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Lakes On The Air?
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Jim Manley
Hi Jack, et al, My resend attempts have all failed and I now realize that it’s the Groups.io e-mail reply formatter that’s screwing me, not (just?) GMail. However, what do I expect for “free” (not counting the buck-two-eighty value of my personal information!)? The software developers at those places each get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, but given the lack of visible changes, let alone improvements, in their services for upwards of a decade-plus, I have to ask what, exactly, they’re being paid to do? Anywaaay, Lakes(/Waterways?) On The Air suggests to me being _on_ a lake/waterway, along with the public interface being paramount in POTA and SOTA. However, most boaters aren’t usually very interested in other boats being in proximity, especially if they’re near their favorite secret fishing spots. Another problematic situation is when someone is into waterskiing at the time, and maxed-out boat racing would be a real challenge! I suppose the 19th-hole equivalent in boating is around boat docks/ramps, at least for those who haven’t yet made too big a dent in the contents of their coolers. A fortunate coincidence is that the largest fishing poles are often used to deploy portable antennas in remote environments, especially for SOTA, where practitioners are often thousands of feet in elevation above treelines. I can see a L/WOTA participant deployed on a craft that would put a Soviet/Russian signals intercept “trawler” to shame! Being the salty nautical dude that I am with well over half a century of boating and shipboard deployments all over the planet, long and deep experience developing and operating large data collection and processing systems (you may have heard of someplace nicknamed No Such Agency), and lots of experience in data sources for terrain and waterways mapping, charting, and geodesy (which covers natural and human-made lakes, rivers, canals, etc.), I’ll volunteer to kick off the L/WOTA community infrastructure. I’ll talk to fellow POTA and SOTA organization folks for shortcuts and other pointers to help achieve rapid success. Is that enough penance for my cute reply to your original question, Jack? Jim KJ7JHE |
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Yannig - F4IUJ
On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 04:56 AM, KK4ITX John wrote:
Mind is wandering here..... get away from OTA and got to HOTW “Ham On The Water”, that way some of the larger rivers could also be used..... thinking Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Connecticut and so many others, as long as you’re 50ft from shore, you’re in..... Ham on the water would work better here in Brittany as we have lot of creeks that would qualify whereas we don't have many lakes. I think you should get extra points for operating physically on the water! 73 Yannig F4IUJ |
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William Smith
Time spent on the water is not deducted from your lifespan. 8*)
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jjpurdum
Hi Jim: I would love it if you'd start the ball rolling. I would not want to "force" the rule of actually being on the water, as that might force some people who want to participate into buying some (unsafe) inflatable watercraft. Rather, I would like to see some measure "from the water's edge" being used as the criteria. Most of the others rules could be adopted from other OTA's. When the T41 project ends, I can do some programming although I haven't done much web programming since a lot of it is done in Java, and I'm not a fan. (Java is C with training wheels.) I think the first order of business is to register a web site and draw up a set of "rules" for an activation. Keep me posted on your plans. Jack, W8TEE
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 01:15:32 AM EST, Jim Manley <jim.manley.mscs@...> wrote:
Hi Jack, et al, My resend attempts have all failed and I now realize that it’s the Groups.io e-mail reply formatter that’s screwing me, not (just?) GMail. However, what do I expect for “free” (not counting the buck-two-eighty value of my personal information!)? The software developers at those places each get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, but given the lack of visible changes, let alone improvements, in their services for upwards of a decade-plus, I have to ask what, exactly, they’re being paid to do? Anywaaay, Lakes(/Waterways?) On The Air suggests to me being _on_ a lake/waterway, along with the public interface being paramount in POTA and SOTA. However, most boaters aren’t usually very interested in other boats being in proximity, especially if they’re near their favorite secret fishing spots. Another problematic situation is when someone is into waterskiing at the time, and maxed-out boat racing would be a real challenge! I suppose the 19th-hole equivalent in boating is around boat docks/ramps, at least for those who haven’t yet made too big a dent in the contents of their coolers. A fortunate coincidence is that the largest fishing poles are often used to deploy portable antennas in remote environments, especially for SOTA, where practitioners are often thousands of feet in elevation above treelines. I can see a L/WOTA participant deployed on a craft that would put a Soviet/Russian signals intercept “trawler” to shame! Being the salty nautical dude that I am with well over half a century of boating and shipboard deployments all over the planet, long and deep experience developing and operating large data collection and processing systems (you may have heard of someplace nicknamed No Such Agency), and lots of experience in data sources for terrain and waterways mapping, charting, and geodesy (which covers natural and human-made lakes, rivers, canals, etc.), I’ll volunteer to kick off the L/WOTA community infrastructure. I’ll talk to fellow POTA and SOTA organization folks for shortcuts and other pointers to help achieve rapid success. Is that enough penance for my cute reply to your original question, Jack? Jim KJ7JHE |
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jjpurdum
Yep...off the rails... Jack, W8TEE
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 11:58:40 PM EST, VA3NCA Wayde via groups.io <wayde@...> wrote:
I vote for AOTA , Air on the Air. (Stick with me, now...) Operate from aircraft, hot air balloon, parachute ( #HiCarlos ), or Trebuchet (briefly). Exchange is signal report, Gridsquare, and altitude above terrain... :-D
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Did QST just have a note about boats on the air ?? BOTA... Some guys set up something in the SF Bay as I remember and were illustrating the value of another OTA. W4PID |
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Leland L. Bahr
Life's too short to operate outside in Texas. You guys can do it, I'll just stay inside and watch Jerry Springer on TV. Lee, w0vt On 11/30/2022 10:01 PM, jjpurdum via
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Jim Strohm
Too hot?
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Well, it's 50F today in Texas (Austin) and it's TOO COLD! So I'm staying inside too. 73 Jim N6OTQ On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 1:38 PM Leland L. Bahr <w5drc@...> wrote:
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