X29 questions
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Dave's Gmail
Group, I am working on detailing three HO scale Red caboose X29 boxcars. I'm thinking about painting one as an REA car. Other than steam hoses, what were the detail differences from the freight cars versus the express cars? Is there a TKM article that has a detailed description?
Thanks! Dave Wilson
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Additional grab irons and steps around the door and marker light brackets off the top of my head. I’d use the red caboose version for the car in lieu of modifying a freight version it came with all the extras.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@...> wrote:
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Dave's Gmail
Ah. I didn’t know that red caboose made an express version.
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Dave
On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...> wrote:
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Dave,
Why not use the RC kit for the express car? It has all the right holes, etc, and parts ready to go.
The express X29 had multiple modifications
Ben Hom described they in a series of TKM articles and in the Keystone. The TKM articles were combined into the 100th issue which is on-line at:
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> on behalf of Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@...>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 11:25 AM To: PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> Subject: [PRRPro] X29 questions Group, I am working on detailing three HO scale Red caboose X29 boxcars. I'm thinking about painting one as an REA car. Other than steam hoses, what were the detail differences from the freight cars versus the express cars? Is there a TKM article that
has a detailed description?
Thanks! Dave Wilson
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Dave's Gmail
Bruce, Were the express car parts in all of the kits? Or was there a
specific express car kit that had extra parts? Dave On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:38 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@auburn.edu> wrote:
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It was specific model. I haven’t found the model number yet.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@gmail.com> wrote:
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Nelson Moyer
I’ve searched for lamp brackets but haven’t found any in HO scale. Does anyone know if anyone is still making them. I need enough for eight cars.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 11:38 AM To: PRRPro@groups.io Subject: Re: [PRRPro] X29 questions
Dave,
Why not use the RC kit for the express car? It has all the right holes, etc, and parts ready to go.
The express X29 had multiple modifications
Ben Hom described they in a series of TKM articles and in the Keystone. The TKM articles were combined into the 100th issue which is on-line at:
Regards, Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL From:
PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> on behalf of Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@...>
Group, I am working on detailing three HO scale Red caboose X29 boxcars. I'm thinking about painting one as an REA car. Other than steam hoses, what were the detail differences from the freight cars versus the express cars? Is there a TKM
article that has a detailed description?
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Dave's Gmail
Thanks, Brian!
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Paul Schulz
Dave, one small added interesting point not mentioned so far is that some of the X29 express cars had special express trucks which were not included in the RC kit which did include trucks just not those special express version. I don’t have this information at my fingertips but I seem to remember it was a GSC of some nomenclature I'm sure others on this list can fully expand on this. As Bruce suggested The RC is a nice kit I probably Built 50 of them years ago when they first came out.
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Paul Schulz Washington Dc Chapter
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From: PRRPro@groups.io [mailto:PRRPro@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 12:58 PM To: PRRPro@groups.io Subject: Re: [PRRPro] X29 questions It was specific model. I haven’t found the model number yet. Brian J. Carlson On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@gmail.com> wrote:
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Dave,
Kit #7028 was the series that came decorated for REA. It's been a while since I built one, so I pulled one off the shelf. I will take it back that they had all the holes. The body is just the normal body. The kit comes with an extra sprue called the "REA detail
sprue".
I just opened a couple of other kits, and the sprue is not included. You used to be able to get the sprue direct from RC, but I don't think you can get it from them or Intermountain any more.
Regards,
Bruce
From: PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> on behalf of Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@...>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 11:48 AM To: PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> Subject: Re: [PRRPro] X29 questions Bruce, Were the express car parts in all of the kits? Or was there a
specific express car kit that had extra parts? Dave On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:38 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote: > > Dave, > > Why not use the RC kit for the express car? It has all the right holes, etc, and parts ready to go. > > The express X29 had multiple modifications > > lamp brackets on the corners > step under the door > grab iron next to the door > Additional grab iron on the ends > Steam and signal lines > > Ben Hom described they in a series of TKM articles and in the Keystone. The TKM articles were combined into the 100th issue which is on-line at: > http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler_PDFs/TKM%20No.%20100%20-%20Spring%202017.pdf > > Regards, > Bruce > Bruce Smith > Auburn, AL > ________________________________ > From: PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> on behalf of Dave's Gmail <davidchriswilson@...> > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 11:25 AM > To: PRRPro@groups.io <PRRPro@groups.io> > Subject: [PRRPro] X29 questions > > Group, I am working on detailing three HO scale Red caboose X29 boxcars. I'm thinking about painting one as an REA car. Other than steam hoses, what were the detail differences from the freight cars versus the express cars? Is there a TKM article that has a detailed description? > Thanks! > Dave Wilson > -- David C. Wilson nanos gigantum humeris insidentes PRRT&HS 9088 (H6sb)
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Dave's Gmail
Thanks, Bruce! I'll keep an eye out for that kit. I'll paint and
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detail the ones I have as freight cars while I look for an express version. Dave
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 1:37 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@auburn.edu> wrote:
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I may have a few spares in my stash if interested.
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Brian J. Carlson
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WILLIAM PARDIE
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Brian Carlson via groups.io" <prrk41361@...> Date: 7/31/20 7:43 AM (GMT-10:00) To: PRRPro@groups.io Subject: Re: [PRRPro] X29 questions Brian J. Carlson On Jul 31, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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rdgloco
Going back, at least, forty years. White metal marker lamps with mounting brackets were in the Walthers catalog. The marker lamps were removable, but the lamps and the brackets were also noticeably over-sized. Question: Has anyone built or have a Walthers Troop car kit. If so, were the brackets molded on or included as separate parts? Evan Leisey
On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Nelson Moyer
Custom Finishing offers marker bracket B-179, but these are not listed by Walthers today. They are the wrong type for passenger cars or express boxcars. I know of no marker light brackets that are prototypically correct for express boxcars car or passenger car application.
In response to the earlier question about troop cars, I built eight Walthers converted troop kitchen cars, and the marker brackets are neither molded on the ends or included as separate parts in the kit.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of rdgloco via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 12:20 AM To: PRRPro@groups.io Subject: Re: [PRRPro] X29 questions
Going back, at least, forty years. White metal marker lamps with mounting brackets were in the Walthers catalog. The marker lamps were removable, but the lamps and the brackets were also noticeably over-sized.
Question: Has anyone built or have a Walthers Troop car kit. If so, were the brackets molded on or included as separate parts? Evan Leisey
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Steve Sejda
Dave, all,
Red Caboose originally offered kit # 7006 Undec REA version of the X29. Super scarce if you can find one. Steve Sejda Monroeville, NJ
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Group, on the topic of 3rd party detail parts for express service X29's - I'm currently in the midst of assembling a rake of 11 RC REA X29's and have a question regarding possible substitutes for the additional extra-wide sill step to the left of the door. I'm a big fan of the photo-etched X29 stirrups from Yarmouth - both for looks and sturdiness - and have been substituting these parts on all of my corner sill steps. Unfortunately it looks like Yarmouth does not offer an equivalent part for the wider-set sill step near the door on the REA cars, unless I'm mistaken? Is anyone aware of an accurate 3rd party part to replace the delicate RC sill step at this location, or am I going to need to settle for being extra careful with my handling? Thanks,
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John Barry
Greg,
I passed your post to the designer of the parts. I've got a pair of the REA variants. I think his answer will depend on how much demand there is.
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Friday, September 18, 2020, 09:27:50 AM EDT, PRRPro@groups.io <digestnoreply@groups.io> wrote:
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