Question about using firmware 3.12a with the Ultimate 3 (PCB 4)


Phil N6WKZ
 

All,

I have a Ultimate 3 currently running firmware 3.09f. I'm using the Si5351A Synthesiser module.

Can I up grade to the latest firmware 3.12a ?

73 Phil N6WKZ


Hans Summers
 

Hi Phil

No. V3.09f was the last firmware version that supported both the AD9850 DDS and the Si5351A synthesizer chip. After that, AD9850 DDS code was removed from the firmware to make space for other enhancements. So for a while the same firmware was compatible with U3 and U3S but in the end the U3S firmware dropped U3 compatibility. That end, was v3.09f. 

If you want to use v3.12a you have to upgrade your hardware too, by replacing the AD9850 DDS with the Si5351A Synth board http://qrp-labs.com/synth 

That is straightforward plug-in replacement. However your output power will be cut in half. If that bothers you then you need to make a few other changes as documented here: http://qrp-labs.com/ultimate3/u3mods/u3tou3s.html

So in summary - to use v3.12a you will need to install a Si5351A Synth http://qrp-labs.com/synth and make a few other wiring changes to make your U3 equivalent to U3S. 

73 Hans G0UPL
http://qrp-labs.com


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 02:43 Phil N6WKZ <n6wkz@...> wrote:
All,

I have a Ultimate 3 currently running firmware 3.09f. I'm using the
Si5351A Synthesiser module.

Can I up grade to the latest firmware 3.12a ?

73 Phil N6WKZ







Phil N6WKZ
 

Hans,

I am using the  Si5351A and I believe  that I cut off  one pin.

Would that be my problem?

Phil

PS  The 3S software (3.12a) seems to be a lot faster, that is why I wanted to up grade.

Why does the the QCX output so much more power in the wspr mode?

Great projects, great support. Thank you!

73 Phil N6WKZ

On 11/8/2020 10:21 PM, Hans Summers wrote:

Hi Phil

No. V3.09f was the last firmware version that supported both the AD9850 DDS and the Si5351A synthesizer chip. After that, AD9850 DDS code was removed from the firmware to make space for other enhancements. So for a while the same firmware was compatible with U3 and U3S but in the end the U3S firmware dropped U3 compatibility. That end, was v3.09f. 

If you want to use v3.12a you have to upgrade your hardware too, by replacing the AD9850 DDS with the Si5351A Synth board http://qrp-labs.com/synth 

That is straightforward plug-in replacement. However your output power will be cut in half. If that bothers you then you need to make a few other changes as documented here: http://qrp-labs.com/ultimate3/u3mods/u3tou3s.html

So in summary - to use v3.12a you will need to install a Si5351A Synth http://qrp-labs.com/synth and make a few other wiring changes to make your U3 equivalent to U3S. 

73 Hans G0UPL
http://qrp-labs.com

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 02:43 Phil N6WKZ <n6wkz@...> wrote:
All,

I have a Ultimate 3 currently running firmware 3.09f. I'm using the
Si5351A Synthesiser module.

Can I up grade to the latest firmware 3.12a ?

73 Phil N6WKZ







Hans Summers
 

Hi Phil 

I am using the  Si5351A and I believe  that I cut off  one pin.

Would that be my problem?

If you cut off the recommended pin for the situation where using the Si5351A Synth in an old U3 Board, then it would be no problem. 
If you cut off a different pin then it could be your problem, depending on which pin you cut off. 

Actually that's hard to answer in any event because this is the first time you have mentioned having any problem - in your original post I was under the impression you have a U3... 

I suppose I missed the fact that you said already you have a Si5351A... sorry about that - I blame junior lab tech inflicted sleep deprivation here 

Why does the the QCX output so much more power in the wspr mode?

QCX has a 5W Class-E PA running at 12V. 

The U3S is a single transistor in class C at 5V... 

73 Hans G0UPL
http://qrp-labs.com