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Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

Benjamin Shell
 

Kelly, wow, the mysteries of QSIS continue. Very interesting. Thanks for explaining.

Ben


On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:48 PM kelly.dorf@... [QSIndustries] <QSIndustries@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ben:


No it does not use the HP device. QSI designed the replacement device for QSIS, which you found on ebay, but as far as I know, QSIS never placed them into production. I suspect there are only a handful of these (on ebay) in existence. Just my opinion based on what I know.

Kelly


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

kelly dorf
 

Hi Ben:

No it does not use the HP device. QSI designed the replacement device for QSIS, which you found on ebay, but as far as I know, QSIS never placed them into production. I suspect there are only a handful of these (on ebay) in existence. Just my opinion based on what I know.

Kelly


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

Benjamin Shell
 

Kelly,

That's interesting. Does the design you guys own use the HP RXM-9000-HP3-PPO chip? Because it's obsolete... Josh says it was lot of work to redesign to work with a new radio chip. I hope this redesign effort hasn't been lost.

Ben


On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 6:38 PM kelly.dorf@... [QSIndustries] <QSIndustries@...> wrote:
 

We at QSI have no knowledge of anyone producing this item. QSI owns the design, and we could make G wire receivers if there is sufficient interest.


Kelly
QSI


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

kelly dorf
 

We at QSI have no knowledge of anyone producing this item. QSI owns the design, and we could make G wire receivers if there is sufficient interest.

Kelly
QSI


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

Benjamin Shell
 

The new G-Wire board was produced, it's just that for some reason Josh never advertised it. It has an updated lower cost chip--the original was expensive and finally discontinued--and it seems to be available on eBay now:
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Gwire-Receiver-Wireless-receiver-for-QSI-Decoders-/232414994165

Whoever is selling these seems to be from near where Josh lives, and it might even be Josh or his wife. But I heard from another member of this group that they ordered one and it arrived. But I have no personal experience with these so buyer beware.

Ben


On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:29 PM astarrnce@... [QSIndustries] <QSIndustries@...> wrote:
 

Kevin,


Don't know if you started installation of the Titans in your O scale, but I installed 21 of them in a variety of steam locos in 2013.  I really tried to overheat the first install to make sure I was safe but it and the subsequent installs have worked fine.  I did remotor 2 older US Honnies locos. 

Good luck with the wireless 


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

adam starr
 

Kevin,

Don't know if you started installation of the Titans in your O scale, but I installed 21 of them in a variety of steam locos in 2013.  I really tried to overheat the first install to make sure I was safe but it and the subsequent installs have worked fine.  I did remotor 2 older US Honnies locos. 

Good luck with the wireless 


Re: Loco reset

kjlovesya
 

Hi Variel,

  It's funny, your message  didn't show up on my computer until today.   The reset is different for different decoder manufacturers.   You can find out the manufacturer by finding the value of CV 8 on the programming track.

  If the decoder is QSI you can find the value by doing a query. Programming on the Main set CV 64 = 8.  If the decoder 'speaks' it's QSI version 7 or above.   If the decoder says CV 8 = 1 1 3  it's QSI version 7 or above.   If the decoder doesn't speak, but you know it's a QSI decoder, check for dirt on the wheels and track.

The QSI decoders can be reset to factory default by Programming on the Main or on the programming track.   Note that when the decoder has reset the new address (the only address the decoder will respond to until programmed again) will be short address 3

  You will also have to reset all the other configuration CVs and speed adjustments.

To reset:

CV 49 = 128

CV 50 = 255

CV 56 = 113


Good luck and let us know how it goes.  We are here if you need help.

KJ


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

Nicholas Geti
 

I am into O scale so I would be happy with a wireless interface for the Titan-U. Power rating for my needs is much less than for LGB scale.

My layout will be outdoors where there is more room than a basement but still not as much as needed for LGB.

In my case ten wireless receivers would be enough. Why not offer a circuit diagram and let hobbyists design a PCB with a list of components and let users assemble the units. I know how to solder SMDs so that would not be so onerous.



Nick Geti


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

Kevin Strong
 

Without the large-scale version of the Titan in production (into which the G-wire receiver plugs), there's probably not much future market. Bring the large scale Titan (especially the 23-pin plug-and-play form factor) back on line, and your market for the G-wire receiver revives itself. 

Later,

K

On Nov 3, 2017, at 11:47, kelly.dorf@... [QSIndustries] <QSIndustries@...> wrote:

 

Hi all:


The QSI G-wire has fallen back into the hands of QSI. I could certainly produce some if I knew how many a "slew" is.

Kelly
QSI


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

kelly dorf
 

Hi all:

The QSI G-wire has fallen back into the hands of QSI. I could certainly produce some if I knew how many a "slew" is.

Kelly
QSI


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

mforsyth127
 

>Is this controller the one developed by QSISolutions for NCE? 

No, this is the controller developed by NCE to be compatible with BOTH the QSI Gwire and the CVP Airwire receivers. The Gwire Receiver is no longer made, but the CVP Airwire is. This throttle can also be plugged into any NCE command station and as a fully functional ProCab.

>It looks like an excellent product but has it been discontinued with the demise of QSISolutions or has NCE picked it up? I would not want to commit to this product if there is no future for it.

(still a very useful device, see above). 

There is/was a slew of G Scale guys hollering for the mfg. of new Gwire Receivers, just about the time Josh was going down the tubes. He kept saying he was going to produce them, but never did. All the fellas that were sitting on Titan Magnums that wanted a companion, plug-n-play G-wire receiver, I have one available...brand new.

Thanks, 

MF


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

Nicholas Geti
 

Is this controller the one developed by QSISolutions for NCE? It looks like an excellent product but has it been discontinued with the demise of QSISolutions or has NCE picked it up? I would not want to commit to this product if there is no future for it.

Nick Geti


Re: G Wire Receiver and G Wire Throttle...

mforsyth127
 

Folks, 


Have for sale BRAND NEW, NEVER USED, QSI G Wire Receiver, and NCE G Wire Throttle.


New in original packaging with documentation... 


Want $125 for the Receiver, $175 for the Throttle, sell as a pair for $275. 


Contact me directly at mforsyth127 at yahoo dot com.


Thanks,


MF



Re: Loco reset

Varlei Guimarães Novaes
 

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Re: Wireless controllers

Nicholas Geti
 

I Googled the expression, "DCC Packet Analyzer", as you suggested and found the following items:

1. Pricom Pocket Analyzer, http://www.pricom.com/Trains/DCCTester.shtml. There are none available on eBay but I got an answer from them that they will have a new model soon. This web site gives a very complete description of what it does and many examples.

2. OpenDCC http://opendcc.sourceforge.net/ This is a massive Sourceforge project which is developing major applications for model railroading. Projects are based on Arduino which interfaces with a PC.

3. ODCC Sniffer – Packet Analyser with Arduino https://rudysmodelrailway.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/dcc-sniffer-packet-analyser-with-arduino/  This fellow has been working on model railroad apps using the Arduino for many years. Very extensive library of free apps including rr simulations. Beautiful interface on the PC. Only hardware required is the Arduino and and optocoupler to connect to the track or decoder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2eJa6SEmM You must see his videos on rr simulation. Very impressive.

4. Model Rectifier Corporation-Decoder Dr. DCC Decoder Tester See eBay  https://www.modelrectifier.com/searchresults.asp?Search=analyzer&Submit= Handheld controller. Not as elegant as the other units that display stuff on the PC.

5. NCE Manual: https://ncedcc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200979515-Packet-Analyzer-Retired This unit is no longer in production.

6. OpenDCC https://www.opendcc.de/index_e.html  This fellow has implemented his version of this technique. He is a German hobbyist and sells a PCB that contains his sniffer design. He also sells all of the SMD components required. He claims German law does not allow selling assembled PCBs. It requires skill to solder SMDs.

Nicholas Geti


Re: Wireless controllers

peteski7
 

Sorry, I misread the info Jay. I must have been half asleep. I misinterpreted the statement about "Stefan Trachsler's Loconet Checker software". That software needs the DCC Tester to operate.

There can't be any sort of DCC sniffer on a PC without having some sort of interface  which will listen to the DCC packets on the track and make them into info which the PC will understand.

I guess then the only option is to try and find one of those DCC Pocket Tester devices.

Peteski


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I went to the link but couldn’t find any information about a Freeware PC DCC tester.

 

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Re: Wireless controllers

Jay Beckham
 

I went to the link but couldn’t find any information about a Freeware PC DCC tester.

 

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Yes,
http://www.pricom.com/Trains/DCCTester.shtml  should fit the bill perfectly. I own one and it can capture DCC packet dumps and give you live view of the DCC communication.  Very handy.  Unfortunately it is no longer manufactured, but you might find it in a 2nd-hand market (like eBay).  If you go to the link above they are recommending a freeware PC DCC analyzer.  Or you can Google for "DCC packet analyzer" or similar search pattern and you might find a match for what you are looking for.

Peteski



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Can someone suggest how to analyze the digital stream fed to the Titan? I am thinking of getting a PC-based oscilloscope/logic analyzer to look at the bit streams to see if I can detect any errors.


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Re: Wireless controllers

peteski7
 

Yes,
http://www.pricom.com/Trains/DCCTester.shtml  should fit the bill perfectly. I own one and it can capture DCC packet dumps and give you live view of the DCC communication.  Very handy.  Unfortunately it is no longer manufactured, but you might find it in a 2nd-hand market (like eBay).  If you go to the link above they are recommending a freeware PC DCC analyzer.  Or you can Google for "DCC packet analyzer" or similar search pattern and you might find a match for what you are looking for.

Peteski


---In QSIndustries@..., <ngeti@...> wrote :


Can someone suggest how to analyze the digital stream fed to the Titan? I am thinking of getting a PC-based oscilloscope/logic analyzer to look at the bit streams to see if I can detect any errors.


Re: Wireless controllers

Nicholas Geti
 

Yes. I figured that is the solution if nothing else works. Also I can wire the battery so it can be manually disconnected when the engines are put away for the night. I don't need a fancy way to shut down from the handheld controller.
 
Nick Geti
 


Re: Wireless controllers

Nicholas Geti
 

Yes. I bought the full system from him when he was working with the QSI a year or two ago. But it wasn't until this past month I have gotten back into building my railroad which is when I discovered the problem. He spent a fair amount of time trying to help me but finally said he gives up on the QSI and won't support it any more. He only works now with Soundtraxx.
 
Nick Geti
 

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