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Re: Today’s mechanical challenge

Stephen McDowell <stephen.mcdowell2020@...>
 

Correction temp should be between  180 and 190

v/r
Steve
703-628-8194 - Cell



On Sunday, August 16, 2020, 11:06:58 AM EDT, Stephen McDowell <stephen.mcdowell2020@...> wrote:


Wish I could see the B first hand but, since i can't, let me shoot some suggests as several things come to mind.
- use a thermal temp gauge to check the temp at the water intake area (above thermostat)  it should read around 190 degrees, you should have the high temp thermostat that kicks in at 180 degrees
- check the compression of the cylinders.  They should be all about the same between 120 and 150.  My B too was overheating a bit and when I check the compression I had 120, 0, 120, 120.  Pulled the head and found it cracked and that is what was causing the issue.
- are both front fans spinning? or if you have a behind radiator fan, if it working?
- another problem may be the fans and spinning backwards.  The fan should be pushing air into the radiator, not pulling thru the radiator. 
- if there is an air deflector under your front bumper, make sure the license plate is not installed dead center as this block the flow of air into the radiator.

- you mentioned that it might be vapor in the fuel line to the canisters that is causing hard starts after you have been driving..  If there is vapor there, it will cool to wet gas and then the engine won't start.  Once the engine sits awhile, the gas in the line will evaporate and you can start the car, the problem is when it sits there when you are driving and if you try to start the engine when hot, it won't.This is caused by the line dipping when the hood is closed and making a valley for the vapor.  Use a wire tie and attach it to one of the other hoses to keep is "up" when the hood is closed.

v/r
Steve
703-628-8194 - Cell



On Sunday, August 16, 2020, 10:41:56 AM EDT, James Graves via groups.io <merryhill@...> wrote:


The Gimlet (‘73 B) has always run hot since I’ve owned her.  “Normal running temp” has the gauge mid-way between normal and hot.

In an effort to address this, I have flushed the radiator, replacing the coolant and installed an oil- cooler this summer.  She still runs hot, now closer to the warning zone on the gauge.

Yesterday, I stalled her and couldn’t get the starter to fire her up.  Popped the clutch to her her going and home.  Wouldn’t re-start in the garage until she sat.  Wondering if the hot engine was vaporizing the fuel?  I do hate my Weber.... next project!

Thinking I should test the thermostat.  Other thoughts?????



Re: Today’s mechanical challenge

James Graves
 

Great suggestions. Thank you!

Jim Graves


On Aug 16, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Stephen McDowell via groups.io <stephen.mcdowell2020@...> wrote:


Wish I could see the B first hand but, since i can't, let me shoot some suggests as several things come to mind.
- use a thermal temp gauge to check the temp at the water intake area (above thermostat)  it should read around 190 degrees, you should have the high temp thermostat that kicks in at 180 degrees
- check the compression of the cylinders.  They should be all about the same between 120 and 150.  My B too was overheating a bit and when I check the compression I had 120, 0, 120, 120.  Pulled the head and found it cracked and that is what was causing the issue.
- are both front fans spinning? or if you have a behind radiator fan, if it working?
- another problem may be the fans and spinning backwards.  The fan should be pushing air into the radiator, not pulling thru the radiator. 
- if there is an air deflector under your front bumper, make sure the license plate is not installed dead center as this block the flow of air into the radiator.

- you mentioned that it might be vapor in the fuel line to the canisters that is causing hard starts after you have been driving..  If there is vapor there, it will cool to wet gas and then the engine won't start.  Once the engine sits awhile, the gas in the line will evaporate and you can start the car, the problem is when it sits there when you are driving and if you try to start the engine when hot, it won't.This is caused by the line dipping when the hood is closed and making a valley for the vapor.  Use a wire tie and attach it to one of the other hoses to keep is "up" when the hood is closed.

v/r
Steve
703-628-8194 - Cell



On Sunday, August 16, 2020, 10:41:56 AM EDT, James Graves via groups.io <merryhill@...> wrote:


The Gimlet (‘73 B) has always run hot since I’ve owned her.  “Normal running temp” has the gauge mid-way between normal and hot.

In an effort to address this, I have flushed the radiator, replacing the coolant and installed an oil- cooler this summer.  She still runs hot, now closer to the warning zone on the gauge.

Yesterday, I stalled her and couldn’t get the starter to fire her up.  Popped the clutch to her her going and home.  Wouldn’t re-start in the garage until she sat.  Wondering if the hot engine was vaporizing the fuel?  I do hate my Weber.... next project!

Thinking I should test the thermostat.  Other thoughts?????



Re: Today’s mechanical challenge

Stephen McDowell <stephen.mcdowell2020@...>
 

Wish I could see the B first hand but, since i can't, let me shoot some suggests as several things come to mind.
- use a thermal temp gauge to check the temp at the water intake area (above thermostat)  it should read around 190 degrees, you should have the high temp thermostat that kicks in at 180 degrees
- check the compression of the cylinders.  They should be all about the same between 120 and 150.  My B too was overheating a bit and when I check the compression I had 120, 0, 120, 120.  Pulled the head and found it cracked and that is what was causing the issue.
- are both front fans spinning? or if you have a behind radiator fan, if it working?
- another problem may be the fans and spinning backwards.  The fan should be pushing air into the radiator, not pulling thru the radiator. 
- if there is an air deflector under your front bumper, make sure the license plate is not installed dead center as this block the flow of air into the radiator.

- you mentioned that it might be vapor in the fuel line to the canisters that is causing hard starts after you have been driving..  If there is vapor there, it will cool to wet gas and then the engine won't start.  Once the engine sits awhile, the gas in the line will evaporate and you can start the car, the problem is when it sits there when you are driving and if you try to start the engine when hot, it won't.This is caused by the line dipping when the hood is closed and making a valley for the vapor.  Use a wire tie and attach it to one of the other hoses to keep is "up" when the hood is closed.

v/r
Steve
703-628-8194 - Cell



On Sunday, August 16, 2020, 10:41:56 AM EDT, James Graves via groups.io <merryhill@...> wrote:


The Gimlet (‘73 B) has always run hot since I’ve owned her.  “Normal running temp” has the gauge mid-way between normal and hot.

In an effort to address this, I have flushed the radiator, replacing the coolant and installed an oil- cooler this summer.  She still runs hot, now closer to the warning zone on the gauge.

Yesterday, I stalled her and couldn’t get the starter to fire her up.  Popped the clutch to her her going and home.  Wouldn’t re-start in the garage until she sat.  Wondering if the hot engine was vaporizing the fuel?  I do hate my Weber.... next project!

Thinking I should test the thermostat.  Other thoughts?????



Today’s mechanical challenge

James Graves
 

The Gimlet (‘73 B) has always run hot since I’ve owned her. “Normal running temp” has the gauge mid-way between normal and hot.

In an effort to address this, I have flushed the radiator, replacing the coolant and installed an oil- cooler this summer. She still runs hot, now closer to the warning zone on the gauge.

Yesterday, I stalled her and couldn’t get the starter to fire her up. Popped the clutch to her her going and home. Wouldn’t re-start in the garage until she sat. Wondering if the hot engine was vaporizing the fuel? I do hate my Weber.... next project!

Thinking I should test the thermostat. Other thoughts?????


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Roger Searle
 

Philadelphia MGB Club Meeting last week.

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Re: Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Steve Perlman
 

That's perfect Mark.
So we will have pizza and drinks.

See you all then,

Steve

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:44 PM Rev. Mark McDowell via groups.io <marksmcd=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I will supply a half a case of water, and 3 2 Ltr bottles of soda (Dr pepper, sprite, orange). I can also supply cups napkins and plates if needed.

Mark


On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM, Steve Perlman
Is anyone bringing food?
I will donate 2 Sicilian Pizzas.  One plain, One Everything.
If it is a go,  who is bringing sodas and who is bringing ice.

Stevie P Yellow B

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:00 PM PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT

When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:Abington Baptist Church

View Event

Organizer: kliebel@...

Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church

1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.



--
Yesterday is a Memory, 
Tomorrow is a Mystery, 
Today is a Gift, 
That's why it's called 
The Present...........



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Yesterday is a Memory, 
Tomorrow is a Mystery, 
Today is a Gift, 
That's why it's called 
The Present...........


Re: Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Roger Searle
 

I'll bring the ice and cups

Roger


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Perlman <sperlman63@...>
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Is anyone bringing food?
I will donate 2 Sicilian Pizzas.  One plain, One Everything.
If it is a go,  who is bringing sodas and who is bringing ice.

Stevie P Yellow B

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:00 PM PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@groups.io> wrote:
Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT
When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York
Where:Abington Baptist Church
Organizer: kliebel@...
Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church
1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.


--
Yesterday is a Memory, 
Tomorrow is a Mystery, 
Today is a Gift, 
That's why it's called 
The Present...........


Re: Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Lester Weinraub
 

Have fun. I won't be there as I am away 

Lester


On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Steve Perlman <sperlman63@...> wrote:


Is anyone bringing food?
I will donate 2 Sicilian Pizzas.  One plain, One Everything.
If it is a go,  who is bringing sodas and who is bringing ice.

Stevie P Yellow B

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:00 PM PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT

When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:Abington Baptist Church

View Event

Organizer: kliebel@...

Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church

1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.



--
Yesterday is a Memory, 
Tomorrow is a Mystery, 
Today is a Gift, 
That's why it's called 
The Present...........


Re: Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Rev. Mark McDowell
 

I will supply a half a case of water, and 3 2 Ltr bottles of soda (Dr pepper, sprite, orange). I can also supply cups napkins and plates if needed.

Mark


On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM, Steve Perlman
<sperlman63@...> wrote:
Is anyone bringing food?
I will donate 2 Sicilian Pizzas.  One plain, One Everything.
If it is a go,  who is bringing sodas and who is bringing ice.

Stevie P Yellow B

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:00 PM PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT

When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:Abington Baptist Church

View Event

Organizer: kliebel@...

Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church

1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.



--
Yesterday is a Memory, 
Tomorrow is a Mystery, 
Today is a Gift, 
That's why it's called 
The Present...........


Re: Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

Steve Perlman
 

Is anyone bringing food?
I will donate 2 Sicilian Pizzas.  One plain, One Everything.
If it is a go,  who is bringing sodas and who is bringing ice.

Stevie P Yellow B

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:00 PM PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT

When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:Abington Baptist Church

View Event

Organizer: kliebel@...

Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church

1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.



--
Yesterday is a Memory, 
Tomorrow is a Mystery, 
Today is a Gift, 
That's why it's called 
The Present...........


Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@...>
 

Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT

When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:Abington Baptist Church

View Event

Organizer: kliebel@...

Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church

1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.


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Monthly PMGC GT - Tue, 08/11/2020 7:00pm-9:00pm #cal-reminder

PhillyMGClub@groups.io Calendar <PhillyMGClub@...>
 

Reminder: Monthly PMGC GT

When: Tuesday, 11 August 2020, 7:00pm to 9:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:Abington Baptist Church

View Event

Organizer: kliebel@...

Description: Philadelphia MG Club Monthly GT
Abington Baptist Church

1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001
 
There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink. PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property.


August GT Information

Kristi Liebel
 

August GT Information:

There will be an in-person GT meeting on Tuesday, August 11, 2020

We will be meeting on the grounds of
Abington Baptist Church
1501 Huntingdon Road
Abington, PA 19001

Starting at 7pm.

There is plenty of room to park. Bring a lawn chair, your own food/snack and drink.

PLEASE note that no alcohol is allowed on church property. There will also be two bathrooms available to be used and a Carriage house that could be used in the event of rain.

Any questions, contact club president or Rev. McDowell.


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Re: Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Chip Krout <chip19474@...>
 

thanks...hopefully the small bin of assorted o-rings I've collected for a zillion years will have what I want


-----Original Message-----
From: Ira Spector <spectors4@...>
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io <PhillyMGClub@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 2, 2020 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Harbor Freight sells a metric O-ring kit that has come in handy in situations like this in the past.

Ira

On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:37 PM, Ed Emery via groups.io <john.emery5@...> wrote:


Make sure you get the correct gear for the turns per mile.  Your speedo gauge should have it at the bottom of the face.
 
From: PhillyMGClub@groups.io [mailto:PhillyMGClub@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin McLemore
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 1:13 PM
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)
 
Yeah, usually there’s an o-ring that’s replaceable - certainly that’s an inexpensive and pretty quick fix.
Cheers,
Kevin

On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Chip Krout via groups.io <chip19474@...> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a new speedo drive gear for my '76 MGB?  It's the speedo gear on the pass side of the transmission....mine is leaking - not a big deal but, what the heck, I have the time.  If there's an O RIng in the gear housing that is replaceable, please let me know - I'll do that.
 
Thanks,
 
Chip Krout


Re: Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Chip Krout <chip19474@...>
 

thanks....I'm aware of the gear teeth issue...hoping to do an o-ring replacement and keep what I have...fingers crossed


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Emery via groups.io <john.emery5@...>
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 2, 2020 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Make sure you get the correct gear for the turns per mile.  Your speedo gauge should have it at the bottom of the face.
 
From: PhillyMGClub@groups.io [mailto:PhillyMGClub@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin McLemore
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 1:13 PM
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)
 
Yeah, usually there’s an o-ring that’s replaceable - certainly that’s an inexpensive and pretty quick fix.
Cheers,
Kevin

On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Chip Krout via groups.io <chip19474@...> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a new speedo drive gear for my '76 MGB?  It's the speedo gear on the pass side of the transmission....mine is leaking - not a big deal but, what the heck, I have the time.  If there's an O RIng in the gear housing that is replaceable, please let me know - I'll do that.
 
Thanks,
 
Chip Krout


Re: Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Ira Spector
 

Harbor Freight sells a metric O-ring kit that has come in handy in situations like this in the past.

Ira

On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:37 PM, Ed Emery via groups.io <john.emery5@...> wrote:



Make sure you get the correct gear for the turns per mile.  Your speedo gauge should have it at the bottom of the face.

 

From: PhillyMGClub@groups.io [mailto:PhillyMGClub@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin McLemore
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 1:13 PM
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

 

Yeah, usually there’s an o-ring that’s replaceable - certainly that’s an inexpensive and pretty quick fix.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Chip Krout via groups.io <chip19474@...> wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find a new speedo drive gear for my '76 MGB?  It's the speedo gear on the pass side of the transmission....mine is leaking - not a big deal but, what the heck, I have the time.  If there's an O RIng in the gear housing that is replaceable, please let me know - I'll do that.

 

Thanks,

 

Chip Krout


Re: Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Ed Emery
 

Make sure you get the correct gear for the turns per mile.  Your speedo gauge should have it at the bottom of the face.

 

From: PhillyMGClub@groups.io [mailto:PhillyMGClub@groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin McLemore
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 1:13 PM
To: PhillyMGClub@groups.io
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

 

Yeah, usually there’s an o-ring that’s replaceable - certainly that’s an inexpensive and pretty quick fix.

Cheers,

Kevin


On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Chip Krout via groups.io <chip19474@...> wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find a new speedo drive gear for my '76 MGB?  It's the speedo gear on the pass side of the transmission....mine is leaking - not a big deal but, what the heck, I have the time.  If there's an O RIng in the gear housing that is replaceable, please let me know - I'll do that.

 

Thanks,

 

Chip Krout


Re: Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Kevin McLemore
 

Yeah, usually there’s an o-ring that’s replaceable - certainly that’s an inexpensive and pretty quick fix.

Cheers,
Kevin

On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Chip Krout via groups.io <chip19474@...> wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find a new speedo drive gear for my '76 MGB?  It's the speedo gear on the pass side of the transmission....mine is leaking - not a big deal but, what the heck, I have the time.  If there's an O RIng in the gear housing that is replaceable, please let me know - I'll do that.

Thanks,

Chip Krout


Transmission Mounted Speedo Drive Gear For '76 MGB (not right angle)

Chip Krout <chip19474@...>
 

Does anyone know where I can find a new speedo drive gear for my '76 MGB?  It's the speedo gear on the pass side of the transmission....mine is leaking - not a big deal but, what the heck, I have the time.  If there's an O RIng in the gear housing that is replaceable, please let me know - I'll do that.

Thanks,

Chip Krout

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