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Re: Q Programmer: no communication

Nick
 

Chris,

From experience, it sounds like the current limiting resistor is blown. This happens if you are using the programmer to test the decoder and a short occurred on the programming track. I have done this more than once and from your description, this sounds like what happened. The resistor acts like a fuse. In the event of a short, it self-destructs instead of more valuable parts getting destroyed.

Open up the case and look at where the outputs are located. It is located at the top of the circuit board in the center. It will be pretty obvious if it is blown. Mine usually has one side "lifted" or the resistor actually splits in two. It is pretty easy to replace if you can use a low watt soldering iron. If it is beyond your skill level, find a friend that is comfortable doing it.

Jerry can probably tell you the correct part to get. I purchase them in bulk <grin>

Regards,
Nick Kulp


Re: Q Programmer: no communication

Ed Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Chris,

I think you need Jerry Pruss or Josh at this point..\

Sorry

Ed



On 11/27/2016 6:58 PM, christophermcrane@... [QSIndustries] wrote:
 

Before the communication interruption, I was testing both an aftermarket 4 amp Magnum and a 10 amp Titan. I was able to use the test cab to play sounds and the CV manager to read out CV values.


I did attempt to change the horn selection on the Titan, but it would not change the setting. I followed the index chart for any items I attempted to read.


Thanks, Chris





Re: Q Programmer: no communication

christophermcrane
 

Before the communication interruption, I was testing both an aftermarket 4 amp Magnum and a 10 amp Titan. I was able to use the test cab to play sounds and the CV manager to read out CV values.


I did attempt to change the horn selection on the Titan, but it would not change the setting. I followed the index chart for any items I attempted to read.


Thanks, Chris


Re: Q Programmer: no communication

Ed Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Christopher,

What decoder (mfg/model) are you trying to program?

Thanks

Ed




On 11/27/2016 4:40 PM, christophermcrane@... [QSIndustries] wrote:
 

Ben, yes an error it cannot read the mfg. Also a RS232 error.
the system sees the programmer and indicates it is working correctly. when querying it acts as though it cannot access the track.

Ed, the link you provided ultimately gives you a choice of two drivers after unzipping: a USB and a virtual USB COM. I let the install choose the driver which it appears to do successfully.

software appears to function OK. I suspect a hardware issue.





Re: Q Programmer: no communication

christophermcrane
 

Ben, yes an error it cannot read the mfg. Also a RS232 error.
the system sees the programmer and indicates it is working correctly. when querying it acts as though it cannot access the track.

Ed, the link you provided ultimately gives you a choice of two drivers after unzipping: a USB and a virtual USB COM. I let the install choose the driver which it appears to do successfully.

software appears to function OK. I suspect a hardware issue.


Re: Q Programmer: no communication

Ed Sauers <dockside98@...>
 

Christopher,

You should be using the the driver that states it's for

SiLabs Drivers for Windows:  2k, XP, Vista 32, 7, 8, 8.1, 10

Ed Sauers


On 11/27/2016 11:09 AM, christophermcrane@... [QSIndustries] wrote:
 

My Quantum Programmer suddenly stopped communicating with the test track I use for programming.

The first indication was not being able to read a decoder using the Q upgrade, same result using the CV manager. I get either 'cannot read mfg.' or a RS232 error.


I've verified the 'track' was enabled and the programmer receives power. I am confused as to which is the correct SiLab driver for my WinXP system: the virtual port or USB, even though it is connected through a USB port. I have been unable to verify whether the driver installed has changed.


I got to the point where I upgraded both the CVM and Q Upgrade to the latest available versions. I also uninstalled the programmer and drivers, and re-installed everything.


The programmer worked fine one day, then not the next. Tried on both an aftermarket QSI decoder and a OEM Q3 decoder.

I have seen comments about a resistor blowing in the programmer. Is there a way to test the hardware?





Re: Q Programmer: no communication

Benjamin Shell
 

Are you getting an error? Or does the programmer appear to be working on the computer side, but just doesn't seem to be doing anything? I'm guessing here, but if the resister is blown it'd be the later and the programmer would still be recognized by the computer, it would just be unable to communicate with the track. I've also been told to open up the programmer and see if the resister looks damaged. It's a large surface mount resister that's prominently visible--although I don't have a photo handy.





On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:09 AM christophermcrane@... [QSIndustries] <QSIndustries@...> wrote:

My Quantum Programmer suddenly stopped communicating with the test track I use for programming.

The first indication was not being able to read a decoder using the Q upgrade, same result using the CV manager. I get either 'cannot read mfg.' or a RS232 error.


I've verified the 'track' was enabled and the programmer receives power. I am confused as to which is the correct SiLab driver for my WinXP system: the virtual port or USB, even though it is connected through a USB port. I have been unable to verify whether the driver installed has changed.


I got to the point where I upgraded both the CVM and Q Upgrade to the latest available versions. I also uninstalled the programmer and drivers, and re-installed everything.


The programmer worked fine one day, then not the next. Tried on both an aftermarket QSI decoder and a OEM Q3 decoder.

I have seen comments about a resistor blowing in the programmer. Is there a way to test the hardware?


Q Programmer: no communication

christophermcrane
 

My Quantum Programmer suddenly stopped communicating with the test track I use for programming.

The first indication was not being able to read a decoder using the Q upgrade, same result using the CV manager. I get either 'cannot read mfg.' or a RS232 error.


I've verified the 'track' was enabled and the programmer receives power. I am confused as to which is the correct SiLab driver for my WinXP system: the virtual port or USB, even though it is connected through a USB port. I have been unable to verify whether the driver installed has changed.


I got to the point where I upgraded both the CVM and Q Upgrade to the latest available versions. I also uninstalled the programmer and drivers, and re-installed everything.


The programmer worked fine one day, then not the next. Tried on both an aftermarket QSI decoder and a OEM Q3 decoder.

I have seen comments about a resistor blowing in the programmer. Is there a way to test the hardware?


Re: Installation a Current Keeper on a Titan-U

kelly dorf
 

It's all covered on page 13 of the Titan U install guide found here: http://media.wix.com/ugd/ 0f7119_ a38d120ba23640d5878a0849026aee 26.pdf
No need to remove anything. Just connect the blue wire on the current keeper to the blue wire on the decoder and the black wire on the current keeper to to the black wire with the white stripe on the decoder. This will make it impossible to download new sound files via the programmer without first disconnecting the current keeper.

You can always email support@... for help too.

Kelly
QSI


Installation a Current Keeper on a Titan-U

Ed Rappe
 

I'm about to install a Soundtraxx Current Keeper(CK) in a diesel with a Titan-U already installed (and working beautifully).  From what I've found on Mar Gurries DCC web site the Soundtraxx CK is virtually the same as the same as a TCS's Keep Alive and have read the KA installation guidance in the Titan-U Installation manual.  Following that I plan to connect the CK's blue + wire to the Titan-U's blue +12v wire, and the CK's black - wire to the black/white wire on the decoder .  


Questions

- should I sever the Titan-U's small wired capacitor from the decoder?

- are there any other issues to consider when installing/programming the decoder with a CK attached?

( I typically use a QSI Programmer when setting up QSI decoders, but have the coption of using JMRI or a workbench NCE PowerCab for programming and testing)


Comments?.

thanks

Ed Rappe



Re: Atlas Trainmaster woes

litespan46
 

As I remember cut the reed switch out . I did it on an atlas engine long time ago and it solved the resetting problem 

        Gene Gleason 


On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Bob Menzies railscanner@... [QSIndustries] <QSIndustries@...> wrote:

Had a friend show up with a NIB Atlas Ho scale Trainmaster put it on my programming track and it tried to reset constantly. This is a version 7 with a reed switch. I am thinking it has a bad reed switch I tried a hard dc reset with no luck. Any one have ideas for a fix?/ TIA Bob Menzies...


On Nov 14, 2016 11:34 AM, "Steven Lansing steven_lansing@... [QSIndustries]" <QSIndustries@...> wrote:
 

Great to hear :)


On Friday, November 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Benjamin Shell benjaminshell@... [QSIndustries]" <QSIndustries@...> wrote:


 
Hello again everyone,

I just wanted to follow up here since I did receive some direct replies to my inquiry. Josh and QSI Solutions are alive and well, and large scale Titans are available.

I just had a great phone call with Josh, and we spoke about everything from product availability to software engineering to sound engineering to customer support. I've always been impressed with the engineering aspects of QSI--and they continue to get better--so that's never been an issue for me. But selling product is what pays the bills and helps make the engineering efforts all worth it, so I discussed some ideas with Josh about improving customer and reseller support (based on my experiences at a software product company). I'm hopefully that this will help more people be able to obtain and use the products successfully.



On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Benjamin Shell <benjaminshell@...> wrote:
Are large scale QSI Titans available anywhere? I was able to find a couple more this last summer, but now a friend of mine wants one and can't find any.

His preferred dealer said: "We unfortunately are back in a situation where we cannot communicate with QSI as they are not answering phone calls or emails. This has been going on for a couple of years now."

Is this the end of QSI? I sure hope not. I want more Titans myself; there's nothing comparable that I've heard in large scale.

Any insight? Thanks.






Atlas Trainmaster woes

Bob Menzies <railscanner@...>
 

Had a friend show up with a NIB Atlas Ho scale Trainmaster put it on my programming track and it tried to reset constantly. This is a version 7 with a reed switch. I am thinking it has a bad reed switch I tried a hard dc reset with no luck. Any one have ideas for a fix?/ TIA Bob Menzies...


On Nov 14, 2016 11:34 AM, "Steven Lansing steven_lansing@... [QSIndustries]" <QSIndustries@...> wrote:
 

Great to hear :)


On Friday, November 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Benjamin Shell benjaminshell@... [QSIndustries]" <QSIndustries@...> wrote:


 
Hello again everyone,

I just wanted to follow up here since I did receive some direct replies to my inquiry. Josh and QSI Solutions are alive and well, and large scale Titans are available.

I just had a great phone call with Josh, and we spoke about everything from product availability to software engineering to sound engineering to customer support. I've always been impressed with the engineering aspects of QSI--and they continue to get better--so that's never been an issue for me. But selling product is what pays the bills and helps make the engineering efforts all worth it, so I discussed some ideas with Josh about improving customer and reseller support (based on my experiences at a software product company). I'm hopefully that this will help more people be able to obtain and use the products successfully.



On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Benjamin Shell <benjaminshell@...> wrote:
Are large scale QSI Titans available anywhere? I was able to find a couple more this last summer, but now a friend of mine wants one and can't find any.

His preferred dealer said: "We unfortunately are back in a situation where we cannot communicate with QSI as they are not answering phone calls or emails. This has been going on for a couple of years now."

Is this the end of QSI? I sure hope not. I want more Titans myself; there's nothing comparable that I've heard in large scale.

Any insight? Thanks.






Re: QSI Titan availability?

Steven Lansing
 

Great to hear :)


On Friday, November 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Benjamin Shell benjaminshell@... [QSIndustries]"


 
Hello again everyone,

I just wanted to follow up here since I did receive some direct replies to my inquiry. Josh and QSI Solutions are alive and well, and large scale Titans are available.

I just had a great phone call with Josh, and we spoke about everything from product availability to software engineering to sound engineering to customer support. I've always been impressed with the engineering aspects of QSI--and they continue to get better--so that's never been an issue for me. But selling product is what pays the bills and helps make the engineering efforts all worth it, so I discussed some ideas with Josh about improving customer and reseller support (based on my experiences at a software product company). I'm hopefully that this will help more people be able to obtain and use the products successfully.



On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Benjamin Shell <benjaminshell@...> wrote:
Are large scale QSI Titans available anywhere? I was able to find a couple more this last summer, but now a friend of mine wants one and can't find any.

His preferred dealer said: "We unfortunately are back in a situation where we cannot communicate with QSI as they are not answering phone calls or emails. This has been going on for a couple of years now."

Is this the end of QSI? I sure hope not. I want more Titans myself; there's nothing comparable that I've heard in large scale.

Any insight? Thanks.





Re: QSI Titan availability?

Benjamin Shell
 

Hello again everyone,

I just wanted to follow up here since I did receive some direct replies to my inquiry. Josh and QSI Solutions are alive and well, and large scale Titans are available.

I just had a great phone call with Josh, and we spoke about everything from product availability to software engineering to sound engineering to customer support. I've always been impressed with the engineering aspects of QSI--and they continue to get better--so that's never been an issue for me. But selling product is what pays the bills and helps make the engineering efforts all worth it, so I discussed some ideas with Josh about improving customer and reseller support (based on my experiences at a software product company). I'm hopefully that this will help more people be able to obtain and use the products successfully.



On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Benjamin Shell <benjaminshell@...> wrote:
Are large scale QSI Titans available anywhere? I was able to find a couple more this last summer, but now a friend of mine wants one and can't find any.

His preferred dealer said: "We unfortunately are back in a situation where we cannot communicate with QSI as they are not answering phone calls or emails. This has been going on for a couple of years now."

Is this the end of QSI? I sure hope not. I want more Titans myself; there's nothing comparable that I've heard in large scale.

Any insight? Thanks.



QSI Titan availability?

Benjamin Shell
 

Are large scale QSI Titans available anywhere? I was able to find a couple more this last summer, but now a friend of mine wants one and can't find any.

His preferred dealer said: "We unfortunately are back in a situation where we cannot communicate with QSI as they are not answering phone calls or emails. This has been going on for a couple of years now."

Is this the end of QSI? I sure hope not. I want more Titans myself; there's nothing comparable that I've heard in large scale.

Any insight? Thanks.


Re: Amp Rating: QSI OEM decoder

christophermcrane
 

Yes it does, thanks.

I use a NCE 408 in a pair of Weaver RS11 and run both without issue. I want to replace that with the QSI board to add sound.



Re: Amp Rating: QSI OEM decoder

kelly dorf
 

This is the answer I received from engineering:

We don't have a rating, but on an OEM Atlas engine will do at least 4 amps.
He would be hard pressed to overload it.

I hope this helps
Kelly


Re: ATTN: QSI - update request

Steven Lansing
 

I would also be interested if QSI could add such a feature :)
 
"I see that Soundtraxx has added an Independent Brake feature.   Okay, it's not as realistic as the QSI fully adjustable Automatic (train) 'Air' brake but it is setup as a distinct operating brake that stops the locomotives at a different rate than their regular, non variable Train Brake.

  I respectfully request an independent adjustable locomotive brake (perhaps using a separate momentum table) that operates similar to the F7 brake.  The separate momentum table would allow different operating characteristics were a locomotive engineer to use one brake or the other.   Can it be done guys?"



On Thursday, October 20, 2016 3:16 PM, "kjlovesya@... [QSIndustries]" wrote:


 
Addendum to request:

  I see that Soundtraxx has added an Independent Brake feature.   Okay, it's not as realistic as the QSI fully adjustable Automatic (train) 'Air' brake but it is setup as a distinct operating brake that stops the locomotives at a different rate than their regular, non variable Train Brake.

  I respectfully request an independent adjustable locomotive brake (perhaps using a separate momentum table) that operates similar to the F7 brake.  The separate momentum table would allow different operating characteristics were a locomotive engineer to use one brake or the other.   Can it be done guys?



  Further, I'm reading that Iowa Engineering is teaming up with ESU for a portable control stand throttle.   Since ESU doesn't bother with NMRA momentum multiplier recommendations (or CV23 / CV 24 momentum adjusters) it seems they are looking at adjusting speed tables in collaboration with their own minimized momentum settings (roughly 1/4 the value of NMRA CV3 / CV4 settings) to simulate load changes.   I'm not sure what ESU uses for CV 25 speed table graphs.   I know that Soundtraxx mirrors the faster acceleration values (CV 25 = 2 to 7 ?) but does not share the same for the slower graph settings.  If QSI is to have any kind of compatibility, with what could be a game changer, perhaps it would be a good idea to be able to assign the graph values variable numbers (in order to match what will be required by the I.E. throttle).




  Many manufacturers are converting to  21 pin connectors.   Is QSI planning on doing the same?  I realize that the QSI Titan has more pins, but, in several instances, several of the pins on the 'factory mother board' connectors are not used.  Perhaps the second speaker pair, plus things like chuff cam, reset etc. can be the extra wires.  Some are used, some are not, depending on the application.

Gerry?  Kelly?  Josh?

Best regards,
KJ



Amp Rating: QSI OEM decoder

christophermcrane
 

I am trying to figure out the amp rating for a QSI 4000 hardware series decoder, installed as OEM in an O Scale Atlas engine.


Using the Q2 upgrade & CV manager programs has not yielded any answers.

Any help is appreciated, thank you.


Re: Tech Question

kjlovesya
 

Thanks Gerry!   Good to know when I'm setting up consists for others at the club.   I read that the Tsunami 2 is capped at 255.   Personally, I run QSI lashups with very high decel momentum.   It adds to the realism when, for example, doing a minimal brake application on the main line.

KJ

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