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Introducing the QSIndustries (QSI) Yahoo Group

Pat Quinn <quinn1947@...>
 

I am Pat Quinn. I am co-founder and co-owner of QSIndustries, Inc. -
aka QSI ® in the model railroad industry. I want to welcome the model
railroad community to this group. This group can serve as a great
place to discuss how to get the most out of QSI products. It will
also create a reliable link to the owners of QSI. We are always
interested in how to do a better job in creating and delivering
innovations to our hobby.

QSI is currently unfolding the introduction of our Quantum ™ Sound
and Control System. This is an OEM product that is just beginning to
show up in most of the leading HO train manufacturers' engines. QSI
also makes a line of products for the 3-rail community as well as a
trackside sound system marketed as MaxxTraxx ™. QSI also produces a
line of environmental soundscape products called SoundBloxx ™, and an
after-market sound system called QS3000 ™. Many products are
available though Walthers, your local dealers, or factory direct (503-
350-0595). The company website is

I want to thank you for joining this discussion group and especially
for the support you have given to our products. We at QSI look
forward to doing the best we can. I encourage you to try to resolve
as many issues as you can among yourselves. This will further
strengthen the already-strong bond within this community. I will be
on hand to get involved when it appears necessary. I am always
listening. Thanks again, and Happy Railroading!

Sincerely,

Pat Quinn
QSI

Question

brfriedm <brfriedm@...>
 

Thanks Pat for starting this group!

Will QSI be releasing a seperate set of sound decoders(Diesel and
Steam) for HO?

Thanks.

Bruce Friedman

BLI PRR T1 whistle

Jeff Warner <jeff@...>
 

Pat/all:

Is there a way to get a good SHORT whistle on this loco? It seems
like it is a cut off sound when you try it. (Using Digitrax Chief and
DCC). Longer whistles are fine, but grade crossings are
long-long-short-long...

Thanks,

Jeff Warner

Re: Question

Pat Quinn <quinn1947@...>
 

Likely. We are very busy right now dealing with the introduction of
Quantum OEM and other corporate issues. However, we are actively
evaluating what an after-market program might look like for HO sound
systems. It is interesting that the initial interest about QSI after
market appears to be coming from the DCC community. Quantum will also
fully operate on your conventional as-is HO layout. I would think it
would be _these_ people who might be most desperate for after-market
sound. We will keep you posted as details develop. Thanks for the
interest. -pq

--- In QSIndustries@..., "brfriedm" <brfriedm@c...> wrote:
Thanks Pat for starting this group!

Will QSI be releasing a seperate set of sound decoders(Diesel and
Steam) for HO?

Thanks.

Bruce Friedman

MTH and aftermarket units

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Thank you Pat for the formation of this group.
First question and it's a tough one. What can you tell us about the MTH
affair that won't infringe on any legal proceeding or, of course things that
must be kept quiet, that might be in process? I can understand that you
might not be able to say anything!

It is interesting that the initial interest about QSI after market appears
to be coming from the DCC community.<
While I have heard that 3/4 of the buyers of BLI engines are run on DC I
would think that the only people that are _really_ interested in the
aftermarket system would be for DCC. Pricing could be very important!
Example, there are a lot of P2K diesels out there that could use sound
units.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief/Zephyr systems
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: Question

brfriedm <brfriedm@...>
 

Pat,

The DCC market naturally likes all the technology and bells and
whistles. We are the ones(DCC dudes) who got sound first in the HO
world. The introduction of BLI with a dual mode sound system changed
that. Bottom line, we need more products from other vendors that
gives us choices. Please give us another choice! I think you will be
suprised at the sales volumes you may get on such a line. Good luck.

Bruce

--- In QSIndustries@..., "Pat Quinn" <quinn1947@y...>
wrote:
Likely. We are very busy right now dealing with the introduction
of
Quantum OEM and other corporate issues. However, we are actively
evaluating what an after-market program might look like for HO
sound
systems. It is interesting that the initial interest about QSI
after
market appears to be coming from the DCC community. Quantum will
also
fully operate on your conventional as-is HO layout. I would think
it
would be _these_ people who might be most desperate for after-
market
sound. We will keep you posted as details develop. Thanks for the
interest. -pq


--- In QSIndustries@..., "brfriedm" <brfriedm@c...>
wrote:
Thanks Pat for starting this group!

Will QSI be releasing a seperate set of sound decoders(Diesel
and
Steam) for HO?

Thanks.

Bruce Friedman

Re: Question

rod@...
 

Please let me add to the call for a version of your sound system that
will work with DCC.

To stay away from the learning curve of the decoder "boilerplate", you
could provide something like the Soundtraxx DSX or team with a current
decoder manufacturer.

The DSX model gives you multi-scale cababilities and doesn't hook you
into learning about motor control along with, at the same time,
adopting new features being built into the standards.

Rod


The DCC market naturally likes all the technology and bells and
whistles. We are the ones(DCC dudes) who got sound first in the HO
world. The introduction of BLI with a dual mode sound system changed
that. Bottom line, we need more products from other vendors that
gives us choices. Please give us another choice! I think you will be
suprised at the sales volumes you may get on such a line. Good luck.

Bruce

--- In QSIndustries@..., "Pat Quinn" <quinn1947@y...>
wrote:
Likely. We are very busy right now dealing with the introduction
of
Quantum OEM and other corporate issues. However, we are actively
evaluating what an after-market program might look like for HO
sound
systems. It is interesting that the initial interest about QSI
after
market appears to be coming from the DCC community. Quantum will
also
fully operate on your conventional as-is HO layout. I would think
it
would be _these_ people who might be most desperate for after-
market
sound. We will keep you posted as details develop. Thanks for the
interest. -pq


--- In QSIndustries@..., "brfriedm" <brfriedm@c...>
wrote:
Thanks Pat for starting this group!

Will QSI be releasing a seperate set of sound decoders(Diesel
and
Steam) for HO?

Thanks.

Bruce Friedman




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Re: Question

Jeff Warner <jeff@...>
 

Pat:

Let me add one more opinion. It is the serious prototype modelers who most want/need sound. 95% of these people in HO and N scales use DCC. I personally have 20+ Soundtraxx units (mostly diesel, but a few steam) and I will need about 20 more sometime in the next few years (as finances allow). I would seriously look at a QSI DCC sound decoder if it were available as I feel it is a higher quality sound than Soundtraxx offers at this time. The only question would be is it in the same price range. I'm sure many others feel the same way (judging by responses on the Soundtraxx and Digitrax lists).

The DCC crowd is much more likely to buy in quantity than the casual DC users also. A lot of us have a fleet of locomotives to equip (50-100 or more) in order to operate our layouts...

Baldwin diesel sound would be a welcome addition as it is not currently available anywhere else. So far, I've been very impressed with your steam whistles over the competitions (with the possible exception of he inability to get a short blast on the PRR T1). The ability to control each sound individually with a seperate CV is also very welcomed. It's really frustrating to have to raise the bell volume to get a louder whistle...

Jeff Warner

Re: MTH and aftermarket units

Pat Quinn <quinn1947@...>
 

You are correct that I am not able to discuss most of the details. I
understand the intense interest this subject has in the railroading
community – it's almost better than reality TV.

Quick Review:

MTH filed a patent applications which were issued :

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=5
0&s1=6,619,594.WKU.&OS=PN/6,619,594&RS=PN/6,619,594

and also:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-
adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&p=1&p=1&S1=6,655,640.WKU.&OS=PN/6,655,640&
RS=PN/6,655,640

The claims appear to relate to the use of speed control, synchronized
smoke and other things in model railroading.
These patents contain claims that impact products that various
manufacturers are interested in making. In some cases, products may
be withheld, may be modified, or may continue while the validity of
these patents is examined. Different companies are adopting different
strategies.

There are many of us who believe these patents may have been granted
without a sufficiently broad review of prior art. Companies must be
careful about how they progress, and we all hope you will be
understanding of the necessary steps each takes as this unfolds. If
you believe you have strong, definitive evidence toward demonstrating
that unexamined prior art exists for these patents, I would
appreciate knowing about it.

Specific details about how things are going will need to wait until
meaningful, certain, non-confidential developments can be shared.
Thanks for you interest on this subject.



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--- In QSIndustries@..., "Jon Miller" <atsf@i...> wrote:
Thank you Pat for the formation of this group.
First question and it's a tough one. What can you tell us
about the MTH
affair that won't infringe on any legal proceeding or, of course
things that
must be kept quiet, that might be in process? I can understand
that you
might not be able to say anything!

It is interesting that the initial interest about QSI after market
appears
to be coming from the DCC community.<
While I have heard that 3/4 of the buyers of BLI engines are
run on DC I
would think that the only people that are _really_ interested in the
aftermarket system would be for DCC. Pricing could be very
important!
Example, there are a lot of P2K diesels out there that could
use sound
units.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief/Zephyr systems
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Question about T1

Lawrence E. Colacicco <gp305513@...>
 

Dear Group,

 

I received my T1 last week and brought it to our club layout to run. We have a Digitrax Chief and are using DT400 IR throttles.

I started out running the loco at the default address of “03” with no problems. I later programmed the loco in Ops mode to the 4 digit address of “5533” to coincide with the loco address. All was okay until the loco derailed the leading truck at a set of switch points.

 

We heard the accompanying “three beeps” and the then booster reset. There were two other locos on the layout that were running at the same time, obviously different addresses with no problem after reset. My T1 went dead. It would not respond to throttle input of any type. It would intermittently emit some sound but would shut down after a brief time.

 

I did the decoder reset by following the troubleshooting guide by removing the tender shell (this is really fun the first time) and removing the jumper and shutting off and turning on the power to the tracks as described.

 

The loco should have returned to factory defaults. It would not respond to the “03” address. I reprogrammed the “5533” address and it responded to this. But I am getting the “three beeps” intermittently as the loco travels over a switch.

 

Anyone have any suggestions as to what happened and what is causing the momentary short circuit?

 

Regards,

 

Larry Colacicco

 

 

·          


New poll for QSIndustries

QSIndustries@...
 

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
QSIndustries group:

QSI would like to know how you run your
HO trains

o DC (conventional) only
o DCC only
o Both DC and DCC
o DC at home DCC at a club
o I collect (don't operate)


To vote, please visit the following web page:

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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

O scale products?

dave b
 

Hi Pat, Are you going to be offering any diesel sound modules for
O scale(not 3 rail O gauge) that will work with DCC(sound seperate
from the motor decoder would be preferred)? ....dave

BLI Hudson

Paul <queenscup11@...>
 

First let me say THANK YOU !!!! My first introduction to your product
was the Broadway Limited Hudson with QSI Sound. It Spoiled me. The
range and effects offered is the best I have ever seen or heard for
that matter.

I run all DCC Digitraxx Super Empire system. The QSI decoder is great.
Keep up the great work guys. You hit the nail on the head with Quatum
sound.

Paul
Austin,TX
late Steam era
Freelance HO

A suggestion; Don't forget the N scale market

Jim Hoover
 

Thanks for starting this group, I'm sure I'll learn a lot from it.

As an interested and involved N scaler and DCC user, it seems to me
the market for sound units for N scale (currently mostly DCC, but DC
would do well I'd think) has been steadily on the rise for a while
now as DCC is getting a very good foothold in the N scale world and
people look for what else can be done in the scale to enhance their
railroading.

I must admit I haven't looked into the details of the current QSI
product range so don't know yet what may or may not already have some
applicability for N scale but I will, I'd hate to be missing out on
something that I could make use of.

I guess I would simply suggest that the N scale market be kept in
mind when the subject of product development comes up. SoundTraxx
introduced their DSD-090 family of DCC sound decoders that did a lot
for N scalers and HOn3 modelers with small locos, similarly small
sound units could be a good growth market for QSI.

I'm modifying a SoundTraxx sound-only decoder (a DSX) to be small
enough to fit in an Nn3 tender so I'm willing to go to a fair amount
of work to get the best sound I can devise and some other Nn3
modelers are using the DSD-090s in tenders large enough to fit them.
Granted this is at the very small end of the scale but maybe it goes
to prove that sound is desired in N scale as much as any other scale.

Looking forward to the future,
Jim Hoover

Smoke * Steam Engines

E.T. Halloran
 

Using the QSI sound decoder and its many unique funtions/effects and
animation can the smoke unit be throttled up when the steam engine
has been turned off (throttle) by pushing funtion number nine(9) two
times. When the throttle is turned up and the engine does not move
will the smoke unit still respond to the speed step on the throttle.
As of present I use two(2) decoders to get this effect; having engine
sitting still but able to independently control smoke unit for
maximum effect. Any thoughts on this approach and or expeirence?
I have also noticed that the BLI and the Lionel steam engines have a
different use for funtion #9. Will the future BLI's be the same as
the new Lionel challenger as far as funtion #9 is concerened? The
Diesel BLI's use funtion #9 (same as Lionel steam) to control
different stages of engine stand-down; "ecellent effect." Will all
future QSI installations be the same configurations regardless of
what (engine) manufacture use them (QSI)?

Terry

Re: O scale products?

Pat Quinn <quinn1947@...>
 

There is not a lot of significant difference electrically between
the operation of O-scale and HO. QSI has not set any specifics about
Quantum aftermarket products. As we do so, we will keep the O-scale
market in mind, for sure. Oh, one big difference - engine size. You
O-scalers will enjoy deeper sound out of your Quantum system. The
maximum sound level will likely be (God forbid) louder as well.
-pq




--- In QSIndustries@..., "ctxmf74" <ctxm@i...> wrote:
Hi Pat, Are you going to be offering any diesel sound modules
for
O scale(not 3 rail O gauge) that will work with DCC(sound seperate
from the motor decoder would be preferred)? ....dave

Re: A suggestion; Don't forget the N scale market

Pat Quinn <quinn1947@...>
 

Thanks for the input, Jim. N-Scale is a rapidly growing market, for
sure. QSI needs to develop some missing technology to produce a unit
that will perform well. It is, of course all about size. It is also
about price. To work cost-effectively at an OEM level at that size
requires some pretty fancy stuff. I do have a plan. The time for
this has not yet arrived at QSI, but we are working toward it. -pq

---------------------------------------------------------


--- In QSIndustries@..., "Jim Hoover" <mikadokid@a...>
wrote:
Thanks for starting this group, I'm sure I'll learn a lot from it.

As an interested and involved N scaler and DCC user, it seems to
me
the market for sound units for N scale (currently mostly DCC, but
DC
would do well I'd think) has been steadily on the rise for a while
now as DCC is getting a very good foothold in the N scale world
and
people look for what else can be done in the scale to enhance
their
railroading.

I must admit I haven't looked into the details of the current QSI
product range so don't know yet what may or may not already have
some
applicability for N scale but I will, I'd hate to be missing out
on
something that I could make use of.

I guess I would simply suggest that the N scale market be kept in
mind when the subject of product development comes up. SoundTraxx
introduced their DSD-090 family of DCC sound decoders that did a
lot
for N scalers and HOn3 modelers with small locos, similarly small
sound units could be a good growth market for QSI.

I'm modifying a SoundTraxx sound-only decoder (a DSX) to be small
enough to fit in an Nn3 tender so I'm willing to go to a fair
amount
of work to get the best sound I can devise and some other Nn3
modelers are using the DSD-090s in tenders large enough to fit
them.
Granted this is at the very small end of the scale but maybe it
goes
to prove that sound is desired in N scale as much as any other
scale.

Looking forward to the future,
Jim Hoover

Re: MTH and aftermarket units

Pat Quinn <quinn1947@...>
 

Be sure to slurp up the entire 3 (or 4) lines of those uspto links
and paste them into your browser. Don't just click on the blue part.
Aparently this Yahoo interface only accepts one-line URL's. -pq
---------------------------------------------------------------


--- In QSIndustries@..., "Pat Quinn" <quinn1947@y...>
wrote:
You are correct that I am not able to discuss most of the details.
I
understand the intense interest this subject has in the
railroading
community – it's almost better than reality TV.

Quick Review:

MTH filed a patent applications which were issued :

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=
5
0&s1=6,619,594.WKU.&OS=PN/6,619,594&RS=PN/6,619,594

and also:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-
adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&p=1&p=1&S1=6,655,640.WKU.&OS=PN/6,655,640
&
RS=PN/6,655,640

The claims appear to relate to the use of speed control,
synchronized
smoke and other things in model railroading.
These patents contain claims that impact products that various
manufacturers are interested in making. In some cases, products
may
be withheld, may be modified, or may continue while the validity
of
these patents is examined. Different companies are adopting
different
strategies.

There are many of us who believe these patents may have been
granted
without a sufficiently broad review of prior art. Companies must
be
careful about how they progress, and we all hope you will be
understanding of the necessary steps each takes as this unfolds.
If
you believe you have strong, definitive evidence toward
demonstrating
that unexamined prior art exists for these patents, I would
appreciate knowing about it.

Specific details about how things are going will need to wait
until
meaningful, certain, non-confidential developments can be shared.
Thanks for you interest on this subject.



-----------------------------------------------------------
--- In QSIndustries@..., "Jon Miller" <atsf@i...>
wrote:
Thank you Pat for the formation of this group.
First question and it's a tough one. What can you tell us
about the MTH
affair that won't infringe on any legal proceeding or, of course
things that
must be kept quiet, that might be in process? I can understand
that you
might not be able to say anything!

It is interesting that the initial interest about QSI after
market
appears
to be coming from the DCC community.<
While I have heard that 3/4 of the buyers of BLI engines are
run on DC I
would think that the only people that are _really_ interested in
the
aftermarket system would be for DCC. Pricing could be very
important!
Example, there are a lot of P2K diesels out there that could
use sound
units.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief/Zephyr systems
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Sound for my fleet

hunter48820
 

Hi Pat and All,
I want to thank you for starting this group. I'm NCE DCC
and have a fleet of about 250 locomotives (mid 50s era) and
it's climbing.

Most all of the road power will be in sets of three and I
will be decodering the lead and trailing units only. The
center unit will be gutted and will carry a sound system
with speakers as large as possible that will be placed the
both ends of the body.

I will also have a fleet of about two dozen steam engines.

I have not purchased any sound systems yet but will start in
the near future. I'm anxiously waiting to see what the future
will bring since I don't like the idea of SoundTraxx owning
and controlling the majority of the aftermarket business.

Thanks and best,

Andy Keeney
Dewitt, MI

http://community.webshots.com/user/hunter48820

2-8-2 backup light?

roanokeandsouthern <jkraker@...>
 

Is there a way to add a backup light to the USRA heavy mike?