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Re: Quantum Programmer

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
 

Contact Kelly at QS Industries.
qsindustries224@gmail.com

Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
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On 15August2020, at 08:29, Gordon Wayne Pruitt Jr <pruitt1973@woh.rr.com> wrote:

I've looked everywhere online to buy a quantum programmer. I can't even find one on Ebay. I have several locomotives with QSI decoders and really want to have the ability to upgrade firmware and sound files. I have the ability to program through JMRI but would really like the added benefit of programming through the Quantum Programmer when I want or need to. So, where can I buy? Thanks!


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Re: Quantum Programmer

Ed.Sauers
 

Gordon,

Contact Kelly Dorf, he monitors this list.  kell.dorf@...   it might take a while for him to reply but he will get back to you.

Ed Sauers



On 8/15/2020 11:29 AM, Gordon Wayne Pruitt Jr wrote:
I've looked everywhere online to buy a quantum programmer. I can't even find one on Ebay. I have several locomotives with QSI decoders and really want to have the ability to upgrade firmware and sound files. I have the ability to program through JMRI but would really like the added benefit of programming through the Quantum Programmer when I want or need to. So, where can I buy? Thanks!


Quantum Programmer

Gordon Wayne Pruitt Jr
 

I've looked everywhere online to buy a quantum programmer. I can't even find one on Ebay. I have several locomotives with QSI decoders and really want to have the ability to upgrade firmware and sound files. I have the ability to program through JMRI but would really like the added benefit of programming through the Quantum Programmer when I want or need to. So, where can I buy? Thanks!


Re: Replacement sound chip for GP7

James Lucas <james.lucas@...>
 

Gents.

Many thanks for all your comments which I think I will be able to, from a skills position, give it a try!

Yes my LL loco is about 20 years old.

James.

NMRA BR Membership Renewals Officer and Registrar.

 


Re: Replacement sound chip for GP7

Bob Waldele
 

James

Is this a recent problem or has the unit always been slow?

If this is truly a Life-Like unit (manufactured before they were acquired by Walthers) another possibility is you may have one (or more) cracked axle gears.  You might consider tearing down the truck assemblies and thoroughly cleaning out the old lubricant, inspect the axle gears; if it is a 15-20y/o Life-Like engine, replace the axle gears (your local dealer should have those from Walthers (or Athearn replacement gears will also work).  Old grease and accumulated dust, grit, etc., can really gum up the works!

Good luck.

Bob.Waldele

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lucas via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:56 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] Replacement sound chip for GP7

 

Hello Group.

Can I please ask a question, I have gone into ‘search’ without any success, regarding a Life Like GP7 with a QSI sound chip as fitted by LL. I am unsure how old the loco is but it runs like a dog having a top speed of 25mph. I do not think the gears are shot!!

I am thinking of trying to fit a replacement QSI chip. Is there such a thing for this loco? I run my railroad in the UK so sourcing a new chip could be an issue.

Any help/advice would be most helpful.

Thanks.

James.


Re: Replacement sound chip for GP7

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 8/13/2020 12:20 PM, Bob Menzies wrote:
I am unsure how old the loco is but it runs like a dog having a top speed of 25mph. I do not think the gears are shot!!

    I typically set all my engines at about 50% using the speed tables.  I know many others that do the same.  So check that.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
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Re: Replacement sound chip for GP7

James Lucas <james.lucas@...>
 

Thank you Bob. I'll give that a try in the morning when I go upto the loft!!

James.


Re: Replacement sound chip for GP7

Bob Menzies <railscanner@...>
 

you could try changing CV 5 to 255 and CV6 to 128 to see if someone has put a custom speed table in the unit. Shut off the CV's that would activate a custom speed table. 


On Thu., Aug. 13, 2020, 11:09 a.m. James Lucas via groups.io, <james.lucas=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hello Group.

Can I please ask a question, I have gone into ‘search’ without any success, regarding a Life Like GP7 with a QSI sound chip as fitted by LL. I am unsure how old the loco is but it runs like a dog having a top speed of 25mph. I do not think the gears are shot!!

I am thinking of trying to fit a replacement QSI chip. Is there such a thing for this loco? I run my railroad in the UK so sourcing a new chip could be an issue.

Any help/advice would be most helpful.

Thanks.

James.


Replacement sound chip for GP7

James Lucas <james.lucas@...>
 

Hello Group.

Can I please ask a question, I have gone into ‘search’ without any success, regarding a Life Like GP7 with a QSI sound chip as fitted by LL. I am unsure how old the loco is but it runs like a dog having a top speed of 25mph. I do not think the gears are shot!!

I am thinking of trying to fit a replacement QSI chip. Is there such a thing for this loco? I run my railroad in the UK so sourcing a new chip could be an issue.

Any help/advice would be most helpful.

Thanks.

James.


Re: Issue with Quantum Revolution-U decoder

Bruce Shanks
 

When you put it away 4 years ago, did you put it in "Shut-down" mode?

In DC the Quantum Engineer has a shut-down button. In DCC one of the Function buttons will do it, usually F9.  It goes thru a series of sounds, finishing with the engineer closing the door and locking up. Kinda neat, until you forget about what you did.

To recover you'll need the Quantum Engineer box hooked into the DC power (then push the "Start-up" button) or a DCC system that can send the Start-up function (usually F6).

Alternative would be to do a reset.  The reed switch was a option for the Revolution, because the reed switch could fail in the closed position, which upset customers because it would reset at every power application.  If it doesn't say "Reset" when you apply power, that's a good thing (you don't have a stuck reed switch).

Since we're talking steam here, the decoder is probably in the tender along with the speaker and it's associated magnet, not a good location for the reed switch. So if a reed switch is present it will probably be in the loco.

The Revolution manual says "Turnoff the power.  Place the Magic Wand over the reed switch area, apply power and leave the wand in place until you hear the word "Reset" .  Your locomotive is now reset to original factory defaults" You can try several places around the cab and boiler, hunting for the switch.  A reset takes several seconds, so don't be impatient.

If that fails, the manual says "If you don 't have a reed switch installed; locate the pink wire" ... "and the black wire with a white stripe and simply touch the ends together as you apply power per the instructions above."  Those are the wires that would be connected to a reed switch if i were installed.  On the Revolution-U decoder these two wires come out of a connector on one end of the board.  They are the last two positions  on the connector that has two violet wires that go to the speaker on the opposite end.

Hope this helps.


Re: Issue with Quantum Revolution-U decoder

Bob Waldele
 

I don't recall Revolution series decoders with reed switch.  Best get your DCC programming track set up and try reading the decoder to verify Mfg and firmware version, the do the reset procedure with CVs.

Bob.


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-------- Original message --------
From: larmour@...
Date: 8/6/20 06:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] Issue with Quantum Revolution-U decoder

I have the above decoder (product code 4050-718) installed in a Proto 2000 2-8-8--2 Mallet.

The unit used to work well on both DC and DCC. The loco has been in storage for 4 years whilst we moved house and a new layout built. The layout is not yet set up for DCC and I have tried to use the loco on DC but the only action from the decoder is for the sounds to start up and lights to glow (dimly). I have confirmed that the plug between the loco and tender is securely installed but with no change in the decoders response. the wheels and track are clean and other sound equiupeed locos I have work well on the layout in DC mode.
On other forums they talk about a factory reset with a magnet and I have passed a magnet over the loco and tender but one again with no change in the decoder

Does anyone have a suggestion?
Philip


Re: Issue with Quantum Revolution-U decoder

Ed.Sauers
 

Philip,

Since nobody else has replied I will chime in here to try to help.

Are you passing the magnet over the decoder while the power is on and you are getting at least 7 volts DC to the decoder? Once you do the magnet swipe you will have to cycle the power, at this point the decoder should speak "RESET"

Then you can try to run the loco again

Can you hook up a small section of track and connect your DCC system to they the decoder under DCC power?

Ed Sauers



On 8/6/2020 6:01 AM, larmour@... wrote:
I have the above decoder (product code 4050-718) installed in a Proto 2000 2-8-8--2 Mallet.

The unit used to work well on both DC and DCC. The loco has been in storage for 4 years whilst we moved house and a new layout built. The layout is not yet set up for DCC and I have tried to use the loco on DC but the only action from the decoder is for the sounds to start up and lights to glow (dimly). I have confirmed that the plug between the loco and tender is securely installed but with no change in the decoders response. the wheels and track are clean and other sound equiupeed locos I have work well on the layout in DC mode.
On other forums they talk about a factory reset with a magnet and I have passed a magnet over the loco and tender but one again with no change in the decoder

Does anyone have a suggestion?
Philip


Issue with Quantum Revolution-U decoder

larmour@...
 

I have the above decoder (product code 4050-718) installed in a Proto 2000 2-8-8--2 Mallet.

The unit used to work well on both DC and DCC. The loco has been in storage for 4 years whilst we moved house and a new layout built. The layout is not yet set up for DCC and I have tried to use the loco on DC but the only action from the decoder is for the sounds to start up and lights to glow (dimly). I have confirmed that the plug between the loco and tender is securely installed but with no change in the decoders response. the wheels and track are clean and other sound equiupeed locos I have work well on the layout in DC mode.
On other forums they talk about a factory reset with a magnet and I have passed a magnet over the loco and tender but one again with no change in the decoder

Does anyone have a suggestion?
Philip


Re: Stay alive

Andy Ambrose
 

Good question, and I would love to know how to fit stay alives to all my BLI HO locos too.


Stay alive

Jay Beckham
 

Kelly and others

Do know of a stay alive for these QSI in my two Atlas Gold series O Scale
GP9 engines? Or perhaps a homemade one such as including in last month's
issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist. They (Joe) used four Supercapacitors, a
diode, resistor, and a Zener diode. The Zener was to cap the voltage to 14
to protect the four Supercapacitors.

Attached is photos of the decoders.

Jay Beckham


Re: Setting recommendations for Titan EMD E6 Dual prime movers

Ed.Sauers
 

KJ,

Thanks

Ed Sauers

On 7/22/2020 11:42 AM, kjlovesya via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ed,

  I always use momentum numbers that make the loco perform like it has full scale mass.   Using the following momentu numbers also alters the sounds of the prime mover as it sounds like it's really working.  i.e. running light to pulling a heavy load.    ***Caution*** using high values for CV4 and CV24 will dramatically increase braking distances.  

CV 23 = 40
CV 24 = 127

CV 3 = 0 for running light  (add 5 points for each passenger car)
CV 4 = 150 - 200 depending on load

Give these a try and see if it's like the full scale.


Happy railroading!

KJ


Re: Setting recommendations for Titan EMD E6 Dual prime movers

kjlovesya
 

Hi Ed,

  I always use momentum numbers that make the loco perform like it has full scale mass.   Using the following momentu numbers also alters the sounds of the prime mover as it sounds like it's really working.  i.e. running light to pulling a heavy load.    ***Caution*** using high values for CV4 and CV24 will dramatically increase braking distances.  

CV 23 = 40
CV 24 = 127

CV 3 = 0 for running light  (add 5 points for each passenger car)
CV 4 = 150 - 200 depending on load

Give these a try and see if it's like the full scale.


Happy railroading!

KJ


Setting recommendations for Titan EMD E6 Dual prime movers

Ed.Sauers
 

Group,

Does anyone have recommendation for settings to get the best dual prime mover sounds, these will be installed in a S-scale EMD E6 A and B units?

Any help will be appreciates!! are there other setting besides the sound Balance/ volume to configure for dual prime movers?

Thanks

Ed Sauers


Re: NCE Advanced consisting and QSI model 106 (Atlas)

Walt Weber
 

Closing out this thread with final results as follows
(delays due to state-mandated stay-at-home orders for 3 months ....)

- Obtained replacement board for the one with the damaged socket (my fault for being "ham-fisted", as my dad would say).
- Installed latest chip for ho106 , build date 8-1-09, in both locomotives (using PLCC chip-puller)
- Reconfigure both decoders on programming track using JMRI.
- Short-hood-forward operation achieved through setting CV29 bit zero to 1 ("reversed").
- Locomotive runs correctly as a single.
- Build consist (NCE Advanced Consist) with locomotives in back-to-back lashup
(This is accomplished by setting CV19 bit D7 to "1" for the reverse-facing locomotive during consist setup.)
- Rear-facing locomotive does not move in correct direction when in consist

Sadly, the newest version of firmware available (thanks to Kelly Dorf for getting the chips to me) does not fix the issue.

Only solution appears to be to NOT use CV29 bit D0 for "reversed", and instead to swap motor leads and adjust function mapping.

Kelly, there should be enough information here to pass along to the engineers if they want to track the problem.

...walt...


Re: Relocating/replacing capacitors and filing edge of board on Titan-SD

kjlovesya
 

Ben,

  I couldn't get the videos to play.   Is the problem just with my system?

KJ

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