Date   

BLI Hudson cica 2001

joe.roszkowski8@...
 

I need some help locating a circuit board for subject loco.  While trying to replace the QSI chip with an upgraded version I broke the chip holder off the board.  Can anyone point me to where I can find a replacement?

Thx,


Re: Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.

Geoffrey Dobbin
 

Hi all,
Re contacting Kelly D.
 
I have   qsindustries224@...   from a couple of years ago. Was fine then.Don’t know about now.
 
 
Regards

Geoff
 

From: Ed.Sauers
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 10:58 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.
 

Jim,

Email Kelli Dorf directly at kelly.dorf@...

He takes awhile to get back to you sometimes....he's a one man show right now!!!

Ed Sauers

On 8/16/2021 4:58 PM, nillessr via groups.io wrote:
Has anyone been able to contact qsi?   I still want to purchase a new programmer,   Jim Nilles

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Re: sunset models gp9

Jim B
 

i programmed mine with Decoderpro and used QSI Titan Ver 8.     Everything programmed just fine.     I thought the instruction sheet mention "titan".    Now I think they may have reduced some of the sound options such as horns and prime movers since it was just for EMD, but not sure.


Re: Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.

peteski7
 

Unfortunately when the groups messages are viewed on the groups.io website, it hides the real email addresses in the messages. Not sure if this is the same when accessing the group via email.

Unless someone posts Kelly's address in a way that fools the automatic hiding of addresses, you will never know the full email address.

If someone would post that email address as  "kelly dot dorf at someaddress dot com" should bypass the automatic obfuscation. Of course then you will have to manually type the address replacing the "dot" and "at" with the actual characters.

Peteski


On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 06:08 PM, PennsyNut wrote:

I don't understand. When I click on "kelly.dorf@..." I don't get it. the "..." isn't enough.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


sunset models gp9

calvin.mitcham@...
 

i understand the current sunset o scale gp9 comes with a qsi decoder. does anyone know details of what it is? the "manual" link on the sunset website links to a pre-titan qsi manual.

thanks,
calvin.


Re: Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.

Al
 

Did anyone wanted to buy a QSI programmer? I have one that I will sell, do not need it anymore. Please send me an E-mail and we can work out the details.
Al Babinsky


Re: Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.

 

I don't understand. When I click on "kelly.dorf@..." I don't get it. the "..." isn't enough.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.

Ed.Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Jim,

Email Kelli Dorf directly at kelly.dorf@...

He takes awhile to get back to you sometimes....he's a one man show right now!!!

Ed Sauers

On 8/16/2021 4:58 PM, nillessr via groups.io wrote:
Has anyone been able to contact qsi?   I still want to purchase a new programmer,   Jim Nilles


Contacting qsi regarding purchasing a new programmer.

nillessr@...
 

Has anyone been able to contact qsi?   I still want to purchase a new programmer,   Jim Nilles


Re: Decoders

 

For some strange reason, I must have hit the subject with a "Q". And this thread transferred to that. I apologize. And this problem is solved. The solution was in JMRI. And just goes to show us that when someone/namely me, is ignorant of computers, the answer can escape most of us. So I must thank everyone and by no means, am criticizing anyone. Everyone on these forums are wonderful and helpful.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Q

 

I'm sorry to do this. But. What really happened is partially my stupidity - or ignorance. Yes, I do not understand DCC. I do not understand JMRI. I do not understand a lot of this stuff. Why? Because it's all related to a PC and PC's are not my favorite thing to be playing with. Most of the MR that I know of, do not get so involved in these idiosyncrasies of computers. With Digitrax/either the DCS50 or the UT4D, the whistle blew as it's supposed to - NON-latching. It was in JMRI that it was latching. So this thread was not what I should have been in. JMRI was the answer, but I didn't go to that forum either. I went to SPROG. And immediately received two solutions that either one would work. The problem was in JMRI, and actually had nothing to do with either Digitrax or SPROG. It is in JMRI: The easiest solution for those of you who might be interested and were following this thread: In the roster, In "actions", open "labels & media" simply uncheck "lock" by "whistle" and that's all. Of course, you then need to save to roster and write to decoder, etc. (This thanks to Peter Ulvestad!) So I apologize to y'all and in no way is criticism of anyone.

Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Q

peteski7
 

Morgan,
Since mid-80s I belong to the Northeast NTRAK club (in the New England part of the country - MA, NH, ME mostly).

Dave,  thanks for the detailed info about Josh. I didn't have the facts perfectly accurate, but the it seems that someone (Josh?) was a lot of the marketing and sound development, and after he left, things seemed to go dormant.  QSI decoders were at some point as popular as other sound decoders at the time.  Even manufacturers (like BLI and Walthers) used them in their models.  Online vendors (like Tony's Trains and others) had the QSI decoders in stock, just like they stocked other brands of  decoders.

Dave, and Al: while whatever remains of QSI is still in business, your posts just confirmed that at the current level or marketing the QSI decoders they will never got widely accepted.  Dealing directly with a one-man-operation, and getting all the support (including only old sound files) does not look promising as far as QSI becoming widely accepted. Then there is the problem with coreless motors.  When was the firmware updated, are new sound files produced?  Where is the website and social media presence?  All those things are pretty much required to be successful nowadays.  I recall recent posts here from Greg E. stating that he is trying to work with Josh behind the scenes, but we don't what will the outcome be.

We need to look the truth in the eye. Unless some new life is injected into the QSI product, they will stay a very narrow niche in the DCC sound decoders world.  Still, I like them, and will use them in some of my installs, but I don't expect other modelers jump onto the QSI bandwagon.

Peteski


Re: Decoders

 

Since this thread is now on "decoders". And your comments are on BLI as well as QSI. I will say this. From what I can tell, and makes sense. Is just what Dave alluded to. That BLI wanted to cheapen the decoder. Apparently QSI charged them too much. ?? And BLI thought they could do "just as well". And as we all know, they didn't. In fact, BLI has finally gotten to P 4. And I expect them to be at a P5 within a year. What do they think we are? Rich? I already have 4 P2. When I got the P3, I thought it was supposed to be better. And we find out, it still has bugs. In the forums that are not specifically BLI, there are a lot of people upset with them. For locos costing $400, you'd expect a better decoder. I am satisfied enough with mine, but as you said - you can't get the headlight to stay on whether forward or backward. Proto PRR had the headlight on all the time. And with all my BLI PRR steam, I can't do that. Very poor choice by BLI. Especially when they had the PRRTHS support when they produced the first I1 Decapod. I was part of the few that reviewed DeGolyer's library to research the Decapods for details. So that BLI could produce a great I1. And then, they had the P2 which could be better. Maybe this P4 is better. But I am not about to buy any more locos. So I'll never know. And as we on this forum agree, QSI is a great decoder. Sure wish it were smaller for N scale, even though I'm HO. I would think a nice one for a diesel switcher/obviously small with a speaker, would be a great seller.
--
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Q

 

Peteski: When I said "hate". I was referring to the masses. Not specifically you. You "dislike" Digitrax, but still know about it and how to use it. Didn't you mention a club you go to that uses Digitrax? You say you like the latest throttles. I don't. I like my UT4D. It fits my hand, is easy to use, and I don't have any problems with it. Look at all the problems people are having now with the UT6D. And for those I mentioned that dislike or hate QSI. They are many. I keep reading comments by modelers of how they replace the QSI decoder. Almost always with a LokSound or TCS. To me, that's just unnecessary expense. As I said, spend $400 to $500 on a loco - and then, because I don't like it, take it out and replace it with another decoder that costs another $100+. LokSound and TCS are not cheap. As far as I can tell, Sountraxx/Tsunami makes about the best - for the money. However, even they are limited. And for me, I can't even begin to think about buying any more. Locos. Decoders. Even cars. My purchasing days are over. I'm working now on scenery and even that, is minimal expense. I have that non-sound Bachmann and have no desire to put sound in it. Not worth the effort. It's just a good piece of junk to use to test track or such. In fact, the 3 diesels I own are just useless otherwise. Steam locos are my favorites. And yes, I agree that the QSI is a good enough decoder to keep and figure out. The manual may be large, but it's better than the Bachmann 1 pager that don't even tell how to adjust the sound. I had to go to Soundtraxx to get info on it.
--
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Q

Al
 

QSI is still in operation, their web site is QSI Industries.com They are located in Beaverton OR and you can order direct from them. There maybe a slow response because I think Kelly is the only person there. You have to contact them via E-mail to order decoders and programmer. Manuals and soundfiles can be downloaded.
Al Babinsky


Re: Q

Dave Hastings
 

PS you can purchase the decoders direct from QSI. Kelly Dorf is a very nice person.

Dave Hastings

On Friday, August 13, 2021, 02:14:03 PM EDT, Dave Hastings <dave_hastings@rocketmail.com> wrote:





From wiki :The current status of QSIS is unknown at this time.

The QSIS website is still partially functional, but some sound files are missing things such as instruction manuals, etc. You can go to the groups.io forum and get files and software there.



 Josh was never an employee of QSI, He was employed by Tony's Trains. In 2013 he became the owner of QSI Solutions when Tony diversified, which was the previous owner under the AHD? line of his products. He was the manager there. There is almost nothing left of his web site, he does not maintain it, and you need to check on this group if you need any sound files. Litchfield Station has Q1 upgrade chips and they will put whatever sound file you need that they have. He has a facebook presence , but he has not posted on it since mid 2020,it appears he is into music, and there is nothing about QSI or QSI solutions on there. He has an Instagram account, but I don't, so I cannot tell you anything about that. Personally I think he lost interest and moved on. 

Dave Hastings






On Friday, August 13, 2021, 01:00:41 PM EDT, peteski7 via groups.io <peteski7=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:





Morgan,
"hate" is a strong word.  I said that I dislike DIgitrax products.  I reserve "hate" for other situations.  I dislike it because it to me seems awkwardly designed, implemented, and it's difficult to use.  Sure, you can get used to it (like you can get used to spending time in prison), but I still don't have to like it, or choose to use it myself.  But like I mentioned earlier, their latest throttles (including the Zephyr system) have dramatically improved user interfaces. They now actually use plain English language (not some cryptic abbreviations) on their display to guide you through the settings.

I also can't say that I know any QSI-haters.  If anything, many modelers don't think QSI is a viable company (which to me seems not far from the truth).  Not like you can visit any online dealer and purchase QSI decoders (like you can with Digitrax, ESU, ZIMO, TCS, ESU, Soundtraxx, and others).  They are just not available at the retail level.  How can anybody hate something that is not easily available for purchases?

My first encounter with QSI (when I also fell in love with it). was factory installed decoder in Walthers N scale 2-8-8-2 Mallet. What really, really impressed me was how well the chuffs were synchronized with the drivers, without using a cam. I could press down on a running model to slow it down, and the chuffs would stay in sync!  I could even press on it hard enough (with the throttle still set for running) to stall the drivers, and the chuffs would stop!!  How  very cool was that?  That's back when other  sound decoder manufacturers had nothing like that available.  Then after downloading the phone-book-size manual I was even more awed at all the features of that decoder.  Then I heard it speak various parameters in a human voice, you could have knocked me over with a feather!  That was back about 15 years ago, and I think QSI si still the only decoder that can speak!

Even after 15 years (and without any major firmware updates) QSI sound decoders are still some of the top decoders out there. The stereo Titans are also unmatched. I think there is another manufacturer (Soundtraxx maybe) who recently announced the stereo feature. Well, QSI had that for years. The only problem I heard of is that the QSI decoders don't play nice with coreless motors which are gaining popularity in model locos.

One think that is killing me is that I model in N scale, and QSI never produced a small decoder which would fit into more N scale models. (I can only shoe-horn the Revolution decoders in some of the steam loco tenders).  QSI had plans for smaller N scale decoders, but Josh (back when he was still part of the company) told me that they would need to develop a smaller physical size chip for that decoder. That development was supposed to be funded by one of the N scale brass model manufacturers, but I guess that fell through because no small decoder was ever produced.  If QSI ever gets their act together and makes smaller sound decoders, I'll be the first in line to get them.  Not holding my breath though  . . .

Peteski
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:56 PM, PennsyNut wrote:

OK. You are right. This case is closed. A final note. I'm sure you've noticed that a lot of people hate QSI. Probably just as many that hate Digitrax.  And both groups can do 1 of 2 things. Keep what they got and work around any problems. Or get rid of what they hate and spend a lot more money buying something they think is better.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Q

Dave Hastings
 

From wiki :The current status of QSIS is unknown at this time.

The QSIS website is still partially functional, but some sound files are missing things such as instruction manuals, etc. You can go to the groups.io forum and get files and software there.



 Josh was never an employee of QSI, He was employed by Tony's Trains. In 2013 he became the owner of QSI Solutions when Tony diversified, which was the previous owner under the AHD? line of his products. He was the manager there. There is almost nothing left of his web site, he does not maintain it, and you need to check on this group if you need any sound files. Litchfield Station has Q1 upgrade chips and they will put whatever sound file you need that they have. He has a facebook presence , but he has not posted on it since mid 2020,it appears he is into music, and there is nothing about QSI or QSI solutions on there. He has an Instagram account, but I don't, so I cannot tell you anything about that. Personally I think he lost interest and moved on. 

Dave Hastings

On Friday, August 13, 2021, 01:00:41 PM EDT, peteski7 via groups.io <peteski7=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:





Morgan,
"hate" is a strong word.  I said that I dislike DIgitrax products.  I reserve "hate" for other situations.  I dislike it because it to me seems awkwardly designed, implemented, and it's difficult to use.  Sure, you can get used to it (like you can get used to spending time in prison), but I still don't have to like it, or choose to use it myself.  But like I mentioned earlier, their latest throttles (including the Zephyr system) have dramatically improved user interfaces. They now actually use plain English language (not some cryptic abbreviations) on their display to guide you through the settings.

I also can't say that I know any QSI-haters.  If anything, many modelers don't think QSI is a viable company (which to me seems not far from the truth).  Not like you can visit any online dealer and purchase QSI decoders (like you can with Digitrax, ESU, ZIMO, TCS, ESU, Soundtraxx, and others).  They are just not available at the retail level.  How can anybody hate something that is not easily available for purchases?

My first encounter with QSI (when I also fell in love with it). was factory installed decoder in Walthers N scale 2-8-8-2 Mallet. What really, really impressed me was how well the chuffs were synchronized with the drivers, without using a cam. I could press down on a running model to slow it down, and the chuffs would stay in sync!  I could even press on it hard enough (with the throttle still set for running) to stall the drivers, and the chuffs would stop!!  How  very cool was that?  That's back when other  sound decoder manufacturers had nothing like that available.  Then after downloading the phone-book-size manual I was even more awed at all the features of that decoder.  Then I heard it speak various parameters in a human voice, you could have knocked me over with a feather!  That was back about 15 years ago, and I think QSI si still the only decoder that can speak!

Even after 15 years (and without any major firmware updates) QSI sound decoders are still some of the top decoders out there. The stereo Titans are also unmatched. I think there is another manufacturer (Soundtraxx maybe) who recently announced the stereo feature. Well, QSI had that for years. The only problem I heard of is that the QSI decoders don't play nice with coreless motors which are gaining popularity in model locos.

One think that is killing me is that I model in N scale, and QSI never produced a small decoder which would fit into more N scale models. (I can only shoe-horn the Revolution decoders in some of the steam loco tenders).  QSI had plans for smaller N scale decoders, but Josh (back when he was still part of the company) told me that they would need to develop a smaller physical size chip for that decoder. That development was supposed to be funded by one of the N scale brass model manufacturers, but I guess that fell through because no small decoder was ever produced.  If QSI ever gets their act together and makes smaller sound decoders, I'll be the first in line to get them.  Not holding my breath though  . . .

Peteski
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:56 PM, PennsyNut wrote:

OK. You are right. This case is closed. A final note. I'm sure you've noticed that a lot of people hate QSI. Probably just as many that hate Digitrax.  And both groups can do 1 of 2 things. Keep what they got and work around any problems. Or get rid of what they hate and spend a lot more money buying something they think is better.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952


Re: Decoders

Dave Hastings
 

That's what I said to John. I know BLI went their separate way from QSI, It was more for economy for them to do their own decoders. Remember the Blue Line, they sorta sucked but it was their own sound.

Dave Hastings

On Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:16:50 AM EDT, Leonard Stern via groups.io <printmore1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:







TO: Dave and others; I have been reading these posts and wish to clear up some understandings.

When Broadway LTD introduced sound some many years ago they used QSI decoders version 1 to 7 . BLI for economy or other reasons introduced their own priority decoders and called then Paragon 2, then 3,then 4 .

These decoders are not produced by QSI and have completely different manuals that QSI decoders use.

 

The discussion recently has really got off the rails.

 

For non-believers, I suggest you call Broadway and get the info from them. They will confirm what I stated in the paragraph above.

 

Thank you for reading this Email.

 

Leonard Stern

Home of the Montreal Belt Line


Re: Decoders

peteski7
 

Well Morgan,
Um, if you did try using the SPROG (or any other brand DCC system) to test the F1, you would have quickly discovered that the decoder was functioning properly. As I mentioned, those who understand how DCC works, know that whether a Function is latching or non-latching is a function of the DCC system, not the decoder. That is an indisputable fact we tried to convince you about.

I own few of  BLI N scale locos with Paragon decoders, and even a quick glance at their functionality I can tell that they have absolutely no relation to QSI design.  Paragon are fairly simplistic decoders, with limited configuration capability. Even simple functions like the headlight, cannot be configured to operate in a realistic manner. But this is not the forum for that discussion.

Peteski

Peteski

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:18 PM, PennsyNut wrote:
And if it hadn't been for Nick Kulp's solution, I and the rest of us - would never have solved this - looking only at SPROG and JMRI.


Re: Q

peteski7
 

Morgan,
"hate" is a strong word.  I said that I dislike DIgitrax products.  I reserve "hate" for other situations.  I dislike it because it to me seems awkwardly designed, implemented, and it's difficult to use.  Sure, you can get used to it (like you can get used to spending time in prison), but I still don't have to like it, or choose to use it myself.  But like I mentioned earlier, their latest throttles (including the Zephyr system) have dramatically improved user interfaces. They now actually use plain English language (not some cryptic abbreviations) on their display to guide you through the settings.

I also can't say that I know any QSI-haters.  If anything, many modelers don't think QSI is a viable company (which to me seems not far from the truth).  Not like you can visit any online dealer and purchase QSI decoders (like you can with Digitrax, ESU, ZIMO, TCS, ESU, Soundtraxx, and others).  They are just not available at the retail level.  How can anybody hate something that is not easily available for purchases?

My first encounter with QSI (when I also fell in love with it). was factory installed decoder in Walthers N scale 2-8-8-2 Mallet. What really, really impressed me was how well the chuffs were synchronized with the drivers, without using a cam. I could press down on a running model to slow it down, and the chuffs would stay in sync!  I could even press on it hard enough (with the throttle still set for running) to stall the drivers, and the chuffs would stop!!  How  very cool was that?  That's back when other  sound decoder manufacturers had nothing like that available.  Then after downloading the phone-book-size manual I was even more awed at all the features of that decoder.  Then I heard it speak various parameters in a human voice, you could have knocked me over with a feather!  That was back about 15 years ago, and I think QSI si still the only decoder that can speak!

Even after 15 years (and without any major firmware updates) QSI sound decoders are still some of the top decoders out there. The stereo Titans are also unmatched. I think there is another manufacturer (Soundtraxx maybe) who recently announced the stereo feature. Well, QSI had that for years. The only problem I heard of is that the QSI decoders don't play nice with coreless motors which are gaining popularity in model locos.

One think that is killing me is that I model in N scale, and QSI never produced a small decoder which would fit into more N scale models. (I can only shoe-horn the Revolution decoders in some of the steam loco tenders).  QSI had plans for smaller N scale decoders, but Josh (back when he was still part of the company) told me that they would need to develop a smaller physical size chip for that decoder. That development was supposed to be funded by one of the N scale brass model manufacturers, but I guess that fell through because no small decoder was ever produced.  If QSI ever gets their act together and makes smaller sound decoders, I'll be the first in line to get them.  Not holding my breath though  . . .

Peteski

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:56 PM, PennsyNut wrote:
OK. You are right. This case is closed. A final note. I'm sure you've noticed that a lot of people hate QSI. Probably just as many that hate Digitrax.  And both groups can do 1 of 2 things. Keep what they got and work around any problems. Or get rid of what they hate and spend a lot more money buying something they think is better.
Morgan F Bilbo, DCS50, UT4D, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 4.24, Pennsy modeler 1952

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