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Re: Windows Audio Chimes

ve3ki
 

Whether your account has administrator-level privileges or user-level privileges was not the issue I was referring to. Actually, that makes no difference. What I was referring to was running either program while giving the program itself elevated privileges ("Run as Administrator"), which can be done from any account including user-level accounts. You should not do that for normal program operation. Programs run with elevated privileges and programs run with normal privileges cannot communicate properly with each other, which is why you should not "run as administrator" except in certain rare and generally temporary situations (like running a program that registers a DLL - this is a one-time-only operation).

So, there is no need to uninstall from the administrator account and reinstall as a user - that won't change anything.

Instead, you have mentioned another issue which makes it sound possible that the chimes you are hearing are a result of the fact that your user files area is in the wrong place. This new issue may require an uninstall/reinstall, but not because of anything to do with account privileges.

You said that you have to go to OneDrive to get to your user files. This is not good for a couple of reasons: If you lose Internet connection, even briefly, the program may fail to work; having the log database in the cloud risks loss of contacts if there is any problem with internet access; and syncing the database files with OneDrive (or Google Drive, or Dropbox) while the program is running can corrupt your database file. The user file area where all of the user files are stored should be on your hard drive or SSD, not in OneDrive. This user file area won't normally be in the Windows "appdata" folder, though - by default, the N1MM+ full installer creates the user file area in your Documents folder in a folder called N1MM Logger+.

If you want to be able to use today's update, I believe you will have to make a backup copy of your existing user file area to a safe place such as a thumb drive, uninstall the program, remove the existing user file area from OneDrive, reinstall the program from the full installer making sure that the user file area is installed on your local HD or SSD and not on OneDrive, run the latest updater, and then restore your user files from the backup. You will also have to make sure that none of the program or file paths in your configuration points to a location in OneDrive - all of the file paths should point to locations on your HD or SSD (none of the paths should have "onedrive" or "google drive" or "dropbox" anywhere in the path name).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Bud Governale wrote:
"Make sure neither Gritty nor N1MM+ is being run "as Administrator" - they should both be run normally."
Rich Ve3KI
 
Rich,
 
N1MM+ was installed on the new computer when I was logged in as Administrator.
This may be the cause for the gremlins.
To get to the N1MM+ files such as Export Files I have to go via "onedrive" and not appdata.
 
The chimes work around as suggested by many is to turn of Windows alerts. I did and this solves the chimes problem with a temporary bandaid.
 
After RTTY RU I plan to uninstall N1MM+, after photographing all configuration settings, and reinstall as a User.
 
73,
 
Bud W3LL

new member and interfacing with Hygain DCU3

Tom
 
Edited

I am trying this for the first time with Win4IcomSuite. PSTRotator and and DXlab. Got the spots running and the spectrum analyzer following Win4Icom suite spectrum as well. Now trying to get the Hygain rotor to follow along with PSTRotator as well. Seems a bit more of a challenge. Thanks for the acceptance in the group and thanks for the software N1MM.

Happy new year to all

73 de NB2A
Tom

Re: Windows Audio Chimes

Bud Governale
 

"Make sure neither Gritty nor N1MM+ is being run "as Administrator" - they should both be run normally."
Rich Ve3KI

Rich,

N1MM+ was installed on the new computer when I was logged in as Administrator.
This may be the cause for the gremlins.
To get to the N1MM+ files such as Export Files I have to go via "onedrive" and not appdata.

The chimes work around as suggested by many is to turn of Windows alerts. I did and this solves the chimes problem with a temporary bandaid.

After RTTY RU I plan to uninstall N1MM+, after photographing all configuration settings, and reinstall as a User.

73,

Bud W3LL

Re: Radio not responding error

Ted Bryant
 

Good. Then there is likely a configuration mismatch somewhere, Peter.  Verify that all the com ports, starting with the radio through the ports in N1MM+, all have the same bit rate, data bits, stop bits and parity.  Also, make sure the hex address in the radio matches what you have in N1MM+.  Are the N1MM com port DTR/RTS settings set correctly?

 

73, Ted W4NZ

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Lock
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 6:28 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Radio not responding error

 

Yes, it does create virtual ports, all of which are shown in Device Manager as operating correctly; the com port numbers are the same in MKII as in N1MM+.
73 HNY
Peter M0RYB
On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 05:40 PM, Ted Bryant wrote:

Doesn’t the MKII interface create virtual com ports?  Have you checked Windows Device Manager to see that these ports are really there?  And that the com port numbers Windows assigns are the same port numbers you’ve configured in N1MM+?

 

73  es HNY,

Ted W4NZ

 

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:57 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Radio not responding error

 

Peter,

Sorry my idea didn't help. Perhaps other group members can offer some ideas.

I think the web interface has a way to quote the original message when you reply. I do not use the web interface and so do not know what the trick is. Perhaps someone else can help with that as well.

Happy New Year and good luck getting it going!

Steve, K8JQ

On 12/31/2018 5:41 PM, Peter Lock wrote:

It would be helpful if your post included the note to which you are responding. I assume the response below is to my inquiry regarding the "usual radio".

You might verify that the Icom CI-V address is correct for the IC-7800. Your original post suggests you may be "Using the same parameters . . . " for the IC-7800 as for the "E" radio. If so, that's a problem.

Steve, K8JQ, apologies; I had clicked on 'Reply' below your post thinking it would be tagged there - new to these forums.  "Using the same parameters..." refers to those in the MKII interface software, so the settings in N1MM+ and the MKII are identical, and to answer your specific query, yes, the CI-V address is correct (6A).  I do not use the MKII with the Elecraft as it has its own USB interface.  Sorry for the confusion.
Peter M0RYB

 

 

locked Re: New Version

Tom - N1MM
 

Version 1.0.7422 (January 1, 2019)
  • External Lookup UDP: Fixing the UDP XML data, so multiplier status is correctly set (N9ADG) (Coded by KU7T)
  • Corrected Cabrillo when no e-mail address provided. Validated e-mail address in station info form. (Coded by N2IC)
  • Program startup: Showing warning message when user folder or INI file is stored in a location that may be synced to the cloud (Coded by KU7T)
  • Full installer: Preventing installation of user folder to a location that may be synced to the cloud (Coded by KU7T)
  • Solve internationalization problem with handling of "=" key. (HB9BUN) (Coded by N1MM)
  • Digital: Many changes to add better support for FT8 Including:
    • 1.Adds new window showing WSJT CQ Message decodes based on Mult color. Note this must be opened for Message   interactions between N1MM and WSJT. Located under Windows\WSJT Decode List. This is not used for Logging that is still setup on the Broadcast Data Tab.(Coded by N2AMG)
    • 2.While Band list is open, N1MM will color each CQ Message Callsign in WSJT's Decode window based on N1MM's mult status. (Coded by N2AMG)
    • 3.When a Callsign is located in WSJT DX Call window it will be placed in N1MM's Entry window in Mult color (Coded by N2AMG)
    • 4.Clicking on row in Band List details window will place call in WSJT DXCall window and WSJT will be set to make contact.
    • 5.If no radio is active in N1MM when connected to WSJT WSJT will send frequency data into N1MM for frequency control.
    • Note: Both JTAlert and N1MM cannot run at the same time and recieve proper messages from WSJT.The first program loaded takes control.
    • Also I have only worked with WSJT. I have not done anything reading the messages from JTDX the messages are similar but not exact.
  • UDC: New argument for Points parameter: MyGrid, nnn - give nnn points for Q's with the same Grid as mine (for VHF/UHF contests only)

Re: Radio not responding error

Peter M0RYB
 

Yes, it does create virtual ports, all of which are shown in Device Manager as operating correctly; the com port numbers are the same in MKII as in N1MM+.
73 HNY
Peter M0RYB

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 05:40 PM, Ted Bryant wrote:

Doesn’t the MKII interface create virtual com ports?  Have you checked Windows Device Manager to see that these ports are really there?  And that the com port numbers Windows assigns are the same port numbers you’ve configured in N1MM+?

 

73  es HNY,

Ted W4NZ

 

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:57 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Radio not responding error

 

Peter,

Sorry my idea didn't help. Perhaps other group members can offer some ideas.

I think the web interface has a way to quote the original message when you reply. I do not use the web interface and so do not know what the trick is. Perhaps someone else can help with that as well.

Happy New Year and good luck getting it going!

Steve, K8JQ

On 12/31/2018 5:41 PM, Peter Lock wrote:

It would be helpful if your post included the note to which you are responding. I assume the response below is to my inquiry regarding the "usual radio".

You might verify that the Icom CI-V address is correct for the IC-7800. Your original post suggests you may be "Using the same parameters . . . " for the IC-7800 as for the "E" radio. If so, that's a problem.

Steve, K8JQ, apologies; I had clicked on 'Reply' below your post thinking it would be tagged there - new to these forums.  "Using the same parameters..." refers to those in the MKII interface software, so the settings in N1MM+ and the MKII are identical, and to answer your specific query, yes, the CI-V address is correct (6A).  I do not use the MKII with the Elecraft as it has its own USB interface.  Sorry for the confusion.
Peter M0RYB

 

 

Re: Windows Audio Chimes

Jim W7RY
 

Bud.....

Go into control panel and set your PC for no sounds. That will turn it off.

If you use the sound card in the PC to send AFSK, that is the only way to have it set. You don't want SSB modulation to go out on frequencies not allowed to do so.


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 12/31/2018 7:22 PM, Bud Governale wrote:

I'm setting up for RTTY RU this weekend on a new computer.

Issue is Gritty decoder operating thru N1MM+ sends a chime tone to my speakers at the start of each and every new decoded line.
This doesn't happen if I turn off N1MM+ and go directly to the location where N1MM+ is configured to find Gritty and start Gritty there.
Gritty opens as a stand alone and does not ever send chimes to the speakers.

The chime is indicative of windows or program alert.

I have two sound cards to ensure none of the annoyances get to the transmitter audio.
There's USB Audio Codec which is an external Tascam and the internal Realtek source.

If I physically turn off the speakers and use the headset there are no annoying chimes.
This is a crutch workaround.

Somewhere there must be a setup error but I can't find it.

Need suggestive help please. 

73,

Bud W3LL

Re: SARTG HNY contest

Les Elliott
 

In your macro, Phil
 
Les, G4OGB
 

Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 8:53 AM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerPlus] SARTG HNY contest
 
Hi all,

Playing (or trying to) in the SARTGNY contest, but how the heck do you enter the name and greeting? I can get the name into the box, but not the greeting.
It's puzzling me...

73 de Phil GU0SUP

Re: SARTG HNY contest

Phil Cooper
 

Magic! Thankyou Vilnis....

73 es HNY de Phil GU0SUP

-----Original Message-----
From: "Vilnis YL2KF" <yl2kf@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January, 2019 09:05
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] SARTG HNY contest

Hi Phil .

Just serial and name needed for log checking.
HNY message only on air, not need to be in log.
Include HNY in Cab file soapbox line.

73 de YL2KF , Vilnis


On 01.01.2019 10:53, Phil Cooper wrote:
Hi all,

Playing (or trying to) in the SARTGNY contest, but how the heck do you
enter the name and greeting? I can get the name into the box, but not
the greeting.
It's puzzling me...

73 de Phil GU0SUP

Re: SARTG HNY contest

Vilnis YL2KF
 

Hi Phil .

Just serial and name needed for log checking.
HNY message only on air, not need to be in log.
Include HNY in Cab file soapbox line.

73 de YL2KF , Vilnis
 

On 01.01.2019 10:53, Phil Cooper wrote:
Hi all,

Playing (or trying to) in the SARTGNY contest, but how the heck do you enter the name and greeting? I can get the name into the box, but not the greeting.
It's puzzling me...

73 de Phil GU0SUP

Re: N1MM & N3FJP

KEN
 

Hi Lu,

Thank you for  a response to my question. 

With work and some unexpected holiday visitors it may be a few days before I can again  focus on  my file problem.

Regards,

Ken     WN8Y

SARTG HNY contest

Phil Cooper
 

Hi all,

Playing (or trying to) in the SARTGNY contest, but how the heck do you enter the name and greeting? I can get the name into the box, but not the greeting.
It's puzzling me...

73 de Phil GU0SUP

Re: Windows Audio Chimes

ve3ki
 

OK, you have two sound cards, one of which is connected to the transceiver (including the transmitter if you are using AFSK) and the other of which is the Windows default sound card. You have probably already done this, but you can check in Windows to make sure that none of its defaults (record or playback, sounds or communications) is set to use the same sound card as the transceiver. Windows has a habit of moving its defaults around; you shouldn't necessarily assume that because everything was OK before a Windows update or before unplugging or plugging in a USB device, it will still be OK afterwards.

You could turn Windows sounds off entirely, but that would just mask the symptoms, and you might have valid reasons for wanting to hear alerts from Windows for other problems. The question remains, why does Windows think it needs to alert you in the first place?

One thing you should be aware of is that the Gritty configuration when it is run stand-alone is in a separate file from when it is run from within N1MM+. Perhaps there is something wrong in the inside-N1MM+ configuration but not in the stand-alone configuration. You could try comparing the two to see if there are any differences.

Alternatively, the program that is raising the error condition might not be Gritty, it might be N1MM+. One diagnostic test you might try would be to uncheck the "Enable Attached RX Windows" option in N1MM+, and then adjust the width of Gritty's separate RX window in N1MM+ so that it is very different from the width of the Gritty window itself. Are the errors being raised whenever Gritty wraps to a new line, whenever the N1MM+ RX window wraps to a new line, or only when the received RTTY text includes CR/LF characters that force a new line in both places?

If you normally use attached RX windows, is the one that receives text from Gritty tall enough to contain at least one full line of text? In the main DI window, do you have it set for a non-scrolling display or a scrolling display? If it is non-scrolling, what happens if you switch it to scrolling - does the problem still occur?

Make sure neither Gritty nor N1MM+ is being run "as Administrator" - they should both be run normally.

That's about run me out of suggestions for now - does something in here help?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 08:22 PM, Bud Governale wrote:
I'm setting up for RTTY RU this weekend on a new computer.
 
Issue is Gritty decoder operating thru N1MM+ sends a chime tone to my speakers at the start of each and every new decoded line.
This doesn't happen if I turn off N1MM+ and go directly to the location where N1MM+ is configured to find Gritty and start Gritty there.
Gritty opens as a stand alone and does not ever send chimes to the speakers.
 
The chime is indicative of windows or program alert.
 
I have two sound cards to ensure none of the annoyances get to the transmitter audio.
There's USB Audio Codec which is an external Tascam and the internal Realtek source.
 
If I physically turn off the speakers and use the headset there are no annoying chimes.
This is a crutch workaround.
 
Somewhere there must be a setup error but I can't find it.
 
Need suggestive help please. 
 
73,
 
Bud W3LL

Re: N1MM & N3FJP

KEN
 

Hi Drew,

Thank you for your recent reply to my problem.  Back to work and some holiday visitors showed up  . So it may be a few days before I can get back to my file problem.

73,       Ken WN8Y

Re: N1MM & N3FJP

KEN
 

Hi Bob,
Thanks for your recent reply. It is good to know you are there.

Work and recent  additional holiday visitors will delay my attention for a few days before  i can give it my program files.

Regards 

Ken  WN8Y

Re: Radio not responding error

Ted Bryant
 

Doesn’t the MKII interface create virtual com ports?  Have you checked Windows Device Manager to see that these ports are really there?  And that the com port numbers Windows assigns are the same port numbers you’ve configured in N1MM+?

 

73  es HNY,

Ted W4NZ

 

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:57 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerPlus] Radio not responding error

 

Peter,

Sorry my idea didn't help. Perhaps other group members can offer some ideas.

I think the web interface has a way to quote the original message when you reply. I do not use the web interface and so do not know what the trick is. Perhaps someone else can help with that as well.

Happy New Year and good luck getting it going!

Steve, K8JQ

On 12/31/2018 5:41 PM, Peter Lock wrote:

It would be helpful if your post included the note to which you are responding. I assume the response below is to my inquiry regarding the "usual radio".

You might verify that the Icom CI-V address is correct for the IC-7800. Your original post suggests you may be "Using the same parameters . . . " for the IC-7800 as for the "E" radio. If so, that's a problem.

Steve, K8JQ, apologies; I had clicked on 'Reply' below your post thinking it would be tagged there - new to these forums.  "Using the same parameters..." refers to those in the MKII interface software, so the settings in N1MM+ and the MKII are identical, and to answer your specific query, yes, the CI-V address is correct (6A).  I do not use the MKII with the Elecraft as it has its own USB interface.  Sorry for the confusion.
Peter M0RYB

 

Re: Radio not responding error

ve3ki
 

When you click on reply in the groups.io web interface, at the left end of the toolbar or ribbon or whatever they call it just above where you type, there is a balloon. Click on that balloon and the previous message will be quoted at the top of your message. If you want to top post, as most of us do, click on the button first, and then click at the very beginning of the message and start typing there.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 07:56 PM, Steve wrote:
Peter,

Sorry my idea didn't help. Perhaps other group members can offer some ideas.

I think the web interface has a way to quote the original message when you reply. I do not use the web interface and so do not know what the trick is. Perhaps someone else can help with that as well.

Happy New Year and good luck getting it going!

Steve, K8JQ

On 12/31/2018 5:41 PM, Peter Lock wrote:
It would be helpful if your post included the note to which you are responding. I assume the response below is to my inquiry regarding the "usual radio".

You might verify that the Icom CI-V address is correct for the IC-7800. Your original post suggests you may be "Using the same parameters . . . " for the IC-7800 as for the "E" radio. If so, that's a problem.

Steve, K8JQ, apologies; I had clicked on 'Reply' below your post thinking it would be tagged there - new to these forums.  "Using the same parameters..." refers to those in the MKII interface software, so the settings in N1MM+ and the MKII are identical, and to answer your specific query, yes, the CI-V address is correct (6A).  I do not use the MKII with the Elecraft as it has its own USB interface.  Sorry for the confusion.
Peter M0RYB

Windows Audio Chimes

Bud Governale
 

I'm setting up for RTTY RU this weekend on a new computer.

Issue is Gritty decoder operating thru N1MM+ sends a chime tone to my speakers at the start of each and every new decoded line.
This doesn't happen if I turn off N1MM+ and go directly to the location where N1MM+ is configured to find Gritty and start Gritty there.
Gritty opens as a stand alone and does not ever send chimes to the speakers.

The chime is indicative of windows or program alert.

I have two sound cards to ensure none of the annoyances get to the transmitter audio.
There's USB Audio Codec which is an external Tascam and the internal Realtek source.

If I physically turn off the speakers and use the headset there are no annoying chimes.
This is a crutch workaround.

Somewhere there must be a setup error but I can't find it.

Need suggestive help please. 

73,

Bud W3LL

Re: Radio not responding error

Steve K8JQ
 

Peter,

Sorry my idea didn't help. Perhaps other group members can offer some ideas.

I think the web interface has a way to quote the original message when you reply. I do not use the web interface and so do not know what the trick is. Perhaps someone else can help with that as well.

Happy New Year and good luck getting it going!

Steve, K8JQ

On 12/31/2018 5:41 PM, Peter Lock wrote:
It would be helpful if your post included the note to which you are responding. I assume the response below is to my inquiry regarding the "usual radio".

You might verify that the Icom CI-V address is correct for the IC-7800. Your original post suggests you may be "Using the same parameters . . . " for the IC-7800 as for the "E" radio. If so, that's a problem.

Steve, K8JQ, apologies; I had clicked on 'Reply' below your post thinking it would be tagged there - new to these forums.  "Using the same parameters..." refers to those in the MKII interface software, so the settings in N1MM+ and the MKII are identical, and to answer your specific query, yes, the CI-V address is correct (6A).  I do not use the MKII with the Elecraft as it has its own USB interface.  Sorry for the confusion.
Peter M0RYB

Windows 7 Sound Control Disappeared

Eliot Mayer, W1MJ
 

I restored Windows 7 on my Dell PC due to file corruption.  Somewhere during the course of reinstalling apps, Windows Control Panel / Sound stopped functioning.  The Volume Control still functions, but nothing happens now when I try to open Recording Devices or Playback Devices.  I thought that the culprit might have been Actual Solutions Power Mixer, but I just ruled that out.  I rolled back a ways, got Sound working again, and now it just disappeared again without reinstalling Power Mixer.  The last thing that I did was install the latest N1MM+ and MMTTY, and got it configured for RTTY.  Any ideas what went wrong, and how to prevent it from happening again?  Thanks and HNY DE W1MJ.