discussion has been about Print Tool.  Does the same 720 thing happen with QTR on Windows? 

As Jeff said, there's a comment in Jon Cone's new piezography manual that suggests that QTR uses whatever you give it, which at first glance doesn't seem to quite gel with what Roy said.  But perhaps there's more going on in QTR than we realise.




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Re: Print Tool image sizing

Brian Downunda
 

This discussion has been about Print Tool.  Does the same 720 thing happen with QTR on Windows? 

As Jeff said, there's a comment in Jon Cone's new piezography manual that suggests that QTR uses whatever you give it, which at first glance doesn't seem to quite gel with what Roy said.  But perhaps there's more going on in QTR than we realise.


Re: Print Tool image sizing

jcphoto52
 

Thanks

I'll try different resolution to see what I like best.

Jacques

Le 2015-03-11 à 16:42, "richard@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@...> a écrit :



I've been all over the documentation and 720ppi thing isnt mentioned anywhere, but Roy has addressed a few times it here, as well as other forums. But he said it; you gotta see what works for you. 

Personally, I used to be very picky about downsampling to the 720ppi output resolution, but determined that unless I am printing a huge file at a much smaller size I don't usually bother anymore. I base my scanning resolution based on how big I want to print so I would scan a 120 film to print at 360 at 24x24, and then down sample a copy to 360ppi at 16x16, and use that file to print an 8x8 at 720,  Now that I am doing a lot more with digital capture if I have a file that will print between 300ppi and 720ppi I leave it alone and just let the driver do the work.  I don't print larger than the file will go on its own without up-sampling so that can of worms is never really an issue...

Richard Boutwell




Jacques Caron


Re: Print Tool image sizing

 

I've been all over the documentation and 720ppi thing isnt mentioned anywhere, but Roy has addressed a few times it here, as well as other forums. But he said it; you gotta see what works for you. 

Personally, I used to be very picky about downsampling to the 720ppi output resolution, but determined that unless I am printing a huge file at a much smaller size I don't usually bother anymore. I base my scanning resolution based on how big I want to print so I would scan a 120 film to print at 360 at 24x24, and then down sample a copy to 360ppi at 16x16, and use that file to print an 8x8 at 720,  Now that I am doing a lot more with digital capture if I have a file that will print between 300ppi and 720ppi I leave it alone and just let the driver do the work.  I don't print larger than the file will go on its own without up-sampling so that can of worms is never really an issue...

Richard Boutwell


Re: Print Tool image sizing

jcphoto52
 

Thanks

Just asking since nowhere in Print Tool User guide there is the mention that the software will "sample up" at 720.

For sure I'll try it out but wanted to know also is someone already tried it.

Jacques
Le 2015-03-11 à 15:05, "Roy Harrington roy@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@...> a écrit :

You really have got to try stuff like this.  Anything that involves "what happens on a print" is
up to you/whoever wants to know.
Roy

Jacques Caron


Re: Print Tool image sizing

Roy Harrington
 



On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...> wrote:

Hi

Reading your answer, since I have plenty of resolution in my originals, should I save my pictures (out of Photoshop) at 720 dpi for a maximum sharpness?

Thanks


You really have got to try stuff like this.  Anything that involves "what happens on a print" is
up to you/whoever wants to know.
Roy


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Re: Print Tool image sizing

jcphoto52
 

Hi

Reading your answer, since I have plenty of resolution in my originals, should I save my pictures (out of Photoshop) at 720 dpi for a maximum sharpness?

Thanks

Le 2015-03-11 à 00:24, Roy Harrington roy@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...> a écrit :



If you have a really low resolution image (less than 200-240 maybe) you may want to upsample
using Photoshop or some special technique so you can sharpen or whatever afterward.
But as long as you have decent resolution I'd just pass the image in as is -- 463ppi would be just fine.
On the way to dithering QTR driver will be up sampling to 720ppi regardless of what you send.

Roy

Jacques Caron


Re: Print Tool image sizing

Jeff Grant
 

Thanks, Roy.


Re: Print Tool image sizing

Roy Harrington
 

If you have a really low resolution image (less than 200-240 maybe) you may want to upsample
using Photoshop or some special technique so you can sharpen or whatever afterward.
But as long as you have decent resolution I'd just pass the image in as is -- 463ppi would be just fine.
On the way to dithering QTR driver will be up sampling to 720ppi regardless of what you send.

Roy

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:19 PM, jeff.grant@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@...> wrote:


Thinking about resizing a little more, Jon Cone advised me to set DPI in the image and let QTR sort it out. I have been using PK Sharpener to set the DPI by telling it the print size. This gives me odd numbers like 463DPI. Can QTR use any number or does it resize to one of the multiples like 360, 480 or whatever?




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Re: Install script help

Jeff Grant
 

I solved the problem. The files were in the quad tone folder in the library . I deleted them and the install now clean.

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