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Nick Norman
Yes, I really do - with a vengeance :-(
QDX v2 completed and not found by the (easy to get at) windows 7 box in the shack, after a bit of 'mucking' about I can get audio out of it and I can find the mass storage device, if I do the correct dance with power etc. COM port - not so much. Yes I have installed the relevant STM VCP, I seem to remember that my other STM bits all worked OK ... rebooted, still no, re-installed the VCP and - guess what - yep, still no COM port. USB view see no COM port but does see the audio & QDX transciever Linux on the other hand - "it just works" (TM) so I foresee another RPI4 in my future (the 'doze box is only for 1 job, meteor pings from GRAVES - but am having trouble finding a similar set-up to SpectrumLab & Colourgramme) - or I suppose do a full fedora install on the box. Ideas anyone??? I'm computer literate but windows is a bit of a black art as far as I am concerned, a *nix CLI on the other hand :-) Regards all, Nick M0HGU p.s. I really, _really_, don't want to have to (try to) install windoze X -- The Battle of Koom Valley is the only one known to history where both sides ambushed each other. (Men at Arms) Mon 10387 Sep 19:05:01 GMT 1993 19:05:01 up 2 days, 4:22, 6 users, load average: 2.14, 1.63, 1.33 -- 73 Nick M0HGU |
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Alan G4ZFQ
USB view see no COM port but does see the audio & QDX transcieverNick https://groups.io/g/QRPLabs/message/79087 and probably other posts in the thread. 73 Alan G4ZFQ |
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On Feb 7, 2022, at 1:18 pm, Nick Norman <m0hgu@...> wrote: Windows and the Unix-based macOS lie at opposing extremes. 1. Hardware compatibility. I once asked someone who tested new versions of Windows for hardware compatibility how they ensured it worked with thousands of different Windows hardware out there. He said they only tested on the more common ones. For all the others, compatibility was up to the maker. That makes it hit or miss. Apple is the opposite. It makes all the computers macOS is to run on and only a limited number of those. The result is less choice but more compatibility, the infamous walled garden. I am not sure where Linux stands. If you have issues, you can probably find the source and fix the issues, assuming you know how. 2. OS change over time. To make happy its large business market, filled with older computers, Microsoft works to maintain backwards compatibility. That means app developers have only limited incentive to meet new specs because the old still work (sorta) in the latest Windows. In contrast, Apple sets drop dead dates for changes. For instance, for a time Macs ran both 32-bit and 64-bit software. For the last two versions of macOS, only 64 bit software will run. 32-bit apps will not run. In a few years the same shift will happen with the new Apple-designed chip sets. Those without an M-series chip can still use their Macs, but only with an older OS. Done right, this makes for more stability and faster processing. But is also means older Macs may not run the latest apps. So far, that’s not impacted me with my 10-year-old Mac mini. I am stuck two macOS versions back, but as far as I know there’s not an app I cannot run, although perhaps with some nagging issues (i.e Safari). And while macOS does have a *nix-root that is command line, with recent versions Apple, in the name of security, is making them harder and harder to invoke. Again, I am not sure where Linux stands. If I get into digital modes and the Mac-based ones give trouble, I plan to try Linux versions designed to run on it. Hopefully that will work even if Windows isn’t available to run on these new M-chips. 3. Tech v. User support. Windows is much loved in the tech support community in part because its complexities mean they’re needed. Macs are designed to require less tech support. They are supposed to ‘just work.’ Of course, if they don’t, you’re out of luck, as I have found. Don’t take that as gospel. I am a user not a tech. You might get a kick out of this illustration of tech support in a medieval monastery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUQRbqc2qtY And if you work in the corporate world, you’ll love this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg —Mike Perry, WA4MP |
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Brad Thompson
the sactoffsMike Perry, WA4MP wrote on 2/7/2022 5:21 PM:
Hello--On Feb 7, 2022, at 1:18 pm, Nick Norman <m0hgu@...> wrote:Windows and the Unix-based macOS lie at opposing extremes. The problem with Apple's computer products is, as you pointed out, the hardware-enforced obsolescence inflicted by the hardware. Plus, their products are too damned expensive and the hardware is not user-serviceable. OTOH, you can buy a tested used and usable PC with reasonable performance from a reseller for a few tens of dollars. Add a hard drive (better yet, a SSD) and an operating system (Linux) and you have a capable computer. The hardware is inexpensive enough to assemble a fleet of computers and dedicate each one to a different OS. If a machine eventually fails, recycle it and buy another used replacement PC. 73-- Brad AA1IP |
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F1LPT
J'ai retrouvé l'original norvégien
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHX-SjgQvQ je ne comprend les sous titres mais simplement la gestuelle des acteurs suffit à comprendre l'histoire . 73 / 44 Patrick F1LPT |
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Nick Norman
On 08/02/2022 09:59, F1LPT wrote:
J'ai retrouvé l'original norvégienMerci :-) Nick M0HGU -- "Art thou a witch, *viva espana*?" - The Spanish Inquisition (Tadfield version) in action (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) Tue 10388 Sep 10:05:01 GMT 1993 10:05:01 up 2 days, 19:22, 6 users, load average: 1.32, 1.61, 1.77 -- 73 Nick M0HGU |
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William Smith
Exactly! I love my Macs, but they are crazy expensive, and keep changing stuff. I’m getting old enough hat Change Is Bad. 8*)
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My goto computer lately is the Raspberry Pi, $45(*), runs Linux, desktop or headless, dual monitor, etc. (*) If you can get them, supply chain issues everywhere. And of course, SD card, power supply, case, peripherals that you need with any computer, etc. 73, Willie N1JBJ
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I understand your feelings. It’s no accident that I’m using a 10-year-old Mac mini that’s two version back in the OS Apple allows to run on it. Macs and iPhones cost more, but use them long enough and the cost factor versus Windows/Android shifts in favor of Macs. The total cost of my Mac mini is now around $150 a year or about 50 cents a day. And I’m not leaning toward not replacing my iPhone 6s for at least another year. Why replace something that does all I want it to do?
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Raspberries offer me no temptation. Yes, I could do a lot with one, but the tinkering demands are enormous. It is nice that so much can be tweaked. It is terrible that so much has to be tweaked and tuned. For me, a computer is like a hammer. It’s a tool that should just do its job and not make demands. Also, in my other life as a writer and editor I need to run software that will never migrate to Linux. Now it is InDesign, but as soon at the Affinity suite of apps includes more book-scale features, I’m migrating to them. Even more than Apple, Adobe products are overpriced. For what I pay in three months to rent one app from Adobe, Indesign, I can buy all three Affinity apps. No hefty monthly subscriptions for an page layout app that’s gotten no significant improvements in three years. https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ —Mike Perry, WA4MP On Feb 8, 2022, at 7:53 am, William Smith <w_smith@...> wrote: |
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Hi, Willie I've purchased both pico's and a RP400 recently from Adafruit, at the RPi prices, unlike Amazon. I like dealing with Adafruit because she has bigger balls than I have - starting an electronic hobbyist business on Manhattan Island. Go Girl!! 73 Jim Daldry W4JED On 2/8/22 08:53, William Smith wrote:
Exactly! I love my Macs, but they are crazy expensive, and keep changing stuff. I’m getting old enough hat Change Is Bad. 8*) |
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geoff M0ORE
I'm not keen on Windows especially when my wife leaves them open and the central heating is on!!
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William Smith
Easy enough to fix, just power cycle the house. 8*)
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Roy Appleton
Recently I bought a used Microsoft Surface Pro 4 with Windows version 10. I had no problems whatsoever. The only thing I had to do was go into device manager and see which comport it had been assigned to and I was up and running. Obviously different versions of Windows can cause issues.
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Alan G4ZFQ
Obviously different versions of Windows can cause issues.Roy, I guess most people know Windows by now. Periodically new versions appear, we are expected to abandon older ones. Windows 7 is end of life, although I think paid support is still available. End of life Windows are not updated so using a new device is likely to give problems. Actually Windows 10 is not too bad with some legacy devices but nothing guaranteed. 73 Alan G4ZFQ |
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Roy Appleton
Alan, you just never know, I've got an old tower computer that started out with Windows XP and I upgraded it a year or so ago to Windows 7 and use it with a audio interface kit made by one of your fellow countrymen and had no problems as I can remember getting it up and running. Though the gentleman that provides the kit did an excellent job of providing instructions on how to correctly configure it with use for WSJT-X and Windows. Roy WA0YMH On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 10:53 AM Alan G4ZFQ <alan4alan@...> wrote: >Obviously different versions of Windows can cause issues. |
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ajparent1/kb1gmx
I started with a DOS box (8088 powered) went through win3.11 and Nt3, W95,
NT4 and then did the I've had enough of this. Went linux Ubuntu and never looked back. I do keep XP in a virtual box on the Linux machines for some cases where wine (windows emulation) doesn't work well enough. FYI Linux falls between winders and Mac for device compatibility. Older or well established devices usually work well. New and poorly supported devices (especially those that are winders only) are hit and miss until people hack at them enough to make up for lack of documentation. Its a standards thing, if they adhere to standards it generally works. I stay with Linux as I do not have to retrain myself when I go from Mac, Rpi, and Intel/AMD. Allison ------------------------------ Please reply on list so we can share. No private email, it goes to a bit bucket due to address harvesting |
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I would like to add that older printer that do not have Window$ support or drier or are mostly all can be used on Linux OS =) I like Linux Mint Mate 32 bit / 64 bit OS ( it is an Ubuntu type but more like Desbian ( and you can get Mint Desbian Linux OS there as well ) .... seems to feel more like Window$ XP ..... just the programs / APPs have different name and any MS special fonts will have an alternative font equivalent =) On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:42 AM ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...> wrote: I started with a DOS box (8088 powered) went through win3.11 and Nt3, W95, --
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Bill Cromwell
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I stopped with NT4 as well. I bought a desktop and a server system in a "Back Office" set. I installed everything and thought my wife I would soon have a great network. However, after spending all that money and installing the systems with a pile of CDs Bill Gates demanded even more money before it would do more than serve as a pair of desktop computers! I used the NT4 OS's until they aged out. I had already started with Linux (on floppies). Linux became my mainstay. I do have XP (a gifted, licensed copy) and it's service packs that I sometimes run in a virtual machine under Linux. Microsoft is one of only two companies that lied about what they were selling me and both of them are permanently banned from my home and my life. Back to "on topic". My QCX+ and 50 watt amp are slowly growing. Too many other things to do here. 73, Bill KU8H bark less - wag more On 2/8/22 12:42 PM, ajparent1/KB1GMX wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 06:41 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
Microsoft is one of only two companies that lied about what they were selling me and both of them are permanently banned from my home and my life.I have two companies banned for life here. Microsoft, a poor OS for many reason, and then came the FTDI driver scandal. Legalised corporate vandalism of users equipment. Sony. Anyone remember the audio CD root kit saga ? And then there was the SW100 receivers. I had two of them, the original with the flexi cable fault, and the one that was supposed to have cured it (but it didn't). And then there were two audio systems that I had from them that were a total disaster. Local dealers refused to service any of them. |
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Kevin Luxford
What I hate about TGUOS (the great unfinished operating system) is the frequent "updates" which add bloatware and which clobber all my settings. And as for bloody Edge! It needs a sharp edge as in Stanley knife to cut the damned thing out. And the new version of Word has a dreadful look and feel. I am trying to convince She Who Would Very Much Like To Be Obeyed to use Libre Office instead. Yep, Ubuntu is my main operating system. With Libre Office, Geany, Firefox plus ad blockers, I can do pretty well all that I need to do. End rant. 73 all. Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, at 04:42, ajparent1/KB1GMX wrote:
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Kevin Luxford
One more pet peeve, has anyone else noticed that once upon a time one could enter a URL into firefox, and the wanted site would open Now, bloody Google inserts its unwanted self into the URL opening procedure. End of second rant. Sorry, but it feels ever so much better. Cheers Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, at 04:42, ajparent1/KB1GMX wrote:
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