Remote antenna switching #antenna


Ted 2E0THH
 

A recent QCX mini purchase means I will soon need a 20m dipole to accompany my 40m when operating from my home shack.
Just wondered if any of you had built a remote QRP antenna switch? I have seen quite a few articles now using just bog standard relays.
I also need to build a similar switch for the increasing number of radios in the shack too.

73s from a cold and frosty Suffolk UK
Ted 
2E0THH

 


Alan G4ZFQ
 

Just wondered if any of you had built a remote QRP antenna switch?
Ted,

Ordinary relays are fine for HF, just keep connections short.
Don't forget the diode across the coil:-)

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Ted 2E0THH
 

Thanks Alan
Just found these on ebay for £3, I think at that price it is worth a go.
They are not latching so one configuration will need to be constantly powered. I also need to make sure that the control wiring (which will be in the same 32mm conduit as my coax feed) does not introduce RF into the shack.
They also do multiples, hopefully all with diodes as standard :)
73s Ted


Steve in Okinawa
 

I've used quite a few of these modules for antenna switching up to 50 MHz. They save a lot of room and control wiring, and will handle quite a bit of power too. Each relay has an LED on the board to show when it's activated.  High marks.  JS6TMW


Curt wb8yyy
 

Ted

If you have a 40m dipole installed, just add the 20m dipole wires to the same coax. This is called a fan dipole. The wires can be tied closely together with insulators, or merely tied off to different places at the end. No relay or added coax necessary.

Another nice multiband antenna is end fed halfwave efhw. Instructions to build qrp versions on the web, need 1 toroid and 1 fixed capacitor. These radiate on even harmonics also, unlike center fed,

Enjoy your radiations.

Curt wb8yyy


Ted 2E0THH
 

Steve - thanks, these do look great for all sorts of apps and super cheap, I have ordered one to have a play.

Curt - thanks also. That one is new to me so I had better read it up. High wire antennae are no go here so the current 40m dipole lies atop a 1m high beech hedge oriented N/S. Works surprisingly well and has also WSPRed as far as Tasmania and the South Pole.

73s Ted


geoff M0ORE
 

You can do the same with trap dipoles for different bands on each section of fan. Adding traps to a dipole will reduce the bandwidth of the aerial, if you have, say, a trap dipole for 6 bands, then the lowest frequency band will have a very sharp cutoff frequency. By using a limited number of traps in each dipole, say two or three, and then combining into a fan arrangement, you get a much wider bandwidth at the lowest frequency. Try to arrange the traps in alternate bands.i.e. 40m, 17m and 12m in one leg of the fan and 20m, 15 and 10m in the other leg. Extend the wires on the 20/15/10 section to cover 80m. No trap is needed for 80m. If possible, have one section of the fan ends going up in height and the other section going down so it looks like a bow tie. It is often stated that a 40m dipole will match on 15m. This is true for dedicated dipoles but not if traps are involved.

On 08/12/2020 13:58, wb8yyy via groups.io wrote:

Ted

If you have a 40m dipole installed, just add the 20m dipole wires to the same coax. This is called a fan dipole. The wires can be tied closely together with insulators, or merely tied off to different places at the end. No relay or added coax necessary.

Another nice multiband antenna is end fed halfwave efhw. Instructions to build qrp versions on the web, need 1 toroid and 1 fixed capacitor. These radiate on even harmonics also, unlike center fed,

Enjoy your radiations.

Curt wb8yyy


Ed Kwik
 

A good tuner will let you use the 40 meter dipole on 20 meters. The 40 meter dipole may even give you some gain on 20
Ed
AB8DF


Ted 2E0THH
 

I've got a homebuilt Z-match employed already (although not really necessary as the 40m is cut/tuned pretty well) - maybe I'll try that first.
So on a fan dipole with only 40 and 20 elements, would there be any reflection from the 40m antenna when working 20m? 
These antennae will lie side by side on top of a hedge!  
73s Ted


Steve in Okinawa
 

I'm sure you'll find a use for them HIHI


Dave N3AC
 

nothing significant


On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 11:07 Ted 2E0THH <qrp@...> wrote:

I've got a homebuilt Z-match employed already (although not really necessary as the 40m is cut/tuned pretty well) - maybe I'll try that first.
So on a fan dipole with only 40 and 20 elements, would there be any reflection from the 40m antenna when working 20m? 
These antennae will lie side by side on top of a hedge!  
73s Ted


Ted 2E0THH
 

Steve - that looks like a really fun box of tricks, I love stuff like this!

Dave, many thanks - I need to do some homework so I properly understand how these antennae work together. Everyday with this hobby, you learn something new.

73s Ted