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BLI Cab-Forward, SD40-2, & NW2/SW7 sounbytes uploaded!
valisysmm <valisysmm@...>
Hi All,
Just thought I would pass along that I noticed the Broadway Limited has uploaded soundbytes of the AC-4/AC-5 Cab-Forward! http://www.broadway-limited.com/products/spcabforward.htm They have also uploaded sounbytes to the SD40-2 http://www.broadway-limited.com/products/sd4000.htm and the NW2/SW7 http://www.broadway-limited.com/products/emdswitch.htm -Mike
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Yes, Zimo is a really good and very expensive system.
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Re: BLI E-7 Bell?
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Many E7s had these types of decoder problems. Enough that it's
mentioned on the BLI site to do a reset as shown at the back of the booklet.
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
denlippert <denlippert@...>
--- In QSIndustries@yahoogroups.com, ARRJERRY@A... wrote:
Using the same procedure with QSI decoders does not allow theAll trailing units should act the same if their CV21/22 are set to the same values. The only reason the LEAD unit acts differently than the trailers, is that the DCC command station knows to send function commands to the "normal" address of the leader. Den
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Re: New poll for QSIndustries
denlippert <denlippert@...>
--- In QSIndustries@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Warner <jeff@p...> wrote:
What "additional equipment" would it be? Is there going to beThis would be a big question-mark for me. As a Mac guy, a standard serial connection to a PC" is more-or-less useless! I'd like to think of something along the lines of the new "keychain USB memory devices" would be great... you could plug it into a PC (or Mac) to put files on it... then plug it into the decoder (with a less-bulky plug adapter!) and the decoder would AUTOMATICALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. This is how a firmware upgrade on my Minolta digital camera worked. I just downloaded the needed files from the 'web and stuck them onto a CompactFlash memory card. When I put that card into the camera and turned it on, the camera saw the new files that needed to be installed, and it did it. Of course, I'm just a "big picture guy"... no idea how it would be implemented, or if it's even cost-effective or size-compatible with the goal!! 8-) I would think these decoders should have a "default" whistle,people will NOT go to the trouble and don't care Absolutely. I'd put in generic sounds (maybe make a choice of a few whistles and such), but allow the user to "upgrade" or replace them with downloadable stuff. I also like the idea of "dealer-installed" sounds... for those who would LIKE the custom sound, but have no desire to DIY... Den
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Re: BLI E-7 Bell?
Eric Minton <train@...>
At 10:34 AM 2/27/2004, you wrote: Ideas? Try the hard reset described in the book. the first GG1 I saw had problems with programing that went away with this proccess has worked perfectly since.
Mahalo - Thanks
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jens Wulf \(WRF\) <jens.wulf@...>
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-----Original Message-----add the Zimo MX1 station. Unfortunately the system is out of my budget :( /jw
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BLI E-7 Bell?
Larry Rice <lrice@...>
Greetings,
A neighbor brought over two BLI E 7's for setup and initial testing on my NCE system. One, number 500, worked flawlessly from the outset. The other, number 512, has two imperfections... 1. Prime mover sounds cut in and out abruptly until the operator reaches speed step four on any of my NCE throttles. In fact, the prime mover/exhaust sound is almost completely absent until step four. 2. The bell sound is missing, though we do hear the momentary air noise that one would expect upon bell activation. The bell was working initially, but it "just went away" at some point. Repeatedly activating F8 mute isn't achieving anything. Ideas? Thanks, Larry Rice Port Townsend WA
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
a question to you: is your NCE system capable of operating F9 to F12?a question to all: anybody able to trick the EasyDCC system to transmit F9 to F12< My understanding is that only Digitrax has F9 -- F12. I also have been reminded by Stan Ames that these functions are now RPs. I believe that capability of a system to use these functions is in the system software. NCE systems have the buttons on their controls but they are non-functional until a software update occurs. Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
bb4024 <tjones@...>
--- In QSIndustries@yahoogroups.com, "Jens Wulf \(WRF\)"
<jens.wulf@w...> wrote: CV21/CV22-----Original Message----- (and EasyDCC) F12? No NCE currently does not support F9 thru F12, however there is a much awaited eprom update due out soon which "should" (the operable word) address the added functions.
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jens Wulf \(WRF\) <jens.wulf@...>
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-----Original Message-----that was what I was going to test next (later tonight) in a "more scientific way" so to speak ;o) I just wanted to know my environment. From the loose experiments I did before I *THINK NOW* I could *NOT* wake them up using the Cv19 address. But back then I was also confused were and when which functions were controlled, it didn't look right for an advanced consist, well it looks like this is standard. Ok?! Anyway, now I know how my station is operating with advanced consists. That's the base for the more important Cv19 issue testing. IMHO. That's next ... a question to you: is your NCE system capable of operating F9 to F12? a question to all: anybody able to trick the EasyDCC system to transmit F9 to F12, maybe via (PC) software. DecoderPro? /jw
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
bb4024 <tjones@...>
--- In QSIndustries@yahoogroups.com, "Jens Wulf \(WRF\)"
<jens.wulf@w...> wrote: directly programming CV19 und use that address as a loco. Only then CV21/CV22 of any decoder including QSI's are become active. A question. Is your EasyDC able to startup a consist of locos using the CV19 address or do you have to start them first then the CV19 will control all CV21/22 functions. My Northcoast will not turn the consist on from CV19, but like I said before will work once the engines are turned on. tj
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jens Wulf \(WRF\) <jens.wulf@...>
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-----Original Message-----I didn't say otherwise! I posted the different ways one can do function control with advanced consists, with or without support of the CV21/CV22. These work in the QSI decoders and the same way as they work with all the other decoders which do support CV21/CV22. And that is what the subject is about: CV21/CV22. Not about consisting in general. Whichs just means they (CV21/CV22 of the QSI decoders) work. But there're only one way to make them (CV21/CV22) active with an EasyDCC station, and that is *NOT* to use the station setup (SETUP Y) but to use more less the "Atlas Commander way" of directly programming CV19 und use that address as a loco. Only then CV21/CV22 of any decoder including QSI's are become active. /jw PS: and I will be a post at least one message, about the Cv19 bug in the QSI decoders. but again, their CV21/22 work. Their Cv19 handling has a bug. which wasn't this post about.
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jens Wulf \(WRF\) <jens.wulf@...>
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-----Original Message-----
From: ARRJERRY@AOL.COM [mailto:ARRJERRY@AOL.COM] Sent: Friday, 27. February 2004 05:31 To: QSIndustries@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC) remember I (jw) wrote, as P.S.: PS: I have not tested the CV19 "coma" issue. I have just poweredyou wrote: Lets not confuse the QSI problem with other Advanced Consisting. [..] Advanced consisting is basic to DCC and we need to solve this problem. [jw] yes agree. we need to. See my PS above. This post was *NOT* about the CV19 problem with the QSI decoders. And there's an issue. Ther's *NO* problem with Cv21/Cv22 on QSI decoders. We should stop mixing these two issue. /jw
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jens Wulf \(WRF\) <jens.wulf@...>
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-----Original Message-----this one. SETUP Y. With EasyDCC version 416 I should say. This changed over time, but matches the manual for 418 consist number. If I call the loco number if setup that way I only have access to that loco's function, if at all, and not the consist /jw
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Re: New to this group
Bryan
Patrick,
You might want to start reviewing past message (start with the Poll listed as Message 66 and then read thru the various related messages occurring thereafter) I created that Poll in order to see just how many modelers would be interested in a surround sound system either in lieu of or in addition to mobile sound decoders. Approx. 44% of the poll respondents indicated that they would use a surround sound system. The failure of SoundTrax to market their SurroundSound system leaves an unfulfilled market opportunity wide open for an enterprising, aggressive, customer-friendly firm like QSI to move into and dominate!
Please make your desires known to QSI in this regard.
Eric Berman
aka SPPalmdale
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
ARRJERRY@...
In a message dated 2/26/2004 11:13:14 PM Central Standard Time, gerrymmr@... writes:
A1 - Press [Setup] [Consist] Gerry, When using Easy DCC, you use Y, provide the 2 digit consist # of your choice, than the loco's numbers (4 digit if you have them in the system that way), and finally, don't forget to reverse the direction if any of the loco's are running backwards. Jerry S.
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Payne,Brett <brett.payne@...>
Jens,
Your EasyDCC system is in fact working how it is supposed to (and how the NMRA standard is defined). There are really three types of consisting. The most basic one is to assign the decoders in all locomotives you want to consist to the same address. If they all have sound they will all do the same thing at the same time (lights, horn, dynamics, you name it...). The next two types of consisting are called standard and advanced. Standard consisting on EasyDCC places the consist configuration into a table in the command station. It uses the four digit lead locomotive address as the consist address by default and it "remembers" who the other locos in the consist are. The command station on receiving speed instructions for the lead locomotive also translates the speed instruction to the addresses of the other locomotives in the consist. According to the manual only the speed function is shared. The other functions (lights, sound, etc) only go to the lead locomotive. This form on consisting does not alter the decoder programming in any way. Advanced consisting on EasyDCC writes the consist information to BOTH a table in the command station AND to the decoders. The advanced consist numbering is two digit and is therefore independent of the locomotive number. The decoders are reprogrammed to be at the same "secondary" or consist address. Using CV21/22 etc you can configure how each locomotive performs when a given function is sent to the consist. For example you can get the lights to behave properly and with sound you can have the dynamic breaks start of all locos at the same time, or you can prevent a certain sound or light effect from happening. With an advanced consist set up at the decoder you can take your train set to another layout and theoretically you will be able to use it as a consist in exactly the same way. However as I said on EasyDCC the advanced consist is written to BOTH a command station table and to the respective decoders. If the EasyDCC system loses the data from it's command station table it will not work! You will need to "restore" the consist. To do this you simply recreate the consist on the command station. I presume this will also be the case if you take you advance consist to someone else's EasyDCC system. Note that if your memory back up battery is flat - you may lose consist data when you witch your system off. I hope this clarifies it for everyone. Brett Payne Message: 22 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jens Wulf <jens.wulf@worldrailfans.org> Subject: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC) sorry, to get back to this (all quiet here on this), so I make it short: I tried advanced consisting with my EasyDCC via - method a) the station organizing the adv. consist and - method b) the direct CV19 programming on the main with following decoders: - a pair of NCE DA-SR (version 3 EFX series decoder) - a pair of DigiTrax DH163IP (FX3 series decoder) - and a single TCS TH150DP decoder (all these have CV21 and CV22) and the result is: identical behavior and the same as with the QSI/BLI GG1 decoders: method a) only the lead loco reacts to function changes, ignoring all CV21/CV22 settings method b) all loco's in the (advanced) consist react to function changes according to CV21/CV22 settings
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Gerry Hopkins <gerrymmr@...>
Jens Wulf wrote:
sorry, to get back to this (all quiet here on this), so I makeA1 - Press [Setup] [Consist] or A2 - Press [Setup] [Y] and when you call up the consist do you use the consist number or lead loco number? Gerry =================================== Gerry Hopkins MMR http://www.users.bigpond.com/gerrymmr
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Re: beating up a the dead(?) horse: CV21/CV22 (and EasyDCC)
Jens Wulf <jens.wulf@...>
if my memory serves me, the DigiTrax FX3 decoders which do have
speed stabilization have two parameter sets for this: one for consists (to avoid the hunting effect) and one for running alone. And the only way the decoder knows it is consisted is when it is advanced-consisted (because of CV19 not 0). Now that's a policy(?) which makes my mind spin .... cheers/jw --- Jeff Warner <jeff@pennsyrr.com> wrote: Jens Wulf wrote:[snip]
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