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Re: Which qsi decoder

Al
 

Hi,
If you want to use a QSI decoder they are available from QSI industries they are located in Portland, OR. I would install a sound decoder from any of the other manufactures. Unless you're familiar with the QSI decoders and have JMRI programming is not easy. 
If you have any more questions please PM me,
 
Al Babinsky

On 04/25/2021 9:17 PM Darrin Calcutt <canadianlocomotivelogistics@...> wrote:
 
 
I purchased an Atlas gold ho scal locomotive. 
 
After opening the shell, I see the sound decoder is missing. 
 
Does anyone know what qsi decoder was originally used in the model?
 


Which qsi decoder

Darrin Calcutt
 

I purchased an Atlas gold ho scal locomotive. 

After opening the shell, I see the sound decoder is missing. 

Does anyone know what qsi decoder was originally used in the model?



Re: Setting Alternate Horn permanently?

Dan Howard
 

KJ,

Thank you!

Was able to successfully select an appropriate horn using the "Cut & Paste Sounds" feature.

-Dan


Re: Setting Alternate Horn permanently?

kjlovesya
 

Hi Dan,

  If I remember correctly, the default primary horn selection for the Q2 is chosen during the locomotive sound-set installation.   The sound-set installation is done using the Q2Upgrade (now labelled Quantum Upgrade) via the QSI Programmer.


Best regards,
KJ


Setting Alternate Horn permanently?

Dan Howard
 

After reading through the manual and searching the group posts, was wondering if it is possible to set the Alternate Horn as the default "primary" horn so that I don't have to select the Alt. horn each time.

Specifically seeking to do this on a locomotive with a Q2 sound set. I have both the Quantum Programmer and JMRI for programming the decoder.

Dan Howard
Clermont, NY


Re: QSI programmer

Al
 

Thanks for all the answers. I'm using a Windows 10 laptop. 
The reason that I wanted to use the programmer was to see if I could make the FWD and REV lights work properly. I've been using JMRI which has several options for the lights, the FWD light dims going in REV but can't get the REV light to dim when going forward. By the way the loco is a Proto 2000 GN SD 7 which runs long hood forward, which is normal for GN. 
At this point I can leave things as they are since the SD 7 very seldom runs in REV as it runs as an automated train on the Museum display.
Again would appreciate the info on downloading the proper driver.
Al


Re: QSI programmer

Jay Beckham
 

Al

 

I just noticed your post.  I have about seven locos with QSI I need to setup.  Haven’t set up my work area yet but in the next week or so will have to.  I am using a decent PC running Windows 10 and I think it is 64bit as it is a I7 CPU.  Do you have the proper driver for that?  I do have the newer link that was on here a day or so ago and the old link that Kelly gave to me but not sure what is there.

 

I purchased the NCE Power Cab just for a test track and will have this PC for testing and programming Sound Decoders.  I have Titans, the OEM ones in Atlas Gold Series, and now also SoundTraxx decoders. 

 

Thanks

 

Jay Beckham

 

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From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of Donald Goveas
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:29 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] QSI programmer

 

Hello Al, 

May I know which OS you are using? Ver.3.2 was being used for WinXP. I have Silabs drivers for WinXP to Win10

Donald

 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:10 AM Al <babinskya@...> wrote:

When I try to use the programmer a message comes up about the Silabs USB driver 3.2 which is evidently missing. Where do I find it to download?
Any help is appreciated,
Thank you,
Al Babinsky


Re: QSI programmer

Donald Goveas
 

Hello Al, 
May I know which OS you are using? Ver.3.2 was being used for WinXP. I have Silabs drivers for WinXP to Win10
Donald

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:10 AM Al <babinskya@...> wrote:
When I try to use the programmer a message comes up about the Silabs USB driver 3.2 which is evidently missing. Where do I find it to download?
Any help is appreciated,
Thank you,
Al Babinsky


Re: QSI programmer

Joó Ferenc
 

I am still looking for a Programmer and an FX-DO decoder as am not receiving any answers from Kelly...

Üdvözlettel,
Best regards,
MfG,

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Greg Elmassian <greg@...> ezt írta (időpont: 2021. ápr. 21., Sze, 4:30):

The driver you need is dependent on the version of the program you are using...

here's some help:
https://elmassian.com/index.php/dcc/specific-manufacturers/qsi-equipment/qsi-programmer-hw-a-sw

If you cannot find the drivers, email me

Greg


Re: QSI programmer

Greg Elmassian
 

The driver you need is dependent on the version of the program you are using...

here's some help:
https://elmassian.com/index.php/dcc/specific-manufacturers/qsi-equipment/qsi-programmer-hw-a-sw

If you cannot find the drivers, email me

Greg


QSI programmer

Al
 

When I try to use the programmer a message comes up about the Silabs USB driver 3.2 which is evidently missing. Where do I find it to download?
Any help is appreciated,
Thank you,
Al Babinsky


Wiring Ditchlights in Atlas Dash 8-40CW

citaro_o530
 
Edited

I'm restoring an old Atlas Dash 8-40CW and I need help connecting the lights. As you can see in the picture I have the 5-pin connector with wires in blue, brown, black, orange and red. I found that the red wire is the + 5V pin 1 and the headlight is pin 2 orange. Now the question is how to connect the remaining 3 wires in the ditchlights to the chassis contacts. Can someone help me?


Re: QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

Nick
 

James,

The Atlas Gold series were (for me) GREAT locos. I still own 2 of the FM Trainmasters and other than dirty wheel problems, they still work and sound  great.

Tony's carried the original speakers and they will work fine as replacements. I have also replaced some of the original speakers, in other locos, with small sugar cube speakers with surprising results. "Bass" response with the small enclosures is remarkable compared to the "compact" speakers available when these locos were released almost 20 years ago. Don't be afraid to try them . Modifications in mounting them is needed but they do work well.

As Paul mentioned, the original decoders were the "crippled" versions thanks to Mike's Train House's frivolous lawsuit back then. After the suit was dismissed, the upgrade chips and programmer were released. The old chips had a LOT of problems like no BEMF, loss of programming after a short circuit, running away after a short circuit, and more than can be addressed in this forum.The $30.00 price for the upgrade is well worth the investment. It also provides a way to upgrade the sound file if you own the QSI programmer or know someone that does.

Good luck,
Nick Kulp


Re: QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

Paul B/Indy
 

FWIW, these were a Rev 6 when new out of the box.  The Rev 7 was available as a replacement plug-in chip for these engines.

Paul B/Indy


On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Bob Waldele <rwaldele@...> wrote:

James
If I recall correctly (without benefit of opening up one of my Atlas Gold series units)
The decoder is either a Q1 (Rev.6) or Q1a (Rev.7) version.  In the road switchers they used an A-frame cast into the rear (long hood) weight block and it is fitted with two (2) 28mm 8Ohm 0.5W speakers wired in series; the “net” effect is a 16Ohm 1W speaker equivalent.  These speakers have a low-profile (shallow) cone so the back of the speaker does not vibrate against the carbody.  These “special” speakers are readily through most suppliers (Tony’s, Litchfield, MB Klein, etc.).
Given the age of these units, it is possible that one of the wire connections might be coming loose causing the intermittent or static; examine the solder connections at the speakers and also the wire connections at the decoder (one or more broken strands?).  It is also possible – as you suspect – the speaker may be showing its age (I have had both of these happen)
Good luck.
Bob.W


Re: QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

Bob Waldele
 

James

If I recall correctly (without benefit of opening up one of my Atlas Gold series units)

The decoder is either a Q1 (Rev.6) or Q1a (Rev.7) version.  In the road switchers they used an A-frame cast into the rear (long hood) weight block and it is fitted with two (2) 28mm 8Ohm 0.5W speakers wired in series; the “net” effect is a 16Ohm 1W speaker equivalent.  These speakers have a low-profile (shallow) cone so the back of the speaker does not vibrate against the carbody.  These “special” speakers are readily through most suppliers (Tony’s, Litchfield, MB Klein, etc.).

Given the age of these units, it is possible that one of the wire connections might be coming loose causing the intermittent or static; examine the solder connections at the speakers and also the wire connections at the decoder (one or more broken strands?).  It is also possible – as you suspect – the speaker may be showing its age (I have had both of these happen)

Good luck.

Bob.W


Re: QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

ffbrehm@...
 

Hi James,

They are 8 ohm. They are slightly larger than 1” I believe but not exactly sure of the size.

Frank Brehm

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of santafe49 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:03 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

 

I have an Atlas Master Dash8-40CW from the June 2004 release, with factory installed QSI decoder. The sound has gotten kind of crackly and i suppose the speaker/s have cracked?
Would anyone happen to know the Ohm load of the speakers? 4, 8, or 16 ohms?
Haven't opened it up but thought i would be get ahead of the game if someone had the answer.
Thanks in advance.
--
James St. Clair


Re: QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

Barry Yankolonis
 

Hi James,
From my recollection, think all the QSI decoders came with 8 ohm speakers.
Yank


QSI in an Atlas Dash8-40CW

santafe49
 

I have an Atlas Master Dash8-40CW from the June 2004 release, with factory installed QSI decoder. The sound has gotten kind of crackly and i suppose the speaker/s have cracked?
Would anyone happen to know the Ohm load of the speakers? 4, 8, or 16 ohms?
Haven't opened it up but thought i would be get ahead of the game if someone had the answer.
Thanks in advance.
--
James St. Clair


Re: Decoderstopping

Greg Elmassian
 

that wiki is not perfect, sorry.... clearly written by someone who does not have an electrical engineering degree, or is keeping current with technology

You cannot make up your own definitions of commonly accepted electronics and physics standards to suit yourself.

1,2,8,  are wrong the answer to #8 even contradicts itself, yes of course there are not positive and negative voltages at the same time (doh!) but the polarity of the rails reverse each cycle.

12 - it depends on the manufacturer, but grammatically the answer is correct, because of the word "must"

14 is wrong, in that many systems have extra control signals, as stated, thus boosters for those systems are effectively brand specific, and the answer ignores the input levels to the booster.

18 is old data as many large scale decoders now have dual 4 watt, and even dual 10 watt amplifiers clearly 20 watts at (G scale track voltage) 20 volts is an amp, clearly more in smaller scales (lower DCC voltage)

24 shows the author has never worked in large scale, with motors with high stall currents... pittman motors can have huge stall currents as well as USA Trains locos....

34 is wrong, dang it, several manufacturers are sneaking in some of the other bits in cv29... they should be slapped silly, again old data

37 is wrong, if you are using a 1/4 wave antenna, a pie pan can add the needed ground plane... (nowadays more manufacturers are using 1/2 wave designs that don't need a ground plane)

Some of the other explanations of the DCC signal are muddled, confusing voltage/amplitude with the frequency/modulation....

Greg


Re: Decoderstopping

Gilbert Buras Jr
 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Elmassian
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:05 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Decoderstopping

 

You actually contradict yourself... please read the definition of alternating current, it really means alternating voltage, no waveform implied.

So you think "bipolar" is not the same as changing between negative and positive? That's only true in psychological disorders.

AC does not need to be sinusoidal.

Please either consult an electrical engineer with a degree, or post some authoritative links.

I present the definition of AC via wikipedia.

DC means a single directional flow of current, which DCC is most definitely not.

Again I present the definition of DC via wikipedia.

Looking for support of your statements, I have supported mine, and can produce more.

Greg Elmassian


On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:41 AM, Talmadge C 'TC' Carr wrote:

No it does not as it does not alternate to negative.
It is bipolar DC never been AC.

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
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On 27March2021, at 13:23, Greg Elmassian <greg@...> wrote:

By the way AC is alternating current, any waveform that alternates between plus and minus, thus DCC qualifies.

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