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Re: BARTG RTTY Contest Exchange

Jamie WW3S
 

We’ve seen it for years now, and MM has supported it from the beginning....TIME2......and make sure you chose bartgsrtty, not bartgrttys for contest type....


On Mar 18, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Rory Bowers <k6cks01@...> wrote:

I was just reading that the upcoming BARTG RTTY contest this weekend will require a new exchange that we haven't seen before... RST SN and Time Value.  Not sure what that means.  Will there be an update that will support this or do we need to create a new shortcut key?
Thanks and Happy DXing!
Rory, K5CKS


Re: BARTG RTTY Contest Exchange

Mike ND9G
 

Add {TIME2} to your F2/exchange macro and it will send the time.


73,
Mike ND9G


On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 7:16 AM Rory Bowers <k6cks01@...> wrote:
I was just reading that the upcoming BARTG RTTY contest this weekend will require a new exchange that we haven't seen before... RST SN and Time Value.  Not sure what that means.  Will there be an update that will support this or do we need to create a new shortcut key?
Thanks and Happy DXing!
Rory, K5CKS


Re: SENDING de

philip m woods
 

HI FOLKS
THANKS FOR ALL THE EMAILS NOW WORKING
73 Philip GM0LIR MM2T

On 17 March 2020 at 22:30 K4GM-George <k4gm@...> wrote:

edit the function keys.

On 3/17/2020 5:16 PM, philip m woods via Groups.Io wrote:

Hello

I wonder if any one can help me !?

when using F keys  at the end of the message the program is sending in morse de

how do i stop this ?


HELP

73 Philip GM0LIR



 

 


Re: SENDING de

philip m woods
 

Hi Les (G4OGB)
thanks for the help now fixed
73 Philip GM0LIR MM2T

On 18 March 2020 at 09:14 "Les Elliott via Groups.Io" <g4ogb@...> wrote:

I guess you are using MMVARI
In the DI Window, click Setup>MMVARI tab
In the bottom right corner, deselect ‘Enable’  (Cw Id)
Les, G4OGB
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:16 PM
Subject: [N1MM+] SENDING de
 

Hello

I wonder if any one can help me !?

when using F keys  at the end of the message the program is sending in morse de

how do i stop this ?

 

HELP

73 Philip GM0LIR


 

 


Re: BARTG RTTY Contest Exchange

Jim W7RY
 

Bartg has been using this exchange WAY before N1MM was around. At least 1985...


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 3/18/2020 7:16 AM, Rory Bowers wrote:

I was just reading that the upcoming BARTG RTTY contest this weekend will require a new exchange that we haven't seen before... RST SN and Time Value.  Not sure what that means.  Will there be an update that will support this or do we need to create a new shortcut key?
Thanks and Happy DXing!
Rory, K5CKS


BARTG RTTY Contest Exchange

Rory Bowers
 

I was just reading that the upcoming BARTG RTTY contest this weekend will require a new exchange that we haven't seen before... RST SN and Time Value.  Not sure what that means.  Will there be an update that will support this or do we need to create a new shortcut key?
Thanks and Happy DXing!
Rory, K5CKS


Re: N1MM SSB TX Macro

John Bednar
 

Tom,

 

If you are sending digital audio (PCM) to the remote TS-590 radio codec, the modulator needs to be switched to the PCM stream. Before sending a wav file, our software keys the radio with the proper command.    

 

Use this Cat Macro command to key the radio and switch the modulator input:

{CAT1ASC TX1;}

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: Thomas Rieff [mailto:k0yr.tr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:44 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io; K3CT - John Bednar
Subject: Re: N1MM SSB TX Macro

 

John,

Thanks for the reply...

I am using N1MM as my main operating software for my remote system at the home qth. In CW and RTTY, PTT is handled ok, but when I am using SSB, {TX} in a macro will not trigger a PTT situation, so I have used a F11 with a  empty.wav file to turn on transmit side of the TS590 and then the audio is delivered from the remote side. This has some latency and a little grabage on the audio when it is first keyed. A suggestion from Robert, N7WY was to use an actual CAT command...so will give that a try. Will need to research what the command is for the TS590.

Looking for some work-arounds :-)

Tom, K0YR

 


K0YR
C/O Thomas Rieff
2059 Sundance Lane
North Mankato, MN 56001

(507) 381-0660 Cell


Re: SENDING de

Les Elliott
 

I guess you are using MMVARI
In the DI Window, click Setup>MMVARI tab
In the bottom right corner, deselect ‘Enable’  (Cw Id)
Les, G4OGB
 

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:16 PM
Subject: [N1MM+] SENDING de
 

Hello

I wonder if any one can help me !?

when using F keys  at the end of the message the program is sending in morse de

how do i stop this ?

 

HELP

73 Philip GM0LIR


Re: Telnet clusters rating

Larry K8UT
 

Chuck,

>What is the criteria for a cluster to make the list?  10 users or 10 connections?
10 reports of successful connection to your server (10 users 1 time; 1 user 10 times) and at least a 75% ratio of successful connections to failed connections (if your users report 100 successes and also 26 failed connections you will not be listed)

oh... and obviously your users need to update to this version of N1MM+ and must opt-in to participate.

There have been 707 reports from N1MM users since the new version was announced. Two of those connected successfully to K9LC. 

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "chuck.gooden" <chuck.gooden@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 19:51:12
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

Larry,

What is the criteria for a cluster to make the list?  10 users or 10 connections?

I have a cluster and a skimmer running here in Northern Illinois.  The cluster was recently set up with a Red Pitaya skimmer that is handling all CW and RTTY signals on all ham bands 6M and below.

Users of my cluster have the option of turning on and off the skimmer spots that I am reporting to the RBN so locations of clusters do matter.

If any would like like to connect the URL is K9LC.ddns.net:7300  The cluster is running 24/7 and is located in Rockford, IL  I'd would appreciate it if users would connect so I make the list and get more users.

Chuck K9LC


On 3/17/2020 5:03 PM, Larry K8UT wrote:
Hi Al

oops! A little detail that I have not made explicitly clear:

The continent is NOT the location of the cluster server. The continent is the location of the hams who are reporting that they use a specific cluster. Thus when you see the NA listings, these are clusters - wherever they may be - that North American hams are using successfully.

For example, scroll through the list and look for DXFUN.COM. I have no idea where DXFUN is located, but Hams in NA, EU and SA are connecting to it and meeting the 10@75% criteria.

If you think about it - you don't really care where a cluster is located, you only care that folks around you are using it.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Al Groff via Groups.Io" <al.k0vm@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 14:19:59
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

Larry,
   Thanks for the live cluster list... 
  I note at least a couple of clusters listed at NA may be else where based on call sign in cluster name and/or ip name ( .de )
  I think it might be useful  if the list included some type of location information for the clusters location ( state, grid... ) , but realize that might not be readily available.
  AL, K0VM

On 3/17/2020 12:08 PM, Larry K8UT wrote:
Hi Vytenis

We did not want to directly rate the clusters against each other, because of the risk of everyone overwhelming the top-ranked site at the expense of all other sites. Instead, we established a set of parameters that we consider to be the line between acceptable and unacceptable performance.

As we collect more data and analyze trends perhaps we can establish a grading scheme and categorize sites by grades: A, B, C.. But at this v1.0 point we are comfortable presenting a list via the following:
  • We do not poll any servers
  • You send anonymous telnet connection results to a website database, which it throttles at the most recent 60,000 reports
  • That raw database is "fresh" in that it is always the most recent reports submitted by N1MM users
  • When you open the >Clusters tab of the Telnet Dialog Window and press the Live Cluster List down-arrow, the server generates a summary for you in real-time
  • That real-time summary analyzes the raw data by continent, and for each continent gives you an alphabet list of sites that have 1) at least 10 reports of successful connections and 2) a success/fail ratio of at least 75%
Is 10 successful reports the right minimum? Is 75% success the right ratio? Should we be trending for more (or less) than the last 60,000 reports? I don't know the answer to those questions, yet. But there is nothing to prevent some fine-tuning in the future.

Finally - from a "raw data" to a "summary list" standpoint: as of two minutes ago, N1MM users had submitted reports on 665 cluster sites. But only 135 of those  meet the criteria and are included in the drop-down list.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Vytenis LY5T" <vytenis.sciucka@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 10:31:23
Subject: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

I didn't really understand how this works. I installed new version and see new dropdown box with servers listed, but they are listed by alphabet and not some rating.
If ratings are assigned to clusters - how can I see them? Can I sort by rating? How rankings are given? Or, is this list just a semi real time polled list of live servers?
Additional information will be appreciated.

73 Vytenis
LY5T


Re: Telnet clusters rating

chuck.gooden
 

Larry,

What is the criteria for a cluster to make the list?  10 users or 10 connections?

I have a cluster and a skimmer running here in Northern Illinois.  The cluster was recently set up with a Red Pitaya skimmer that is handling all CW and RTTY signals on all ham bands 6M and below.

Users of my cluster have the option of turning on and off the skimmer spots that I am reporting to the RBN so locations of clusters do matter.

If any would like like to connect the URL is K9LC.ddns.net:7300  The cluster is running 24/7 and is located in Rockford, IL  I'd would appreciate it if users would connect so I make the list and get more users.

Chuck K9LC


On 3/17/2020 5:03 PM, Larry K8UT wrote:
Hi Al

oops! A little detail that I have not made explicitly clear:

The continent is NOT the location of the cluster server. The continent is the location of the hams who are reporting that they use a specific cluster. Thus when you see the NA listings, these are clusters - wherever they may be - that North American hams are using successfully.

For example, scroll through the list and look for DXFUN.COM. I have no idea where DXFUN is located, but Hams in NA, EU and SA are connecting to it and meeting the 10@75% criteria.

If you think about it - you don't really care where a cluster is located, you only care that folks around you are using it.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Al Groff via Groups.Io" <al.k0vm@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 14:19:59
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

Larry,
   Thanks for the live cluster list... 
  I note at least a couple of clusters listed at NA may be else where based on call sign in cluster name and/or ip name ( .de )
  I think it might be useful  if the list included some type of location information for the clusters location ( state, grid... ) , but realize that might not be readily available.
  AL, K0VM

On 3/17/2020 12:08 PM, Larry K8UT wrote:
Hi Vytenis

We did not want to directly rate the clusters against each other, because of the risk of everyone overwhelming the top-ranked site at the expense of all other sites. Instead, we established a set of parameters that we consider to be the line between acceptable and unacceptable performance.

As we collect more data and analyze trends perhaps we can establish a grading scheme and categorize sites by grades: A, B, C.. But at this v1.0 point we are comfortable presenting a list via the following:
  • We do not poll any servers
  • You send anonymous telnet connection results to a website database, which it throttles at the most recent 60,000 reports
  • That raw database is "fresh" in that it is always the most recent reports submitted by N1MM users
  • When you open the >Clusters tab of the Telnet Dialog Window and press the Live Cluster List down-arrow, the server generates a summary for you in real-time
  • That real-time summary analyzes the raw data by continent, and for each continent gives you an alphabet list of sites that have 1) at least 10 reports of successful connections and 2) a success/fail ratio of at least 75%
Is 10 successful reports the right minimum? Is 75% success the right ratio? Should we be trending for more (or less) than the last 60,000 reports? I don't know the answer to those questions, yet. But there is nothing to prevent some fine-tuning in the future.

Finally - from a "raw data" to a "summary list" standpoint: as of two minutes ago, N1MM users had submitted reports on 665 cluster sites. But only 135 of those  meet the criteria and are included in the drop-down list.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Vytenis LY5T" <vytenis.sciucka@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 10:31:23
Subject: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

I didn't really understand how this works. I installed new version and see new dropdown box with servers listed, but they are listed by alphabet and not some rating.
If ratings are assigned to clusters - how can I see them? Can I sort by rating? How rankings are given? Or, is this list just a semi real time polled list of live servers?
Additional information will be appreciated.

73 Vytenis
LY5T


Re: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. Error After Installation

ERIC OLSON
 

Reverting back to version 1.0.8211 FIRST is crucial!  I did not have any problem with 1.0.8230 (but not contested with it since loading either) so I deleted the N1MMPacketSpots.s3db and let it automatically upgrade to todays version. Bad Bad Bad.  Lots of errors!

 

So I deleted the N1MMPacketSpots.s3db again and manually reverted to 1.0.8211.  I must have made the wrong database choice on startup because I ended up in the “do not use.s3db”.  Switched back to ham.s3db and on the next restart everything was happy again.  Loaded todays version and still working good.  Whew!

 

FYI if you haven’t upgraded yet!

 

73 Eric N7EPD

 

From: Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 6:44 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. Error After Installation

 

DO NOT delete the N1MM Logger+ folder if you have any QSOs logged that
you want to save.  Just delete N1MM PacketSpots.s3db*.

Tom - N1MM

On 3/15/2020 9:06 PM, Steve London wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The N1MM Logger team has identified that this is a problem with new
> installs, using the latest update. For now, the solution is to install
> the older update 1.0.8211, located it
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fn1mmwp.hamdocs.com%2Fmmfiles%2Fcategories%2Fprogramlatestupdate%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C467d873f785240bc37fc08d7c9b03535%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637199630949447015&amp;sdata=zAyw%2BmS0dGCoO6fd9oXcmA%2Bc0NnFbIna6qq%2BwqIpOMc%3D&amp;reserved=0 .
> Before restarting N1MM+, delete your Documents\N1MM Logger+ folder. Do
> not let the N1MM automatic updater install version 1.0.8230 .
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
> On 03/15/2020 06:21 PM, Greg Tilford wrote:
>> Hi, I just installed the software and I receive a
>> "System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an
>> instance of an object" when I start the software.  The full error
>> message is below.  I have unistalled and reinstalled the full suite,
>> and I have rebooted multiple times. Any suggestions?
>>
>> 73, Greg, KM5GT
>>
>> ----- full error message -----
>>
>> N1MMLogger.net - Version 1.0.8230.0
>> Built: 3/10/2020 11:08:42 AM
>> Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.18363.0,64:1,en-US,en-US
>> Error occurred at: 3/15/2020 8:14:48 PM in Thread:
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an
>> instance of an object.
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.SetWidths() in
>> C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM
>> Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 12027
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Call Stack before the runtime error:   at
>> System.Environment.GetStackTrace(Exception e, Boolean needFileInfo)
>>     at System.Environment.get_StackTrace()
>>     at N1MMLibrary.SharedLib.CallStackString() in
>> C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM
>> Library\Classes\SharedCode.vb:line 89
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.SharedCode.HandleError(Exception e, String
>> PortName, String Info) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM
>> Logger on .NET\main\N1MM Logger.Net\Modules\SharedCode.vb:line 186
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.SetWidths() in
>> C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM
>> Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 12051
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.ShowEntryControls() in
>> C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM
>> Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 11904
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.EntryWindow_Resize(Object
>> eventSender, EventArgs eventArgs) in
>> C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM
>> Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 11827
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.EntryWindow.Main_Load(Object sender, EventArgs
>> e) in C:\Users\micro\Source\Workspaces\N1MM Logger on .NET\main\N1MM
>> Logger.Net\Forms\EntryWindow.vb:line 1387
>>     at System.EventHandler.Invoke(Object sender, EventArgs e)
>>     at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
>>     at System.Windows.Forms.Form.SetVisibleCore(Boolean value)
>>     at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visible(Boolean value)
>>     at
>> System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32
>> reason, ApplicationContext context)
>>     at
>> System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32
>> reason, ApplicationContext context)
>>     at
>> Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.OnRun()
>>     at
>> Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.DoApplicationModel()
>>     at
>> Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.Run(String[]
>> commandLine)
>>     at N1MMLogger.Net.My.MyApplication.Main(String[] Args) in :line 82
>>
>
>
>

 


Re: SENDING de

K4GM-George
 

edit the function keys.

On 3/17/2020 5:16 PM, philip m woods via Groups.Io wrote:

Hello

I wonder if any one can help me !?

when using F keys  at the end of the message the program is sending in morse de

how do i stop this ?


HELP

73 Philip GM0LIR



Re: SENDING de

Peter Krüger
 

Deactivate the sending of your call in WSJT-X or WSJT-Z - or JTDX...

--
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N1mm+Toolbox -> see at  https://df1lx.darc.de
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Re: SENDING de

Larry K8UT
 

Philip,

We need a little more info from you.
  1. What mode are you in when the program sends the Morse "de"? (Some digital programs send a Morse ID string (de <callsign>) at the end of their transmissions)
  2. Do you have ESM (Enter Sends Message) enabled?
  3. Which message (FKey) are you pressing that sends "de"? (one, any, or all of them?)
  4. What are the contents of that message?
-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "philip m woods via Groups.Io" <philipgm0lir@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 17:16:54
Subject: [N1MM+] SENDING de

Hello

I wonder if any one can help me !?

when using F keys  at the end of the message the program is sending in morse de

how do i stop this ?


HELP

73 Philip GM0LIR


Re: SENDING de

VE9AA - Mike
 

GE Phil,

I don't think N1MM Logger Plus has a feature that allows you to opt-in to sending "DE" in a contest, so please post a copy of your CW function key file from the contest you noticed this in.  Copy and paste it in your reply. (right in the message body)

--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Telnet clusters rating

Larry K8UT
 

Hi Al

oops! A little detail that I have not made explicitly clear:

The continent is NOT the location of the cluster server. The continent is the location of the hams who are reporting that they use a specific cluster. Thus when you see the NA listings, these are clusters - wherever they may be - that North American hams are using successfully.

For example, scroll through the list and look for DXFUN.COM. I have no idea where DXFUN is located, but Hams in NA, EU and SA are connecting to it and meeting the 10@75% criteria.

If you think about it - you don't really care where a cluster is located, you only care that folks around you are using it.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Al Groff via Groups.Io" <al.k0vm@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 14:19:59
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

Larry,
   Thanks for the live cluster list... 
  I note at least a couple of clusters listed at NA may be else where based on call sign in cluster name and/or ip name ( .de )
  I think it might be useful  if the list included some type of location information for the clusters location ( state, grid... ) , but realize that might not be readily available.
  AL, K0VM

On 3/17/2020 12:08 PM, Larry K8UT wrote:
Hi Vytenis

We did not want to directly rate the clusters against each other, because of the risk of everyone overwhelming the top-ranked site at the expense of all other sites. Instead, we established a set of parameters that we consider to be the line between acceptable and unacceptable performance.

As we collect more data and analyze trends perhaps we can establish a grading scheme and categorize sites by grades: A, B, C.. But at this v1.0 point we are comfortable presenting a list via the following:
  • We do not poll any servers
  • You send anonymous telnet connection results to a website database, which it throttles at the most recent 60,000 reports
  • That raw database is "fresh" in that it is always the most recent reports submitted by N1MM users
  • When you open the >Clusters tab of the Telnet Dialog Window and press the Live Cluster List down-arrow, the server generates a summary for you in real-time
  • That real-time summary analyzes the raw data by continent, and for each continent gives you an alphabet list of sites that have 1) at least 10 reports of successful connections and 2) a success/fail ratio of at least 75%
Is 10 successful reports the right minimum? Is 75% success the right ratio? Should we be trending for more (or less) than the last 60,000 reports? I don't know the answer to those questions, yet. But there is nothing to prevent some fine-tuning in the future.

Finally - from a "raw data" to a "summary list" standpoint: as of two minutes ago, N1MM users had submitted reports on 665 cluster sites. But only 135 of those  meet the criteria and are included in the drop-down list.

-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Vytenis LY5T" <vytenis.sciucka@...>
Sent: 2020-03-17 10:31:23
Subject: [N1MM+] Telnet clusters rating

I didn't really understand how this works. I installed new version and see new dropdown box with servers listed, but they are listed by alphabet and not some rating.
If ratings are assigned to clusters - how can I see them? Can I sort by rating? How rankings are given? Or, is this list just a semi real time polled list of live servers?
Additional information will be appreciated.

73 Vytenis
LY5T


SENDING de

philip m woods
 

Hello

I wonder if any one can help me !?

when using F keys  at the end of the message the program is sending in morse de

how do i stop this ?


HELP

73 Philip GM0LIR


Re: QSO Parties

VE9AA - Mike
 

Ted Very happy to see you got it solved.

You rec'd great advice.

I was going to weigh in earlier but bit my tongue.

For some, you can really get wrapped around the axle, editing and editing and so on.....so what I mostly recommend is just downloading a fresh Function key file and starting over. Only takes a couple minutes to tweak.

Also, you may/maynot be aware that you can export function key files and associate them with different contests.  Heck, you could've used your "default CW".mc file and been OK without the one you say you use for all QSO parties.

There was several different ways to attack this.

Again, you got great advice, but even if it was middle of the night, nobody to contact for advice, in under 2 minutes, you could've been QRV with a new file and moving along again.  For next time....could be a great back up plan for some.

73 Mike VE9AA


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 05:59 PM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
OK, I think I have it solved.
When opening to edit the function buttons, there was a first line that just said:    k1a
I got rid of that line, and everything fell into place including the line colors, and the F-12 button returned to the right place.
 
Thank you for all the good help getting this solved.
73 from Ted W3TB

 
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: QSO Parties

Ted Edwards W3TB
 

OK, I think I have it solved.
When opening to edit the function buttons, there was a first line that just said:    k1a
I got rid of that line, and everything fell into place including the line colors, and the F-12 button returned to the right place.

Thank you for all the good help getting this solved.
73 from Ted W3TB


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:18 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
The fact that your Run F12 message line is green instead of blue and your S&P message line is black instead of green is an indication that your Run F12 message is the thirteenth active line in your file (not the twelfth as it should be) and that your S&P F12 message is the 25th line in the file instead of 24th. There is an extraneous line somewhere higher up in the file.

Start right at the top of the file and look for a line that does not start with a # - maybe a completely blank line, maybe a line that should be a comment but has the initial # missing - if it is not entirely blank, it will be blue instead of black, and the program will have assigned it as your Run F1 message line. Something above your first F1 line is not right, and all of the lines after that are in the wrong position (off by one).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 04:08 PM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
OK, I am attaching three screen shots to show what I am talking about -- and this only happens in the QSO Parties not for in other contests that I work.
Here are my basic logging screen and the functions screens for both Running and S&P.
The two lines for F12 I tried editing back to their correct place in the sequences and they are differing text color although I doubt color makes any difference.
 
Thanks!
 
image.png
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:35 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
The function key messages in the file are loaded into the function keys in the order they are encountered in the file. The labels or captions are not read by the program to determine which message key you want to load them into. There are two sets of 12 function key messages, which means exactly 24 lines, no more, no less (not counting comment lines that start with #). The first of those 24 lines is loaded into the Run version of F1, the second into the Run version of F2, ..., the twelfth into the Run version of F12, the thirteenth into the S&P version of F1, ..., the twenty-fourth into the S&P version of F12. If you have somehow inserted an extra line somewhere in the first twelve lines of the file, the message that you had originally intended for F12 in Run mode will appear in F1 in S&P mode instead (because it will now be the thirteenth line in the file). So look very carefully at your file to see whether there is an extra line in it somewhere. Maybe there is an inserted blank line that shouldn't be there(?). Switching to Run mode might help you find it (by looking at the captions on the 12 function keys you might be able to tell where the off-by-one error starts).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:08 PM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
For setting up for QSO parties, The F12-Wipe function button jumps to the beginning of the set -- and I don't know why.  I tried rewriting it to the end of the set, and that didn't work.
 
What can I do about that?

--
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."

 

 



--
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."



--
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."


Re: QSO Parties

ve3ki
 

The fact that your Run F12 message line is green instead of blue and your S&P message line is black instead of green is an indication that your Run F12 message is the thirteenth active line in your file (not the twelfth as it should be) and that your S&P F12 message is the 25th line in the file instead of 24th. There is an extraneous line somewhere higher up in the file.

Start right at the top of the file and look for a line that does not start with a # - maybe a completely blank line, maybe a line that should be a comment but has the initial # missing - if it is not entirely blank, it will be blue instead of black, and the program will have assigned it as your Run F1 message line. Something above your first F1 line is not right, and all of the lines after that are in the wrong position (off by one).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 04:08 PM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
OK, I am attaching three screen shots to show what I am talking about -- and this only happens in the QSO Parties not for in other contests that I work.
Here are my basic logging screen and the functions screens for both Running and S&P.
The two lines for F12 I tried editing back to their correct place in the sequences and they are differing text color although I doubt color makes any difference.
 
Thanks!
 




On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:35 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
The function key messages in the file are loaded into the function keys in the order they are encountered in the file. The labels or captions are not read by the program to determine which message key you want to load them into. There are two sets of 12 function key messages, which means exactly 24 lines, no more, no less (not counting comment lines that start with #). The first of those 24 lines is loaded into the Run version of F1, the second into the Run version of F2, ..., the twelfth into the Run version of F12, the thirteenth into the S&P version of F1, ..., the twenty-fourth into the S&P version of F12. If you have somehow inserted an extra line somewhere in the first twelve lines of the file, the message that you had originally intended for F12 in Run mode will appear in F1 in S&P mode instead (because it will now be the thirteenth line in the file). So look very carefully at your file to see whether there is an extra line in it somewhere. Maybe there is an inserted blank line that shouldn't be there(?). Switching to Run mode might help you find it (by looking at the captions on the 12 function keys you might be able to tell where the off-by-one error starts).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:08 PM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
For setting up for QSO parties, The F12-Wipe function button jumps to the beginning of the set -- and I don't know why.  I tried rewriting it to the end of the set, and that didn't work.
 
What can I do about that?

--
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."

 

 



--
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."