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Re: LoTW Multiple Calls

Larry Banks
 

Hi Tim,
 
Aare you only uploaded NEW Qs (ones not yet uploaded) each time you do an upload?

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ

 

Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 13:42
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] LoTW Multiple Calls
 
Thanks for the reply. The fix involved browsing (TQSL Software Path) to a folder on my desktop that contains my TQSL certificates rather than the registry path. Next, I entered each of my prior calls into the "Own Call" field and clicked "All Data" to update all records for each call. Everything seems good now and I was able to update and confirm many QSL's from the 26,300 QSO's that reside in LoTW.

My last issue involves advice regarding how to clear the message below. I realize this is not an AC Log message. However, I'm hopeful that someone in the user group has experience in clearing this message from TQSL. I receive this every time I do an upload to LoTW. What are the steps to resolve this within TQSL?



Re: LoTW Multiple Calls

tim.eklin@...
 

Thanks for the reply. The fix involved browsing (TQSL Software Path) to a folder on my desktop that contains my TQSL certificates rather than the registry path. Next, I entered each of my prior calls into the "Own Call" field and clicked "All Data" to update all records for each call. Everything seems good now and I was able to update and confirm many QSL's from the 26,300 QSO's that reside in LoTW.

My last issue involves advice regarding how to clear the message below. I realize this is not an AC Log message. However, I'm hopeful that someone in the user group has experience in clearing this message from TQSL. I receive this every time I do an upload to LoTW. What are the steps to resolve this within TQSL?



RTTY RU Rules clarification

Larry Banks
 

Hi all,
 
I promised that I would update the list if I received any clarification from the ARRL-Contesting forum.  For those of you who are on that forum, you have been reading some interesting “discussion.”  At this point it still appears that the log checking software does not implement the rules as stated.  Here is a private message I received:
hi Larry - I'm rattling cages at the ARRL to pull that overview. They do see the problem and no rule change was intended. I'm waiting for positive confirmation that the 2020 logs will get the same treatment as 2019.
So for now, ignore that new language and just operate this weekend as you always have.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ

 
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 12:07
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7
 
Hmmmm..  Unfortunately  I used logic when I read the rules. Your argument is sound.  I suspect this may be a short-lived new rule as it makes little sense.  One might as well not operate on the second day.
 
This discussion needs to move to the ARRL-contesting forum.  If I get any clarification, I will report back.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ

 
From: AI3KS
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 11:16
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7
 
Larry,

I am not so sure.

The way I read it, if you start the contest, operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 1), operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 2), then the remainder of the time, actually operating or not, counts as operating time. That would include your 6 hour sleep period. Your allowed "24 hours of operating time" would only be 25 hours of clock time.

Steve, AI3KS

On 20/01/01 11:10, Larry Banks via Groups.Io wrote:
It appears to be very straightforward to me.  In calculating your 24 hours of "score-pertinent-on-time" you are only allowed two breaks of at least 30 minutes each.  More than two breaks don't count as breaks and do count toward your maximum of 24 hours of on-time.

Another way to look at it: if you take off six hours to sleep, you need not worry as your total time with no other breaks would not exceed 24 hours.

Personally, as I seldom spend more that 15 hours in any one contest, this will not effect me.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- From: Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 10:46
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.



Re: reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

Scott Davis
 

Hi Wilbur,

Thanks for your follow up.  I am sorry that you are still having trouble.  Please do this:

-  Click File > Show File Locations and note the location of your settings file.

-  Close AC Log.

-  Start Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder.

-  Delete ColorAndFontSettings.xml.

That will ensure a reset to default.

Enjoy!



73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: Wilbur Doolittle <johndeere75549011@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2020 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

Did the reset something lurking in the setup will not reset all windows not sure 

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 6:08 AM Scott Davis via Groups.Io <SNKDavis=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Wilbur,

Thanks for your e-mail.  To reset all your fonts to default, click the Reset to Default button at the lower left of the Settings > Appearance > Colors and fonts menu tree.  Close AC Log normally to save your settings.

Enjoy!


73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: Wilbur Doolittle <johndeere75549011@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 5:38 pm
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

I open aclog and have to go into Appearance and reset my time and bearing fonts every time I open the software also the coner where current time if blank is twice the size as the rest of the current fonts is there a way to start over am running 100%
if I turn on dxspotting the software adjusts and all is fine turn if off and it goes back to the same process


Re: reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

Wilbur Doolittle
 

Did the reset something lurking in the setup will not reset all windows not sure 


On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 6:08 AM Scott Davis via Groups.Io <SNKDavis=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Wilbur,

Thanks for your e-mail.  To reset all your fonts to default, click the Reset to Default button at the lower left of the Settings > Appearance > Colors and fonts menu tree.  Close AC Log normally to save your settings.

Enjoy!


73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: Wilbur Doolittle <johndeere75549011@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 5:38 pm
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

I open aclog and have to go into Appearance and reset my time and bearing fonts every time I open the software also the coner where current time if blank is twice the size as the rest of the current fonts is there a way to start over am running 100%
if I turn on dxspotting the software adjusts and all is fine turn if off and it goes back to the same process


Re: LoTW Multiple Calls

Scott Davis
 

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your e-mail.  I'm sorry that you have run into trouble.  Those error messages are being returned from ARRL's TQSL software, not AC Log.  Regarding the message about QSOs already having been signed, this FAQ will help clarify that (though probably is not the remedy for your set of circumstances):


http://www.n3fjp.com/faq.html#q71

I don't have any experience with more than one call myself, but Mike, KD5KC has written two documents on the topic.  You'll find them about the third paragraph down here:


Those documents are a good place to start.  Also, when uploading, make sure you have the correct TQSL cert selected.  When downloading, make sure you have the correct call in the Own Call field.  Hopefully others will have additional insights for you as well.

Enjoy!


73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: tim.eklin <tim.eklin@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2020 6:07 am
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] LoTW Multiple Calls

It appears that LoTW is only updating QSO's for my must recent call sign. I've spent hours trying to resolve this with no joy. I have valid certificates for all four of my calls N8VOD, KG8CL, AA8UH, and W8JJ. I'm using the latest TQSL software and I've read everything that I can find to try and figure this out. LoTW and AC Log works perfectly back to 11-3-1996 which is the day that I received W8JJ. However,  all of the legacy contacts using the previous calls going back to 1992 will not update and the rows of text remains black S=N R-N (not green or blue). All of the QSO's going back to 1992 are in LoTW. However, I can't seem to make AC Log and LoTW communicate for these legacy contacts with regards to confirmations. 

When I click "All Contacts Not Uploaded" I get a message telling me QSO date is not within range on your Callsign Certificate on line 33 (this is not true as it is within the date range and happens to be my first HF contact in 1992). I click "Ignore" and get another error message stating that 179 QSO's have already been signed and I can't seem to break loose of this error either. I've Re-loaded QSO's and selected cancel many times. 

In sum, how do I get confirmations interfaced with LoTW for my three prior callsigns and get rid of these errors? 

73 Tim W8JJ


Re: New Section for Sweepstakes

Scott Davis
 

Hi John,

Thanks for the heads up.  Ugh!!!  :)

Well, I was caught up for a few hours anyway.

Seriously, I appreciate the good information.

Thanks!


73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: John K9IJ <k9ij@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 7:22 pm
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] New Section for Sweepstakes


Just when you thought it was safe to release new software, RAC Canada
throws a monkey wrench
in the works. Canada has added a new section, PEI Prince Edward Island.

Sorry Scott.


73
John - K9IJ

--
No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !

Webmaster, Network Admin, Janitor





Re: reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

Scott Davis
 

Hi Wilbur,

Thanks for your e-mail.  To reset all your fonts to default, click the Reset to Default button at the lower left of the Settings > Appearance > Colors and fonts menu tree.  Close AC Log normally to save your settings.

Enjoy!


73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: Wilbur Doolittle <johndeere75549011@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 5:38 pm
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

I open aclog and have to go into Appearance and reset my time and bearing fonts every time I open the software also the coner where current time if blank is twice the size as the rest of the current fonts is there a way to start over am running 100%
if I turn on dxspotting the software adjusts and all is fine turn if off and it goes back to the same process


LoTW Multiple Calls

tim.eklin@...
 

It appears that LoTW is only updating QSO's for my must recent call sign. I've spent hours trying to resolve this with no joy. I have valid certificates for all four of my calls N8VOD, KG8CL, AA8UH, and W8JJ. I'm using the latest TQSL software and I've read everything that I can find to try and figure this out. LoTW and AC Log works perfectly back to 11-3-1996 which is the day that I received W8JJ. However,  all of the legacy contacts using the previous calls going back to 1992 will not update and the rows of text remains black S=N R-N (not green or blue). All of the QSO's going back to 1992 are in LoTW. However, I can't seem to make AC Log and LoTW communicate for these legacy contacts with regards to confirmations. 

When I click "All Contacts Not Uploaded" I get a message telling me QSO date is not within range on your Callsign Certificate on line 33 (this is not true as it is within the date range and happens to be my first HF contact in 1992). I click "Ignore" and get another error message stating that 179 QSO's have already been signed and I can't seem to break loose of this error either. I've Re-loaded QSO's and selected cancel many times. 

In sum, how do I get confirmations interfaced with LoTW for my three prior callsigns and get rid of these errors? 

73 Tim W8JJ


New Section for Sweepstakes

John K9IJ
 

Just when you thought it was safe to release new software, RAC Canada throws a monkey wrench
in the works. Canada has added a new section, PEI Prince Edward Island.

Sorry Scott.

http://www.arrl.org/news/view/radio-amateurs-of-canada-announces-a-new-section

73
John - K9IJ

--
No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !

k9ij@pt40.net
Webmaster, Network Admin, Janitor


reset all menus and or rest all fonts delete setup or ini file of some type to make the program put all fonts and menus back in place and open

Wilbur Doolittle
 

I open aclog and have to go into Appearance and reset my time and bearing fonts every time I open the software also the coner where current time if blank is twice the size as the rest of the current fonts is there a way to start over am running 100%
if I turn on dxspotting the software adjusts and all is fine turn if off and it goes back to the same process


New Versions of All Contest Software Now Available!

Scott Davis
 


Hi All,

Kimberly and I hope that you had a very Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and that you are enjoying a wonderful holiday season!  We have exciting announcements detailing multiple new N3FJP Software features to kick off 2020 and the new decade ahead!


New Versions of All the Contest Software are Now Available!

Upgrades to all the contest software include:

- Filtering of DX spotted digital mode frequencies can be blocked or enabled independently from CW / SSB. Click More Filtering on the DX Spotting set up form to configure.

- Added Tab Sends Message (TSM) option for voice F keys (already existed for CW). Press Ctrl + Shift + G to enable.

- Use Shift (or Ctrl + Shift) + Up / Down, Left / Right arrows to tune your rig's frequency with rig interface enabled (explanation below).

- State QSO Party Programs - State / Province / Country (SPC) field will also accept the county.

- Added Yaesu - Newer 2 option on the rig interface form's rig list to support Yaesu 991, Yaesu 101 D and Yaesu 101 MP.

- User added DX Spotting telnet sites are saved and available for selection in the drop down list on the DX Spotting set up form.

- Added optional filtering for Advanced and Technician frequency privileges (in addition to the already existing General filtering).

- Any unworked call in the Super Check Partial (SCP) list that exactly matches what you've typed in the Call field is highlighted in green (with Super Check Partial enabled).

- Corrected form display anomalies on 4K monitors.

- Passive Mode Option for FTP Web Upload (Settings > Web Upload Status Settings).


By the way, most of these features are already available in Amateur Contact Log 6.6 as well, which I released in November, 2019.  http://www.n3fjp.com/news/news2019-11-13.html

As always, upgrades are free to registered users!  Just uninstall your previous version from Windows Control Panel, install the latest from the program's download link and you will be all set!


More Details on Keyboard Fine Tuning:

I am particularly excited about our new keyboard fine tuning feature!  I've really been enjoying using the various contest software options to quickly jump to the next spotted station, including Ctrl + Shift + Z, jump to the next DX Spot on entry, clicking on a DX spot, etc., but occasionally, the spotted frequency is slightly off.  Up until now, this has required a reach for the VFO, which costs precious contest seconds and necessitates repetitive physical readjustment, as well as having to lift our hands from the keyboard.  I wanted the ability to tune in the station faster, without having to reach for the rig, so I've coded the software to do just that!  Here are the keyboard commands (with rig interface enabled):

SSB:
Ctrl + Left / Right (large jump): +-500 Hz
Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right (medium jump): +-150 Hz
Ctrl + Up / Down (small jump): +-50 Hz
Ctrl + Shift + Up / Down (tiny jump): +-10 Hz

CW / DIG:
Ctrl + Left / Right (large jump): +-250 Hz
Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right (medium jump): +-80 Hz
Ctrl + Up / Down (small jump): +-20 Hz
Ctrl + Shift + Up / Down (tiny jump): +-5 Hz

That may seem complicated, but don't focus on the actual values. When you try it and actually tune in stations on the air with your keyboard, it will quickly become intuitive. I tested this feature extensively during 2019 CQ WW and November Sweepstakes.  In most cases, I found simply holding Ctrl and using the Up / Down arrow keys was sufficient to quickly tune in a station that was slightly off from his spotted frequency.


More Details on State QSO Party SPC Functionality:

Running a frequency on CW, when you are copying letter by letter and you don't know if a state or county is coming, until now, we've had to guess whether to start in the State / Province / Country (SPC) field or county field and then adjust as the value becomes clear.  With the latest versions of the State QSO Party software, when a county value (either full county name or abbreviation) is typed in the SPC field, the software will automatically move the county over to the county field when we press enter.


More Details on Green Highlighted Super Check Partial Values:

The Super Check Partial (SCP) list of active contesters is a great aid in helping to determine if you've copied the call correctly.  In most cases, as you type a few characters of the call, the list quickly becomes short enough to easily scan and find the call, but occasionally, very short calls are a bit harder to find with a rapid glance.  During CQ WW, short calls like D4C prompted me to find a way to accent exact matches to the Call field in the SCP list, which are now highlighted green.


ARRL RTTY Prep!

One of the biggest digital contests of the year, ARRL RTTY Roundup is this weekend!  I've had the latest version of ARRL RTTY Roundup contest log, version 3.7, on the web site since early December.  If you are running an earlier version, please go ahead and upgrade.

If you haven't already, please make sure you have downloaded the latest version of your favorite digital software, the latest version of my ARRL RTTY contest software and that you have everything configured and interfaced properly.  Once set up correctly, you will only need log the station in the digital software and it will log automatically in my contest software!

Remember, all my contest software is designed with real time logging in mind and points are calculated on entry.  Single fields, such as the SPC field, are used to capture multiple exchange elements, such as the state or serial number in ARRL RTTY.  My ARRL RTTY software exports in ADIF fine, but if you attempt to import records logged from another program into my ARRL RTTY software via ADIF, depending on the program, there is a good chance the data will not be assigned properly.  Just make sure that you interface your digital program with my ARRL RTTY software during the event, so that the QSOs are actually logged in real time via my software and you will be are all set! 


Digital software that interfaces directly with mine includes:







ARRL RTTY Logging Software:



Digital Setup Instructions:




School Club Roundup Encouragement!

Does your local school system have an Amateur Radio club?  Might creating a new school club or helping to support an existing one be your way to give back to the hobby?

School Club Roundup is a week long event that runs twice a year and is a super outreach to young people.  Of course we hope the kids will become licensed hams, but even if they don't, presenting the amazing hobby of Amateur Radio to the kids in a positive way still matters to all of us, a lot!  These young people may one day be neighbors of hams, sit on HOA committees or even move on to government public service positions.  Licensed or not, the positive view of Amateur Radio that we have the opportunity to instill in them now will matter!

If you would like to set up an Amateur Radio club for your school, there is an e-mail support group here:  https://groups.io/g/SCR

More details on the School Club Round event are here:  http://www.arrl.org/school-club-roundup

My free School Club Roundup software is here:  http://www.n3fjp.com/schoolclubru.html

And of course, be sure to work as many schools as you can during the SCR weeks!


Please Submit Your Contest Logs!

Many folks have told me over the years that they love playing in contests, but for a variety of reasons never actually submit their logs to the contest sponsors. Submitting your logs to ARRL and CQ has never been easier and literally takes about two minutes. It's of great benefit to the contest sponsors to get a more accurate assessment of participation. Submitting your log helps me too, as some sponsors track usage of contest logging software. Besides, even if you place at the bottom, it is fun to see where you wind up and it might help you set a goal for next time. You may find out your are doing better than you think!


And in response to the questions we always receive when we neglect to include the following in our e-mail announcements...    


Package Upgrade Information...   

If you have registered one or more individual programs and would like to upgrade to N3FJP's Software Package for full use of all our Amateur Radio software, we would be glad to apply the amount that you have registered so far as a credit towards that purchase. Please send us an e-mail directly and we'll let you know your balance.   

N3FJP's Software Package includes more than one hundred programs for contesting, net management and general logging Amateur Radio applications. In addition to full use of all these programs, registered package customers are also entitled to receive free passwords for any new software that we add to the package and free upgrades to existing programs. There are no annual / maintenance costs of any kind.  Simply register once and you are set with N3FJP Software for life!  You'll find all the details on the Register Now page here: 



Donations are Gratefully Accepted! 

And in response to the often asked question for which Kimberly and I are very grateful...  

"I know your upgrades are free, but I also realize how much time and effort coding these enhancements and new programs take and that your pricing policy doesn't fully reflect that. Can I send you something to show my appreciation for your continued efforts?"   

Yes, thanks so much, your continued support in any amount is very welcome and deeply appreciated! You can use this page:  


or send your contribution by mail, payable to Affirmatech Inc., to:  

G. Scott Davis
118 Glenwood Road
Bel Air, MD 21014-5533  

Thank you so much for your continued support!  


Thanks!  

As always, thanks for your kind words, support, linking to our web site and spreading the word about our software. Kimberly and I really appreciate it!  


73, Scott
N3FJP
 
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
 
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...

 
p.s. If you want to unsubscribe or need to change your e-mail address for future announcements.... 

If you wish to be removed from this e-mail list, or you would like to change your e-mail, please see this FAQ here for all the steps:

http://www.n3fjp.com/faq.html#q61

73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Frank MacKenzie-Lamb
 

Thank you Scott…..this goes to show how great your software is….

 

Guys I’m at NG1I@...

 

HNY Kim and Scott

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Davis via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 6:24 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

 

Hi Frank and Larry,

 

When you click Reply, replace the To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io,  field in your e-mail client with the e-mail(s) of the person(s) you wish to e-mail directly.

 

Enjoy!

 

73, Scott

N3FJP

 

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

 

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank MacKenzie-Lamb <maclamb@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 5:40 am
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

My question as well…….

 

Frank

NG1I

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Ross
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 2:06 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

 

Scott,

 

How does one respond individually instead of the whole group getting this response.  

 

Cheers,

 

Marv Ross

W0PSY

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io [mailto:N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io] On Behalf Of AI3KS
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 09:16
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

 

Larry,

I am not so sure.

The way I read it, if you start the contest, operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 1), operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 2), then the remainder of the time, actually operating or not, counts as operating time. That would include your 6 hour sleep period. Your allowed "24 hours of operating time" would only be 25 hours of clock time.

Steve, AI3KS

On 20/01/01 11:10, Larry Banks via Groups.Io wrote:

It appears to be very straightforward to me.  In calculating your 24 hours of "score-pertinent-on-time" you are only allowed two breaks of at least 30 minutes each.  More than two breaks don't count as breaks and do count toward your maximum of 24 hours of on-time.

Another way to look at it: if you take off six hours to sleep, you need not worry as your total time with no other breaks would not exceed 24 hours.

Personally, as I seldom spend more that 15 hours in any one contest, this will not effect me.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- From: Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 10:46
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.

 


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Scott Davis
 

Hi Frank and Larry,

When you click Reply, replace the To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io,  field in your e-mail client with the e-mail(s) of the person(s) you wish to e-mail directly.

Enjoy!

73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank MacKenzie-Lamb <maclamb@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 5:40 am
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

My question as well…….
 
Frank
NG1I
 
From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Ross
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 2:06 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7
 
Scott,
 
How does one respond individually instead of the whole group getting this response.  
 
Cheers,
 
Marv Ross
W0PSY
 
From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io [mailto:N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io] On Behalf Of AI3KS
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 09:16
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7
 
Larry,

I am not so sure.

The way I read it, if you start the contest, operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 1), operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 2), then the remainder of the time, actually operating or not, counts as operating time. That would include your 6 hour sleep period. Your allowed "24 hours of operating time" would only be 25 hours of clock time.

Steve, AI3KS
On 20/01/01 11:10, Larry Banks via Groups.Io wrote:
It appears to be very straightforward to me.  In calculating your 24 hours of "score-pertinent-on-time" you are only allowed two breaks of at least 30 minutes each.  More than two breaks don't count as breaks and do count toward your maximum of 24 hours of on-time.

Another way to look at it: if you take off six hours to sleep, you need not worry as your total time with no other breaks would not exceed 24 hours.

Personally, as I seldom spend more that 15 hours in any one contest, this will not effect me.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- From: Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 10:46
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.
 


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Frank MacKenzie-Lamb
 

My question as well…….

 

Frank

NG1I

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Ross
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 2:06 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

 

Scott,

 

How does one respond individually instead of the whole group getting this response.  

 

Cheers,

 

Marv Ross

W0PSY

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io [mailto:N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io] On Behalf Of AI3KS
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 09:16
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

 

Larry,

I am not so sure.

The way I read it, if you start the contest, operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 1), operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 2), then the remainder of the time, actually operating or not, counts as operating time. That would include your 6 hour sleep period. Your allowed "24 hours of operating time" would only be 25 hours of clock time.

Steve, AI3KS

On 20/01/01 11:10, Larry Banks via Groups.Io wrote:

It appears to be very straightforward to me.  In calculating your 24 hours of "score-pertinent-on-time" you are only allowed two breaks of at least 30 minutes each.  More than two breaks don't count as breaks and do count toward your maximum of 24 hours of on-time.

Another way to look at it: if you take off six hours to sleep, you need not worry as your total time with no other breaks would not exceed 24 hours.

Personally, as I seldom spend more that 15 hours in any one contest, this will not effect me.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- From: Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 10:46
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.

 


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Frank MacKenzie-Lamb
 

Yes you are quite correct Jim.....I think the ARRL won't support it...GL HNY

-----Original Message-----
From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf
Of Jim Shorney
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:58 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7


And which RTTY would that be, FSK, AFSK, 45, 50, 75N, 75W, ....? But
seriously, there is nothing stopping anyone (or any group) from creating a
new RTTY only contest.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:51:08 -0500
"Frank MacKenzie-Lamb" <maclamb@charter.net> wrote:

It's completely wrong to have the other digital modes in a RTTY contest.
It's not right

-----Original Message-----
From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On
Behalf Of Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 10:46 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module
v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does
anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems
to be something new that is a little confusing.


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Danny Bush
 

 
Jim,
 
I think his point was that the ARRL RTTY Roundup was just that, a RTTY only contest since its inception many years ago. Personally, what others do is up to them. This could turn in to a similar debate such as CW versus everything else, removing CW from the exams, etc. 
 
Again, what others do and how they operate is up to them...but I personally operate just about every mode there is. For now lets let the Original OP have his thread as he is trying to help others get ready for Saturday. Lets all remember that these threads need to stay on track where the Original OP's put them and save our personal ideas, agendas and opinions for our own posts. 
 
Happy New Year All...
 
Danny NF4J

 
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 at 11:58 AM
From: "Jim Shorney" <jshorney@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

And which RTTY would that be, FSK, AFSK, 45, 50, 75N, 75W, ....? But seriously, there is nothing stopping anyone (or any group) from creating a new RTTY only contest.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:51:08 -0500
"Frank MacKenzie-Lamb" <maclamb@...> wrote:

> It's completely wrong to have the other digital modes in a RTTY contest. It's not right
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 10:46 AM
> To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7
>
> Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.
>



 


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Marvin Ross
 

Scott,

 

How does one respond individually instead of the whole group getting this response.  

 

Cheers,

 

Marv Ross

W0PSY

 

From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io [mailto:N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io] On Behalf Of AI3KS
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 09:16
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

 

Larry,

I am not so sure.

The way I read it, if you start the contest, operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 1), operate for an hour, take a 30 minute break (break 2), then the remainder of the time, actually operating or not, counts as operating time. That would include your 6 hour sleep period. Your allowed "24 hours of operating time" would only be 25 hours of clock time.

Steve, AI3KS

On 20/01/01 11:10, Larry Banks via Groups.Io wrote:

It appears to be very straightforward to me.  In calculating your 24 hours of "score-pertinent-on-time" you are only allowed two breaks of at least 30 minutes each.  More than two breaks don't count as breaks and do count toward your maximum of 24 hours of on-time.

Another way to look at it: if you take off six hours to sleep, you need not worry as your total time with no other breaks would not exceed 24 hours.

Personally, as I seldom spend more that 15 hours in any one contest, this will not effect me.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- From: Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 10:46
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.

 


Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Scott Davis
 

Hi Guys,

This topic has morphed into one that is much more suited for ARRL's contest forum.  


Please feel free to continue the mode eligibility and break discussion topics there.  They are SK here.

Ed, thanks so much for coordinating the pre contest testing this morning and the great reports!

Enjoy!


73, Scott
N3FJP

Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.

1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Shorney <jshorney@...>
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jan 1, 2020 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7


And which RTTY would that be, FSK, AFSK, 45, 50, 75N, 75W, ....? But seriously, there is nothing stopping anyone (or any group) from creating a new RTTY only contest.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:51:08 -0500
"Frank MacKenzie-Lamb" <maclamb@...> wrote:

> It's completely wrong to have the other digital modes in a RTTY contest.  It's not right
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 10:46 AM
> To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7
>
> Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.
>





Re: Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Jim Shorney
 

And which RTTY would that be, FSK, AFSK, 45, 50, 75N, 75W, ....? But seriously, there is nothing stopping anyone (or any group) from creating a new RTTY only contest.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 12:51:08 -0500
"Frank MacKenzie-Lamb" <maclamb@charter.net> wrote:

It's completely wrong to have the other digital modes in a RTTY contest. It's not right

-----Original Message-----
From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Fred K2DFC via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 10:46 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Second FT8 test of the RTTY RU module v3.7

Getting ready for the RTTY contest. I will actually operate RTTY. Does anyone understand the two break rule listed in the contest rules? This seems to be something new that is a little confusing.

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