Changes Necessary When Running Portable


Bob - KA2TQV
 

I realize this is a dumb question from someone whose been licensed for 40 years, but I have rarely operated away from my home QTH. I’ll be about 350 miles from home, in a different grid and call sign district. When running digital on WSJT, what changes should I be making? Things I can think of:
- Change the WSJT CQ line to /P and change grid square?
- Change the AClog setup input screen to new lat/long?

Anything else? Will LoTW be OK? Thanks 

Bob, KA2TQV


Larry Banks
 

Hi Bob,
 
You certainly need to change your grid square in WSJT-X and ACLog, along with the lat/lon in ACLog.  You will also need a new location in TQSL. 
 
As for using “/p”, note that this will require a new certificate for TQSL, and that your QSO partners may or may not upload their log with the “/p”.  As the new grid square identifies where you are, you might not use the “/p” and save the confusion.  If you do use the “/p” you may want to upload your Qs to LoTW both ways.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ

 

Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 7:04
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Changes Necessary When Running Portable
 

I realize this is a dumb question from someone whose been licensed for 40 years, but I have rarely operated away from my home QTH. I’ll be about 350 miles from home, in a different grid and call sign district. When running digital on WSJT, what changes should I be making? Things I can think of:
- Change the WSJT CQ line to /P and change grid square?
- Change the AClog setup input screen to new lat/long?

Anything else? Will LoTW be OK? Thanks

Bob, KA2TQV


Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Bob,

I agree with Larry, its much easier to just create a location with the new grid square and sign your call without the /P or /M.  WSTJ  has some problems with what they consider not standard call signs.  I was running mobile one day and using KC3EF/M and was called by another station that was XXXX/M.  We just called and called each other since WSJT did not recognize the /M and would not sequence to the next exchange.  When I investigated this, I found that WSJT uses a hashing technique and /M is not one of the suffixes it will correctly hash.  

The other problem I found with getting new certificates with a /M or /P is that I could not automatically download from LoTW  and would have to manually edit the log to show the qsl received.  I think the problem is that the other certificates were a subset of my main certificate and I have not found how to log on to LoTW thru ACL and select the /M or /P contacts.  It always goes to the main certificate.

I have made contacts from about 200 grids either mobile or portable and this is what I have found.  

73
Dick - KC3EF


Bob - KA2TQV
 

Larry / Dick,

Thank you both. Makes sense.

Bob


Andrew K8AKC
 

I'll go ahead and give opposing opinions.

I use ACL and JTDX using /P and have no problems. Lotw has a cert for the /P call and ACL doesn't have any problems uploading to Lotw. I do have a different account for eqsl and that helps separate my home and portable contacts.



I will say I use a completely different computer for my portable ops and because of that, all I ever have to change is the grid and add the new "station" which is done by "Add".


Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Andrew,

I agree you can setup a location and upload to a /M or /P from ACL.  How do you download from that location?  I have not been able to successfully get ACL to download from LoTW either of my /M or /P contacts.  I think the problem with WSJT may only be for /M, which is does not seem to recognize.  I just gave up on eQSL since the locations stay for ever.  Not nearly as easy as LoTW;

73
Dick - KC3EF


Andrew K8AKC
 

On the top right it says "Own Call" - put in the call with the /P and it will download those QSOs.
You can copy the general settings from my screenshot.


Larry Banks
 

Hi Dick,
 
Did you get a new LoTW certificate for your /m or /p calls?  They are new calls, not the same as your KC3EF call.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 17:12
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Changes Necessary When Running Portable
 
Hi Andrew,

I agree you can setup a location and upload to a /M or /P from ACL.  How do you download from that location?  I have not been able to successfully get ACL to download from LoTW either of my /M or /P contacts.  I think the problem with WSJT may only be for /M, which is does not seem to recognize.  I just gave up on eQSL since the locations stay for ever.  Not nearly as easy as LoTW;

73
Dick - KC3EF


Mike Olbrisch
 

About 10 years ago I had a short discussion on the portable location situation with TPTB at E-QSL.  They seemed totally disinterested in finding a way to make portable operations work at all, much less making it easy.  They were actually pretty rude about it.  And I decided I was totally disinterested in using E-QSL for that reason alone.  Much of my activity over the past 15 years has been portable.

Same situation with Club-Log, although they were quite friendly about it.  They said theirs was a different purpose and portable operations didn’t fit in with the purpose.  Good enough.

 

Once you get it figured out, LoTW is easy for portable ops.  I do that all the time.

As for portable operations….. for the first time in the past 26 years I was off-grid for 9 days, and didn’t make a single ham radio contact.  Off-grid in a unique and beautiful area, and no radio operating at all, but our location was an off-road paradise.  Our camp was 5 miles from the ranger station, it took 1-hour in 4-wheel drive to do that 5-miles.  From the ranger station it was 34 miles to the nearest town.  All but the last 6 miles was in 4-wheel drive, and it was a 2-1/2 hour trip each way.  I never even unpacked the HF radio.  Every other day we would drive 45 minutes from camp to a hot-spot of the top of a high mesa so the wife could check in with her mother in Germany on the cell phone.  There were two AM-radio stations barely readable at night.

It would have been a great POTA opportunity.  I admit we were on a serious shake-down of our retirement gift to ourselves, the Expedition Trailer.  The 200-watt Solar system I designed was totally up to giving the 200 Ah battery bank a full charge even on the one rainy day.  Not sure how it will hold up when we add the 100-watt HF radio into the system.  But I left room to expand to 600-watts of Solar if needed. The rangers were shocked when they heard we had a trailer at Guale-1 campsite.  Then they saw the Jeep and trailer…..  O-K…   We stayed busy from sunrise to beyond sunset every day.

 

NO POTA THIS TRIP.  SOON!  I have a 44-foot fiberglass vertical for the trailer and a tuner for the base.  Logging will be in a small notebook -N3FJP AC-Log of course!

 

 

Vy73 – Mike – KD5KC

El Paso, Texas – DM61rt

 

 

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Rohrer
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 15:13 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Changes Necessary When Running Portable

 

Hi Andrew,

I agree you can setup a location and upload to a /M or /P from ACL.  How do you download from that location?  I have not been able to successfully get ACL to download from LoTW either of my /M or /P contacts.  I think the problem with WSJT may only be for /M, which is does not seem to recognize.  I just gave up on eQSL since the locations stay for ever.  Not nearly as easy as LoTW;

73
Dick - KC3EF


Wyndell - K5WJF
 

One problem I've seen is on the other end of this.  QRZ, eQSL etc often show the grid as an error when a ham activates a grid outside their normal qth grid.

 

 

73 de Wyndell K5WJF

 

 




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Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the information.  When I saw your screen shot it was a "duh" moment, why did I not know this.  Works just fine.   I guess I will go back to using /M and /P again.

73
Dick - KC3EF