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QDX and HF Pager. Here is my mobile station setup.
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J
That's it, other than the 40M Hamstick on the rear bumper and a qrp tuner, which could be replaced with a cheap manual tuner. That's an On The Go (OTG) cable on the cell phone. Swapped messages with the home station as far as 354 miles away and no skip hole, either. Tested every few miles out to 50 miles and more sparsely the rest of the way. The QDX and cable stow away into the cup holder when not in use. The Hamstick is on a quick disconnect and I toss it in the car when I want the car to look 'respectable'. I use the little utility program inside the QDX to set and forget the frequency for our local ham group. The Hamstick antennas are basically leaky dummy loads, which attests to the ability of the QDX and HF Pager software to dig for signals. I would encourage everyone to take a look at this mode. It works stunningly well for me. Jim W7LS |
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Roy Appleton
Thanks for the heads up! Looks interesting indeed! Roy WA0YMH
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Seems very interesting!
-- 73, Dan - W2DLC |
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Steve
Looks neat! What software are you running on your phone? Also what mode are you running? Thanks, Steve KY4GX Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. Luke 2:14
On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 12:21:24 PM EST, J via groups.io <w7ls@...> wrote:
That's it, other than the 40M Hamstick on the rear bumper and a qrp tuner, which could be replaced with a cheap manual tuner. That's an On The Go (OTG) cable on the cell phone. Swapped messages with the home station as far as 354 miles away and no skip hole, either. Tested every few miles out to 50 miles and more sparsely the rest of the way. The QDX and cable stow away into the cup holder when not in use. The Hamstick is on a quick disconnect and I toss it in the car when I want the car to look 'respectable'. I use the little utility program inside the QDX to set and forget the frequency for our local ham group. The Hamstick antennas are basically leaky dummy loads, which attests to the ability of the QDX and HF Pager software to dig for signals. I would encourage everyone to take a look at this mode. It works stunningly well for me. Jim W7LS |
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Tom
I've had good luck with a hamstick on a ball mount in the bed of my Toyota Tacoma, tuned the hamstick for the wspr freq. I've run this while on a few road trips using the 40 and 20 meter band. One of my friends here in the Bay Area watched my spots, really interesting how the spots on 20 increased as I drove over Donner Pass on I-80, elevation 7200 ft (2300 meters). I used a Zachtek, the 1" (2.5 cm) braid is because this truck has a composite bed so I need a counter poise. Tom, W6TOM On 2023-03-08 09:21, J via groups.io wrote:
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Tom
I've had good luck with a hamstick on a ball mount in the bed of my Toyota Tacoma, tuned the hamstick for the wspr freq. I've run this while on a few road trips using the 40 and 20 meter band. One of my friends here in the Bay Area watched my spots, really interesting how the spots on 20 increased as I drove over Donner Pass on I-80, elevation 7200 ft (2300 meters). I used a Zachtek, the 1" (2.5 cm) braid is because this truck has a composite bed so I need a counter poise. Tom, W6TOM On 2023-03-08 09:21, J via groups.io wrote:
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J
I am running a program called HF Pager. It's very new. Works on Android, Apple IOS, and Windows.
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KEN G4APB
Tom, I tried this on my Apple (IOS) ipad2 air without success.
1) The lightning to USB adaptor to QDX lead comes up with an error message --This product is not supported by Apple. 2) How does the programe know the QDX is connected? I see no receive audio nor transmit when I send a message. Any ideas please? 73 Ken G4APB |
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I just downloaded the app today and am curious about it. What frequency have people kind of settled on or is there any standardization there yet?
Frequency control is still obviously the hardest part at the moment unless you want to settle on one frequency and just let the QDX start up there. This makes me want to work on a serial CAT control option. Think about it, small microcontroller (ATTINY?), pre-programmed frequencies, one button to cycle through the frequencies. Seems like it might be easy enough. Joshua |
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Bob Parr
I am guessing, from what little research I have done on HF pager, that anyone can recieve your message, but they would have to either be there watching or have a version running when you sent the message and could then see it later.
Do I have that about right? Bob |
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J
There is a little utility program inside the QDX that allows you to set the default frequency. I do that and also turn on the VOX control there. Up here in Idaho/WA we just settled on 7065 after listening around. You can QSY up or down from the default 1700 frequency that HF Pager is set to. 5.9 baud seems to get through best on HF and it takes up 200 Hz of band, so you can have about 10 channels to choose from on the HF Pager menu. We sometimes move if another digital QSO it too close..
Jim |
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J
On the Android, I just plug in a OTG (On The Go) adapter (few dollars on Amazon) and then a USB A/b cord. That's it. On an Apple, I would assume it's similar, but really no idea.
Jim |
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J
Any HF Pager can receive and read the text messages and will store them until you delete them. At least I know all messages directed to you will be stored. Not quite sure about any old message directed at others.
Jim |
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Bob Parr
Great! now I need to buy and build a QDX! Knowing nothing about HF Pager, would the 80M - 20M be the better choice or the 20M - 10M?
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KEN G4APB
I tried this on my Apple (IOS) ipad2 air without success. I did say this before but no one commented.
1) The OTG adaptor to USB lead I purchased comes up with an error message --This product is not supported by Apple. I am running IOS 15.7.1. Anyone know a way around this please? Ken g4apb |
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 09:53 AM, KEN G4APB wrote:
Anyone know a way around this please?..we are spoiling the fine thread started by w7ls showing us his fine, enjoyable, highly desirable hf pager setup! Please excuse Jim ;-) To your question above dear OM Ken: I had and still have the same problem. My question has been answered somehow brisk and square by wise men in this group. Look at what Willie N1JBJ tells me in his message from: 11/21/22 #95215 I do not really like his answer, because he seems not to have fully understood my question. He simply assumes that I want FT8 on iPad. Now.. I never did say that nowhere, never spoke about FT8 and I must confess, I do not even know where the confusion comes from. Digital modes are not equal to FT8 for me and some other modes might be less requiring. But there seems to be some "method in the madness" because iPads seem to be very stubborn, narrow minded and paranoid in what connectivity is concerned. What you are using there is probably not a simple "OTG adaptor to USB" as one might wish to think, but an "ipad camera adapter" intended from it's makers for a surprisingly, disappointedly narrow use. I am neither an expert nor do I like the brave and beautiful fine new iPad world, but I was forced into it trough the use of my musical instrument and it's exclusive interface to the apple world. Never understood why audio processing for musical instruments works fine on any ipad, but ham software doesn't. Wish it would, but because it does not, I begin thinking it is more a political than a physical issue. Keep in touch and let me know if you suceeded to fit that "round pole into a square hole" as our friend N1JBJ writes. I think it should work somehow because those tiny tablets have enough digital brains to fly an Apollo to the moon. The problem seems to be their restrictive connectivity politics. Yours friendly, Razvan dl2arl |
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Michael N6MST
I'd never heard of HFP until your talk Monday night. Very good stuff!
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KEN G4APB
Hi Razvan,
thank you for your excellent reply. I was simply trying act upon the following statement made by another…. I am running a program called HF Pager. It's very new. Works on Android,, Apple IOS and Windows. No FT8 mentioned nor wanted. At the risk of ‘snarky comments’ , could someone tell me then exactly what Apple IOS machine has this been tried on? I have an iphone and and ipad, both run Apple IOS but not my OTG lead. I have no similar kit to run Android. I see some so called Apple OTG (otherwise know as ‘lightening to USB adaptors) advertised as ‘Apple Certified’ but at the same price as the ones not so labelled. I wonder if anyone has had more success with a ‘certified’ lead? 73 Ken g4apb |
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Also, I wonder if the iPhone and iPad have to be “jail broken” to work with some of these ham radio things. I have both but they are factory, not jail broken….. it’s been a while since I heard about a ham jail breaking his Apple products to use with apps that work on Android tools.
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I am not interested in jail breaking my Apple products but just thought about it after reading some of these emails. Dave K8WPE since 1960 David J. Wilcox’s iPad On Mar 16, 2023, at 5:28 AM, KEN G4APB <lfoofui.nbz42@...> wrote:
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 03:58 AM, David Wilcox K8WPE wrote:
jail breaking his Apple products to use with apps that work on Android tools.I think this is a deep misunderstanding. One probably will never live to see Oranges growing on Apple trees (i.e. Android jobs runing on Apple tablets). Jail brreaking is fancy for some other issues. I might be wrong, but this is definitely not the thread to discuss such things. I wish it was. 73, dl2arl |
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