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Re: QSI Revolution -U decoder corrupt firmware

Alex Stanojevic
 

Hello again,

After going back to the steps used to change sound file on Revolution-U, I am wondering if Windows 10 is the main culprit. It is possible that USB driver and Quantum Programmer program need to be updated to match latest version of Windows 10. Heads up!

Regards

Alex

On Nov 13, 2021, at 14:49, John Burkhardt <burkhj@...> wrote:

Alex,

 

Don’t feel lonely – I’ve got a whole bunch of OEM Q1 decoders piling up from customers who asked to replace the QSI with TS2. The decoder worked perfectly in the loco and as soon as I put them on the programmer via my ESU test stand I get this weird message   saying it Invalid MFG ID!

I dearly would like to know too how to get these decoders woken up again as currently our cheapest postage to the US is R1080 = US$80  

 

 

Thanks and warm regards,

 

John Burkhardt

South Africa

where the sun always shines,

and steam still reigns!

 

 

 

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io [mailto:QSIndustries@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Stanojevic
Sent: 13 November 2021 08:33 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] QSI Revolution -U decoder corrupt firmware

 

Hello all,
I had a mishap while attempting to change horn type in mu P2K GP30 diesel equipped with QSI Revolution-U decoder.

Decoder was running sound file 1100-1000V8-9-8.q2. I attempted to upload 1100 400V8.3.0.q2 file with Leslie S5-T horn.

I was using Quantum Upgrade software on a win10 professional PC. In the process of uploading something unusual happened. A window indicating progress of upload disappeared from the screen shortly after the process started. Quantum Programmer continued to blink green. After a while I decided to reset Quantum Programmer. Previously I checked for compatibility and it was given a pass. 

Once I got the programmer running again, system could not recognize the decoder. It would stop at 40% stating Invalid MFG ID 0.

Is there a quick way to refresh decoder firmware. Using reset to factory default did not work. Otherwise I will have to send it back to Kelly Dorf.

Thanks in advance,

Alex


--
John Burkhardt
South Africa
Where the sun always shines
and Steam still reigns!


Re: QSI Revolution -U decoder corrupt firmware

John Burkhardt
 

Alex,

 

Don’t feel lonely – I’ve got a whole bunch of OEM Q1 decoders piling up from customers who asked to replace the QSI with TS2. The decoder worked perfectly in the loco and as soon as I put them on the programmer via my ESU test stand I get this weird message   saying it Invalid MFG ID!

I dearly would like to know too how to get these decoders woken up again as currently our cheapest postage to the US is R1080 = US$80  

 

 

Thanks and warm regards,

 

John Burkhardt

South Africa

where the sun always shines,

and steam still reigns!

 

 

 

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io [mailto:QSIndustries@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Stanojevic
Sent: 13 November 2021 08:33 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] QSI Revolution -U decoder corrupt firmware

 

Hello all,
I had a mishap while attempting to change horn type in mu P2K GP30 diesel equipped with QSI Revolution-U decoder.

Decoder was running sound file 1100-1000V8-9-8.q2. I attempted to upload 1100 400V8.3.0.q2 file with Leslie S5-T horn.

I was using Quantum Upgrade software on a win10 professional PC. In the process of uploading something unusual happened. A window indicating progress of upload disappeared from the screen shortly after the process started. Quantum Programmer continued to blink green. After a while I decided to reset Quantum Programmer. Previously I checked for compatibility and it was given a pass. 

Once I got the programmer running again, system could not recognize the decoder. It would stop at 40% stating Invalid MFG ID 0.

Is there a quick way to refresh decoder firmware. Using reset to factory default did not work. Otherwise I will have to send it back to Kelly Dorf.

Thanks in advance,

Alex


--
John Burkhardt
South Africa
Where the sun always shines
and Steam still reigns!


QSI Revolution -U decoder corrupt firmware

Alex Stanojevic
 

Hello all,
I had a mishap while attempting to change horn type in mu P2K GP30 diesel equipped with QSI Revolution-U decoder.

Decoder was running sound file 1100-1000V8-9-8.q2. I attempted to upload 1100 400V8.3.0.q2 file with Leslie S5-T horn.

I was using Quantum Upgrade software on a win10 professional PC. In the process of uploading something unusual happened. A window indicating progress of upload disappeared from the screen shortly after the process started. Quantum Programmer continued to blink green. After a while I decided to reset Quantum Programmer. Previously I checked for compatibility and it was given a pass. 

Once I got the programmer running again, system could not recognize the decoder. It would stop at 40% stating Invalid MFG ID 0.

Is there a quick way to refresh decoder firmware. Using reset to factory default did not work. Otherwise I will have to send it back to Kelly Dorf.

Thanks in advance,

Alex


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

kjlovesya
 

Hi Ed,

Always verify with a meter, but yes, blue wire to +12 V and black w/white stripe to black wired capacitor is good.    You can check the black wire against the bridge rectifier - (ground) .   Two of the larger 'black block' diodes will be sharing the same - (ground).


Best regards,
KJ


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

Paul B/Indy
 

Many thanks!!

Paul


On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Greg Elmassian <greg@...> wrote:

go to the internet wayback machine... just google it...

then you put qsisolutions.com into it.... and then you can pick pages from a day/month/year (you see a calendar).

At that point you can usually see the web site and navigate.

I'm saying this because it is worth the effort how to use this tool.

http://qsisolutions.com/pdf/titan/Using_a_Lenz_Power_1_Module_with_a_Titan_U_Decoder.pdf

Greg


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

Greg Elmassian
 

go to the internet wayback machine... just google it...

then you put qsisolutions.com into it.... and then you can pick pages from a day/month/year (you see a calendar).

At that point you can usually see the web site and navigate.

I'm saying this because it is worth the effort how to use this tool.

http://qsisolutions.com/pdf/titan/Using_a_Lenz_Power_1_Module_with_a_Titan_U_Decoder.pdf

Greg


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

Ed.Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Greg,

OK, Thanks

I know where the +12V is so if I connect the Blue KA wire to the +12V and the black to the same pad that the small Caps Black is connected to shouldn't I be OK?

Thanks

Ed Sauers


On 11/11/2021 11:18 AM, Greg Elmassian wrote:
I went on the wayback machine, there was a one page hookup for the Titan U, not the A.

Greg


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

Paul B/Indy
 

Link please?

Paul B/Indy


On Nov 11, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Greg Elmassian <greg@...> wrote:

I went on the wayback machine, there was a one page hookup for the Titan U, not the A.

Greg


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

Greg Elmassian
 

I went on the wayback machine, there was a one page hookup for the Titan U, not the A.

Greg


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

bigfourroad
 

Your wish my command. See attached PDF.  Cheers,  Chris


J Chris Rooney CFA
Vanness Company
Tel: 904-280-1898
Fax: 904-280-1898
Email: Vannessco@...
Web: www.VannessCompany.com
On 11/11/2021 9:48 AM, Ed.Sauers wrote:

KJ,

Thanks, I thought there was a one page file on the Wix site that actually showed the soldering points.

Ed


On 11/11/2021 9:39 AM, kjlovesya via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ed,

  You can check the files section here.   I don't recall if the Titan A is included but the principles are the same.   You have to connect the Keep Alive device across the output of the full wave bridge rectifier.   Blue wire to +12V and Black with white striped wire to - (common ground).

  The Titan A has a relatively large soldering hole (feed through) near midway down the length of the board, close to one of the long sides.  It's clearly marked.

  The - side shares the same black wire as the small, wired, external capacitor.   You can verify these with a meter (highly recommended).


Best regards,
KJ


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

Ed.Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

KJ,

Thanks, I thought there was a one page file on the Wix site that actually showed the soldering points.

Ed


On 11/11/2021 9:39 AM, kjlovesya via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ed,

  You can check the files section here.   I don't recall if the Titan A is included but the principles are the same.   You have to connect the Keep Alive device across the output of the full wave bridge rectifier.   Blue wire to +12V and Black with white striped wire to - (common ground).

  The Titan A has a relatively large soldering hole (feed through) near midway down the length of the board, close to one of the long sides.  It's clearly marked.

  The - side shares the same black wire as the small, wired, external capacitor.   You can verify these with a meter (highly recommended).


Best regards,
KJ


Re: Tital-A Keep alive document

kjlovesya
 

Hi Ed,

  You can check the files section here.   I don't recall if the Titan A is included but the principles are the same.   You have to connect the Keep Alive device across the output of the full wave bridge rectifier.   Blue wire to +12V and Black with white striped wire to - (common ground).

  The Titan A has a relatively large soldering hole (feed through) near midway down the length of the board, close to one of the long sides.  It's clearly marked.

  The - side shares the same black wire as the small, wired, external capacitor.   You can verify these with a meter (highly recommended).


Best regards,
KJ


Tital-A Keep alive document

Ed.Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Group,

I thought there was a document on the WIX Site that defined how to connect a Two Wire KA (TCS KA3) to the Tital A boards bit I cannot find it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Ed Sauers


Re: keep alive in BLI Cattle car

peteski7
 

Ah, now you have a very long MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  Life is good!  :-)
Peteski


Re: keep alive in BLI Cattle car

gnguyincalifornia
 

Checked continuity and all was good.  soldered it up and it works great.  Cows keep mooing after I take it off the track.  Also, prevents sound hiccups when I go over dead frogs.

Thanks to KJ for identifying the two spots and Peteski for a way to verify before I smoke my decoder :)

Mike Stewart
Oakley, CA


Re: Does anyone in this group have any TITAN U decoders they want to sell?

Donald Goveas
 

Hello Kelly, 
I am interested in buying the Revolutions and Titans. Could you PM me the pricing and the quantity available for immediate dispatch.
Thank you.
Best regards
Donald

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 2:03 AM kelly dorf <kelly.dorf@...> wrote:
Hello Peter,

Sorry for the delay.    Anyhow, I am here all day.  How many do you want?

Kelly


Re: keep alive in BLI Cattle car

peteski7
 

Hi Mike,
Looks like you did figure it out correctly.  Here is my take on the circuit (which agrees with your earlier speculation).




Just to verify, take a ohmmeter or continuity tested and check whether there is a continuity (zero ohms) between the pairs of red and pairs of blue points (as shown in the photo). Also check if the capacitor's leads might be connected to the blue and red points. They might not be.  If the diodes are connected as shown then I'm pretty sure the keep-alive circuit can be connected to either of the blue and red points (diodes).  Red is + and blue -.  You could also power up the circuit and measure the voltage between blue and red. Should be around 12V DC when powered from DCC track.

Peteski


Re: Does anyone in this group have any TITAN U decoders they want to sell?

peterebherron
 

Kelly,

I was able to find some second hand. I had written you a long time ago about pricing and to get info about something we discussed back then, trading in Revolutions to be upgraded to Titans. I have 2 I would like to do that to. I’m pretty sure you mentioned it but it was so long ago and not on this forum that I cannot find the conversation. 

You could contact me off list so we don’t fill the forum pages up. 

Thanks for the reply and I’m glad you’re all doing well “sleepless in Seattle“!!!!

Peter


Re: Does anyone in this group have any TITAN U decoders they want to sell?

Ed.Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Group,

Sorry this msg was not meant for the group.

Ed Sauers

On 11/8/2021 5:54 PM, Ed.Sauers via groups.io wrote:

Peter,

I cannot get tracing info on the QSI programmer you sent to me in the USA, can you check the tracking and send me a update.

Thanks

Ed Sauers


On 11/5/2021 8:31 AM, peterebherron wrote:
I’ve not been successful trying to buy new so used will have to do.  Please contact me off list, thanks………..

Peter Herron 


Re: Does anyone in this group have any TITAN U decoders they want to sell?

Ed.Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Peter,

I cannot get tracing info on the QSI programmer you sent to me in the USA, can you check the tracking and send me a update.

Thanks

Ed Sauers


On 11/5/2021 8:31 AM, peterebherron wrote:
I’ve not been successful trying to buy new so used will have to do.  Please contact me off list, thanks………..

Peter Herron 

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