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Re: Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

Roger Hill
 

Hi Phil

Yes, I have U3S and the QRPLABS GPS works fine.


In the GPS parameter setting, try setting mode 2. (Sorry I cannot be more specific, my U3S is not with me at the moment). Check the manual. My guess is you have it set to 0 or maybe 1.

Roger

G3YTN


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On 2020-08-08 10:25, Phil Crockford wrote:

All (4) of the GPS's I have were provided by QRPLabs and they all do the same thing. I didn't think it was unreasonable to assume that they are compatible with the product they are provided for but, if I have to determine the O/p strings that are enabled then I will. The GPS module provided on the board is the YIC51612E.

 I wonder if anyone else has attempted to use the GPS position on CW or even if the 2D/3D display on the U3s is displayed correctly on their U3s. It would be interesting to know if it normally works or, if I am looking for a problem with my setup.

 

Question:            Can someone confirm that the GPS 2D/3D is displayed correctly on their U3S?

Question:            Can anyone tell me what GPS string the U3s uses to determine the 2D/3D fix parameter?

 

I have the documentation for the YIC51612E. The NMEA string $GNGSA  mode2 perimeter has data indicating the 2D/3D status. Is this the string that the U3s uses to determine the data for that parameter or is there another I have missed?

 

Many thanks for your input.

 

Phil G8IOA

 

From: QRPLabs@groups.io [mailto:QRPLabs@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Justice
Sent: 08 August 2020 00:00
To: QRPLabs
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

 

Phil

 

You might check which sentence strengs the GPs is outputting. There are several sentences output by NMEA standard GPS units. Some of the data is common in some strings, but not in others. Check the manufacturer's documentation regarding how to set the output to a string or several strings that provide the required data.

 

73,

Shane

KE7TR

 

 

On Aug 7, 2020 at 11:23, Phil Crockford <pcc@...> wrote:

I have a working Ulimate3S and am using it on wspr and CW.
I am using the massage entry in the system to determine the CW content.
I have a number of working GPS's that appears to work correctly and displays the current data on LCD display.
The only difference to the data display and the U3s documentation, regarding the GPS, is that the "3D,2D or none" that should be in the display of the GPS data is permanently "--". (and always has been form the time I purchased the GPS's). The GPS is one supplied by QRPLabs and I have 3 such GPS's and they all provide the same "--" . 
The U3s calculates the Maidenhead correctly, which would indicate that the GPS unit and the U3s software is working ok.
I have entered the Tags in to the message entry window "#CS #M6"
The Morse comes out fine if I use Callsign and Maidenhead locator as above.
I now wish to add the Lat and Long to the Message and the system allows me to enter the Tags for it. "#CS #M6 #LT #LN" in the message.
When the U3s attempts to send the message it sends the Callsign and the Maidenhead locator ok but, appears to reject the Lat and Long data, and from what I can see it just displays a "--" momentarily on the LCD and the display then goes blank for a couple of seconds and then returns to the normal LCD.
I have tried putting the Lat and Long first "#LT #LN #CS #M6" but it then refuses to send any of the message.
I hope I have provided enough info to solicit some help
If it is because the NMEA string that provides the 2D,3D information if missing and that the U3s requires that data before it will send the Lat, Long.data, what do I need to correct the problem.

Phil G8IOA

 


Re: Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

Alan de G1FXB
 


In the dim & very distance past I think the GPS validation feature in either the U3S or the QCX (it's too long ago.....)
caused problems even when used in conjunction with the Labs own QLG1,

If your U3S firmware has it currently set on, does the 2D/3D field display correctly display with GPS validation off?
Hopefully once the U3S is parsing the string to display  the fix data the Lat/ Lon message will TX as well, but personally never used the message feature......

Alan

On 08/08/2020 10:25, Phil Crockford wrote:

All (4) of the GPS’s I have were provided by QRPLabs and they all do the same thing. I didn’t think it was unreasonable to assume that they are compatible with the product they are provided for but, if I have to determine the O/p strings that are enabled then I will. The GPS module provided on the board is the YIC51612E.

 I wonder if anyone else has attempted to use the GPS position on CW or even if the 2D/3D display on the U3s is displayed correctly on their U3s. It would be interesting to know if it normally works or, if I am looking for a problem with my setup.

 

Question:            Can someone confirm that the GPS 2D/3D is displayed correctly on their U3S?

Question:            Can anyone tell me what GPS string the U3s uses to determine the 2D/3D fix parameter?

 

I have the documentation for the YIC51612E. The NMEA string $GNGSA  mode2 perimeter has data indicating the 2D/3D status. Is this the string that the U3s uses to determine the data for that parameter or is there another I have missed?

 

Many thanks for your input.

 

Phil G8IOA

 

From: QRPLabs@groups.io [mailto:QRPLabs@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Justice
Sent: 08 August 2020 00:00
To: QRPLabs
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

 

Phil

 

You might check which sentence strengs the GPs is outputting. There are several sentences output by NMEA standard GPS units. Some of the data is common in some strings, but not in others. Check the manufacturer's documentation regarding how to set the output to a string or several strings that provide the required data.

 

73,

Shane

KE7TR

 

 

On Aug 7, 2020 at 11:23, Phil Crockford <pcc@...> wrote:

I have a working Ulimate3S and am using it on wspr and CW.
I am using the massage entry in the system to determine the CW content.
I have a number of working GPS's that appears to work correctly and displays the current data on LCD display.
The only difference to the data display and the U3s documentation, regarding the GPS, is that the "3D,2D or none" that should be in the display of the GPS data is permanently "--". (and always has been form the time I purchased the GPS's). The GPS is one supplied by QRPLabs and I have 3 such GPS's and they all provide the same "--" . 
The U3s calculates the Maidenhead correctly, which would indicate that the GPS unit and the U3s software is working ok.
I have entered the Tags in to the message entry window "#CS #M6"
The Morse comes out fine if I use Callsign and Maidenhead locator as above.
I now wish to add the Lat and Long to the Message and the system allows me to enter the Tags for it. "#CS #M6 #LT #LN" in the message.
When the U3s attempts to send the message it sends the Callsign and the Maidenhead locator ok but, appears to reject the Lat and Long data, and from what I can see it just displays a "--" momentarily on the LCD and the display then goes blank for a couple of seconds and then returns to the normal LCD.
I have tried putting the Lat and Long first "#LT #LN #CS #M6" but it then refuses to send any of the message.
I hope I have provided enough info to solicit some help
If it is because the NMEA string that provides the 2D,3D information if missing and that the U3s requires that data before it will send the Lat, Long.data, what do I need to correct the problem.

Phil G8IOA


-- 
Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable


Re: Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

Phil Crockford
 

All (4) of the GPS’s I have were provided by QRPLabs and they all do the same thing. I didn’t think it was unreasonable to assume that they are compatible with the product they are provided for but, if I have to determine the O/p strings that are enabled then I will. The GPS module provided on the board is the YIC51612E.

 I wonder if anyone else has attempted to use the GPS position on CW or even if the 2D/3D display on the U3s is displayed correctly on their U3s. It would be interesting to know if it normally works or, if I am looking for a problem with my setup.

 

Question:            Can someone confirm that the GPS 2D/3D is displayed correctly on their U3S?

Question:            Can anyone tell me what GPS string the U3s uses to determine the 2D/3D fix parameter?

 

I have the documentation for the YIC51612E. The NMEA string $GNGSA  mode2 perimeter has data indicating the 2D/3D status. Is this the string that the U3s uses to determine the data for that parameter or is there another I have missed?

 

Many thanks for your input.

 

Phil G8IOA

 

From: QRPLabs@groups.io [mailto:QRPLabs@groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane Justice
Sent: 08 August 2020 00:00
To: QRPLabs
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

 

Phil

 

You might check which sentence strengs the GPs is outputting. There are several sentences output by NMEA standard GPS units. Some of the data is common in some strings, but not in others. Check the manufacturer's documentation regarding how to set the output to a string or several strings that provide the required data.

 

73,

Shane

KE7TR

 

 

On Aug 7, 2020 at 11:23, Phil Crockford <pcc@...> wrote:

I have a working Ulimate3S and am using it on wspr and CW.
I am using the massage entry in the system to determine the CW content.
I have a number of working GPS's that appears to work correctly and displays the current data on LCD display.
The only difference to the data display and the U3s documentation, regarding the GPS, is that the "3D,2D or none" that should be in the display of the GPS data is permanently "--". (and always has been form the time I purchased the GPS's). The GPS is one supplied by QRPLabs and I have 3 such GPS's and they all provide the same "--" . 
The U3s calculates the Maidenhead correctly, which would indicate that the GPS unit and the U3s software is working ok.
I have entered the Tags in to the message entry window "#CS #M6"
The Morse comes out fine if I use Callsign and Maidenhead locator as above.
I now wish to add the Lat and Long to the Message and the system allows me to enter the Tags for it. "#CS #M6 #LT #LN" in the message.
When the U3s attempts to send the message it sends the Callsign and the Maidenhead locator ok but, appears to reject the Lat and Long data, and from what I can see it just displays a "--" momentarily on the LCD and the display then goes blank for a couple of seconds and then returns to the normal LCD.
I have tried putting the Lat and Long first "#LT #LN #CS #M6" but it then refuses to send any of the message.
I hope I have provided enough info to solicit some help
If it is because the NMEA string that provides the 2D,3D information if missing and that the U3s requires that data before it will send the Lat, Long.data, what do I need to correct the problem.

Phil G8IOA


Re: Audio output works with headphones or speaker plugged in half/part way.

Richard G4TGJ
 

If you fit a mono socket then when you plug in stereo headphones you only get sound in one ear. Fit a stereo socket and then a mono plug will short the output.

You can get adapters to allow you to plug a mono plug into a stereo socket. 
--
73
Richard
G4TGJ


Re: Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

Phil Crockford
 

I knew there would be something that I thought was obvious that I did not mention. I am using a QRP Ocxo/si5351a and the 1pps form the GPS is connected  and is being used to set the frequency. It works fine. Thanks for your reply.

Phil G8ioa

 

From: QRPLabs@groups.io [mailto:QRPLabs@groups.io] On Behalf Of geoff M0ORE via groups.io
Sent: 07 August 2020 21:34
To: QRPLabs@groups.io
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

 

I "think" you have to have the 1 PPS connected as well, not just the NEMA. I am sure others will confirm or rubbish this suggestion.

On 07/08/2020 19:23, Phil Crockford wrote:

I have a working Ulimate3S and am using it on wspr and CW.
I am using the massage entry in the system to determine the CW content.
I have a number of working GPS's that appears to work correctly and displays the current data on LCD display.
The only difference to the data display and the U3s documentation, regarding the GPS, is that the "3D,2D or none" that should be in the display of the GPS data is permanently "--". (and always has been form the time I purchased the GPS's). The GPS is one supplied by QRPLabs and I have 3 such GPS's and they all provide the same "--" . 
The U3s calculates the Maidenhead correctly, which would indicate that the GPS unit and the U3s software is working ok.
I have entered the Tags in to the message entry window "#CS #M6"
The Morse comes out fine if I use Callsign and Maidenhead locator as above.
I now wish to add the Lat and Long to the Message and the system allows me to enter the Tags for it. "#CS #M6 #LT #LN" in the message.
When the U3s attempts to send the message it sends the Callsign and the Maidenhead locator ok but, appears to reject the Lat and Long data, and from what I can see it just displays a "--" momentarily on the LCD and the display then goes blank for a couple of seconds and then returns to the normal LCD.
I have tried putting the Lat and Long first "#LT #LN #CS #M6" but it then refuses to send any of the message.
I hope I have provided enough info to solicit some help
If it is because the NMEA string that provides the 2D,3D information if missing and that the U3s requires that data before it will send the Lat, Long.data, what do I need to correct the problem.

Phil G8IOA


Re: OT Forum message order?

Russ@va3rr
 

Bruce, are you speaking of the chronology of a number of replies to a specific topic, when viewing on the group's.io webpage?

If so, just hit the 'date' setting, and the web interface will sort the messages in the opposite manner.

If you receive forum content by email, I can't speak to that...


Re: Audio output works with headphones or speaker plugged in half/part way.

Dave
 

Audio connector jack is a stereo unit with the same signal on both tip and ring.  A mono plug shorts out the audio signal on the ring connection and thus the entire audio signal.  By pushing the plug in only partially you are hearing the audio signal from the ring connection on the plug tip.

Use a stereo 3.5mm plug and you can wire a mono headphone to both ring and tip, or leave the ring disconnected.  Or use stereo headphones.

Dave


On Aug 8, 2020, at 01:32, Matthew J. Struthers <mstruthers@...> wrote:


Okay, I searched all over the place for an answer/suggestion before posting this.

I finished my QCX CW kit for 40 meters at the last part of July so that I could take it camping with me.  When I started working with it, I found that I didn't have any audio.  I tried with a stereo plug for headphones and a mono plug for a speaker.  However, I found that if the headphones or speaker were plugged in part way, then I would get audio.  I reheated the solder joints to make sure that I had good contact.  With that, I went camping with my dipole and figured I'd fix it when I returned.  Just before I came home, the audio stopped working with my headphones.

Tonight, I got back to it because I wanted to build a case for it.  Using the mono plug on a speaker still only worked when it was partially plugged in.  I unsoldered the original jack from the PCB and soldered in another one I had in my box.

I still only have audio when things are partially plugged in.

Any suggestions?

This seems like something I ran into 40 years ago when I was a kid.  We would keep monkeying with a worn out set of headphones, until we found the right spot for them to work, then applying lots of tape.

- Matthew J. Struthers


Audio output works with headphones or speaker plugged in half/part way.

Matthew J. Struthers
 

Okay, I searched all over the place for an answer/suggestion before posting this.

I finished my QCX CW kit for 40 meters at the last part of July so that I could take it camping with me.  When I started working with it, I found that I didn't have any audio.  I tried with a stereo plug for headphones and a mono plug for a speaker.  However, I found that if the headphones or speaker were plugged in part way, then I would get audio.  I reheated the solder joints to make sure that I had good contact.  With that, I went camping with my dipole and figured I'd fix it when I returned.  Just before I came home, the audio stopped working with my headphones.

Tonight, I got back to it because I wanted to build a case for it.  Using the mono plug on a speaker still only worked when it was partially plugged in.  I unsoldered the original jack from the PCB and soldered in another one I had in my box.

I still only have audio when things are partially plugged in.

Any suggestions?

This seems like something I ran into 40 years ago when I was a kid.  We would keep monkeying with a worn out set of headphones, until we found the right spot for them to work, then applying lots of tape.

- Matthew J. Struthers


OT Forum message order?

Bruce K1FFX
 

Did something happen such that messages now appear latest at the top, rather than earliest?  Or am I just not remembering correctly from last week or so?

- Bruce K1FFX


Re: Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

Shane Justice
 

Phil

You might check which sentence strengs the GPs is outputting. There are several sentences output by NMEA standard GPS units. Some of the data is common in some strings, but not in others. Check the manufacturer's documentation regarding how to set the output to a string or several strings that provide the required data.

73,
Shane
KE7TR


On Aug 7, 2020 at 11:23, Phil Crockford <pcc@...> wrote:

I have a working Ulimate3S and am using it on wspr and CW.
I am using the massage entry in the system to determine the CW content.
I have a number of working GPS's that appears to work correctly and displays the current data on LCD display.
The only difference to the data display and the U3s documentation, regarding the GPS, is that the "3D,2D or none" that should be in the display of the GPS data is permanently "--". (and always has been form the time I purchased the GPS's). The GPS is one supplied by QRPLabs and I have 3 such GPS's and they all provide the same "--" . 
The U3s calculates the Maidenhead correctly, which would indicate that the GPS unit and the U3s software is working ok.
I have entered the Tags in to the message entry window "#CS #M6"
The Morse comes out fine if I use Callsign and Maidenhead locator as above.
I now wish to add the Lat and Long to the Message and the system allows me to enter the Tags for it. "#CS #M6 #LT #LN" in the message.
When the U3s attempts to send the message it sends the Callsign and the Maidenhead locator ok but, appears to reject the Lat and Long data, and from what I can see it just displays a "--" momentarily on the LCD and the display then goes blank for a couple of seconds and then returns to the normal LCD.
I have tried putting the Lat and Long first "#LT #LN #CS #M6" but it then refuses to send any of the message.
I hope I have provided enough info to solicit some help
If it is because the NMEA string that provides the 2D,3D information if missing and that the U3s requires that data before it will send the Lat, Long.data, what do I need to correct the problem.

Phil G8IOA


Re: QCX in WSPR mode with GPS, clock stops (fw: v1.05) #qlg1 #gps #wspr #qcx #firmware

Howard K6IA
 

Glad it works for you also!
Howard K6IA


Re: help !

John AK4AT
 

That's great Jay! Keep learning and tweaking and you'll get it all sorted out. Be sure to evaluate it all again when you run across a S9+ equivalent signal. I like working with headphones, but I also got one of these amplified Bluetooth speakers with an aux cable that are everywhere for about $10. It works quite nicely and saved my ears until I sorted everything out.


Re: QCX mini: RF output BNC or SMA #poll-notice

Graham, VE3GTC
 

This is has been an interesting discussion.

Besides SMA and BNC, the TNC and RCA connector has been mentioned but in reality there are many more good choices.

For example, the FME connector ( FME - For Mobile Equipment ), good to several GHz, PCB mount, bulkhead mount, size not too much bigger than RG-58 cable, and not very expensive.

There is also the mini UHF connector, also good to several GHz, PCB mount, bulkhead mount,.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:14 PM m0bmn via groups.io <m0bmn=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Anything but SMA, i have broken to many of them! RCA is small which may help keep the size down, but BNC is well tested in this application. Either will fine by me.
73 Paul M0BMN


Re: Ultimate3S and using message Tag. #u3s

geoff M0ORE
 

I "think" you have to have the 1 PPS connected as well, not just the NEMA. I am sure others will confirm or rubbish this suggestion.

On 07/08/2020 19:23, Phil Crockford wrote:
I have a working Ulimate3S and am using it on wspr and CW.
I am using the massage entry in the system to determine the CW content.
I have a number of working GPS's that appears to work correctly and displays the current data on LCD display.
The only difference to the data display and the U3s documentation, regarding the GPS, is that the "3D,2D or none" that should be in the display of the GPS data is permanently "--". (and always has been form the time I purchased the GPS's). The GPS is one supplied by QRPLabs and I have 3 such GPS's and they all provide the same "--" . 
The U3s calculates the Maidenhead correctly, which would indicate that the GPS unit and the U3s software is working ok.
I have entered the Tags in to the message entry window "#CS #M6"
The Morse comes out fine if I use Callsign and Maidenhead locator as above.
I now wish to add the Lat and Long to the Message and the system allows me to enter the Tags for it. "#CS #M6 #LT #LN" in the message.
When the U3s attempts to send the message it sends the Callsign and the Maidenhead locator ok but, appears to reject the Lat and Long data, and from what I can see it just displays a "--" momentarily on the LCD and the display then goes blank for a couple of seconds and then returns to the normal LCD.
I have tried putting the Lat and Long first "#LT #LN #CS #M6" but it then refuses to send any of the message.
I hope I have provided enough info to solicit some help
If it is because the NMEA string that provides the 2D,3D information if missing and that the U3s requires that data before it will send the Lat, Long.data, what do I need to correct the problem.

Phil G8IOA


Re: help !

ny2ny
 

IT WORKS !!
My problem was the sensitivity in Menu 8 was set too high - backed off the volume control and found all 3 minimum settings easily. Radio works well - about 3.5 watts out and receives ok .
Some other issues:
1) Seems to lack enough audio output. Volume control full up all the time. Maybe change some component to increase audio gain ? Add audio transformer to better match lo-Z earphones ?
2) Can not adjust the sidetone level - stays the same level no matter what setting I use.
3) What are the recommended nominal Decoder settings  ? Sometimes works FB and sometimes does not decode anything, maybe that's the best it can do ? Or should you adjust it for every received signal ?
4) Is there a way to get the display to read output power or at least indicate that it's transmitting during normal operation ? I guess I could add a jumper from L1 to the RF PWR  terminal and read it on menu 9 but then would have to switch to the Menu every time I transmit...
  Thanks for the help so far guys ...hope to make my first qso tonite !
               73 jay NY2NY


Re: QCX mini: RF output BNC or SMA #poll-notice

m0bmn
 

Anything but SMA, i have broken to many of them! RCA is small which may help keep the size down, but BNC is well tested in this application. Either will fine by me.
73 Paul M0BMN


Re: QCX mini: RF output BNC or SMA #poll-notice

namerati@...
 

How about MCX? Rated for 500 cycles... I have a DSO Quad pocket oscilloscope that uses them and they're pretty nice for quick setups.

On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 05:49:57PM +0000, Lee wrote:
I too vote RCA. Small, inexpensive, easy to fix if something goes wrong. 'Been using them for RF for nearly 60 years with fine success.
Absolutely not SMA!

-Lee- WA3FIY

------ Original Message ------
From: "Jim Mcilroy via groups.io" <gts53=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: QRPLabs@groups.io
Sent: 8/7/2020 12:05:45 PM
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] QCX mini: RF output BNC or SMA

Used to have a Heathkit 20m rig with an RCA connector. Ran 100W through it. Never had any problems.

An RCA phono would be a good choice also.

I am also a supporter of a BNC with SMA alternative PCB pad but I accept that might be awkward with a case end plate.

73 Jim G4EQX


On 7 Aug 2020, at 15:53, Kees T <windy10605@...> wrote:

Collins Radio thought RCA connectors with the little ceramic insulator inside were great and were 50 ohms......for desktop use only, however. No mechanical stress on the external cables.

73 Kees K5BCQ



Re: #qcx #qcx

m0bmn
 

Glad its working, sounds like it may be a bad/cold joint or so, double check the board with a magnifying  glass in good light and retouch any joints that look dry etc , but i am sure you know this anyway so i am sure you will sort it, i didnt think i was going to get mine working  but it was just a couple of simple ground shorts i had made being careless, now mine is working great  and i am sure yours will be too.
take care
73 Paul M0BMN


Re: QSO Today Virtual Ham Radio Expo - 08/09 August

Rick Williams - VE7TK
 

Well played Hans!!

Happy anniversary as well!!

73, Rick
VE7TK

--
73, Rick
VE7TK


Re: #qcx #qcx

rrossio@...
 

Thank you for the responses. For some reason the radio is now working fine with 4 watts output.
I am using my station power supply with 13.8 volts.
I checked internal voltage check points for power And RF and they were ok.
I will continue to test and look for cold Solder joints or loose connections.
made one QSO on 80 so far about 300 miles.
Rob N3EQ