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Re: TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Alan G4ZFQ
 

I use these:. https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/160/T5HN_T5HV-1662393.pdf
Mike,

Again, not really suitable for higher frequencies? These are FOX devices, do they adjust in digital jumps?

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Re: TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Alan G4ZFQ
 

Arv,
Notice that they will not ship to the United States.  This is a red-flag
that possibly indicates sub-standard components
I could say the same about when I go to an overseas supplier using a link from a US citizen. Sometimes "do not ship to Europe". Probably just policy.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

dbauer@...
 

Thanks for the explanation and your efforts on our behalf to minimize these extra costs. As always, Hans you go above and beyond. Much appreciated.
Loving the QCX+ kit build. Thanks again for the awesome line of kits for us to burn our own noses on! Hi Hi
Dave


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

Dave VE3LHO
 

The limit was $20 for both GST/HST and duties, I believe, but I also understand that the limit was negotiated up as part of the "new NAFTA". Unfortuantely, the limit is now $40 for HST/GST and $150 for duties. This came into effect July 1st (Happy Canada Day!) "unfortunately" because even though you won't pay any duty until the value hits $150 the fact that tax must be collected at $40 will trigger the service fee for the courier. Like most (many? some? :-) people here I don't mind paying the tax but I'm not thrilled by the courier tacking on a charge.

Apparently this is only the case for couriers not Canada Post although its my experience that Canada Post already allows most packages in without tax/duty even over $20.
See https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/new-nafta-raises-duty-free-limits-for-private-couriers-not-canada-post-1.1456470

In my experience FedEx is neither better nor worse than the other guys. I've generally been charged a $10 fee by them and I think most of the others charge the same. They may have a fee that increases (at loan shark rates) as the amount of money you owe goes up (i.e. maybe the fee is $20 over some amount for tax+duty).

I think the only ways around this are 1) only ship goods with a (declared) value less than $40 or 2) have an account with the courier and use your account for the shipping (and settling of taxes/duties). #2 is a pain for Hans and probably won't get the good "corporate" shipping rates he negotiated.
(trying to get the couriers to let you, the recipient, clear the goods through customs is a non-starter here. I've had packages enter the country at Toronto -- 400Km away from me --- and packages from China often land in Vancouver 3.5K km away. Going to the customs desk at the airport is out :-)


On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:38 AM, Hans Summers wrote:
Hi Dave
 
I don't think FedEx have any scam going on.
 
I recently became aware of this situation via an email from Vernon, which I think applies specifically to Canada. Most countries have a threshold amount below which import customs don't bother to collect duty or sales tax (a.k.a. VAT). It apparently is the case that the threshold is lower for Canada than for other countries. 
 
Denmark is another instance of a country having lower than normal threshold. 
 
I do my best to label packages such that nobody ever has to pay any duty, sales tax or administrative fees. Sometimes I need to make adjustments in cases where countries have a low threshold like Canada and Denmark. I also got caught out once soon after the Brexit vote, when the exchange rate of US$ to £ Sterling fell sharply and the UK threshold (expressed in US$) was effectively exceeded. 
 
Don't worry about it too much... QRP Labs kits shipments rarely attract import charges or fees. I adjusted Canadian and Denmark thresholds so they shouldn't be a problem either going forward. 
 
73 Hans G0UPL 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 19:18 <dbauer@...> wrote:
Same experience here on three occasions about a month after delivery from QRPlabs. Nice scam, Fedex.
Dave VE7AHT


Re: QCX+ Coax and BNC Connector Choice #qcx

Shane Justice <justshane@...>
 

Hi Gwen,

I actually do know the difference, but I was just having a bit of fun, along with everyone else...

On the ruggedness side, I agree with you- PL259/SO-239 connectors are more rugged than BNCs in portable situations where connections are made and disconnected frequntly and the frequencies are below UHF. 

At higher frequencies, or if one needs a smaller connector, I like TNCs for a more rugged connection than SMA, although I don't know about whether TNCs have the same issues with dimensional control of the center contact that you have observed with BNCs.

I did have one PL259 that was my HF antenna connection at the back of the radio fail after approximately 30 years of service, but that might have been my fault in assembling the connector on the cable- the failure mechanism was the braid failed and the solder connection of the center conductor sheared off- the cable separated from the rear of the PL-259. So it is probably not really a failure of the connector, after all...

I know I was surprised when the cable fell out of the back of the connector as I was screwing in onto the back of another radio. I had moved this connector many times between several HF receivers and transceivers, so this connector actually had a pretty hard life.

My absolute worst connector is the F connector- hard to mate/unmate, a bugger to get right on the coax, hate that the center conductor is the contact, and probably loads more reasons that aren't coming to mind at the moment...

73,
Shane



On Aug 25, 2020 at 10:25, Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:

*Shrug* SO-239s are used on commercially-produced radios. So we pretty much have to use PL-259 connectors on them. You can put an adapter on the radio to make it an N connector, or whatever you like better, but frankly, I'd rather have an SO-239 than a freaking loose and inconsistent BNC connector! I've had BNC cables RUIN sockets on radios because the pin's too big. Or sockets on radios not make good contact because the pin on the cable connector's *in spec* and is too small. I'll take a PL-259 over a BNC any day. I even put an SO-239 on my Small Wonder Labs DSW-20 back when I built it years ago.

But all that aside, can we NOT carp on someone because they accidentally hit a 4 instead of a 5, and just move on? Like none of you have hit the wrong key and hit send without seeing it!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:53 PM Shane Justice <justshane@...> wrote:
Splits the difference between a SO-239 and a PL-259???


On Aug 24, 2020 at 10:16, geoff M0ORE via groups.io <m0ore@...> wrote:

What is a PL-249???



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Syd via groups.io" <nhuq1=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 22/08/2020 05:03 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] QCX+ Coax and BNC Connector Choice #qcx

I'm kind of lazy when I have to make cables.  I only make cables with  PL-259 since I've been doing it forever. But I needed some BNC to  BNC with RG8x cables, some BNC to PL-259s, and quite a few of N connectors to Ns, BNCs, & PL-259s.  CablesOnLIne made them and shipped them pronto and the cost was not that bad. BTW I know how to solder PL-249s, but had no experience with BNCs and N connectors. And I never liked crimping.


Re: QCX+ Coax and BNC Connector Choice #qcx

Graham, VE3GTC
 

I suffer from tinger frouble all the time due to my BFFs  (Big Fat Fingers).

so-239 / pl-259 have their place and their proponents.

I however prefer N type and use them almost exclusively to the point that I have been known to replace the so-239 on some radios with them. I have what is likely one of only a few FT-817's in the world that has a type N connector rather than a so-239.

I also use a lot of F type ( i.e. cable / satellite TV connectors ) connectors and RG6 type cables on receive only antennas and connections.

To each their own.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 5:25 PM Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...> wrote:
*Shrug* SO-239s are used on commercially-produced radios. So we pretty much have to use PL-259 connectors on them. You can put an adapter on the radio to make it an N connector, or whatever you like better, but frankly, I'd rather have an SO-239 than a freaking loose and inconsistent BNC connector! I've had BNC cables RUIN sockets on radios because the pin's too big. Or sockets on radios not make good contact because the pin on the cable connector's *in spec* and is too small. I'll take a PL-259 over a BNC any day. I even put an SO-239 on my Small Wonder Labs DSW-20 back when I built it years ago.

But all that aside, can we NOT carp on someone because they accidentally hit a 4 instead of a 5, and just move on? Like none of you have hit the wrong key and hit send without seeing it!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:53 PM Shane Justice <justshane@...> wrote:
Splits the difference between a SO-239 and a PL-259???


On Aug 24, 2020 at 10:16, geoff M0ORE via groups.io <m0ore@...> wrote:

What is a PL-249???



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Syd via groups.io" <nhuq1=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 22/08/2020 05:03 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] QCX+ Coax and BNC Connector Choice #qcx

I'm kind of lazy when I have to make cables.  I only make cables with  PL-259 since I've been doing it forever. But I needed some BNC to  BNC with RG8x cables, some BNC to PL-259s, and quite a few of N connectors to Ns, BNCs, & PL-259s.  CablesOnLIne made them and shipped them pronto and the cost was not that bad. BTW I know how to solder PL-249s, but had no experience with BNCs and N connectors. And I never liked crimping.


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

Hans Summers
 

Hi Dave

I don't think FedEx have any scam going on.

I recently became aware of this situation via an email from Vernon, which I think applies specifically to Canada. Most countries have a threshold amount below which import customs don't bother to collect duty or sales tax (a.k.a. VAT). It apparently is the case that the threshold is lower for Canada than for other countries. 

Denmark is another instance of a country having lower than normal threshold. 

I do my best to label packages such that nobody ever has to pay any duty, sales tax or administrative fees. Sometimes I need to make adjustments in cases where countries have a low threshold like Canada and Denmark. I also got caught out once soon after the Brexit vote, when the exchange rate of US$ to £ Sterling fell sharply and the UK threshold (expressed in US$) was effectively exceeded. 

Don't worry about it too much... QRP Labs kits shipments rarely attract import charges or fees. I adjusted Canadian and Denmark thresholds so they shouldn't be a problem either going forward. 

73 Hans G0UPL 


On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 19:18 <dbauer@...> wrote:
Same experience here on three occasions about a month after delivery from QRPlabs. Nice scam, Fedex.
Dave VE7AHT


Re: QCX+ Coax and BNC Connector Choice #qcx

Gwen Patton
 

*Shrug* SO-239s are used on commercially-produced radios. So we pretty much have to use PL-259 connectors on them. You can put an adapter on the radio to make it an N connector, or whatever you like better, but frankly, I'd rather have an SO-239 than a freaking loose and inconsistent BNC connector! I've had BNC cables RUIN sockets on radios because the pin's too big. Or sockets on radios not make good contact because the pin on the cable connector's *in spec* and is too small. I'll take a PL-259 over a BNC any day. I even put an SO-239 on my Small Wonder Labs DSW-20 back when I built it years ago.

But all that aside, can we NOT carp on someone because they accidentally hit a 4 instead of a 5, and just move on? Like none of you have hit the wrong key and hit send without seeing it!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:53 PM Shane Justice <justshane@...> wrote:
Splits the difference between a SO-239 and a PL-259???


On Aug 24, 2020 at 10:16, geoff M0ORE via groups.io <m0ore@...> wrote:

What is a PL-249???



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Syd via groups.io" <nhuq1=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Date: 22/08/2020 05:03 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] QCX+ Coax and BNC Connector Choice #qcx

I'm kind of lazy when I have to make cables.  I only make cables with  PL-259 since I've been doing it forever. But I needed some BNC to  BNC with RG8x cables, some BNC to PL-259s, and quite a few of N connectors to Ns, BNCs, & PL-259s.  CablesOnLIne made them and shipped them pronto and the cost was not that bad. BTW I know how to solder PL-249s, but had no experience with BNCs and N connectors. And I never liked crimping.


Re: TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Arv Evans <arvid.evans@...>
 

Notice that they will not ship to the United States.  This is a red-flag 
that possibly indicates sub-standard components or sub-standard 
products.
_._


On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:57 AM Cathal Ferris <groups.io@...> wrote:
I haven't seen recommendations on here about SMD TXCOs that would work well with the Si5351a oscillator board as used in a few of Hans' kits, so I thought I'd give my experience to the group.

After trawling a number of online portals and .pdfs, and after chasing down on eBay, I found this particular item.
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/ABRACON-ASV-27-000MHZ-EJ-T-OSC-27M-15PF-CL-7X5-08MM-SMT/173194440854
"ABRACON ASV-27.000MHZ-EJ-T OSC, 27M, 15PF CL, 7X5.08MM SMT"

It fits well on the oscillator board, SMT but not *that* difficult to work with, I bought two of the TXCOs and both have worked correctly on a pair of U3S kits I completed. I think the frequency it finally converged on was in the tens of Hz above nominal.

I have zero affiliation with the seller. I just happened to have good results with what they sold to me, and I figured I'd pass that onwards to anyone that wanted to get TXCO control without building one up.

73 de EI4IWB
-Cathal


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

dbauer@...
 

Same experience here on three occasions about a month after delivery from QRPlabs. Nice scam, Fedex.
Dave VE7AHT


Re: TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Phil N6WKZ
 

On 8/25/2020 7:57 AM, Cathal Ferris wrote:
I haven't seen recommendations on here about SMD TXCOs that would work well with the Si5351a oscillator board as used in a few of Hans' kits, so I thought I'd give my experience to the group.

After trawling a number of online portals and .pdfs, and after chasing down on eBay, I found this particular item.
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/ABRACON-ASV-27-000MHZ-EJ-T-OSC-27M-15PF-CL-7X5-08MM-SMT/173194440854
"ABRACON ASV-27.000MHZ-EJ-T OSC, 27M, 15PF CL, 7X5.08MM SMT"

It fits well on the oscillator board, SMT but not *that* difficult to work with, I bought two of the TXCOs and both have worked correctly on a pair of U3S kits I completed. I think the frequency it finally converged on was in the tens of Hz above nominal.

I have zero affiliation with the seller. I just happened to have good results with what they sold to me, and I figured I'd pass that onwards to anyone that wanted to get TXCO control without building one up.

73 de EI4IWB
-Cathal

This oscillator (on Digikey) is listed as XO (standard) at 20ppm. It should be a TXCO, correct me if I'm wrong.

I've use the one recommended by Hans, made by Fox. It's a little small and a pain to solder, but I've done it. Plus it's a 2.5 ppm, TXCO.

73

Phil N6WKZ


Re: TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Mike Besemer - WM4B <mwbesemer@...>
 

On Aug 25, 2020 11:52 AM, Alan G4ZFQ <alan4alan@...> wrote:


https://www.ebay.ie/itm/ABRACON-ASV-27-000MHZ-EJ-T-OSC-27M-15PF-CL-7X5-08MM-SMT/173194440854
"ABRACON ASV-27.000MHZ-EJ-T OSC, 27M, 15PF CL, 7X5.08MM SMT"
Cathal

At 20ppm it's not really a TCXO. But might be better than some crystals.
TCXOs start around 1ppm.

73 Alan G4ZFQ



Re: TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Alan G4ZFQ
 

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/ABRACON-ASV-27-000MHZ-EJ-T-OSC-27M-15PF-CL-7X5-08MM-SMT/173194440854
"ABRACON ASV-27.000MHZ-EJ-T OSC, 27M, 15PF CL, 7X5.08MM SMT"
Cathal

At 20ppm it's not really a TCXO. But might be better than some crystals.
TCXOs start around 1ppm.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


TXCO suitable for the U3S and the GPS clock.

Cathal Ferris
 

I haven't seen recommendations on here about SMD TXCOs that would work well with the Si5351a oscillator board as used in a few of Hans' kits, so I thought I'd give my experience to the group.

After trawling a number of online portals and .pdfs, and after chasing down on eBay, I found this particular item.
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/ABRACON-ASV-27-000MHZ-EJ-T-OSC-27M-15PF-CL-7X5-08MM-SMT/173194440854
"ABRACON ASV-27.000MHZ-EJ-T OSC, 27M, 15PF CL, 7X5.08MM SMT"

It fits well on the oscillator board, SMT but not *that* difficult to work with, I bought two of the TXCOs and both have worked correctly on a pair of U3S kits I completed. I think the frequency it finally converged on was in the tens of Hz above nominal.

I have zero affiliation with the seller. I just happened to have good results with what they sold to me, and I figured I'd pass that onwards to anyone that wanted to get TXCO control without building one up.

73 de EI4IWB
-Cathal


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

Rachael Sanders
 

It is common here in the UK too. The courier company or our post office collect the vat and duty on behalf of HMRC (Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs). They also add a ‘Collection and Handling Fee’......often as much as the VAT to pay. However, in my experience they collect it BEFORE they will deliver the parcel i.e. no payment.....no parcel!
Often annoying but I suppose if it’s due then we have to pay. After all if we had bought the item locally in the UK we would have paid VAT anyway.
It is always a pleasure when a parcel passes through customs without charge especially if it was expensive!
73 de
Rachael M1AYG 

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 15:24, VE3KCL <airdry@...> wrote:
This is a common problem in Canada , I believe you can avoid the extortion by having a Fedex account with a balance in it and instructing Fedex to debit your account so you don't get gouged for the extra $20 they charge for lending you the tax money for a few days. They often make mistakes in their favour ...TNT once charged me the $20 extra on a $2.99 special for pcb boards from PCBWAY... but had to back down as the hst amount is below the taxable limit.
Dave VE3KCL








Re: DDP Express Shipping?

Vernon Matheson
 

If it's listed at more than $20 CDN it has to go through detailed customes. If under it whistles right through.

So my QCX+ came in at $18 USD value which is more than $20 CDN so I ended up getting a bill for almost $15 CDN from FEDEX for the costs/taxes associated with the detailed customs inspection.

This is the first time ever but I have only ever used the TNT/FEDEX...everything else has been via postal services.

Vernon

On 2020-08-25 14:14, Graham, VE3GTC wrote:

I have had this happen too and not only with FedEx.

Be careful what you are calling this extra charge.  It is probably not "duty" but rather our HST / GST ( ie sales tax ) and quite likely a small handling or service fee for FedEx.

I have found FedEx to be quite reasonable and UPS in my experience has been the worst (most costly)

In order for these taxes to be collected by the seller ( i.e. QRP Labs ), the seller would need to be set up with ( when selling to anyone in Canada ) the Canada Revenue Agency as a business authorized to collect these taxes on their behalf and transfer said collected taxes to the Agency.  All in all, not so simple or easy thing to do for a small business.

I don't think the courier companies are able to do this through the seller but they might be able to; my quick search on the subject was inconclusive.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc




On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:05 PM craftxbox via groups.io <spam=craftxbox.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello, Yesterday I received a bill from Fedex, One month after my package was delivered requiring me to pay for my package from QRP Labs. I was incredibly infurated by this, but realize that this isn't my, or Hans' fault, just Fedex's scummy business practices. Now I'd like to ask, Is it possible for there to be a DDP (Delivery Duty Paid)  Express shipping option added to the store? Atleast for Canada, no such option is available, And it would be very appreciable if it was possible. Thanks.


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

VE3KCL
 

This is a common problem in Canada , I believe you can avoid the extortion by having a Fedex account with a balance in it and instructing Fedex to debit your account so you don't get gouged for the extra $20 they charge for lending you the tax money for a few days. They often make mistakes in their favour ...TNT once charged me the $20 extra on a $2.99 special for pcb boards from PCBWAY... but had to back down as the hst amount is below the taxable limit.
Dave VE3KCL


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

 

I am unsure, they sent the bill in french, which I cannot read. Even if it's service charge, Didn't I already pay for that when ordering?


Re: DDP Express Shipping?

Graham, VE3GTC
 

I have had this happen too and not only with FedEx.

Be careful what you are calling this extra charge.  It is probably not "duty" but rather our HST / GST ( ie sales tax ) and quite likely a small handling or service fee for FedEx.

I have found FedEx to be quite reasonable and UPS in my experience has been the worst (most costly)

In order for these taxes to be collected by the seller ( i.e. QRP Labs ), the seller would need to be set up with ( when selling to anyone in Canada ) the Canada Revenue Agency as a business authorized to collect these taxes on their behalf and transfer said collected taxes to the Agency.  All in all, not so simple or easy thing to do for a small business.

I don't think the courier companies are able to do this through the seller but they might be able to; my quick search on the subject was inconclusive.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc




On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:05 PM craftxbox via groups.io <spam=craftxbox.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello, Yesterday I received a bill from Fedex, One month after my package was delivered requiring me to pay for my package from QRP Labs. I was incredibly infurated by this, but realize that this isn't my, or Hans' fault, just Fedex's scummy business practices. Now I'd like to ask, Is it possible for there to be a DDP (Delivery Duty Paid)  Express shipping option added to the store? Atleast for Canada, no such option is available, And it would be very appreciable if it was possible. Thanks.


DDP Express Shipping?

 

Hello, Yesterday I received a bill from Fedex, One month after my package was delivered requiring me to pay for my package from QRP Labs. I was incredibly infurated by this, but realize that this isn't my, or Hans' fault, just Fedex's scummy business practices. Now I'd like to ask, Is it possible for there to be a DDP (Delivery Duty Paid)  Express shipping option added to the store? Atleast for Canada, no such option is available, And it would be very appreciable if it was possible. Thanks.