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Re: N1MM+ changing IC-7300 filter from Wide to Nar when QSY

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

Is changing which filter you specify to be default an option?

73,
Drew K3PA

Re: N1MM Logger+ S3DB file Appears Out-of-Date

Larry K8UT
 

Are you sure that is the name of the active database? Look in the title bar of the log window...

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Dave Malley, W1VEM" <dkmalley@...>
Sent: 2018-12-21 11:14:26
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] N1MM Logger+ S3DB file Appears Out-of-Date

So here's the thing.  I running the latest pgm (version 1.0.7398) on a Win10 Pro laptop (update 1803).  While Logger+ shows contacts up thru this week, Windows Explorer says my K1NYK.S3DB file has a March 2018 date.  Why would that be so and what if anything shud I do abt it? 

Thx and Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to all!

Dave

Re: N1MM+ changing IC-7300 filter from Wide to Nar when QSY

Paul K6PO
 
Edited

More on this. I put a sniffer on the USB bus to the IC-7300 and see that N1MM+ sends these CI-V commands to the radio when I click on the bandmap to QSY:

fefe94e025000084081400fd   (Set selected VFO freq 0014.088400)
fefe94e00700fd                       (Select VFO A)
fefe94e00f00fd                        (Set Split OFF)
fefe94e026000101fd               (Set selected VFO mode USB, Data ON, "default" filter)

The problem I am seeing is caused by the last of these. By not specifying a filter in Command 26, the factory default filter is implied, which is FIL2 for USB (which is Nar in N1MM land). 

Actually, all but the first of these 4 commands are superfluous for this simple QSY. I guess they are there to handle a more general case of QSYing to a different band or subband. So I would suggest this:

N1MM+ should keep track of the last filter used on each band-mode, and specify that filter when issuing a Command 26 or equivalent, reverting to default only if a band-mode combination has not been used before.

Thanks,

Paul K6PO
 

Re: N1MM+ MMTTY Engine Display

Les Elliott
 

Don’t know the XY problem, but for 4, click the ‘Not’ button
 
Les, G4OGB
 

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:03 PM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] N1MM+ MMTTY Engine Display
 
My old WIN7 computer died.
I'm installing N1MM+ from scratch onto a new WIN10 computer.
 
My issue lies with the MMTTY engine display in N1MM+ DI-1 and DI2-1 for both VFOA and VFOB.
 
1. The engine display in stand alone MMTTY shows both the waterfall and signal running the full width from left to right and the display having the familiar depression in the middle between the two vertical bars. This type display is what I've always see in the past.
2. The MMTTY engine display in N1MM+ is different. It reserves the right side of the display for the XY scope. If I check XY scope in View it places the XY signal in this reserved right side portion of the engine display.
3.If I uncheck XY scope the XY signal disappears but the waterfall and signal display do not expand to the full width of the MMTTY engine display.
4. Additionally the signal display has a small arrow pointing down where the normal depression would be. I also don't want to see this.
 
I've read and tried everything but cannot get back to a full width display with no depression arrow and no space taken up for the reserved XY portion of the display.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
73,

Bud W3LL   w3ll@...

N1MM Logger+ S3DB file Appears Out-of-Date

Dave Malley, W1VEM
 

So here's the thing.  I running the latest pgm (version 1.0.7398) on a Win10 Pro laptop (update 1803).  While Logger+ shows contacts up thru this week, Windows Explorer says my K1NYK.S3DB file has a March 2018 date.  Why would that be so and what if anything shud I do abt it? 

Thx and Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to all!

Dave

Windows 10 update to ver 1809 - no problems

ART W2NRA
 

I just got an update to my Windows 10 PC, version 1809.  This was a major update and to about 1/2 hour to complete with multiple downloads and restarts.  All is well.  N1MM Logger is working perfectly.  I have an SO2V setup in CW and RTTY with my IC-7610.  I had to problem with Comports or USB port or CODECs.

73 Art W2NRA

Re: Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

VE9AA - Mike
 

Karin,

In NORMAL operations you do not look at the Telnet window, You run it minimized.
ie: connect to your favorite cluster, insure spots are flowing, then minimize it.

The bandmap(s) and the available mults/Q's (etc etc) windows in N1MM are what you look
at for mults, Q's, etc.

Is THAT the issue?

Mike VE9AA

FT8 mode and Multipliers window

LY2CX <ly2cx.vigis@...>
 


Hi All,

I'm using data Broadcasting from VSJT-X (v2.0) to N1MM  (v.1.0.7398.0)  It's a
great functionality.

But there is no way to see worked Countries in Multiplier's window as there is
no possibility
to select FT8 mode to be displayed with  "SET BANDS & MODES TO BE DISPLAYED" .
There are only CW, PHONE, RTTY, PSK, CONTEST.
I do use a  DX- GENERAL LOGGING as a log type.

Would be great to have  FT8 mode to be displayed in Multipliers window.

73's Vigis LY2CX

Re: Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

Ted Bryant
 

Hi Karin,

 

I read it to mean that any spots that are caught by your filters will show up in the telnet window but they will be greyed out.  They will NOT show up in the Bandmap.  Seeing those telnet spots in grey gives you visual confirmation that your filters are working.

 

MX and73,

Ted W4NZ

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Karin Johnson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:25 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

 

Ted:
I previously saw that page reference.  I am having difficulty understanding the true meaning of it.  I have two filters set so I am assuming that
any spots that the filters would catch would not be displayed at all.  Am I missing something????
karin

_._,_._,_

Re: Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

ve3ki
 

There are multiple layers of filters - some at the cluster node, some in the program. Spots that are filtered out at the cluster node are never sent to you, but spots that are filtered out in the Telnet window (or the Available Mults & Qs window) are displayed in grey in the Telnet window but do not appear in the Bandmap (or Available) windows. See <http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Telnet+Window&structure=N1MM+Logger+Documentation#Spot_Filtering>.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 05:24 PM, Karin Johnson wrote:
Ted:
I previously saw that page reference.  I am having difficulty understanding the true meaning of it.  I have two filters set so I am assuming that
any spots that the filters would catch would not be displayed at all.  Am I missing something????
karin

Re: Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

Karin Johnson
 

Ted:
I previously saw that page reference.  I am having difficulty understanding the true meaning of it.  I have two filters set so I am assuming that
any spots that the filters would catch would not be displayed at all.  Am I missing something????
karin

N1MM+ MMTTY Engine Display

Bud Governale
 

My old WIN7 computer died.
I'm installing N1MM+ from scratch onto a new WIN10 computer.
 
My issue lies with the MMTTY engine display in N1MM+ DI-1 and DI2-1 for both VFOA and VFOB.
 
1. The engine display in stand alone MMTTY shows both the waterfall and signal running the full width from left to right and the display having the familiar depression in the middle between the two vertical bars. This type display is what I've always see in the past.
2. The MMTTY engine display in N1MM+ is different. It reserves the right side of the display for the XY scope. If I check XY scope in View it places the XY signal in this reserved right side portion of the engine display.
3.If I uncheck XY scope the XY signal disappears but the waterfall and signal display do not expand to the full width of the MMTTY engine display.
4. Additionally the signal display has a small arrow pointing down where the normal depression would be. I also don't want to see this.
 
I've read and tried everything but cannot get back to a full width display with no depression arrow and no space taken up for the reserved XY portion of the display.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
73,

Bud W3LL   w3ll@...

Re: Spot Collector question

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

Dick,

If you mean Spot Collector as in the DX Labs program, best to post there.

73,

Drew K3PA

Re: Spot Collector question

Jim W7RY
 

Dick.. You need to tell the cluster you are connected to to send only the spots that you want, from the originating stations in the areas that you want.

Agreed, spots from Europe are no good to use in the US, but neither are the US spots good for them. So all that is done at a cluster level.

There is some tayloring you can do in N1MM, but it's advised you dont take every spot the clsuter sends out, especially during a contest because there are hundreds of spots per second during a busy contest weekend.

Your cluster owner can help you with that, or do some reading on how to do it with the clusters help menus.
Good luck!

Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 12/20/2018 9:25 AM, Dick- K9OM via Groups.Io wrote:

In Spot Collector, I'm wondering why I receive spots posted from stations in Asia and Europe when I have the "Origin Filter" set to only receive spots generated by stations in: NA-E, NA-M, & NA-W?  Examples of spots currently on my screen are:

---9V1YC posted bu JO1YYP.
---SM6CW posted by DL1RNN.
---OK1HB posed by ES5RC.

My "Spot Sources" are: W3LPL and K1TTT.

Is there another setting in Spot Collector that I need to enable besides the Origin Filter so I only receive spots posted by NA stations?

Thanks & 73,

Dick- K9OM

 


Spot Collector question

Dick- K9OM
 

In Spot Collector, I'm wondering why I receive spots posted from stations in Asia and Europe when I have the "Origin Filter" set to only receive spots generated by stations in: NA-E, NA-M, & NA-W?  Examples of spots currently on my screen are:

---9V1YC posted bu JO1YYP.
---SM6CW posted by DL1RNN.
---OK1HB posed by ES5RC.

My "Spot Sources" are: W3LPL and K1TTT.

Is there another setting in Spot Collector that I need to enable besides the Origin Filter so I only receive spots posted by NA stations?

Thanks & 73,

Dick- K9OM
RLVZ@...

 

Re: Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

Ted Bryant
 

Hi Karin,

 

“…what is the meaning of the grey'd out text…”

 

Look here:

http://n1mmplus.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Telnet+Window

 

  • All incoming information from the connected DX cluster is displayed in the text area of the Telnet window. They are color-coded by mode - defaults are blue for CW, magenta for digital, and black for SSB. Spots forwarded to the Bandmaps and Available Mults & Qs window are filtered as provided on the Filters tab. Spots that are filtered out (not forwarded) are greyed out in the text area.”

73, Ted W4NZ

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Karin Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:40 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

 

Hello:
I tried searching for the answer to the question of the meaning of the colors used in displaying spots in the Telnet window to no avail.
I get the meaning of "Blue" for CW and "Black for SSB", but what is the meaning of the grey'd out text.  I have two filter set
one to show spots for W and VE and one to reject six meter spots.
Regards and Thanks,
Karin   K3Uu

Meaning of colors in Telnet spots window???

Karin Johnson
 

Hello:
I tried searching for the answer to the question of the meaning of the colors used in displaying spots in the Telnet window to no avail.
I get the meaning of "Blue" for CW and "Black for SSB", but what is the meaning of the grey'd out text.  I have two filter set
one to show spots for W and VE and one to reject six meter spots.
Regards and Thanks,
Karin   K3Uu

Re: Radio going into transmit.

Jeff WB9DAR
 

Hey Rich
Thanks again for getting back to me. It took me a while and I’m not sure if I quite understand all that’s going on. Here’s a summary of what I did. I’ve successfully with much help got N1MM to do AFSK rtty. 
First: All my other programs:
WW, FLDigi are all running fine. I’ve  been using AFSK for rtty and all my programs are set to cat control transmit-ptt (I thought I mentioned that earlier, maybe not). In any case I went thru what you said and also went thru the N1MM manual (again) and got everything working. 
Here are my settings. Quite honestly I’m fairly sure I’m using cat ptt but not 100%. Maybe you can tell me.
In MMTTY settings I have 
TX/PORT/PTT&FSK/PORT = None. 
In N1MM l have 
Hardware/port com4
Radio 7610 & cw/other checked
(Digi is unchecked.)
Under SET
I have speed at 115200
DTR always off
RTS always on
PTT via radio command digital mode checked. 
MMTTY stand-alone won’t transmit because I believe when I had it working I did have a port assigned to it as well as extfsk64. 
Anyway.... I’m going to quit while I’m ahead for a while. Thank you very much for your input, time and help. It’s much appreciated. 

73 Jeff WB9DAR

On Dec 19, 2018, at 11:08 AM, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:

What PTT method(s) do you have configured in N1MM+, in MMTTY, and in the radio? It sounds as if you have the radio configured for hardware PTT, and in the N1MM+ Configurer, the signal line that you are using for PTT is set to Always On instead of to PTT.

The Silicon Labs driver creates two virtual serial ports, USB1(A) and USB1(B). For purposes of illustration, I will assume Windows has assigned COM port numbers COM6 and COM7 to these two ports respectively. if you have followed the instructions in the IC-7610_CW_SSB_RTTY_FSK_Config.pdf file from the N1MM+ web site Additional Support Files gallery, then in the radio you have set:
USB Send = USB1(B) RTS
USB Keying CW = USB1(A) DTR
USB Keying RTTY = USB1(B) DTR
Take careful note of the (A) and (B) here - USB Send and USB Keying RTTY should be on the second (B) port, and USB Keying CW should be on the first (A) port.

Now in the N1MM+ Configurer, the radio control port (USB1(A), or COM6 in my example) should have the Radio column set to IC-7610. If you are using the USB port for CW keying, or if you have chosen to use CAT commands for PTT in one or more modes, then you should check the CW/Other box for this port. In the port setup (Set button), Set RTS on this port to Always Off. if you are using the USB port for CW keying, set DTR to CW, otherwise set DTR to Always Off. If you have chosen to use CAT commands for PTT in SSB and/or CW, check the PTT via Radio Command check boxes for SSB and/or CW, as you choose. 

You do not need to mention the second port (USB1(B) or COM7) in the Configurer at all (the exception would be if you choose to use hardware PTT via the USB port in all modes). If you do choose to configure COM7, set the Radio to None, and check both the CW/Other and the Digital check boxes. In the port setup, set DTR to Always Off and make sure RTS is NOT set to Always On. It should be either Always Off, or PTT if you are using it for PTT in all modes. If the only mode you use this port for PTT in is RTTY, you shouldn't bother configuring this port in the N1MM+ Configurer at all.

In MMTTY, the FSK & PTT port would be set to EXTFSK, and in EXTFSK, the port would be set to the USB1(B) port (COM7 in my example), with DTR selected for FSK keying and RTS selected for PTT.

73,
Rich VE3KI







On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Jeff WB9DAR wrote:
Hi All
Thanks to Rich VE3KI for helping me to get logger up and running with rtty. I can now transmit rtty. However, I have another issue which I couldn’t find a solution to here. 
I’ll turn the radio on (ic 7610) first, then N1MM+. As soon as logger loads up it puts the radio into transmits (no power output) and the only way to get out of transmit is to power down the radio. This does not happen with my other my other apps. I do not use VOX. With the radio on I can still transmit rtty with power; it just won’t go back into receive after completing my text stream. 
Your help will be most appreciated. Thank you again everybody. Great group here. 
73
Jeff WB9DAR

Re: Radio going into transmit.

ve3ki
 

What PTT method(s) do you have configured in N1MM+, in MMTTY, and in the radio? It sounds as if you have the radio configured for hardware PTT, and in the N1MM+ Configurer, the signal line that you are using for PTT is set to Always On instead of to PTT.

The Silicon Labs driver creates two virtual serial ports, USB1(A) and USB1(B). For purposes of illustration, I will assume Windows has assigned COM port numbers COM6 and COM7 to these two ports respectively. if you have followed the instructions in the IC-7610_CW_SSB_RTTY_FSK_Config.pdf file from the N1MM+ web site Additional Support Files gallery, then in the radio you have set:
USB Send = USB1(B) RTS
USB Keying CW = USB1(A) DTR
USB Keying RTTY = USB1(B) DTR
Take careful note of the (A) and (B) here - USB Send and USB Keying RTTY should be on the second (B) port, and USB Keying CW should be on the first (A) port.

Now in the N1MM+ Configurer, the radio control port (USB1(A), or COM6 in my example) should have the Radio column set to IC-7610. If you are using the USB port for CW keying, or if you have chosen to use CAT commands for PTT in one or more modes, then you should check the CW/Other box for this port. In the port setup (Set button), Set RTS on this port to Always Off. if you are using the USB port for CW keying, set DTR to CW, otherwise set DTR to Always Off. If you have chosen to use CAT commands for PTT in SSB and/or CW, check the PTT via Radio Command check boxes for SSB and/or CW, as you choose. 

You do not need to mention the second port (USB1(B) or COM7) in the Configurer at all (the exception would be if you choose to use hardware PTT via the USB port in all modes). If you do choose to configure COM7, set the Radio to None, and check both the CW/Other and the Digital check boxes. In the port setup, set DTR to Always Off and make sure RTS is NOT set to Always On. It should be either Always Off, or PTT if you are using it for PTT in all modes. If the only mode you use this port for PTT in is RTTY, you shouldn't bother configuring this port in the N1MM+ Configurer at all.

In MMTTY, the FSK & PTT port would be set to EXTFSK, and in EXTFSK, the port would be set to the USB1(B) port (COM7 in my example), with DTR selected for FSK keying and RTS selected for PTT.

73,
Rich VE3KI







On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Jeff WB9DAR wrote:
Hi All
Thanks to Rich VE3KI for helping me to get logger up and running with rtty. I can now transmit rtty. However, I have another issue which I couldn’t find a solution to here. 
I’ll turn the radio on (ic 7610) first, then N1MM+. As soon as logger loads up it puts the radio into transmits (no power output) and the only way to get out of transmit is to power down the radio. This does not happen with my other my other apps. I do not use VOX. With the radio on I can still transmit rtty with power; it just won’t go back into receive after completing my text stream. 
Your help will be most appreciated. Thank you again everybody. Great group here. 
73
Jeff WB9DAR

Re: Radio going into transmit.

Jeff WB9DAR
 

Sorry about the duplicate. Don’t know how I did that. 
Jeff

On Dec 19, 2018, at 10:08 AM, Jeff WB9DAR <jeff5544@...> wrote:

Hi All
Thanks to Rich VE3KI for helping me to get logger up and running with rtty. I can now transmit rtty. However, I have another issue which I couldn’t find a solution to here. 
I’ll turn the radio on (ic 7610) first, then N1MM+. As soon as logger loads up it puts the radio into transmits (no power output) and the only way to get out of transmit is to power down the radio. This does not happen with my other my other apps. I do not use VOX. With the radio on I can still transmit rtty with power; it just won’t go back into receive after completing my text stream. 
Your help will be most appreciated. Thank you again everybody. Great group here. 
73
Jeff WB9DAR