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Mults

Richard Zalewski
 

I posted a query during the contest about posts in the available window showing as mults when they were so obvious they were not.

Am I the only one that has this problem?  If so sure could use a clue to stop this.
Tnx

Richard 
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Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

Jamie WW3S
 

If they typed anything in the entry window and hit tab or space bar, it reserved a number....once reserved, the number is either logged or discarded...discarded or skipped numbers are never reused....


On Nov 19, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:

Ahhh, Ok, Rich, would this have done that?

We did have two computers networked,  Think like field day type of setup.

But the second one never entered anything, it was for a beginner rookie second station that was listening and tuning the bands looking for new mults, and they had the program running, so they could see the current mult list.

When they found a new mult they let the main station know by sending a message through the program.

Like KH7XXX 14.238

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/19/2018 1:18 PM, ve3ki wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET


Configuration Feature Request

-bob, w9zv
 

Configuration Feature Request - Request the ability to disable/enable the mouse wheel event to drive the BandMap Zoom in/out feature.  Keyboard/mouse click input to be unaffected.

Rationale - Like many, I frequently take advantage of the mouse wheel to bump the tuning of the radio, which works great.  Similarly like most, I also use the Bandmap feature a lot. 
 
However, while bouncing around in Windows (example, after using BandMap), or otherwise just bump the mouse accidentally, if the dialog box that has focus during a contest happens to be the Bandmap dialog box when I zip up the mouse wheel thinking I am tuning the Radio, I get a handful of unintended BandMap Zoom commands instead.  In most cases this renders the BandMap useless until I can get back to re configuring the BandMap Zoom to the desired scale to make it usable again. 
 
I infrequently use the Bandmap Zoom feature, but I am almost always using the mouse wheel to tune the Radio. This happens dozens of times over any context and is incredibly frustrating, and which can be likely very simply resolved via a configuration option. 
 
Some may like the current default behaviour, therefore the feature request is to add the capability to Disable/Enable coupling of the mouse wheel event BandMap Zoom to be the user's choice via a Configurer->Other option (or some other way to do equivalent). 
 
Behavioural/implementation question then remains - if the Bandmap wheel to zoom feature is DISABLED, do you still want the mouse scroll wheel to tune the radio or do nothing? In my view, yes bump the radio as normal in this case. If focus is on the BandMap AND the wheel to zoom feature is ENABLED, then allow the wheel to affect the Zoom feature as expected, overriding the Radio tuning. 

First post on Groups.io, hope this is correct way to do it...

Recording On The Fly Issue

Joe WB9SBD
 

Here at W9ET, we did a rookie training event for SS. All had fun.
We had an issue when making recordings on the Fly ya know Ctrl+Shift+F#

Some used the logger plain just logging, no recordings.

Others had just the F1 CQ message,

Some the full set of F keys,

and One with total recordings could have ran the whole contest with no mic at all.

We had the check box checked so each OP had their own F key setup.

But this is what would happen, that never happened before,,,

Like the OP would record their F1 message,  play it back, and if good  move on to any others.

In the past you would record it, play it back,, not like it just record it again till you did like it.

But Saturday morning, they would record it, play it, not like it and go to record it over and a box would pop up saying the file was in use, and can't record to it.

Once played you could NOT record over it again. play it 10,000 times fine but not record over it.

shut the program down, re-start and then you could record over it fine. but once played, it would always give the cant record to it is in use error message.

Thoughts?

Joe WB9SBD

Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

Mike ND9G
 

" What was also interesting, while it was skipping numbers, say we actually made at the time 7 contacts yet it was already up to 13 on the serial number, yet the program did understand that we only made 7 as indicated in the score summary window.

interesting. "

Not really, it makes perfect sense based on what you've described.  While one station was logging contacts, someone was probably entering calls and moving to the exchange field, causing the serial number to be reserved. The logging station then must skip that number. However since your second computer never actually logged anything, it wouldn't have impacted the scoring. Score is calculated only on logged contacts, serial numbers are reserved as soon as you change focus to the exchange field after entering a call.

The behavior you describe is exactly how it is designed to work.

73,
Mike ND9G


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:37 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
What was also interesting, while it was skipping numbers, say we actually made at the time 7 contacts yet it was already up to 13 on the serial number, yet the program did understand that we only made 7 as indicated in the score summary window.

interesting.

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/19/2018 2:02 PM, Kenneth Grimm wrote:
I noticed fairly in the contest that someone had a noticeably higher score than all the other folks I was working.  I stopped and watched as he handed out numbers that were advancing by two each time, ie. 1002, 1004, 1006, etc.  Odd but I figured it had to do with being SO2R or Multi. 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:18 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET



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Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

ve3ki
 

If they entered a call sign and then moved the cursor into the exchange box (e.g. to do a dupe/multiplier check), that would have reserved a serial number. Once reserved, that serial number can only be used by that computer. See <http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=The+Contest+Setup+Dialog&highlight=serial+number+reservation#Using_a_Serial_Number_Server> .

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 03:29 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Ahhh, Ok, Rich, would this have done that?

We did have two computers networked,  Think like field day type of setup.

But the second one never entered anything, it was for a beginner rookie second station that was listening and tuning the bands looking for new mults, and they had the program running, so they could see the current mult list.

When they found a new mult they let the main station know by sending a message through the program.

Like KH7XXX 14.238

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/19/2018 1:18 PM, ve3ki wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET

Escape key

wiseroger53
 

Did anyone have any problems stopping the voce repeat message using the Esc key? It would not stop in midstream only after the message was sent or is that normal?
Roger KI0F

Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

Joe WB9SBD
 

What was also interesting, while it was skipping numbers, say we actually made at the time 7 contacts yet it was already up to 13 on the serial number, yet the program did understand that we only made 7 as indicated in the score summary window.

interesting.

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/19/2018 2:02 PM, Kenneth Grimm wrote:
I noticed fairly in the contest that someone had a noticeably higher score than all the other folks I was working.  I stopped and watched as he handed out numbers that were advancing by two each time, ie. 1002, 1004, 1006, etc.  Odd but I figured it had to do with being SO2R or Multi. 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:18 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET



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Ken - K4XL
BoatAnchor Manual Archive
BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com

Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

Mike ND9G
 

Yes, if the one computer entered a call that instance of N1MM claimed that serial number, so the station that was working others grabbed the next one available. Then the person cleared that entry, but that number was already claimed, it doesn't go back into a pool. You just carry on. Then they entered another call, it claimed that number.

The numbers are claimed by an N1MM instance before the logging of the QSO, so even if they don't log the contact, it could still be grabbing numbers and throwing off the actual logged numbers. 

You scrapping the log and starting over, is now likely to penalize those stations you worked before, because they will either have a NIL or a busted serial number for their contact with you.

73,
Mike ND9G


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:29 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
Ahhh, Ok, Rich, would this have done that?

We did have two computers networked,  Think like field day type of setup.

But the second one never entered anything, it was for a beginner rookie second station that was listening and tuning the bands looking for new mults, and they had the program running, so they could see the current mult list.

When they found a new mult they let the main station know by sending a message through the program.

Like KH7XXX 14.238

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/19/2018 1:18 PM, ve3ki wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET


Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

Joe WB9SBD
 

Ahhh, Ok, Rich, would this have done that?

We did have two computers networked,  Think like field day type of setup.

But the second one never entered anything, it was for a beginner rookie second station that was listening and tuning the bands looking for new mults, and they had the program running, so they could see the current mult list.

When they found a new mult they let the main station know by sending a message through the program.

Like KH7XXX 14.238

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/19/2018 1:18 PM, ve3ki wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET


Re: SntNR 001 twice

Jaan, SM9X
 

Interesting Dan
I tried several times to get the issue captured this weekend, SntNR, but no success. Zaba managed to get it on tonites contest,OK1WC. Feels like a random thing now.
Regards, Jaan
SM9X

Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

Ken - K4XL
 

I noticed fairly in the contest that someone had a noticeably higher score than all the other folks I was working.  I stopped and watched as he handed out numbers that were advancing by two each time, ie. 1002, 1004, 1006, etc.  Odd but I figured it had to do with being SO2R or Multi. 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:18 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET



--
Ken - K4XL
BoatAnchor Manual Archive
BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com

Re: Check window not working

Guy Molinari
 

Tom,
    Here it is:
#
# Release 2018.11.02.00
# by Stu Phillips, K6TU
#
2E0AOZ
2E0BPP
2E0CEA
2E0CNL
2E0CPM
2E0CVN
2E0DKY
2E0EBM
2E0EFS
2E0EIC
2E0FFT
2E0FGA

Voicing serial numbers in SS

Kent Olsen
 

I was trying to setup advanced voicing for the SweepStakes but I gave up before the contest started. 

I used W1VE SYNDVK to create all the files. I even checked to see if they are all there, and they are.

When in Run mode I would enter a call sign and hit enter. I would get the error:
SSB Message Error: 
"File not found. 
2018-11-19 19:39:21.185 PM Correct Configurer, Letters File Path, add a comma between wav files or remove the unexpected macro from the function key.
Port: True Thread # 1 @ 2018-11-19 19:39:21.190 PM
  Operator, station call - N6WT
2018-11-19 19:39:21.195 PM User programmable Letters File Path - {Operator}\
2018-11-19 19:39:21.200 PM Parsed Letters Path - C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\LettersFiles\N6WT\
2018-11-19 19:39:21.204 PM Unparsed function key string - !,N6WT\#,CQWWEXCHANGE.WAV
2018-11-19 19:39:21.211 PM Parsed function key string - !,C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\N6WT\,C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\LettersFiles\N6WT\3.wav,C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\LettersFiles\N6WT\7.wav,C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\LettersFiles\N6WT\3.wav,C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\CQWWEXCHANGE.WAV"
2018-11-19 19:39:21.227 PM Can't find this file - !
2018-11-19 19:39:21.232 PM Can't find this file - C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\N6WT\
2018-11-19 19:39:21.237 PM Can't find this file - C:\Users\kilo6\Documents\N1MM Logger+\Wav\CQWWEXCHANGE.WAV"

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
73
Kent
N6WT

Re: Check window not working

Vytenis LY5T
 

Hmm... really strange...
BTW, latest scp file has 39000+ callsigns, not 43000.

Vytenis

Re: Check window not working

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

Why won't you send me the first 25 lines of your master.scp file?

Tom

On 11/19/2018 2:22 PM, Guy Molinari wrote:
Hi Vytenis,
   Yes.   All panes are showing.

73, Guy

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:21 AM Vytenis LY5T <vytenis.sciucka@... <mailto:vytenis.sciucka@...>> wrote:

Right click on Check window and select "Show Master pane"

Vytenis

Re: Check window not working

Guy Molinari
 

Hi Vytenis,
   Yes.   All panes are showing.

73, Guy

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:21 AM Vytenis LY5T <vytenis.sciucka@...> wrote:
Right click on Check window and select "Show Master pane"

Vytenis

Re: Check window not working

Vytenis LY5T
 

Right click on Check window and select "Show Master pane"

Vytenis

Re: A Different Serial Number Issue

ve3ki
 

Missing and out-of-sequence serial numbers are common in SO2R, SO2V and multi-radio stations, because of the way serial numbers are reserved. The contest scorers don't object to this; what matters is that the number that appears in your Cabrillo log must always be the same as the number you actually sent on the air.

Trashing the log could lead to other people losing credit and being penalized for valid contacts they made with you. Don't do that!

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 01:37 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
In SS this weekend, when we got going just screaming along making contacts, then someone noticed in the log the serial numbers were all messed up.

It was missing numbers, We'd make a contact and it would assign 1
next contact 2
next contact 4
next contact 5
next 7
next 13

The only fix we found was to trash that log completely and start totally over with a whole new log.

Any ideas as to what would cause that?

Joe W9ET

Re: SntNR 001 twice

danzee
 

Steve,
Here's what happened:
1. I updated N1MM+ to 1.0.7342.0 from whatever the latest version was at the time of SS CW.
2. I ceated a new log for SS SSB in an existing database called Sweepstakes that contained the SS CW sweeps log.
3. Entered first QSO in contest SERNO 1
4. Entered 2nd QSO in contest SERNO 1
I was running  so both Q's were on the same frequency and nothing changed from one to the other.  N1MM was in Run.
I used an external voice keyer, so N1MM+ function keys were not exercised.
 
I just now tried to reproduce the problem by creating a new SS SSB log (with different start time) in the same database.  CND
I tried in both Run and S&P modes, but still couldn't duplicate. 
 
I created a new test database and a SS SSB test log in it.  CND
 
I'm baffled.  Could using an existing database that was created under an earlier revision with a new log have caused the problem?
 
73, Dan