Date   

Re: Older QSI decoder

 

Don Gertz. All I can say is: That's what everyone was telling me to do. Replace the QSI. My PRR I1sa is a QSI decoder and just got that working. IF: You really want to replace it, go ahead, as mentioned above. (To me, a lot of work for little gain.) The QSI decoder when working is far superior to Tsunami 2. Yes, the Tsunami is newer and has a lot of support from the manufacturer. But I'm just giving you my opinion. To me, it was worth the effort/and expense to get the QSI working. So, maybe if you re-address your issue and explain what is wrong - as I did. Someone on here can guide you. Just as I was guided. And I do know a few other people who feel as I do. In fact, some of them buy up used QSI locos that people "just have to get rid of" for very cheap prices and fix them. And they are pretty happy about it. This is my observations an opinion. And in no way any kind of expert.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

Ray Di Ciacca
 

I had the same problem. You will have to replace the entire board. the attachment gives the wiring,  within #1 on the drivers side of the loco. Cut the plug off the harness and test the wire with a multi meter to make sure. Make sure you add the wires from the tender also. You may also have to cut the wires to the reed switch in the engine. 
Good luck Ray



On Jan 4, 2021, at 2:10 PM, dlgertz <dlgertz@...> wrote:

I want to replace the QSI decoder in my used BLI Mikado HO301e05 C (2004) with a Tsunami 2, TSU-2200 and a current keeper. BLI no longer supports this model and I don’t know the wiring harness configuration between the tender and engine. Does anyone know which wires are which? Also do I replace the entire board or just part of it?
 
I tried programming the address using JRMI, but lost the lights and sound and was told by BLI that this decoder is not JMRI compatible. I was able to set it back to factory settings.
 
Thanks,
Don Gertz
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: kjlovesya via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 8:17 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Older QSI decoder
 
Hi Morgan,

  Your situation is exactly the purpose of this forum.  We are here to help.    I suggest going through the Revolution U - users guide first.   Obviously, it's for the Revolution U decoder installation, but there are many programming examples of CVs you should know.   Skim the actual installation (wiring) information and focus intently on the programming CV instructions.   There is some very helpful information within (and the users guide is relatively small).

  If you have trouble - reread the section.   If you still have trouble ask the forum.   We are here to help.   :-)      You can do this.  Put the effort in.  It will come to you.   You'll get it.


Best regards,
KJ 

 
<2626EC1EEC454E34AD8882641254EF8D.png>


Re: Older QSI decoder

dlgertz <dlgertz@...>
 

I want to replace the QSI decoder in my used BLI Mikado HO301e05 C (2004) with a Tsunami 2, TSU-2200 and a current keeper. BLI no longer supports this model and I don’t know the wiring harness configuration between the tender and engine. Does anyone know which wires are which? Also do I replace the entire board or just part of it?

 

I tried programming the address using JRMI, but lost the lights and sound and was told by BLI that this decoder is not JMRI compatible. I was able to set it back to factory settings.

 

Thanks,

Don Gertz

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: kjlovesya via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 8:17 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Older QSI decoder

 

Hi Morgan,

  Your situation is exactly the purpose of this forum.  We are here to help.    I suggest going through the Revolution U - users guide first.   Obviously, it's for the Revolution U decoder installation, but there are many programming examples of CVs you should know.   Skim the actual installation (wiring) information and focus intently on the programming CV instructions.   There is some very helpful information within (and the users guide is relatively small).

  If you have trouble - reread the section.   If you still have trouble ask the forum.   We are here to help.   :-)      You can do this.  Put the effort in.  It will come to you.   You'll get it.


Best regards,
KJ

 


Re: Older QSI decoder

 

KJ: Thanks a million. I love a pep talk. I will do what you suggest and be back here. Even if just to tell you I succeeded or failed and ask more questions.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

kjlovesya
 

Hi Morgan,

  Your situation is exactly the purpose of this forum.  We are here to help.    I suggest going through the Revolution U - users guide first.   Obviously, it's for the Revolution U decoder installation, but there are many programming examples of CVs you should know.   Skim the actual installation (wiring) information and focus intently on the programming CV instructions.   There is some very helpful information within (and the users guide is relatively small).

  If you have trouble - reread the section.   If you still have trouble ask the forum.   We are here to help.   :-)      You can do this.  Put the effort in.  It will come to you.   You'll get it.


Best regards,
KJ


Re: Older QSI decoder

 

Oh my gosh! That's my problem. Trying to understand those manuals. Totally WAY above my head. All Greek to me. But I will take the time and make another attempt at reading those. But the problem is not the manuals. It's my understanding the language. I am LOL because they are not "Greek", but I still have trouble. (A hate this analogy, and mean no offense to anyone outside the U.S. BUT: It's like talking to tech support and they are located outside the U.S. and they speak English, but as a dumb American, I don't always grasp what they say.) Or maybe I'm just not grasping the manual language because its technical. Is there anyone out there than can send me a xml of one of their QSI locos that I can copy and see what effect it has? <fan4pennsy at gmail>
--
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

kjlovesya
 

Hi Morgan(?),

  The version 7 decoder has (among other things) a 'variable brake'.   In order to use the working brake, one needs to have momentum values above 0 (zero) and BEMF turned on.   I highly recommend reading the QSI Revolution Users guide first (found here)   Revolution era (version 7) documentation       then the more complex Programming Related documents (on the same page).

Best regards,
KJ


Re: Older QSI decoder

Mike
 

JMRI and Sprog works well for QSI, I do all decoder types with this combination (except for ESU where I do have a programmer, but still do speed, volumes etc with the Sprog)

JMRI's pages give a good idea as the drop down settings give you the options for types of lights etc. So long as you keep a file of what works before changing anything you can always go back to known good settings. Then experiment, I've often had to play with lighting settings to get what I want, same with sound volumes. I do these on the main where you can see or hear the changes.

The function numbers for your loco should be in the loco's manual, you can change the key that operates them on the function map page. Tick the key (function) on the  vertical list, that operates the output on the horizontal list which should match with the manual's function number. I.e. if the bell is listed as function 2 in the manual and you want it on key 3, tick the 3 column on the function 3 row. Note function on the JMRI page means function key not the action the press causes.

For BEMF, if the loco is running well leave alone! BEMF will give better running especially at slow speeds. If you have problems with smooth running or the speed is not staying steady there are four speed ranges of controls, the speed steps they affect are shown on the BEMF page. Generally if you do need to adjust BEMF, reduce differential control to zero and adjust the proportional to get the best running, then add a bit of differential if it is still not running well, don't make big changes go up and down 10 or 20 at a time to find the best and then smaller amounts after that. Section 5.8.7.5 & 6 of the Quantum 7 manual gives advice. It's a long time since I set one up, but I can see in my loco roster that I didn't have much proportional or differential set, especially at higher speeds.

Hope this helps

Mike Ruby


Re: Older QSI decoder

 

Joó Ferenc: I sure appreciate the suggestion. But. I have limited funds available. And hesitate having to spend more money than I already have on model railroading. Especially DCC. I have found that it's far more expensive than DC. Even accounting for inflation and such. And since JMRI is basically free/requiring the cost of a PC and my SPROG. I do enjoy working with JMRI. It is far easier than trying to memorize CV's. Back when I started, and got my brain around CV 2,3,4,5,6 those were what I liked. When I tried going beyond and especially with QSI and CV 52.2 and such, I am stumped. That's why I ask my question today for a way I can hope for some success in figuring out functions. My DCS50 only has 8. And I don't know yet how to get them all working for me. I don't need fancy sounds like station calls or farm sounds. But I do want to work with steam engine sounds like brake squeal and such. And as I said, the manuals were a little over my head.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

Joó Ferenc
 

Probably your best bet is to get the Quantum Programmer, much easier to set up everything on the computer - although I myself have problems identifying some ports and what they can be programmed to if at all, with the FX-DO board...

Üdvözlettel,
Best regards,
MfG,

Ferenc Joó
Correspondent for Hungary
TREU - Today's Railways Europe
IRJ - International Railway Journal
GSM:   +36204141621

NOHAB Apartment
8263 Badacsonytördemic
Debreczenyi u. 9. / HUNGARY
"The holiday apartment on Lake Balaton
with its own garden railway!"


PennsyNut <fan4pennsy@...> ezt írta (időpont: 2021. jan. 2., Szo, 22:23):

Fair enough, Dave. So anyone else who has a little experience with the CV's. Not the common ones, but the ones unique to QSI. Tabs such as: function map, sound control, volume, function output, light control. And the "BEMF"? Is it even essential? My layout is flat, so it seems to me that the BEMF should be shut off. ? How to do that? You can see what a novice I am. And I realize that being a PRR modeler may be different, but if I can grasp the functions, I can make decisions. Thanks to any and all.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

 

Fair enough, Dave. So anyone else who has a little experience with the CV's. Not the common ones, but the ones unique to QSI. Tabs such as: function map, sound control, volume, function output, light control. And the "BEMF"? Is it even essential? My layout is flat, so it seems to me that the BEMF should be shut off. ? How to do that? You can see what a novice I am. And I realize that being a PRR modeler may be different, but if I can grasp the functions, I can make decisions. Thanks to any and all.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

Dave Hastings
 

Sorry, I do not mess around with steam locos, so I would be blind leading the blind so to speak.

Dave Hastings


On Friday, January 1, 2021, 06:16:16 PM EST, PennsyNut <fan4pennsy@...> wrote:


Sorry about being so late with this. I finally had to take it to a LHS and have it repaired. It was broken gears. So I now have it back and have it programmed on JMRI. I did some basic changes in CV's so that it runs nice. But I am totally confused by all the CV's. way more than I'm used to. So, is there a simple explanation for them? The manuals I have/all from the web site just don't have enough for a novice like me. And as for reset. I got a great explanation for that and it worked like a charm. I was getting frustrated with having to take the tender body off and playing with the "button". The answer is in the CV's. I forgot what they were, but if anyone needs me to, i can look them up and publish them here. Dave: It is a BLI PRR I1sa bought back in 2010. That's why I was on this forum because there isn't anywhere else. And I have nothing but high regards for y'all and the help I've gotten is tremendous. FYI IMHO the sound and control is great. As good as Paragon 2 or 3.
--
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Older QSI decoder

 

Sorry about being so late with this. I finally had to take it to a LHS and have it repaired. It was broken gears. So I now have it back and have it programmed on JMRI. I did some basic changes in CV's so that it runs nice. But I am totally confused by all the CV's. way more than I'm used to. So, is there a simple explanation for them? The manuals I have/all from the web site just don't have enough for a novice like me. And as for reset. I got a great explanation for that and it worked like a charm. I was getting frustrated with having to take the tender body off and playing with the "button". The answer is in the CV's. I forgot what they were, but if anyone needs me to, i can look them up and publish them here. Dave: It is a BLI PRR I1sa bought back in 2010. That's why I was on this forum because there isn't anywhere else. And I have nothing but high regards for y'all and the help I've gotten is tremendous. FYI IMHO the sound and control is great. As good as Paragon 2 or 3.
--
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.20, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Flashing headlight?

Joó Ferenc
 

Good idea, thank you!

Üdvözlettel,
Best regards,
MfG,

Ferenc Joó
Correspondent for Hungary
TREU - Today's Railways Europe
IRJ - International Railway Journal
GSM:   +36204141621

NOHAB Apartment
8263 Badacsonytördemic
Debreczenyi u. 9. / HUNGARY
"The holiday apartment on Lake Balaton
with its own garden railway!"


Lou <tpwillie@...> ezt írta (időpont: 2020. dec. 29., K, 14:34):

Try setting up the head light as a ditch light that is on all the time. Of you have dual headlights maybe you could set the up as alternating lights.
Lou 


On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 6:59 PM Joó Ferenc <ferencj@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I was wondering if it was possible to have a headlight flash when the horn sound is activated on a Titan O scale or G scale decoder.

What I want to do is have the headlight (or twin headlights) on an SD45 that has no ditch lights flash when using the horn or the grade crossing sound function.

By looking at the headlight feature in Quantum Programmer, I see no way of discontinuing the constant light and replacing with another feature when a function button is hit.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

Üdvözlettel,
Best regards,
MfG,

Ferenc Joó
Correspondent for Hungary
TREU - Today's Railways Europe
IRJ - International Railway Journal
GSM:   +36204141621

NOHAB Apartment
8263 Badacsonytördemic
Debreczenyi u. 9. / HUNGARY
"The holiday apartment on Lake Balaton
with its own garden railway!"


Re: Flashing headlight?

Lou
 

Try setting up the head light as a ditch light that is on all the time. Of you have dual headlights maybe you could set the up as alternating lights.
Lou 


On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 6:59 PM Joó Ferenc <ferencj@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I was wondering if it was possible to have a headlight flash when the horn sound is activated on a Titan O scale or G scale decoder.

What I want to do is have the headlight (or twin headlights) on an SD45 that has no ditch lights flash when using the horn or the grade crossing sound function.

By looking at the headlight feature in Quantum Programmer, I see no way of discontinuing the constant light and replacing with another feature when a function button is hit.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

Üdvözlettel,
Best regards,
MfG,

Ferenc Joó
Correspondent for Hungary
TREU - Today's Railways Europe
IRJ - International Railway Journal
GSM:   +36204141621

NOHAB Apartment
8263 Badacsonytördemic
Debreczenyi u. 9. / HUNGARY
"The holiday apartment on Lake Balaton
with its own garden railway!"


Flashing headlight?

Joó Ferenc
 

Hi All,

I was wondering if it was possible to have a headlight flash when the horn sound is activated on a Titan O scale or G scale decoder.

What I want to do is have the headlight (or twin headlights) on an SD45 that has no ditch lights flash when using the horn or the grade crossing sound function.

By looking at the headlight feature in Quantum Programmer, I see no way of discontinuing the constant light and replacing with another feature when a function button is hit.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

Üdvözlettel,
Best regards,
MfG,

Ferenc Joó
Correspondent for Hungary
TREU - Today's Railways Europe
IRJ - International Railway Journal
GSM:   +36204141621

NOHAB Apartment
8263 Badacsonytördemic
Debreczenyi u. 9. / HUNGARY
"The holiday apartment on Lake Balaton
with its own garden railway!"


Re: CV Manager

Greg Elmassian
 

Dunno why a new topic was created to reply, especially when the last post was asking me a question.

See the original thread Pete, and also visit my page for tips on the driver install.

https://elmassian.com/index.php/dcc/specific-manufacturers/qsi-equipment/qsi-programmer-hw-a-sw

Greg


Re: Questions on using CV 51.15 System Pitch Shift

Greg Elmassian
 

The driver for the programmer works fine on windows 10, you just need to follow the instructions. I have instructions on my site.

The program itself CVManager and CVUpdate work perfectly on all versions of Windows.

There are some poor driver installation instructions out there, and windows 10 can be a pain to convince it to allow the driver, but the driver is a one time install.

And take note of KJ's comment that the NCE command station can run CVManager (but you need the QSI programmer to load sound files)

Greg


CV Manager

Nick
 

Pete,

FYI, the link to the software and sound files is located here.
https://shedaker.wixsite.com/shedaker/applications

Also, I use Windows 10 Pro 32 bit on my laptop and have 100% success with both installation and using the QSI programmer. I have seen a LOT of different comments on both sides but all I did was follow the instructions and it worked. I have used it on machines with XP Pro, Windows 7 Pro, and Windows 10 Pro.

One other option is JMRI DecoderPro. This FREE software works to ONLY program decoders, including QSI. It works with almost any OS and it has a huge membership to help with all of it's different functions. The ONLY software capable of CHANGING sound files in a QSI decoder requires both their software and programmer. But if all you want to do is to change CVs , addresses, speed curves, volume, lights, functions, etc. DecoderPro will work fine.

Cheers,
Nick Kulp
**********************
 

From: Pete Hendel
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 17:04:42 EST

Greg,
The name CVManager sounds familiar.  Who developed it and where can one get more info on the capabilities and features.
Thanks.

Pete
****************************************


Re: Questions on using CV 51.15 System Pitch Shift

kjlovesya
 

   You make a good point.  However, it is a challenge to make user friendly a sophisticated device, such as a QSI Titan sound decoder.  The complication is of necessity.   I think QSI has done a very good job in conveying the information.   Before reading the QSI manual I knew nothing about specific CV manipulation.    Not everyone learns at the same speed and this forum is all about addressing specific questions.  The original post was asking specific questions, clarifying issues that some users have no desire to learn.  

   Fortunately, we are able to manage C.V.s relatively easy using CV Manager or JMRI Decoder Pro. 

   JMRI Decoder Pro will work on current QSI Titan version 9 firmware.   When opening a new file, you merely select either the Titan Steam or Titan diesel (unless it's an early EMD hood unit you don't get to select the correct model) but all of the correct relative C.V.s become available.   JMRI will simply incorrectly label the locomotive type in it's file.  Not a big deal!

   QSI's free download, CV Manager, may be run using either the QSI programmer (black box).  Alternately, CV Manager can be run through an NCE command station connected to the computer or Powercab with USB interface connected to the computer.


Best regards,
KJ

381 - 400 of 19078