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locked Re: New Version

Tom - N1MM
 

Version 1.0.7273 (Setember 11, 2018)
  1. SAC: Allow zero in rx serial number (SM5AJV) (Coded by N1MM)
  2. CWOPS, CWOPSOPEN: warn user when invalid name is entered (AD6E)(Coded by N1MM)

Re: SafeSerialPort.vb code Hanging in Windows 10/Winkey/Build 7261

John Bednar
 

Gerry,

 

> Now some code change has definitely broken something.

This is the first report. Have you installed an older version to confirm?

 

John, K3CT

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerry Hull
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 5:25 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] SafeSerialPort.vb code Hanging in Windows 10/Winkey/Build 7261

 

Hi Guys,

 

So -- This Windows 10 Enterprise Laptop has worked for a long, long time.  Now some code change has definitely broken something.

 

If I run N1MM+ and attach using the Visual Studio debugger, even with no source, I can tell that it hangs in SafeSerialPort.vb.

 

What am I trying to do?   Send CW.   It is configured for Winkey.  I'm using an RRC1258, and the box works fine with other PCs.

 

Normally, if all working, the first time I do anything, the Winkey Version number shows up in the Info Box.   Now, if I start N1MM+, and simply press PageUp/PageDn, the application freezes.

Also, if I go to close N1MM+, it hangs the app and must be killed by task manager.  When I do that, the "Do you want to close N1MM+?" dialog appears for a second, then disappears as the app closes.

 

This is Windows Enterprise 10 64-bit OS, 16 GB Ram, otherwise same PC as ever for N1MM.

 

73, Gerry W1VE

 

 

 

Re: Possible Bug: September VHF Contest SSB contacts logged as RY (digital)

ve3ki
 

Selecting USB on the K2 does not tell the program what mode you want the program to log QSOs in - perhaps you might want to continue logging QSOs in digital mode with the radio still in USB. Instead of using the radio's mode controls to change modes, you must do the mode change in the program and let the program tell the radio what mode it should be in.

Since the K2 does not have any VHF band as a native band, you need to set up the transverter offset(s) for it as well. Otherwise, selecting one of the Band Panel buttons for a band that the radio does not support might result in nothing changing (this may vary between different radio types - but one of the possible outcomes is no change in either the band or the mode once everything settles). Open the Bandmap window for Radio 1, right-click in that window and select the Set Transceiver Offset Frequency menu item, then enter the transverter and IF frequencies for the VHF band(s) you use that radio with. After you have done this, when you rotate the tuning knob on the radio you should see the frequency at the top of the Bandmap window and in the title bar of the Radio 1 Entry window change as you turn the knob, and the frequency you see should match the frequency from the transverter, not the IF frequency in the rig.

When you put the program into DIG mode, it should open the Digital Interface and digital engine (MMVARI) windows, even though you aren't using them. You can minimize them to the Task Bar to get them out of the way, but don't close them entirely while you are logging digital mode contacts. When switching from Digital to CW or SSB, these windows should close automatically - if they don't, try closing them manually from the Task Bar.

Although Radio 2 is manual, it is still important to choose the correct band in its Entry window so that contacts made on that radio and logged in the Radio 2 Entry window will be logged correctly. Note as well that in SO2R the program will not allow you to choose the same band on both radios. Before changing bands on either radio to the band that the other radio was formerly on, you must first move that radio to a different band. This is only to overcome the software "lockout" - you are still responsible for any hardware protection that may be needed to prevent one transmitter from damaging the other receiver.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 07:05 PM, Lenny Wintfeld wrote:

Setup as follows: N1MM+ v1.0.7268.0,  Windows 10-64 bit,  Mode SSB+CW+DIGITAL,  Contest ARRLVHFSEP, Configured as SO2R, First radio Elecraft K2  controlled by N1MM+ on COM3, Second radio Kenwood without COM connection to N1MM+. 

Problem: After the first time I select a band in the DIG column of the qso entry window, (for the Elecraft K2 I.F. radio -- on COM3), I can no longer select a band in the SSB column in the QSO entry window. Once the first digital qso is logged, selecting USB on the (Elecraft K2) moves the band selection in the loggers qso entry window not to PH, but to DIG. In other words, all phone qso's logged after the DIG band is selected the first time are logged as digital (RY).  If I select CW on the K2, the selection on the QSO entry window goes to CW, but the QSO is still logged as "RY" (digital). If I never select DIG in the qso entry window, PH and CW qsos are all logged correctly.

I correct this problem by shutting down N1MM+ every time I finish doing some digital qso's and then restart N1MM+. Kind of cumbersome during a contest.

NOTE1:  The Elecraft K2 radio does not have a separate digital mode -- digital qsos are done with the rig set to USB and logged by selecting DIG in the log entry window for the band that the K2 is set to.

NOTE2: I posted this same problem after the January 2018 VHF contest (for version1.0.7004.0) and also after the June 2017 contest.  I think this is a bug, but if it is operator error, the advice so far from the list has not been able to correct it.


Do you have an idea on how to correct this (or if it is a bug, when it will get fixed)?

Thanks for your attention!

73, Lenny W2BVH

Possible Bug: September VHF Contest SSB contacts logged as RY (digital)

Lenny Wintfeld
 

Setup as follows: N1MM+ v1.0.7268.0,  Windows 10-64 bit,  Mode SSB+CW+DIGITAL,  Contest ARRLVHFSEP, Configured as SO2R, First radio Elecraft K2  controlled by N1MM+ on COM3, Second radio Kenwood without COM connection to N1MM+. 

Problem: After the first time I select a band in the DIG column of the qso entry window, (for the Elecraft K2 I.F. radio -- on COM3), I can no longer select a band in the SSB column in the QSO entry window. Once the first digital qso is logged, selecting USB on the (Elecraft K2) moves the band selection in the loggers qso entry window not to PH, but to DIG. In other words, all phone qso's logged after the DIG band is selected the first time are logged as digital (RY).  If I select CW on the K2, the selection on the QSO entry window goes to CW, but the QSO is still logged as "RY" (digital). If I never select DIG in the qso entry window, PH and CW qsos are all logged correctly.

I correct this problem by shutting down N1MM+ every time I finish doing some digital qso's and then restart N1MM+. Kind of cumbersome during a contest.

NOTE1:  The Elecraft K2 radio does not have a separate digital mode -- digital qsos are done with the rig set to USB and logged by selecting DIG in the log entry window for the band that the K2 is set to.

NOTE2: I posted this same problem after the January 2018 VHF contest (for version1.0.7004.0) and also after the June 2017 contest.  I think this is a bug, but if it is operator error, the advice so far from the list has not been able to correct it.


Do you have an idea on how to correct this (or if it is a bug, when it will get fixed)?

Thanks for your attention!

73, Lenny W2BVH

SafeSerialPort.vb code Hanging in Windows 10/Winkey/Build 7261

Gerry Hull
 

Hi Guys,

So -- This Windows 10 Enterprise Laptop has worked for a long, long time.  Now some code change has definitely broken something.

If I run N1MM+ and attach using the Visual Studio debugger, even with no source, I can tell that it hangs in SafeSerialPort.vb.

What am I trying to do?   Send CW.   It is configured for Winkey.  I'm using an RRC1258, and the box works fine with other PCs.

Normally, if all working, the first time I do anything, the Winkey Version number shows up in the Info Box.   Now, if I start N1MM+, and simply press PageUp/PageDn, the application freezes.
Also, if I go to close N1MM+, it hangs the app and must be killed by task manager.  When I do that, the "Do you want to close N1MM+?" dialog appears for a second, then disappears as the app closes.

This is Windows Enterprise 10 64-bit OS, 16 GB Ram, otherwise same PC as ever for N1MM.

73, Gerry W1VE



Re: New Super Check Partial files available VER20180802 (02 AUG 2018)

les bannon <wf5e@...>
 



On Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:09 AM, Stu K6TU <stu@...> wrote:


A New release of the Super Check Partial database files is available at:


Calls in the MASTER.DTA file: 40,026

If you would like to contribute your CABRILLO format logs for the SCP database, please send them at any time.

The easiest thing to do is to bcc the following email address:
               
          logs@...

...when you submit your log to the sponsor’s robot after each contest. 

Please DO NOT send ADIF files!

You can send more than one log attachment in a single email BUT PLEASE DON’T SEND THEM IN A ZIP file!

If you want to check the version of the SCP files you are using, look for a call beginning with “VER2".  Every SCP file includes the version number in the list of calls in the format VERYYYYMMDD.

The next release of the database will be at the beginning of September 2018.  Any requested changes or deletions of callsigns received by NOON PST on September 1st, 2018 will be included in that release.

PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SEND ADD/CHANGE MESSAGES WITHOUT ATTACHED LOGS OTHERWISE I PROBABLY WON’T SEE YOUR REQUEST due to the email processing robot.

Please let me know if you find any bad calls in the files.
Thanks again to all the contributors!
Stu K6TU


























Re: [wsjtgroup] WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

ve3ki
 

You do not need to configure for SO2R unless you are actually controlling the second radio from N1MM+. If none of your radios is configured in N1MM+ for radio control, the program does not need to know how many radios you have, and a single entry window (SO1V) is all you need.

The SO2R trick would be for the case where you have two radios, both interfaced for radio control - one from WSJT-X and one from N1MM+. If you are using two radios, you will need to ensure somehow that transmitting on one radio does not destroy the receiver in the other radio. That is basically why N1MM+ in SO2R mode does not allow both radios to be on the same band.

The important thing for logging is to always make sure that the mode and band the logging program thinks you are in (which can be conveyed to the program using the Band Panel buttons) is the same as the mode and band you are currently actually operating in. Radio control would do that automatically, but if you are not using radio control in the logging program (N1MM+), it is up to you to ensure that you are logging contacts in the right mode and on the right band. Once you have done that, logging of CW/SSB contacts is no different whether the radio is interfaced or not (and whether or not you are actually using different radios for different bands or modes) - you enter the call signs and exchanges the same way in either case.

If you are using N1MM+ to send CW, you need to make sure that the program knows you are in CW mode (easily done by clicking on the CW button in the Band Panel) and that the CW keying interface you are using from the program is physically connected to the radio that is being used for CW, regardless of whether that is the same radio you are using for FT8 or not. Ditto for computer voice keying in phone modes if you are using that.

Assuming WSJT-X has radio control, then when you change frequency or mode in the radio, it will probably change the background color in its frequency window from black to red, but since you are not trying to use WSJT-X at that time, you don't need to worry about that. Just make sure the radio is back on the correct frequency and in the correct mode before starting to transmit in WSJT-X again.

73,
Rich VE3KI




On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:39 AM, David AD4TJ wrote:
 
Rich, this info looks like the way I need to go. Let WSJTX control the radio( it MUST control the radio for FT8 operations ) and leave N1MM as a stand-alone( un-configured ). I will have to investigate the SO2R idea; never have looked at that, as my antenna situation is minimal; can't have 2 radios operating as there is only 1 feedline( for HF, anyway ); so I have no idea what you mean when you say " ... won't let you put both Entry windows onto the same band. "
 
I think I have this right: If I use the TS-2000X for 6 meter FT8 contacts, configured as you have recommended above, then while still using that radio, I could make SSB/CW/FM contacts on 6 meeters and/or other bands with no groaning or complaining from either N1MM or WSJTX? Or, just use the other radio, non-interfaced, and manually input the QSO details. 
 
Thanks for the help!
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
On Monday, September 10, 2018, 9:54:48 AM EDT, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
 
 
My first question would be, do you really need rig control from N1MM+? If not, the solution is simple. Configure WSJT-X to control the radio. Also, set it up to broadcast ADIF log data to N1MM+ (Settings window, Reporting tab, bottom of the window). Configure N1MM+ for "Manual" rig control (no serial port in the Configurer for rig control). You can still configure a port for CW for a Winkeyer or serial port keying, and also for hardware PTT control if you need it. In the N1MM+ Configurer under the Broadcast Data tab, check the "Enable" check box for WSJT and JTAlert. You don't need to use JTAlert for this - WSJT-X version 1.9 is able to send log data to N1MM+ directly without the help of JTAlert. In the contest setup, set the contest Mode to SSB+CW+DIGITAL.

In the Entry window, enable the Band Panel (right-click menu). Use the Band Panel buttons in N1MM+ to switch bands and modes for logging, and do the actual band and mode switching on the radio by hand - it will be up to you to keep the radio and the logging software in sync. Note that when you put the radio into Digital mode using the Band Panel buttons, N1MM+ will open the Digital Interface window and a digital engine window (e.g. MMVARI). You can minimize the DI window and the MMVARI window with the - icon at the right end of the title bars, as you won't actually be using those windows. In FT8 use WSJT-X to do everything - each time you log a contact in WSJT-X, the log data will be transferred to N1MM+ automatically.

If you need rig control in N1MM+, you have to find some way of sharing rig control between WSJT-X and N1MM+. Several people have had difficulty getting WSJT-X rig control to work through LP-Bridge, so an alternative way of sharing rig control might be a better way to go. The way I did it in June is described at <https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/35350>, which in turn leans heavily on the DXLab Suites documentation and involves more software, not just N1MM+ and WSJT-X. If you are not familiar with DXLab, that might be more complicated than you want - but it did allow me to switch modes quickly and easily without reconfiguring.

You mentioned the possibility of using two radios. That brings to mind a third potential solution, namely to configure N1MM+ for SO2R, with Radio 1 configured as a non-interfaced radio used for FT8 contacts from WSJT-X, and Radio 2, either interfaced or not, doing CW/SSB. There is a "gotcha" with this method - N1MM+ won't let you put both Entry windows onto the same band, so when you change modes on the same band, you will have to use the Band Panel buttons in both Entry windows to move Radio 1 to another band before moving Radio 2 onto the band that Radio 1 was using, and vice versa. This is not a configuration change, it just takes two mouse clicks.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 07:17 AM, David AD4TJ wrote:
 
More info: I had previously installed LPBridge, and had it sorta/kinda working, but still did not do exactly what I wanted to do, and, IIRC, stopped functioning after a few entries were made( but that is from memory from months ago ). Do I have to have JTAlertX running to have FT8 contacts logged to N1MM? I downloaded com0com but instructions to me are very vague.
 
I am after a way to log FT8 contacts, then easily and quickly switch to SSB or CW or FM to make more contacts. I know WSJTX does not do those modes, so somehow the connection between WSJTX and N1MM has to be broken or changed( right? ).
 
If WSJTX is still active, then the radio or N1MM will not like the attempts to, say, log an SSB contact on 50.125 while WSJTX is in the FT8 mode. I have received a couple of emails saying the N1MM configuration must be changed and WSJTX has to be shut down, but no complete details were given.
 
I have another radio that I can use to make SSB, CW, and FM contacts with, while leaving the TS-2000X for FT8 contacts, but N1MM is wanting the TS-2000 frequencies instead of allowing me to use the bands from the other radio( the other radio is not wired into the system, I would manually change bands and modes in N1MM ). It is looking like there is no easy way of doing what I want to do. That is one reason I only made 3 contacts in the contest over the weekend; the other is I had very little time to be on the radio.
 
Am I overlooking something, or is it out there somewhere that I have not looked at yet? Thanks again for all the help.
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
 
On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 11:55:39 PM EDT, Black Michael mdblack98@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:
 
 
 

 

Not sure what isn't working for you...you didn't quite explain that.
I assume you've enabled N1MM in Settings/Reporting in WSJT-X?
 
de Mike W9MDB
 
 
 
On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 9:23:16 PM CDT, David Tanks ad4tj@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:
 
 
 

 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.
 
Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
 
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Experimental version for SAC (serial numbers by band for Multi-One category).

NA3M Nick
 

Rules for SAC 2018 allow using serial numbers by band for Multi-One
category. Some operators requested this feature because it makes numbers
shorter (saves time) and also reserving/releasing serial number by Mult
station will not cause sudden changes of serial numbers sequence sent by Run
station on the other band. Public version has it for Multi-Multi category
only so I uploaded experimental version that has serial numbers by band for
both Multi-One and Multi-Multi categories. If you want to test the updated
SAC contest code, look for the experimental version here:

http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=20

Let me know if it does not work for you as expected,

Nick NA3M

Re: SO2V(R) operators using 2 keyboards: Help test unreleased feature: Show the most recent text cursor position in the inactive EntryWindow

Andy (KU7T)
 

Bill,

Thanks for looking at this. In the video, pay attention to the EntryWindow that is not in focus (where I am not typing). There is a new text cursor in gray that shows you where I left off in that window, before the focus was removed. Can you see it? Once you see it, play with the experimental version and see if this works for you there too…

 

Andy

KU7T

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Bill Stravinsky via Groups.Io <k3wjv@...>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:52:53 AM
To: n1mmloggerplus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] SO2V(R) operators using 2 keyboards: Help test unreleased feature: Show the most recent text cursor position in the inactive EntryWindow
 
I thought the you tube would really show me what the jist of this is but it didn't, hi.  Not sure what is trying to be accomplished.  Having no audio in
the you tube sure didn't help, hi.  I don't seem to think I have any problems with 2 keyboards so maybe this won't really help me.

Bill
K3WJV

Re: SO2V(R) operators using 2 keyboards: Help test unreleased feature: Show the most recent text cursor position in the inactive EntryWindow

Bill Stravinsky
 

I thought the you tube would really show me what the jist of this is but it didn't, hi.  Not sure what is trying to be accomplished.  Having no audio in
the you tube sure didn't help, hi.  I don't seem to think I have any problems with 2 keyboards so maybe this won't really help me.

Bill
K3WJV

Re: [wsjtgroup] WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

David AD4TJ
 

Rich, this info looks like the way I need to go. Let WSJTX control the radio( it MUST control the radio for FT8 operations ) and leave N1MM as a stand-alone( un-configured ). I will have to investigate the SO2R idea; never have looked at that, as my antenna situation is minimal; can't have 2 radios operating as there is only 1 feedline( for HF, anyway ); so I have no idea what you mean when you say " ... won't let you put both Entry windows onto the same band. "

I think I have this right: If I use the TS-2000X for 6 meter FT8 contacts, configured as you have recommended above, then while still using that radio, I could make SSB/CW/FM contacts on 6 meeters and/or other bands with no groaning or complaining from either N1MM or WSJTX? Or, just use the other radio, non-interfaced, and manually input the QSO details. 

Thanks for the help!

73, David AD4TJ

On Monday, September 10, 2018, 9:54:48 AM EDT, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:


My first question would be, do you really need rig control from N1MM+? If not, the solution is simple. Configure WSJT-X to control the radio. Also, set it up to broadcast ADIF log data to N1MM+ (Settings window, Reporting tab, bottom of the window). Configure N1MM+ for "Manual" rig control (no serial port in the Configurer for rig control). You can still configure a port for CW for a Winkeyer or serial port keying, and also for hardware PTT control if you need it. In the N1MM+ Configurer under the Broadcast Data tab, check the "Enable" check box for WSJT and JTAlert. You don't need to use JTAlert for this - WSJT-X version 1.9 is able to send log data to N1MM+ directly without the help of JTAlert. In the contest setup, set the contest Mode to SSB+CW+DIGITAL.

In the Entry window, enable the Band Panel (right-click menu). Use the Band Panel buttons in N1MM+ to switch bands and modes for logging, and do the actual band and mode switching on the radio by hand - it will be up to you to keep the radio and the logging software in sync. Note that when you put the radio into Digital mode using the Band Panel buttons, N1MM+ will open the Digital Interface window and a digital engine window (e.g. MMVARI). You can minimize the DI window and the MMVARI window with the - icon at the right end of the title bars, as you won't actually be using those windows. In FT8 use WSJT-X to do everything - each time you log a contact in WSJT-X, the log data will be transferred to N1MM+ automatically.

If you need rig control in N1MM+, you have to find some way of sharing rig control between WSJT-X and N1MM+. Several people have had difficulty getting WSJT-X rig control to work through LP-Bridge, so an alternative way of sharing rig control might be a better way to go. The way I did it in June is described at <https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/35350>, which in turn leans heavily on the DXLab Suites documentation and involves more software, not just N1MM+ and WSJT-X. If you are not familiar with DXLab, that might be more complicated than you want - but it did allow me to switch modes quickly and easily without reconfiguring.

You mentioned the possibility of using two radios. That brings to mind a third potential solution, namely to configure N1MM+ for SO2R, with Radio 1 configured as a non-interfaced radio used for FT8 contacts from WSJT-X, and Radio 2, either interfaced or not, doing CW/SSB. There is a "gotcha" with this method - N1MM+ won't let you put both Entry windows onto the same band, so when you change modes on the same band, you will have to use the Band Panel buttons in both Entry windows to move Radio 1 to another band before moving Radio 2 onto the band that Radio 1 was using, and vice versa. This is not a configuration change, it just takes two mouse clicks.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 07:17 AM, David AD4TJ wrote:
 
More info: I had previously installed LPBridge, and had it sorta/kinda working, but still did not do exactly what I wanted to do, and, IIRC, stopped functioning after a few entries were made( but that is from memory from months ago ). Do I have to have JTAlertX running to have FT8 contacts logged to N1MM? I downloaded com0com but instructions to me are very vague.
 
I am after a way to log FT8 contacts, then easily and quickly switch to SSB or CW or FM to make more contacts. I know WSJTX does not do those modes, so somehow the connection between WSJTX and N1MM has to be broken or changed( right? ).
 
If WSJTX is still active, then the radio or N1MM will not like the attempts to, say, log an SSB contact on 50.125 while WSJTX is in the FT8 mode. I have received a couple of emails saying the N1MM configuration must be changed and WSJTX has to be shut down, but no complete details were given.
 
I have another radio that I can use to make SSB, CW, and FM contacts with, while leaving the TS-2000X for FT8 contacts, but N1MM is wanting the TS-2000 frequencies instead of allowing me to use the bands from the other radio( the other radio is not wired into the system, I would manually change bands and modes in N1MM ). It is looking like there is no easy way of doing what I want to do. That is one reason I only made 3 contacts in the contest over the weekend; the other is I had very little time to be on the radio.
 
Am I overlooking something, or is it out there somewhere that I have not looked at yet? Thanks again for all the help.
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
 
On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 11:55:39 PM EDT, Black Michael mdblack98@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:
 
 
 

 

Not sure what isn't working for you...you didn't quite explain that.
I assume you've enabled N1MM in Settings/Reporting in WSJT-X?
 
de Mike W9MDB
 
 
 
On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 9:23:16 PM CDT, David Tanks ad4tj@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:
 
 
 

 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.
 
Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
 
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Re: [wsjtgroup] WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

ve3ki
 

My first question would be, do you really need rig control from N1MM+? If not, the solution is simple. Configure WSJT-X to control the radio. Also, set it up to broadcast ADIF log data to N1MM+ (Settings window, Reporting tab, bottom of the window). Configure N1MM+ for "Manual" rig control (no serial port in the Configurer for rig control). You can still configure a port for CW for a Winkeyer or serial port keying, and also for hardware PTT control if you need it. In the N1MM+ Configurer under the Broadcast Data tab, check the "Enable" check box for WSJT and JTAlert. You don't need to use JTAlert for this - WSJT-X version 1.9 is able to send log data to N1MM+ directly without the help of JTAlert. In the contest setup, set the contest Mode to SSB+CW+DIGITAL.

In the Entry window, enable the Band Panel (right-click menu). Use the Band Panel buttons in N1MM+ to switch bands and modes for logging, and do the actual band and mode switching on the radio by hand - it will be up to you to keep the radio and the logging software in sync. Note that when you put the radio into Digital mode using the Band Panel buttons, N1MM+ will open the Digital Interface window and a digital engine window (e.g. MMVARI). You can minimize the DI window and the MMVARI window with the - icon at the right end of the title bars, as you won't actually be using those windows. In FT8 use WSJT-X to do everything - each time you log a contact in WSJT-X, the log data will be transferred to N1MM+ automatically.

If you need rig control in N1MM+, you have to find some way of sharing rig control between WSJT-X and N1MM+. Several people have had difficulty getting WSJT-X rig control to work through LP-Bridge, so an alternative way of sharing rig control might be a better way to go. The way I did it in June is described at <https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/35350>, which in turn leans heavily on the DXLab Suites documentation and involves more software, not just N1MM+ and WSJT-X. If you are not familiar with DXLab, that might be more complicated than you want - but it did allow me to switch modes quickly and easily without reconfiguring.

You mentioned the possibility of using two radios. That brings to mind a third potential solution, namely to configure N1MM+ for SO2R, with Radio 1 configured as a non-interfaced radio used for FT8 contacts from WSJT-X, and Radio 2, either interfaced or not, doing CW/SSB. There is a "gotcha" with this method - N1MM+ won't let you put both Entry windows onto the same band, so when you change modes on the same band, you will have to use the Band Panel buttons in both Entry windows to move Radio 1 to another band before moving Radio 2 onto the band that Radio 1 was using, and vice versa. This is not a configuration change, it just takes two mouse clicks.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 07:17 AM, David AD4TJ wrote:
 
More info: I had previously installed LPBridge, and had it sorta/kinda working, but still did not do exactly what I wanted to do, and, IIRC, stopped functioning after a few entries were made( but that is from memory from months ago ). Do I have to have JTAlertX running to have FT8 contacts logged to N1MM? I downloaded com0com but instructions to me are very vague.
 
I am after a way to log FT8 contacts, then easily and quickly switch to SSB or CW or FM to make more contacts. I know WSJTX does not do those modes, so somehow the connection between WSJTX and N1MM has to be broken or changed( right? ).
 
If WSJTX is still active, then the radio or N1MM will not like the attempts to, say, log an SSB contact on 50.125 while WSJTX is in the FT8 mode. I have received a couple of emails saying the N1MM configuration must be changed and WSJTX has to be shut down, but no complete details were given.
 
I have another radio that I can use to make SSB, CW, and FM contacts with, while leaving the TS-2000X for FT8 contacts, but N1MM is wanting the TS-2000 frequencies instead of allowing me to use the bands from the other radio( the other radio is not wired into the system, I would manually change bands and modes in N1MM ). It is looking like there is no easy way of doing what I want to do. That is one reason I only made 3 contacts in the contest over the weekend; the other is I had very little time to be on the radio.
 
Am I overlooking something, or is it out there somewhere that I have not looked at yet? Thanks again for all the help.
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
 
On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 11:55:39 PM EDT, Black Michael mdblack98@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:
 
 
 

 

Not sure what isn't working for you...you didn't quite explain that.
I assume you've enabled N1MM in Settings/Reporting in WSJT-X?
 
de Mike W9MDB
 
 
 
On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 9:23:16 PM CDT, David Tanks ad4tj@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:
 
 
 

 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.
 
Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.
 
73, David AD4TJ
 
 
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Re: [wsjtgroup] WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

David AD4TJ
 

More info: I had previously installed LPBridge, and had it sorta/kinda working, but still did not do exactly what I wanted to do, and, IIRC, stopped functioning after a few entries were made( but that is from memory from months ago ). Do I have to have JTAlertX running to have FT8 contacts logged to N1MM? I downloaded com0com but instructions to me are very vague.

I am after a way to log FT8 contacts, then easily and quickly switch to SSB or CW or FM to make more contacts. I know WSJTX does not do those modes, so somehow the connection between WSJTX and N1MM has to be broken or changed( right? ).

If WSJTX is still active, then the radio or N1MM will not like the attempts to, say, log an SSB contact on 50.125 while WSJTX is in the FT8 mode. I have received a couple of emails saying the N1MM configuration must be changed and WSJTX has to be shut down, but no complete details were given.

I have another radio that I can use to make SSB, CW, and FM contacts with, while leaving the TS-2000X for FT8 contacts, but N1MM is wanting the TS-2000 frequencies instead of allowing me to use the bands from the other radio( the other radio is not wired into the system, I would manually change bands and modes in N1MM ). It is looking like there is no easy way of doing what I want to do. That is one reason I only made 3 contacts in the contest over the weekend; the other is I had very little time to be on the radio.

Am I overlooking something, or is it out there somewhere that I have not looked at yet? Thanks again for all the help.

73, David AD4TJ


On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 11:55:39 PM EDT, Black Michael mdblack98@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:


 

Not sure what isn't working for you...you didn't quite explain that.
I assume you've enabled N1MM in Settings/Reporting in WSJT-X?

de Mike W9MDB



On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 9:23:16 PM CDT, David Tanks ad4tj@... [wsjtgroup] <wsjtgroup-noreply@...> wrote:


 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.

Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.

73, David AD4TJ

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Re: The best $18 you will ever spend

Larry K8UT
 

John,

Paragraphs describing bulk purchases with free CONUS shipping or cheap international shipping have been added to the Mortty Order Info page here:

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From: "John H. Long Jr." <john@...>
Sent: 2018-09-09 14:29:29
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] The best $18 you will ever spend

Using the order link for the Mortty, I don't see any mention of the free shipping of 10 kits.

What do I need to do for the free shipping?

Is the free shipping for anything over 10 kits or for each multiple of 10 kits?




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Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] The best $18 you will ever spend
From: "Tom - N1MM" <Tom@...>
Date: Sun, September 09, 2018 7:21 am
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

Saturday at the Boxboro Convention, I delivered the bulk of the 50+ Morttys ordered by YCCC members in a group buy I organized. 

Morttys can be configured to be a K3NG Winkey emulator or a TinyFSK interface. The purpose of both is basically the same - to offload timing-critical software to a dedicated Arduino processor so that you never have to worry about whether the speed or workload on your computer will affect CW or RTTY timing. 

These devices are one inch square by 2" long. They are small enough and cheap enough to throw in your luggage as backup on your dxpedition. 

They cost $18 + 7.20/package shipping for up to three in a box.  However, if you order 10, they will waive CONUS shipping, making the net cost $18/Mortty for a group buy. Contact K8UT for non-USA shipping.

The Mortty hardware was designed by our own K8UT and by N8AR and is very well done.  The build instructions would make the Heathkit manual team embarrassed.  They are that good. Simply look at the link below to see more.

Why don't YOU do a group buy for your club?  I would suggest a click-bait title like I used on this to make people read the email.  The compelling value proposition of the Mortty should do the rest.  The Mortty team is not Mouser Electronics, so please coordinate with them on any group buys and give them time to acquire parts if you are planning a large purchase. 

See http://hamprojects.info/mortty/ for details. 

K8UT and N8AR do not make a profit on the Morttys.  Be sure to thank them and the software authors, K3NG (Arduino CW Keyer) and K0SM (TinyFSK)

73,
Tom - N1MM 

Re: WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

alan@...
 

Hi David

 

Totally agree with your comments.

 

For us aging and non pc programmable types

 

A “setup video” on YouTube would be the most helpful way forward then we can stop and start the video and copy the setup step by step.

 

AlanH g8oo

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of David AD4TJ via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 September 2018 02:57
To: N1MM+; WSJT Group
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.

 

Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.

 

73, David AD4TJ

Re: N1MM and the ARRL 10 GHz and Up contest

Roger Rehr W3SZ
 

Hi Nick,

Thanks for doing this!

The scoring is incorrect.  By the rules, when a station (station A) goes to different location at least 10 miles (16 km) from prior locations, a new contact made from that new location by station A with another station (station B) previously worked from the old location counts for distance scoring but not for QSO points. [Rule 5.3 here:  http://www.arrl.org/10-ghz-up ].

But the experimental version of N1MM scoring incorrectly gives zero distance points to all subsequent contacts by station A with station B after the initial contact on a given band band regardless of the distance that station A has moved between contacts.  The experimental version of N1MM Scoring does correctly give 0 QSO points for subsequent contacts between A and B on the same band.

See the 3 w2sz contacts in the attached image.

The contact in FN33AA should give 348 points and the contact in FN44AA should give 532 points.

The other distance scores are correct except for a possible small calculation error that will be noted below.

The total distance score is thus incorrectly calculated as 970 when it should be 970 + 348 + 532 = 1850.

The total score should thus be 1850 + 700 = 2550 but it is incorrectly calculated as 970 + 700 = 1670.

Scoring for contacts on multiple bands with the same station works as it should.

In checking distance scoring for a contact between FN20ag and FN33aa, WinGrid gives 347.9 which would be 348 but N1MM gives 349.  The algorithm that I used in my AircraftScatterSharp program gives 347.91, in agreement with WinGrid and different than N1MM. WSJTX also calculates 348, in agreement with WinGrid and AircraftScatterSharp and different than N1MM.  This suggests that there may be a small error in this algorithm in N1MM which slightly affects scoring, unless the other 3 programs are all wrong.  My algorithm was not sourced from either WinGrid or WSJTX.

The online calculator below DOES give 348.01, which would round (using Math.Ceiling) to 349 in agreement with your calculation:
https://www.chris.org/cgi-bin/finddis

The online calculator below gives 347.999, which rounds to 348, in agreement with the first 3 sources and not in agreement with N1MM's calculation:
https://www.karhukoti.com/grid/?grid=IL

A tiny point is that "September" is misspelled as "Septebmer" in the contest name as shown on the title bar of the log window.

I hope that the above helps, Nick!

Thanks again for all that you do, and

73,

Roger
W3SZ

On 9/9/2018 1:02 PM, NA3M Nick wrote:
Experimental version for ARRL10GHZ and Up contest is available here:

http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=20

Please test it and direct email me if problems found.
Notes:

Contest name - ARRL10GHZ.
Set the bands in the EW using Change Band Panel display option.
Column M1 in the Log window is not really a multiplier, it is used to add 100 points for every unique callsign on each band.

If you already made contest QSOs in the first weekend in August you can add them manually (enter QSO, edit time and date).

Nick NA3M

Re: SO2V(R) operators using 2 keyboards: Help test unreleased feature: Show the most recent text cursor position in the inactive EntryWindow

Andy (KU7T)
 

Btw, here is video that shows this in action: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiAwh4TnZjYMhoE11i3wwNVkZLtnTQ

So, if you use SO2V(R) with 2 keyboards and think you would use this, please see message above how to test.

Thanks and 73,
Andy
KU7T

Re: WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

Terry Glagowski / W1TR / AFA1DI
 

I simply entered the FT8 QSOs manually and then edited the contact MODE to be FT8 instead of SSB.

I know there is an interface but didn’t get it working yet.

Too bad the log doesn’t have the MODE column so this editing is easier.

ALSO… too bad the callsign entry field doesn’t accept CTRL+V or PASTE so you can copy the field from the WSJT software instead of phat phinger typing.

 

73, Terry / W1TR  :  )

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of David AD4TJ via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 21:57
To: N1MM+ <n1mmloggerplus@groups.io>; WSJT Group <wsjtgroup@...>
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.

 

Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.

 

73, David AD4TJ

SO2V(R) operators using 2 keyboards: Help test unreleased feature: Show the most recent text cursor position in the inactive EntryWindow

Andy (KU7T)
 

Hi,
If you use N1MM+ with 2 Entrywindows and 2 keyboards hooked up to one computer, please read on. Otherwise, you may ignore this email.
 
I have been working on a new feature together with Steve, N2IC and John, K3CT. I would like to verify with some operators how well this works. 
 
Feature overview:
Today, while using 2 EntryWindows, it is hard to know where your focus WAS in the other non-focussed window. To know this can be very benefitial, because the next key you press on the "other keyboard" would continue typing where the focus was. But if you do not know where you were or even in which text box you left off, it is hard. 
 
The operating systen only puts a text cursor into the one active form. With this new feature the application paints the cursor in the inactive EW as an outline (non-filled rectangle). That is so it looks different from the cursor in the active EW which the Operating System paints automatically.
 
The feature can be disabled. In that case, no cursor should be painted in the inactive EW (like before).
The default setting is ON.  The setting is a global setting and persists in the INI.
 
I have used this with WPX-MorseRunner, CWOps and CWOpen contests for far. 
 
If you wnat to help, please download the experimental version "N1MM Logger+ Update 1.0.7268.1" from here: http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=20 
 
 
Look out for these things:
1. Does the text cursor always paint correctly in the "other" entry window in the position of the last cursor?
2. Does the disabling work correctly via Configurer/Others?
3. Any other issues/feedback?
 
For questions or feedback, just email me directly at "[org] dot [ku7t] at [ku7t]"
 
Thanks and 73,
Andy
KU7T
 

WSJTX, N1MM+, CW and SSB and FM Contacts

David AD4TJ
 

Ok, I need some help. It seems everybody but me have figured out how to interface WSJTX and N1MM+ together so FT8 contacts can be logged, then switch to CW or SSB or FM and have them logged in N1MM+ also. Is there an EASY way to get this done? If you have been successful I sure would like to hear how you did it. I have searched but have not found anything but complicated methods, involving add-on programs and different configurations. Thanks in advance.

Equipment here: TS-2000X, Rigblaster Advantage, WSJTX 1.9.1, latest N1MM+ version.

73, David AD4TJ