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RTTY Dualing problem

David G3YYD
 

I am using version 1.0.8184.0. Contest is set for BARTG March HF contest. I am CQing using Dualing on two bands.

 

I worked a QSO on EW1 and then turn dualing back on with ctrl-B not a problem. I work a QSO on EW2 and it takes two ctrl-B to turn dualing back on. If I remember correctly I had this problem when testing last year and it was fixed for the contest?

 

A useful enhancement would be to have a couple of macros DUALOn and DUALOFF, they should not “stack” so doing the same thing twice does not require the opposite twice. This would then save having to look at screen to find current state of Dualing while using ctrl-B. I could put it into my function keys to control dualing saving typing effort and reduce operator fatigue.

 

73 David G3YYD aka M7T

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

WA8Y Steven
 

Really great that is works but when I hit F5 it only sends the call sign.
Took a look (Right clicked on F5 in Run mode), {EXCH} was missing (after !).
Added and Saved F5 , ! {EXCH} but still only sends the call sign?

What am I missing?

New contest this weekend: EURASIA Championship - CW/SSB modes, 9 hours (but only 6 can be used for making Qs).

NA3M Nick
 

Hello,

 

  If you are interested in experimental EURASIA Championship contest (0300Z-1200Z, Feb 29) - make sure you have Update 1.0.8173 (Feb 21, 2020) or newer installed.

The rules for the contest are here: http://www.eurasia-contest.com/

 

Some notes:

 

1). CallHistory file for this contest should be available soon at https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/callhistory/

 

2). When loading the contest log the robot will check:

 

The presence of the GRID-LOCATOR line in the header of the Cabrillo file and the full QTH locator of the participant in it (this is done by the logger automatically – just make sure it is correct).

 

The presence of OFFTIME lines in the header of the report (use Views/Off Times menu in the logger).

- if there are none, then the robot, when calculating the result, will count six hours from the first QSO, points will not be considered for the remaining QSOs;

- if there are OFFTIME lines in the header, but they are not filled, then this is considered as the absence of these lines;

- the number of filled OFFTIME lines should not be more than 3, because according to the rules there can be no more than 3 breaks.

- points will not be counted for QSO(s) in the time interval indicated in the OFFTIME lines.

 

3). If you find any bugs during the contest let us know here in the reflector  – there is a good chance for a quick fix.

 

Nick NA3M

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

ART W2NRA
 

Hi Mike, VE9AA

I know N1MM Logger+ could and use it all the time, A LOT!  But I assumed it didn't work with Morserunner running.  I figured, since no radio is needed, you couldn.t fine tune the Morserunner software that way.

Thanks!  And thanks for the 19 QSOs.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 12:49 PM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:

Hi Art !

OK on your comment to me - thanks for that.

On yours (below_)  I wonder if you knew you could 'tune' in stations with the up/dn arrows ? (to change pitch of those calling you)

I have a hard time with stations calling at 100-200Hz (Guess all that Deep Purple, AC/DC and MotorHead I listened to with the volume set to "11" in the 1970s/80's is finally catching up with me)

73

Mike VE9AA
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:44 AM, ART W2NRA wrote:
I noticed the "CW Pitch" is at 450Hz.  Since it cannot be changed I was wonder what are the advantages of such a low CW Pitch?
 
73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

 
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Mike VE9AA



Re: how for the first time? New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Giuseppe Giunta
 

ahahahaha ciao Mike,

Of course I meant curious, hi hi hi 
yes, I knew about UP & Down, but I don't use it very much because it is a very 
long process and often, for the rush, I don't find the Up & Down keys on the keyboard
hi hi hi I will continue to use stand-alone MR :-)
73's Giu IT9VDQ - one of IB9T
Il 27/02/2020 18:56, VE9AA - Mike ha scritto:

Ciao Giu my friend.  Please don't be angry at us, hi hi ! ;-)

Did you know you can tune stations in with the up and down arrows on your keyboard ?

That's what I have to do.  Seems I don't hear callers around 100Hz anymore. (too much loud Rock music back in the old days, hi )

73 Mike VE9AA
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:44 PM, Giuseppe Giunta wrote:
the first one, it's because of the very low side-tone ... it will be because of the age, I'm 63 and about 45 years of CW listening  with headphones... I'll be a little deaf, but the my sidetone is about 750/800 Hz.

 
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Mike VE9AA

Re: how for the first time? New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

VE9AA - Mike
 

Ciao Giu my friend.  Please don't be angry at us, hi hi ! ;-)

Did you know you can tune stations in with the up and down arrows on your keyboard ?

That's what I have to do.  Seems I don't hear callers around 100Hz anymore. (too much loud Rock music back in the old days, hi )

73 Mike VE9AA

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 01:44 PM, Giuseppe Giunta wrote:
the first one, it's because of the very low side-tone ... it will be because of the age, I'm 63 and about 45 years of CW listening  with headphones... I'll be a little deaf, but the my sidetone is about 750/800 Hz.

 
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Mike VE9AA

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

VE9AA - Mike
 

Hi Art !

OK on your comment to me - thanks for that.

On yours (below_)  I wonder if you knew you could 'tune' in stations with the up/dn arrows ? (to change pitch of those calling you)

I have a hard time with stations calling at 100-200Hz (Guess all that Deep Purple, AC/DC and MotorHead I listened to with the volume set to "11" in the 1970s/80's is finally catching up with me)

73

Mike VE9AA

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:44 AM, ART W2NRA wrote:
I noticed the "CW Pitch" is at 450Hz.  Since it cannot be changed I was wonder what are the advantages of such a low CW Pitch?
 
73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

 
--
Mike VE9AA

Re: how for the first time? New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Giuseppe Giunta
 

Ciao Pete and all,

and thanks for the answer ... I apologize for my bad English ... my friend Peter, PA4O, had already sent me an answer with the necessary settings ... ok, I tried MR inside N1MM and I didn't like it for two reasons:

the first one, it's because of the very low side-tone ... it will be because of the age, I'm 63 and about 45 years of CW listening  with headphones... I'll be a little deaf, but the my sidetone is about 750/800 Hz.

the second is that there is no possibility to change the "TU IT9VDQ" setting ... it is too long ... I use "TU" and that's it, it saves a lot of time ... Well, I will continue to have fun with stand-alone Morse Runner :-) I apologize again for my English, 73's.

Giù, IT9VDQ

Il 27/02/2020 18:13, Pete Smith ha scritto:

Hi Giu - I assume you meant "curious" rather than angry.  In any case, the information you need is at <https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/setup/the-configurer/#other-tab>

BTW, I agree wholeheartedly with what Mike said - it's a very good thing, even if it never evolves beyond where it is now.  That said, if I could have one more feature it would be notification when you log someone's call incorrectly.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 2/27/2020 11:07 AM, Giuseppe Giunta wrote:

Ciao Guys,

you have made me very angry with your emails on MR and N1MM ... I have always used Morse Runner as a stand alone and never through N1MM and it has always been great fun ... A stupid question: I always have N1MM updated to latest version; can you tell me how to use it with Morse Runner inside? Where can I find online help?

Thanks, Giù IT9VDQ :-)

Il 27/02/2020 16:55, ART W2NRA via Groups.Io ha scritto:
HI Mike,

The "respond w/o calling CQ" sort-ta works once you get a pileup going, especially if you advance the Activity.

The "partial calls" does work.  I've entered partial calls with 2 or 3 characters.  It does work better if from the front instead of the back, i.e. W2 vs NRA.

"shorten my CQ or TU msg's" is not an option.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:

Shame, I didn't know about 9a5k.  Like Pete, I'd like a way to get the pileup to respond w/o calling CQ, or to get partial calls to reply (as in real life) or to shorten my CQ or TU msg's...such is life.

That being said, I really appreciate having this version available to us, and I love the WPX module (makes me work for the Q's a little more, hi)

Thank you Steve.

Mike VE9AA

Re: how for the first time? New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Pete Smith
 

Hi Giu - I assume you meant "curious" rather than angry.  In any case, the information you need is at <https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/setup/the-configurer/#other-tab>

BTW, I agree wholeheartedly with what Mike said - it's a very good thing, even if it never evolves beyond where it is now.  That said, if I could have one more feature it would be notification when you log someone's call incorrectly.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network 
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now 
spotting RTTY activity worldwide. 
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.
On 2/27/2020 11:07 AM, Giuseppe Giunta wrote:

Ciao Guys,

you have made me very angry with your emails on MR and N1MM ... I have always used Morse Runner as a stand alone and never through N1MM and it has always been great fun ... A stupid question: I always have N1MM updated to latest version; can you tell me how to use it with Morse Runner inside? Where can I find online help?

Thanks, Giù IT9VDQ :-)

Il 27/02/2020 16:55, ART W2NRA via Groups.Io ha scritto:
HI Mike,

The "respond w/o calling CQ" sort-ta works once you get a pileup going, especially if you advance the Activity.

The "partial calls" does work.  I've entered partial calls with 2 or 3 characters.  It does work better if from the front instead of the back, i.e. W2 vs NRA.

"shorten my CQ or TU msg's" is not an option.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:

Shame, I didn't know about 9a5k.  Like Pete, I'd like a way to get the pileup to respond w/o calling CQ, or to get partial calls to reply (as in real life) or to shorten my CQ or TU msg's...such is life.

That being said, I really appreciate having this version available to us, and I love the WPX module (makes me work for the Q's a little more, hi)

Thank you Steve.

Mike VE9AA

Re: how for the first time? New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Giuseppe Giunta
 

Ciao Guys,

you have made me very angry with your emails on MR and N1MM ... I have always used Morse Runner as a stand alone and never through N1MM and it has always been great fun ... A stupid question: I always have N1MM updated to latest version; can you tell me how to use it with Morse Runner inside? Where can I find online help?

Thanks, Giù IT9VDQ :-)

Il 27/02/2020 16:55, ART W2NRA via Groups.Io ha scritto:
HI Mike,

The "respond w/o calling CQ" sort-ta works once you get a pileup going, especially if you advance the Activity.

The "partial calls" does work.  I've entered partial calls with 2 or 3 characters.  It does work better if from the front instead of the back, i.e. W2 vs NRA.

"shorten my CQ or TU msg's" is not an option.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:

Shame, I didn't know about 9a5k.  Like Pete, I'd like a way to get the pileup to respond w/o calling CQ, or to get partial calls to reply (as in real life) or to shorten my CQ or TU msg's...such is life.

That being said, I really appreciate having this version available to us, and I love the WPX module (makes me work for the Q's a little more, hi)

Thank you Steve.

Mike VE9AA

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Mirko �ibilja
 

Ditto, and here Esc key works to stop my transmitting...

73, Mirko, S57AD

V V čet., 27. feb. 2020 ob 16:55 je oseba ART W2NRA via Groups.Io <w2nra=me.com@groups.io> napisala:

HI Mike,

The "respond w/o calling CQ" sort-ta works once you get a pileup going, especially if you advance the Activity.

The "partial calls" does work.  I've entered partial calls with 2 or 3 characters.  It does work better if from the front instead of the back, i.e. W2 vs NRA.

"shorten my CQ or TU msg's" is not an option.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:

Shame, I didn't know about 9a5k.  Like Pete, I'd like a way to get the pileup to respond w/o calling CQ, or to get partial calls to reply (as in real life) or to shorten my CQ or TU msg's...such is life.

That being said, I really appreciate having this version available to us, and I love the WPX module (makes me work for the Q's a little more, hi)

Thank you Steve.

Mike VE9AA



--
Mirko S57AD

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

ART W2NRA
 

HI Mike,

The "respond w/o calling CQ" sort-ta works once you get a pileup going, especially if you advance the Activity.

The "partial calls" does work.  I've entered partial calls with 2 or 3 characters.  It does work better if from the front instead of the back, i.e. W2 vs NRA.

"shorten my CQ or TU msg's" is not an option.

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 10:01 AM, VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:

Shame, I didn't know about 9a5k.  Like Pete, I'd like a way to get the pileup to respond w/o calling CQ, or to get partial calls to reply (as in real life) or to shorten my CQ or TU msg's...such is life.

That being said, I really appreciate having this version available to us, and I love the WPX module (makes me work for the Q's a little more, hi)

Thank you Steve.

Mike VE9AA

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

ART W2NRA
 

Hi Steve,

OK on the lost source code, so no changes.  I noticed the "CW Pitch" is at 450Hz.  Since it cannot be changed I was wonder what are the advantages of such a low CW Pitch?

73, Art W2NRA
CWOPS #1955

On February 27, 2020 at 9:38 AM, Steve London <n2ic@...> wrote:

The new MorseRunner integration uses the same MorseRunner executable program as
DXLog.net. This MorseRunner version was written by Kresimir, 9A5K, who was also
the author of the DXLog.net contest logger. Sadly, Kresimir became a silent key
exactly one year ago, today. While most of the DXLog.net source code was
recovered, and is now being supported by K1XM and team, the source code for this
version of MorseRunner has not been found. Therefore, we cannot make any changes
to the operation of MorseRunner.

The original VE3NEA version of MorseRunner is on github. In addition, there are
several other modified versions on github. However, none of them appear to be
the 9A5K version.

73,
Steve, N2IC

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

VE9AA - Mike
 

Shame, I didn't know about 9a5k.  Like Pete, I'd like a way to get the pileup to respond w/o calling CQ, or to get partial calls to reply (as in real life) or to shorten my CQ or TU msg's...such is life.

That being said, I really appreciate having this version available to us, and I love the WPX module (makes me work for the Q's a little more, hi)

Thank you Steve.

Mike VE9AA

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:38 AM, Steve London wrote:
This MorseRunner version was written by Kresimir, 9A5K, who was also the author of the DXLog.net contest logger. Sadly, Kresimir became a silent key exactly one year ago, today.

 
--
Mike VE9AA

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Steve London
 

Thanks for all the positive comments, Saki.

The new MorseRunner integration uses the same MorseRunner executable program as DXLog.net. This MorseRunner version was written by Kresimir, 9A5K, who was also the author of the DXLog.net contest logger. Sadly, Kresimir became a silent key exactly one year ago, today. While most of the DXLog.net source code was recovered, and is now being supported by K1XM and team, the source code for this version of MorseRunner has not been found. Therefore, we cannot make any changes to the operation of MorseRunner.

The original VE3NEA version of MorseRunner is on github. In addition, there are several other modified versions on github. However, none of them appear to be the 9A5K version.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 02/27/2020 04:13 AM, DD5XX wrote:
Hi all,
I really like the new and fully integrated morse runner mode in N1MM+ which allows us to run this training simulation mode without the need of 3rd party applications like "Morse Runner". It works like a charm and I'm really satisfied. There is also a very nice improvement in this new mode: in former times when we used Alex,VE3NEA dedicated "Morse Runner" application with N1MM+ we received as exchange always a 3, 4 or 5 in case a US station called. All the other callsigns reported just a 14 which was not correct for the most times of course, for example JA0ABC also reported a 14 as well as PY1XYZ reported a 14.
Therefore I was very happy to see that this new Morserunner simulation mode now sends correct (!) "CQ WW zones" for the particular caller. This gives a very realistic and true simulation and feeling for training on N1MM+. My question related to this new fully integrated morse runner mode is:
Can we somehow get an instant feedback of N1MM+ to check/see if a call was replied correctly or not? In Alex,VE3NEA morse runner program you have the ability to see what the caller callsign was and the exchange he sent to me. Whenever I log the QSO i instantly can see if I was correct or in other case what my mistake was. This is very helpful in my opinion. Can we somehow make use of this feature in N1MM+ new morse runner mode, too ?
Looking forward to any helpful information.
73
Saki, DD5XX
_._,_._,_

Re: New Morserunner mode fully integrated in latest N1MM+ versions

Pete Smith
 

I greatly appreciate the new WPX mode, because it uses the varying serial numbers instead of the predictable zones. One question - does the SCP display have any relevance to the question iof whether the callsign was copied correctly, or is it just an artifact?  I agree with Saki that it would be useful to know when you have miscopied a call

Also, one possible enhancement - if possible, I'd like to have the Escape key programmed to interrupt the CW being sent and trigger the pileup.  Reason for this is simply that I've got into the habit of hitting Esc after "TU" and before my callsign when I know I have callers waiting

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 2/27/2020 6:13 AM, DD5XX wrote:

Hi all,

I really like the new and fully integrated morse runner mode in N1MM+ which allows us to run this training simulation mode without the need of 3rd party applications like "Morse Runner". It works like a charm and I'm really satisfied. There is also a very nice improvement in this new mode: in former times when we used Alex,VE3NEA dedicated "Morse Runner" application with N1MM+ we received as exchange always a 3, 4 or 5 in case a US station called. All the other callsigns reported just a 14 which was not correct for the most times of course, for example JA0ABC also reported a 14 as well as PY1XYZ reported a 14.

Therefore I was very happy to see that this new Morserunner simulation mode now sends correct (!) "CQ WW zones" for the particular caller. This gives a very realistic and true simulation and feeling for training on N1MM+. My question related to this new fully integrated morse runner mode is:

Can we somehow get an instant feedback of N1MM+ to check/see if a call was replied correctly or not? In Alex,VE3NEA morse runner program you have the ability to see what the caller callsign was and the exchange he sent to me. Whenever I log the QSO i instantly can see if I was correct or in other case what my mistake was. This is very helpful in my opinion. Can we somehow make use of this feature in N1MM+ new morse runner mode, too ?

Looking forward to any helpful information.

73
Saki, DD5XX

Re: FTdx101D or FTdx101MP Users

VE9AA - Mike
 

Hi Tom, 

I don't know the rig at all.......that being said, if all else fails, you can simply run your mic through (in/out) of your computers sound card and then into the mic jack on the front of the radio like many of us do.  Easy peasy.

GL
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Mike VE9AA

Re: FTdx101D or FTdx101MP Users

n7wy
 

See page 16 of the 1907 version of the manual.  Pin 1 of the RTTY/DATA connector is for audio input.  Connect the cable shield to pin 2.
Pin 4 on the same connector is labeled shift.  This is the FSK keying pin.

You should also be able to pass audio via the radio's internal sound card.  I have done it on FT8.

K3CT is correct, there is no way without something like an RSP1 on the IF output to feed the N1MM spectral display.

Bob R - N7WY

Re: N1MM and Yaesu FT818

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 
Edited

Ronnie,

See manual page 52,item 14, CAT RATE.  It appearts that your choices are only 4800, 9600, or 38,400 so the N1MM information seems to be in error.  I would suggest selecting 4800 and then also 4800 in N1MM.

I can not find it detailed in the FT-818 manual, but most Yaesu radios use two stop bits, so I suspect another error in the docs.  I recommend trying:
4800, 8, N, 2, handshake, handshake

that is, once you set the radio to 4800.

It may be that your other yaesu software works because it has an automatic baud rate search and try routine.

Please let us know and we can update the N1MM folks once it runs.

73,
Drew K3PA

Re: N1MM and Yaesu FT818

Ronnie Hull
 

good morning Dave and thanks for your reply.  Yes I am set for 19200, 8, N, 1 and handshake handshake, and yes I have selected the correct com port, using the usb-62C cable which is  hooked to the ACC port on the radio.  This is the same cable/port I can use to get into the radio with the yaesu programming software. So I have to assume the cable is good.      Im new to this digital stuff so please bear with me.    I cannot find in the manual, where I can set the port rates on the acc port.  I see where you can adjust the packet speed.  Is there a menu item I'm not seeing? I also checked in the FT818 programming software to see if you can set it up there, but I dont see it.    Searching the web has not turned up any real help.

any ideas?

thanks

Ronnie  w5sum