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"Malke-Sage" On EBay

 

Greetings:

One of Nagel's earlier serigraphs, Malke-Sage, is up for sale on EBay with a Buy It Now price of US$1950.  The seller maintains the following:

#64 of 250 Serigraphs.  Deceased Patrick Nagel and from a Gallery where he signed his 250 Serigraphs, Malke-Sage in Pacific Grove (Monterey), California.  Purchased for $2K willing to start the bidding at $1,500.  Has been framed for several years, so totally sealed.  A rare find, don’t miss out and Buy It Now. $15 flat rate shipping to continental US.

I'm betting this is a seller who doesn't really know what he's selling. First, I'm not sure that anyone, anywhere would pay US$2000 for this piece.  Don't get me wrong, I love it and own one, but I just can't recall any time when Malke-Sage sold for anywhere close to two grand.  Also, the seller has tipped his hand by saying Nagel signed the piece at the gallery, which we all know never happened.  The only time Nagel signed work outside of the print studio was either at his desk at home or at an event -- and most of the event signings are dated and distinctly different, often personalized with names and dates.

Just a few clues when you're out there shopping.  I'll be surprised if this one sells.

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Found some older Gommerman Nagel art prior to the Hollywood poster

 

I agree, Heather. Maybe if they were originals, they might be worth four figures. As prints -- and I believe theses are lithos, not serigraphs -- a few hundred is still overpriced.

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Found some older Gommerman Nagel art prior to the Hollywood poster

Heather Arender
 

My research have these worth less than $500. They were printed after death. I could be wrong though but definitely not worth $2000. 
Please correct me if wrong anyone
Heather  


On Feb 20, 2019, at 8:58 PM, G G <ggascay@...> wrote:

Ran into the owner of the Gommerman piece today. He said it was a private sale in the 90's and mentioned something about the previous owner saying it being from Kodak marketing prints that were not released. Does that make sense? The image is Pre-ITT and Pre-Hollywood with a 1979 Gommerman copyright.  He "thinks" its worth about $2000... I'm not buying it, but wonder if anyone is curious or wanted more info? 

Geff

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:32 AM <JPS@...> wrote:

What were they asking for the Gommerman?

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On 2018-11-15 11:49 am, G G wrote:

Found this in my very small rural town (pop ~ 1500) browsing a local mixed business shop (spa/nails/art/framing/etc) in a poster sleeve. Looks like one of the earlier Gommerman 1979 series serigraphs before they printed the Hollywood version.
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They also had a framed Mirage edition on the wall, and that's why I even looked inside. 
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The person managing wasn't too familiar and said they were from a local estate and I think they were in the $500 range, but I wasn't too interested at the time. Are they worth a second look to anyone?

Geff

Re: Found some older Gommerman Nagel art prior to the Hollywood poster

G G
 

Ran into the owner of the Gommerman piece today. He said it was a private sale in the 90's and mentioned something about the previous owner saying it being from Kodak marketing prints that were not released. Does that make sense? The image is Pre-ITT and Pre-Hollywood with a 1979 Gommerman copyright.  He "thinks" its worth about $2000... I'm not buying it, but wonder if anyone is curious or wanted more info? 

Geff

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:32 AM <JPS@...> wrote:

What were they asking for the Gommerman?

---
J. Phillip Steinman
Attorney at Law
100 Homer Adams Parkway, Suite 100
PO Box 3292
Alton, IL  62002
618.465.2800

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On 2018-11-15 11:49 am, G G wrote:

Found this in my very small rural town (pop ~ 1500) browsing a local mixed business shop (spa/nails/art/framing/etc) in a poster sleeve. Looks like one of the earlier Gommerman 1979 series serigraphs before they printed the Hollywood version.
  

They also had a framed Mirage edition on the wall, and that's why I even looked inside. 


The person managing wasn't too familiar and said they were from a local estate and I think they were in the $500 range, but I wasn't too interested at the time. Are they worth a second look to anyone?

Geff

Re: Double-signed?

Susan del Barrio
 

Sure is a lot for a SIS


On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:48 PM, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:

Once again, there's another Nagel serigraph up on EBay that describes itself as "double signed."

It's actually known as Galerie Michael, advertising the gallery of the same name that was quite the rage in 1980s Los Angeles.  While writing the book, I tried to interview the gallery's original owner (Michael Levine, I believe), but by that time, was told his health wouldn't permit him to contribute anything meaningful.  Still, he was a big player in Nagel art and his gallery still survives today in Beverly Hills on Rodeo Drive.

Getting back to the "double signed," it appears to be an SIS that was personally autographed by Patrick Nagel a year after its issue (1982) and a year prior to his death (1984).  Nagel would often autograph his pieces for fans if he attended an opening or some type of function.  However, collectors pretty much agree that a personally autographed piece actually reduces the value of a piece.

How this seller can price this at US$1999 is puzzling to me.

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

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Double-signed?

 

Once again, there's another Nagel serigraph up on EBay that describes itself as "double signed."

It's actually known as Galerie Michael, advertising the gallery of the same name that was quite the rage in 1980s Los Angeles.  While writing the book, I tried to interview the gallery's original owner (Michael Levine, I believe), but by that time, was told his health wouldn't permit him to contribute anything meaningful.  Still, he was a big player in Nagel art and his gallery still survives today in Beverly Hills on Rodeo Drive.

Getting back to the "double signed," it appears to be an SIS that was personally autographed by Patrick Nagel a year after its issue (1982) and a year prior to his death (1984).  Nagel would often autograph his pieces for fans if he attended an opening or some type of function.  However, collectors pretty much agree that a personally autographed piece actually reduces the value of a piece.

How this seller can price this at US$1999 is puzzling to me.

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com


Re: Another early piece up for auction

 

It's certainly possible.  This one was part of that remake, with the recognizable faces of Robert Redford and Mia Farrow.



Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Another early piece up for auction

Cooper_Monster
 

I'm just going to toss out a theory here that this is a riff on "The Great Gatsby", the version with Robert Redford and Mia Farrow that came out in 1974.

Another early piece up for auction

 

Greetings:

The fourth piece up for auction at smauctions.com in early March, 2019, is this one from 1975.  This is an illustration for an ad, not yet Nagel's final style. Measures 14.5" x 24.5".  Acrylic on board.



Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

Craig Blankenship
 

Any idea who various male models were ?  Man in pink shirt and also Sitting Man ??


On Feb 10, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Susan del Barrio via Groups.Io <susanolar@...> wrote:

I new Tracy well. Her father was connected in Vegas. She is a sweet person. Freddy gave me a few parts on the show HUNTER, thanks to Tracy.

 

On Feb 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:

According to Barry Haun, it's Traci Viccaro Dryer.  Uncensored Playboy image:

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Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

Susan del Barrio
 

I new Tracy well. Her father was connected in Vegas. She is a sweet person. Freddy gave me a few parts on the show HUNTER, thanks to Tracy.

 

On Feb 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:

According to Barry Haun, it's Traci Viccaro Dryer.  Uncensored Playboy image:

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Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

 

According to Barry Haun, it's Traci Viccaro Dryer.  Uncensored Playboy image:



Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

Susan del Barrio
 

I love it!! Wonder who she is?


On Feb 9, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Craig Blankenship <Craig@...> wrote:

Price ?


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:10 PM, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:

Holy cow! Look what just surfaced after decades! Stunning acrylic on board.

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Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

 

Here's the actual page:




Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

 

Correction:

The piece actually appeared in the March, 1984, issue of the Playboy Forum

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

"Casa Lupita" A/P on EBAY

 

Greetings:

An A/P of Casa Lupita, one of Nagel's most beautiful, early works is up for sale on EBAY right now for a Buy it Now price of US$998.  That's not bad at all, and could even get lower if you make an offer.



Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

 

The piece measures about 9" x 12" and was apparently featured in the October, 1984, issue of Playboy, which was obviously published after Nagel died.  It was supposedly purchased by John Taylor of Duran Duran in some transaction back then, which is weird, because Playboy was intent on holding as much of Nagel's work as it could -- if it could -- after the Copyright Act of 1977.  This actually may explain how it fell into private hands:  If Nagel had renegotiated his deal with Playboy to retain all rights to his works after 1978, the piece might have been returned to him (or his estate by that time) after it had been published.

In any event, the piece is expected to go for US$20K+, which wouldn't surprise me.  Look for at least US$25K.

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Brilliant new original discovered

Craig Blankenship
 

Price ?


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:10 PM, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:

Holy cow! Look what just surfaced after decades! Stunning acrylic on board.

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Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Brilliant new original discovered

 

Holy cow! Look what just surfaced after decades! Stunning acrylic on board.



Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com

Re: Fake "Gray Lady" on EBay?

Craig Blankenship
 

I own some A/Ps.   It’s labeled as A/P.  Certainly , I would think (but could be wrong) that if someone was going to forge these things , they would at least do their homework....but who knows ?


On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:21 PM, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:

....and after all that, the piece was removed from EBay.

Rob Frankel
TheArtistWhoLovedWomen.com