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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Charley Goddard <cgalfa@...>
 

Here is the work around for the Microsoft updates.  Install and plug in your devices and have them running.  I have never seen a QSI Programmer.  So I hope this works for you. C.       

This has also worked for me with 32-bit.
Ignore the circled link.


Win10 Updates Tank Unsigned Drivers

Charley Goddard <cgalfa@...>
 

Peter, Microsoft locks out Unsigned Drivers.  Microsoft protects from UDs that haven't received their approval, a commission I would guess.  I have the same problem with a Lenz system every time there is an Update.  I think that I have the procedure in my laptop, and I know that I made a hard copy.

I'll go to my other computer and try to find it.  If not I'll update my scanner and scan my hard copy for you.  If that doesn't work, I'll type out the steps for you  and the Group.
 
Charley G. in Muncie


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

jacob longanecker
 

How about adding a different screen to the older laptop? I have personally downgraded all of my windows 10 machines due to 10 being exponentially slower to start up and get going and 10 basically doing whatever it wants, when’s it wants regardless of my desires to want to manage the computer, updates, etc.

Jake Longanecker


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Bobby Abrams
 

perhaps it's windows defender that is detecting the drivers or some component as malware. try turning off windows defender
Bobby Abrams


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:26 AM peterebherron <peterebherron@...> wrote:
Group.  I’d like to revisit this issue if I may.  I have a laptop with Windows 10 installed which was set up by an expert with myself set up as the administrator. I have tried all three methods outlined by google AS THE ADMINISTRATOR to install the drivers and cannot get past the message that my actions were blocked and I need to contact the administrator!  I have also discovered I cannot restore the computer to an earlier time to ditch whichever upgrade is causing the problem like I used to be able to.  What’s doubly frustrating is my old desktop with Windows 10 ran the program just fine. I get the same blocking on my new desktop as I do with the laptop.  I have a very old, very small and slow laptop with Windows 7 that I can still use but still would like to upgrade to a larger screen to help my old eyes?
Anybody have any suggestions?  Thanks,

Peter


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

peterebherron
 

Group.  I’d like to revisit this issue if I may.  I have a laptop with Windows 10 installed which was set up by an expert with myself set up as the administrator. I have tried all three methods outlined by google AS THE ADMINISTRATOR to install the drivers and cannot get past the message that my actions were blocked and I need to contact the administrator!  I have also discovered I cannot restore the computer to an earlier time to ditch whichever upgrade is causing the problem like I used to be able to.  What’s doubly frustrating is my old desktop with Windows 10 ran the program just fine. I get the same blocking on my new desktop as I do with the laptop.  I have a very old, very small and slow laptop with Windows 7 that I can still use but still would like to upgrade to a larger screen to help my old eyes?
Anybody have any suggestions?  Thanks,

Peter


Re: Horn change

Lou
 

Bruce, I would put the engine on a program track and see if I could read that CV. Then I would make one change and write it to the decoder to see how it works. I would not use a write all command, especially on a sound decoder. Are you sure you have the correct CV number and correct values?

Lou

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of burrettmd
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:14 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] Horn change

 

Hey gang, so I have an atlas0 2 rail SW type diesel switcher with factory DCC. I’ve grown tired of the horn and thought I would see if I’ve really learned anything about decoder pro. I’ve looked up the CV , I think I need to change CV 55 to get a different horn. I looked up the atlas CV’s had found a five chime,  which I know is ridiculous for this little switcher, but I just wanted to see a difference so I think I’ve programmed CV 55 as 13.  I’ve written changes to all sheets but nothing has changed.  I’m using the programming track and a program track booster. . Am I missing something? Or is this a case where you can’t really go in and change one CV because this is maybe a  titan decoder ?
Thanks, Bruce in Mount Airy, Maryland


Re: CV Manager

Lou
 

Jay,

     Not quite sure what you are asking but I’ll give it a shot. CVManager is a program like Decoder Pro for programming and storing decoder information. It is the best, IMO, for programming QSI decoders. It will work with non QSI decoders, but only limited CV’s and to do so you must know specifically what each CV is for. It is not guided like Decoder Pro is.

     CVManager is built to work with the QSI programmer. The programmer will not work with non-QSI decoders, although at one time it did work. However, CVManager will work with the NCE command station, but only with the NCE programming track. When working with QSI decoders I would get everything working with CVManager. When I was happy with the operation I would then use Decoder Pro to make a record of that decoder which I could then use like I did all my other decoders.

     Hope this helps.

 

Lou

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay Beckham
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:58 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: [QSIndustries] CV Manager

 

Does anyone know what CV Manager is in relationship to programming QSI decoders or as it applies to NCE?

Thanks, Jay


Horn change

burrettmd
 

Hey gang, so I have an atlas0 2 rail SW type diesel switcher with factory DCC. I’ve grown tired of the horn and thought I would see if I’ve really learned anything about decoder pro. I’ve looked up the CV , I think I need to change CV 55 to get a different horn. I looked up the atlas CV’s had found a five chime,  which I know is ridiculous for this little switcher, but I just wanted to see a difference so I think I’ve programmed CV 55 as 13.  I’ve written changes to all sheets but nothing has changed.  I’m using the programming track and a program track booster. . Am I missing something? Or is this a case where you can’t really go in and change one CV because this is maybe a  titan decoder ?
Thanks, Bruce in Mount Airy, Maryland


CV Manager

Jay Beckham
 

Does anyone know what CV Manager is in relationship to programming QSI decoders or as it applies to NCE?

Thanks, Jay


Re: Pilot Atlas GP9 Part #140291

Jay Beckham
 

Thanks, I will check them out.

 

Jay

 

From: QSIndustries@groups.io <QSIndustries@groups.io> On Behalf Of John KARL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 7:03 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Pilot Atlas GP9 Part #140291

 

http://www.ebaystores.com/That-Train-Place advertises Atlas parts


Re: Pilot Atlas GP9 Part #140291

John KARL
 


Pilot Atlas GP9 Part #140291

Jay Beckham
 

WTB two of these pilots for two engines damaged by USPS when mailed.

Atlas Part # 140291.  Atlas no longer has this part.

Jay Beckham


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Bob
 

I just added 3 photos of the driver install I use in the photo section under Bob’s install photos

Bob Cochran

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bob via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 11:37 AM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

 

All I do when I get major windows update is delete the driver. I have the drivers in a folder within folder for QSI. Then I follow instructions that Josh had they install correctly and it shows up as Quantum device in device manager. I have never had to delete the QSI CV manager or upgrade software and reinstall it. I will upload to the file area the information later today that I use. 

 


On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Dan Howard via groups.io <stm5468@...> wrote:

Thank you all for the informational replies.

Well...got it working & here's what I had to do:

Go into Device Manager and remove the Quantum Programmer from the devices on the machine.

Unplug the USB Cable

Delete the Quantum Programmer Software

Reconnect the USB cable and wait for computer to tell me that the Quantum Programmer was now connected and ready.

Go to device manager, right click on properties - it told me no drivers for this device.

Went through the driver process to select it as an SiLabs Device.
(had previously installed the drivers using the methods in the instructions).

Re-installed the software.

When the program now launches, it still tells me it may not be able to work properly, but now it indicates SiLabs USB Driver version 3.1.0.0. 

Click "OK" and the program works fine.

Only difference is now in device manager instead the Quantum programmer is not present, although "USBExpress Device" now appears in the Universal Serial Bus controllers tab.

In case you were wondering, the program still works after a reboot of the machine.

...will now wait and see what happens after the next Win10 update...

 


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Bob
 

All I do when I get major windows update is delete the driver. I have the drivers in a folder within folder for QSI. Then I follow instructions that Josh had they install correctly and it shows up as Quantum device in device manager. I have never had to delete the QSI CV manager or upgrade software and reinstall it. I will upload to the file area the information later today that I use. 



On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Dan Howard via groups.io <stm5468@...> wrote:

Thank you all for the informational replies.

Well...got it working & here's what I had to do:

Go into Device Manager and remove the Quantum Programmer from the devices on the machine.

Unplug the USB Cable

Delete the Quantum Programmer Software

Reconnect the USB cable and wait for computer to tell me that the Quantum Programmer was now connected and ready.

Go to device manager, right click on properties - it told me no drivers for this device.

Went through the driver process to select it as an SiLabs Device.
(had previously installed the drivers using the methods in the instructions).

Re-installed the software.

When the program now launches, it still tells me it may not be able to work properly, but now it indicates SiLabs USB Driver version 3.1.0.0. 

Click "OK" and the program works fine.

Only difference is now in device manager instead the Quantum programmer is not present, although "USBExpress Device" now appears in the Universal Serial Bus controllers tab.

In case you were wondering, the program still works after a reboot of the machine.

...will now wait and see what happens after the next Win10 update...


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Ed.Sauers
 

Dan,

I think the driver problem on happens when MS sends out a MAJOR update, some minor updates don't seem to cause the problem. It is stall a pain though!!

Glad you got it working

Ed Sauers


On 4/16/2020 10:00 AM, Dan Howard via groups.io wrote:
Thank you all for the informational replies.

Well...got it working & here's what I had to do:

Go into Device Manager and remove the Quantum Programmer from the devices on the machine.

Unplug the USB Cable

Delete the Quantum Programmer Software

Reconnect the USB cable and wait for computer to tell me that the Quantum Programmer was now connected and ready.

Go to device manager, right click on properties - it told me no drivers for this device.

Went through the driver process to select it as an SiLabs Device.
(had previously installed the drivers using the methods in the instructions).

Re-installed the software.

When the program now launches, it still tells me it may not be able to work properly, but now it indicates SiLabs USB Driver version 3.1.0.0. 

Click "OK" and the program works fine.

Only difference is now in device manager instead the Quantum programmer is not present, although "USBExpress Device" now appears in the Universal Serial Bus controllers tab.

In case you were wondering, the program still works after a reboot of the machine.

...will now wait and see what happens after the next Win10 update...


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Dan Howard
 

Thank you all for the informational replies.

Well...got it working & here's what I had to do:

Go into Device Manager and remove the Quantum Programmer from the devices on the machine.

Unplug the USB Cable

Delete the Quantum Programmer Software

Reconnect the USB cable and wait for computer to tell me that the Quantum Programmer was now connected and ready.

Go to device manager, right click on properties - it told me no drivers for this device.

Went through the driver process to select it as an SiLabs Device.
(had previously installed the drivers using the methods in the instructions).

Re-installed the software.

When the program now launches, it still tells me it may not be able to work properly, but now it indicates SiLabs USB Driver version 3.1.0.0. 

Click "OK" and the program works fine.

Only difference is now in device manager instead the Quantum programmer is not present, although "USBExpress Device" now appears in the Universal Serial Bus controllers tab.

In case you were wondering, the program still works after a reboot of the machine.

...will now wait and see what happens after the next Win10 update...


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Bob
 

Go to this web page click on HO sound set then click on manuals then find the one for the programmer it’s the second listed and the near end there is instructions for windows 10. This what I follow and as said before never had a problem installing them.   https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/160rqzGv9KTPXmoFxgmY1sVKH_Oo_MHnp

 

Bob Cochran

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Howard via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 6:25 PM
To: QSIndustries@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QSIndustries] Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

 

Ed - thank you and yes, already tried this method.

Kelly - thank you.  My wife just purchased a new laptop.  When she is absolutely done with the old one, will try to "downgrade" the machine to an earlier version of Win10 by removing upgrades and see if that will work.

-Dan

 


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Bob
 

I use Windows 10 laptop and every time a major update is done I have to reinstall the driver. I follow the instructions that Josh had on his website and never had a problem. I’m on my second windows 10 laptop right now. 
Bob Cochran 



On Apr 15, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dan Howard via groups.io <stm5468@...> wrote:

Ed - thank you and yes, already tried this method.

Kelly - thank you.  My wife just purchased a new laptop.  When she is absolutely done with the old one, will try to "downgrade" the machine to an earlier version of Win10 by removing upgrades and see if that will work.

-Dan


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Dan Howard
 

Ed - thank you and yes, already tried this method.

Kelly - thank you.  My wife just purchased a new laptop.  When she is absolutely done with the old one, will try to "downgrade" the machine to an earlier version of Win10 by removing upgrades and see if that will work.

-Dan


Re: Microsoft Windows 10 update tanks Quantum Programmer

Ed.Sauers
 

Dan,

In order to install the Si Labs driver you must 1st restart your machine by holding the"shift" key depressed to set it to allow you to install an unsigned driver. Best if you google "windows unsigned drivers installation" and get the complete procedure to accomplish this.

Ed Sauers

On 4/15/2020 5:51 PM, Dan Howard via groups.io wrote:
Not sure if anyone else has experienced this yet (or has a fix/workaround).

When trying to use the Quantum programmer on my Windows 10 machine, I get an error window titled, "SiLabs USB Driver 3.2 Not Installed" with the error message, "QuantumUpgrade may not work properly with the installed SiLabs USB Driver version 0.0.0.0"

The program starts properly, then if you select "Locomotive Information", you get a Communications Error message that states, "Cannot establish a connection to the Quantum Programmer.

So...thinking I could just download & reinstall the driver, when I try to launch the install file, a "User Account Control" window pops up stating:

"This app has been blocked for your protection.  An Administrator has blocked you from running this app.  For more information contact the administrator.
QP_USBXp_Installer.exe

Publisher: Unknown
File origin: Hard drive on this computer
Program location: "<directory and name of file>"

I tried running the program as an administrator, booting to allow an unknown publisher (as listed in the instructions), and even running the program as an administrator via a command prompt window all to no avail.

Has anyone else come across and resolved this issue?

-Dan Howard

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