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Re: TX focus switching problems with Flex 6600M

Jamie WW3S
 

FWIW, I had a 6600, separate Maestro...bought it mainly because it’s marketed as SO2R in the box.....I never could solve the TX switching problem.....mainly used on RTTY and cqing on two bands was difficult.....when it worked, it worked well, but when it didn’t, well you know that story.....sometimes I could go for a few hours, no hiccups, sometimes three times in ten minutes....I guess my point is, it’s not the network....


On Nov 19, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Grant Kesselring <kesselg75@...> wrote:

After operating for the entire Sweepstakes SSB contest this weekend, I only saw the "attempt to change TX antenna while transmitting" maybe one or two times.  However, I did have Radio Swap Transmit Lead/Tail times set at 200ms.  I purposefully set these delay time longer to prevent any problems.  However, there were times during operation where I noticed this radio swap delay, and would have preferred it to be shorter.

In my setup, I have the Flex6600M cabled to the PC running N1MM+ through a Netgear Nighthawk X6 router.  My question is: would it be better from a radio swapping latency perspective if the FlexRadio was connected directly to the PC running the software (ie, remove the router)?  The router itself is just a few months old so I have no reason to suspect problems with it.  However, it seems like a piece of hardware that could potentially be causing latency in the system.  Has anyone ever experimented?

Re: TX focus switching problems with Flex 6600M

Andy (KU7T)
 

Unlikely. You can run a ping to your radio and it's likely 1ms or less. If its much longer your network is having issues.

You could try to reduce the 200ms a little but still keep it stable.

Remember, N1MM+ treats the 6600M like two generic CAT radios.  It seems to need more time to switch...

Andy
KU7T

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of Grant Kesselring <kesselg75@...>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 10:27:51 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] TX focus switching problems with Flex 6600M
 
After operating for the entire Sweepstakes SSB contest this weekend, I only saw the "attempt to change TX antenna while transmitting" maybe one or two times.  However, I did have Radio Swap Transmit Lead/Tail times set at 200ms.  I purposefully set these delay time longer to prevent any problems.  However, there were times during operation where I noticed this radio swap delay, and would have preferred it to be shorter.

In my setup, I have the Flex6600M cabled to the PC running N1MM+ through a Netgear Nighthawk X6 router.  My question is: would it be better from a radio swapping latency perspective if the FlexRadio was connected directly to the PC running the software (ie, remove the router)?  The router itself is just a few months old so I have no reason to suspect problems with it.  However, it seems like a piece of hardware that could potentially be causing latency in the system.  Has anyone ever experimented?

Re: TX focus switching problems with Flex 6600M

Grant Kesselring
 

After operating for the entire Sweepstakes SSB contest this weekend, I only saw the "attempt to change TX antenna while transmitting" maybe one or two times.  However, I did have Radio Swap Transmit Lead/Tail times set at 200ms.  I purposefully set these delay time longer to prevent any problems.  However, there were times during operation where I noticed this radio swap delay, and would have preferred it to be shorter.

In my setup, I have the Flex6600M cabled to the PC running N1MM+ through a Netgear Nighthawk X6 router.  My question is: would it be better from a radio swapping latency perspective if the FlexRadio was connected directly to the PC running the software (ie, remove the router)?  The router itself is just a few months old so I have no reason to suspect problems with it.  However, it seems like a piece of hardware that could potentially be causing latency in the system.  Has anyone ever experimented?

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

danzee
 

Tim, i found that issuing a telent data refresh fixed the taht problem. 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@...>
Date: 11/18/19 2:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Mike, historically N1MM has never worked for me in SS or NAQP in showing what are trivially new Canadian mults.

Like you point out it does the wrong the other way too. Like you, even after I had worked VY1AAA, it kept on showing VY1CO as a new mult. There were other Canadian calls that were trivially new mults that don't get lit up.

After I get the callsign into the entry window and space or tab over to the exchange, it lights up as a mult accurately.

I think this is some bad interaction between history file and the trivial callsign to mult mapping but I never have figured it out. Just lived with it for many many years now.

Tim N3QE

Tim N3QE

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:23 PM VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:
I didn't work the SS SSB this past weekend, but did work the SS CW and did unlimited, the "83Q/83Mults" thing.

Pretty much all I did was CTRL-ALT-UP/DN arrows and barely tuned around at all and it worked perfectly at that time.

The only issue I found in SS CW was that , even though I had already worked VY1AAA early on, it kept reporting another VY1 as a mult.
Since it was only one stn, it was easy to ignore.

The jump to the next mult thing worked fine how (in SS CW)...

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Gerald Boutin (VE1DT)
 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
It is that Ctrl+ALT+ UP/DN arrows command did nothing at all.
Joe,

Mike, VE9AA, said it worked for him in the contest and I just did a test in Multi-Single mode and Ctrl-Alt-Up/Down works just fine.

I think there must have been something unusual going on at your setup.

Does it work for you now if you try setting up a new dummy contest? If that works OK, then try the contest log from the test. Does it still not work for Up/Down mults? I really don't have anything in the way of guesses as to what went wrong. Was it working at any time during the contest?

-
Gerald, VE1DT

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Joe WB9SBD
 

It is NOT that N1MM+ wasn't knowing that
K9XYZ was a good contact but not a Mult, It's Blue

and that N9XXX is a new mult, it is RED

It is that Ctrl+ALT+ UP/DN arrows command did nothing at all.

Ctrl+ the arrows did do what was expected. It jumped to the next good contact regardless of mult new or not.

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/18/2019 3:28 PM, Chris Plumblee wrote:
One possible explanation for KP and KH calls that don't show up as expected is the country file. If (for instance) KP2ABC is licensed to a stateside (non-VI) address, the country file may be overriding the prefix-based assumption that KP2ABC is in VI because the license is issued to a stateside address. 

That's the flip side of the feature that tells your logging program that KV4FZ is in KP2 and KG6DX is in KH2 even though those are plain vanilla stateside calls according to the current FCC rules. 

73,
Chris W4WF

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@...> wrote:
Mike, historically N1MM has never worked for me in SS or NAQP in showing what are trivially new Canadian mults.

Like you point out it does the wrong the other way too. Like you, even after I had worked VY1AAA, it kept on showing VY1CO as a new mult. There were other Canadian calls that were trivially new mults that don't get lit up.

After I get the callsign into the entry window and space or tab over to the exchange, it lights up as a mult accurately.

I think this is some bad interaction between history file and the trivial callsign to mult mapping but I never have figured it out. Just lived with it for many many years now.

Tim N3QE

Tim N3QE

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:23 PM VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:
I didn't work the SS SSB this past weekend, but did work the SS CW and did unlimited, the "83Q/83Mults" thing.

Pretty much all I did was CTRL-ALT-UP/DN arrows and barely tuned around at all and it worked perfectly at that time.

The only issue I found in SS CW was that , even though I had already worked VY1AAA early on, it kept reporting another VY1 as a mult.
Since it was only one stn, it was easy to ignore.

The jump to the next mult thing worked fine how (in SS CW)...
--
Chris Plumblee
407.494.5155

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Chris Plumblee
 

One possible explanation for KP and KH calls that don't show up as expected is the country file. If (for instance) KP2ABC is licensed to a stateside (non-VI) address, the country file may be overriding the prefix-based assumption that KP2ABC is in VI because the license is issued to a stateside address. 

That's the flip side of the feature that tells your logging program that KV4FZ is in KP2 and KG6DX is in KH2 even though those are plain vanilla stateside calls according to the current FCC rules. 

73,
Chris W4WF

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:43 PM Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@...> wrote:
Mike, historically N1MM has never worked for me in SS or NAQP in showing what are trivially new Canadian mults.

Like you point out it does the wrong the other way too. Like you, even after I had worked VY1AAA, it kept on showing VY1CO as a new mult. There were other Canadian calls that were trivially new mults that don't get lit up.

After I get the callsign into the entry window and space or tab over to the exchange, it lights up as a mult accurately.

I think this is some bad interaction between history file and the trivial callsign to mult mapping but I never have figured it out. Just lived with it for many many years now.

Tim N3QE

Tim N3QE

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:23 PM VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:
I didn't work the SS SSB this past weekend, but did work the SS CW and did unlimited, the "83Q/83Mults" thing.

Pretty much all I did was CTRL-ALT-UP/DN arrows and barely tuned around at all and it worked perfectly at that time.

The only issue I found in SS CW was that , even though I had already worked VY1AAA early on, it kept reporting another VY1 as a mult.
Since it was only one stn, it was easy to ignore.

The jump to the next mult thing worked fine how (in SS CW)...

--
Chris Plumblee
407.494.5155

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Tim Shoppa
 

Mike, historically N1MM has never worked for me in SS or NAQP in showing what are trivially new Canadian mults.

Like you point out it does the wrong the other way too. Like you, even after I had worked VY1AAA, it kept on showing VY1CO as a new mult. There were other Canadian calls that were trivially new mults that don't get lit up.

After I get the callsign into the entry window and space or tab over to the exchange, it lights up as a mult accurately.

I think this is some bad interaction between history file and the trivial callsign to mult mapping but I never have figured it out. Just lived with it for many many years now.

Tim N3QE

Tim N3QE

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:23 PM VE9AA - Mike <ve9aa@...> wrote:
I didn't work the SS SSB this past weekend, but did work the SS CW and did unlimited, the "83Q/83Mults" thing.

Pretty much all I did was CTRL-ALT-UP/DN arrows and barely tuned around at all and it worked perfectly at that time.

The only issue I found in SS CW was that , even though I had already worked VY1AAA early on, it kept reporting another VY1 as a mult.
Since it was only one stn, it was easy to ignore.

The jump to the next mult thing worked fine how (in SS CW)...

Re: Flex 6600M in SO2R

Andy (KU7T)
 

Richard,

look up this thread for the info, 

samples:
F1 CQ,{OPERATOR}\Cq.wav{OTRSPOTHER RX}{END}{STEREOON}
F2 Exch,{OPERATOR}\CqwwExchange.wav{OTRSPOTHER RX}{END}{STEREOON}
F3 TNX,{OPERATOR}\Thanks.wav{CLEARRIT}{OTRSPOTHER RX}{END}{STEREOON}

73
Andy
KU7T

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

VE9AA - Mike
 

I didn't work the SS SSB this past weekend, but did work the SS CW and did unlimited, the "83Q/83Mults" thing.

Pretty much all I did was CTRL-ALT-UP/DN arrows and barely tuned around at all and it worked perfectly at that time.

The only issue I found in SS CW was that , even though I had already worked VY1AAA early on, it kept reporting another VY1 as a mult.
Since it was only one stn, it was easy to ignore.

The jump to the next mult thing worked fine how (in SS CW)...

Re: Flex 6600M in SO2R

Richard Zalewski
 

Thanks for the replies and tips.  Where do you put the  {OTRSPOTHER RX}  in the .mc file?
 

Richard 
W7ZR ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV


Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Craig Thompson <craig@...> wrote:
Hi Andy

Yes, there definitely is an issue with the timing using the ESC key. It is rare but when using ESC and a macro you can have a lockup. Thanks for checking into this. 

73, Craig K9CT

Re: UDC File problems for ARRL EME

John Bednar
 

> When I choose another udc file belongs to other contests, they show automatically the needed bandplan

 

The Entry Window Band Panel bands are saved when a change is made with the contest name. If you open the same contest again, the Band Panel bands from the last usage will be displayed.

 

It is not possible to set the bands to be displayed in the UDC.

 

Right click, select the Bands option, and set the bands that you want displayed for the EME contest.

 

John, K3CT

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Oguzhan Kayhan
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 10:12 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] UDC File problems for ARRL EME

 

Thank you Rich. I will try that.

Logs imported from MSHV (a software similar to WSJT and mostly used for MS and EME activity) no contest selected during export.. Default adif output..

But you may be right.. I tried importing all qsos in same db with different contests.

 

With band panel and contest setup.. When I choose another udc file belongs to other contests, they show automatically the needed bandplan.. For example.. if I select TA VHF contest..

band panel switches to 6m 2m 70 cm...which is valid for the contest category...

So, My question was mostly for learning the udc in detail.. .. Which parameter controls this behavior.. or is there anything like this.. I made a diff check between this two contests.. and there was not much difference 

 

 

With creating the cabrillo format,  

I solved my problem and already submitted my log to arrl.. Now.. trying to learn details.. 

 

Regards..

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:

When you imported the ADIF file, were those contacts already in the database but perhaps logged in a different contest, such as the general DX log, or a second instance of the ARRLEMEVHF contest? That would explain the message about duplicates - the program cannot contain two identical copies of the same QSO in different contests in the same database. It will automatically adjust the times of the imported QSOs to avoid an exact match.

Regarding the band panel in the Entry window, that is configurable. Right-click with the mouse in the entry window and select the "Change Band Panel Display" menu item. That will open a dialog window where you can choose which bands to display.

In the Contest Setup window, it appears that you may have selected CW+SSB as the Mode category. Your contacts were made in a digital mode, and may have been assigned zero points because of that. Change the Mode category to CW+SSB+DIGITAL, then close and reopen the program to see whether that corrects the claimed score.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 05:23 AM, Oguzhan Kayhan wrote:

Hello,

Last weekend there was ARRL EME contest..

They were asking for cabrillo format  log upload..

So first I downloaded the udc file from n1mm webpage

Then created new contest with the start date set to the first leg of vhf contest..

After creating I tried to upload the adif export to the n1mm..

But it gave a warning that there is 24(which is the number of qsos on log) duplicates, and if I want to continue..(log file was empty)

Error! Filename not specified.

 

 

The example line to the exported adif file is;

<STATION_CALLSIGN:5>TA2NC<MY_GRIDSQUARE:6>KM69HU<CALL:5>RX1AS<GRIDSQUARE:4>KO59<MODE:4>JT65<SUBMODE:5>JT65B<RST_SENT:1>O<RST_RCVD:1>O<QSO_DATE:8>20191019<TIME_ON:6>221200<QSO_DATE_OFF:8>20191019<TIME_OFF:6>221300<BAND:2>2M<FREQ:10>144.120000<PROP_MODE:3>EME<COMMENT:4>b-14<SRX:0><STX:0><APP_N1MM_EXCHANGE1:0><ARRL_SECT:0><APP_N1MM_RUN1RUN2:1>0<EOR>
<STATION_CALLSIGN:5>TA2NC<MY_GRIDSQUARE:6>KM69HU<CALL:5>YL2GD<GRIDSQUARE:4>KO37<MODE:4>JT65<SUBMODE:5>JT65B<RST_SENT:1>O<RST_RCVD:1>O<QSO_DATE:8>20191019<TIME_ON:6>221600<QSO_DATE_OFF:8>20191019<TIME_OFF:6>221900<BAND:2>2M<FREQ:10>144.120000<PROP_MODE:3>EME<COMMENT:4>b-19<SRX:0><STX:0><APP_N1MM_EXCHANGE1:0><ARRL_SECT:0><APP_N1MM_RUN1RUN2:1>0<EOR>

 

  That was one of the issues..  Not so critical indeed.. It just imported them normally after clicking OK.

 

Next issue I faced is the band plan for contest,

UDC file is made for vhf and up frequencies...But the appeared menu shows only HF frequencies..

Error! Filename not specified.

 

I checked the fields on the udc file for any clue that I can check , but everything seems appropriate.

For example MultiplierBands =4 on the udc file..

Is there anything that I am missing ?

 

Anyway, after importing the adif file, when I click recalculate it marked all qso's as 0 points..

But if I add a new qso, It calculates with 100 points as indicated in udc file..

 

Anyway, I uploaded the cabrillo file created from n1mm and uploaded to arrl robot. And it calculated points normally...

I am just trying to learn if this udc file has any errors, and if we can fix that..

Or n1mm can not work according to the rules of arrl eme contest and needs additional tools for correct scoring??

 

Regards

TA2NC

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Flex 6600M in SO2R

Craig Thompson
 

Hi Andy

Yes, there definitely is an issue with the timing using the ESC key. It is rare but when using ESC and a macro you can have a lockup. Thanks for checking into this. 

73, Craig K9CT

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Joe WB9SBD
 

Morning Rich,

     It worked last year, Plus this year it did color code them correctly Blues and Reds,

Blue for of course Good to work but not a Mult, and RED for a New Mult,

Joe WB9SBD

On 11/18/2019 10:56 AM, ve3ki wrote:
In Sweepstakes, the program does not know whether most stations would be a new multiplier or not, so I suspect the majority of stations are spotted just as new QSOs (blue, not red). Perhaps there were no spots marked as multipliers for Ctrl+Alt+arrows to jump to(?).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
As usual N1MM+ was awesome in Sweepstakes Phone. I had about 20 newbies
in this years event, and ran of course Milti/Single. With a separate
Mult chasing station. That Mult Station is an awesome training position
for those that have never contested. Low pressure, yet still all the
mayhem that is happening during the contest. Perfect!

But we had one problem, for either the "RUN" Station or the "MULT"
station, the jump to next Mult, ( Ctrl+ALT+ up or down arrows) did nothing.

The Jump to next station (Ctrl+ up or down arrows) worked great.

We tried other keyboard commands that had the "ALT" in the string and
they worked fine, so we knew the ALT key was working.

But the Ctrl+ALT+ arrows, never did anything at either station.

What should we look for. It worked last year.

Joe WB9SBD & W9ET DRIFTLESS ZONE CONTESTERS

Re: Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

ve3ki
 

In Sweepstakes, the program does not know whether most stations would be a new multiplier or not, so I suspect the majority of stations are spotted just as new QSOs (blue, not red). Perhaps there were no spots marked as multipliers for Ctrl+Alt+arrows to jump to(?).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
As usual N1MM+ was awesome in Sweepstakes Phone. I had about 20 newbies
in this years event, and ran of course Milti/Single. With a separate
Mult chasing station. That Mult Station is an awesome training position
for those that have never contested. Low pressure, yet still all the
mayhem that is happening during the contest. Perfect!

But we had one problem, for either the "RUN" Station or the "MULT"
station, the jump to next Mult, ( Ctrl+ALT+ up or down arrows) did nothing.

The Jump to next station (Ctrl+ up or down arrows) worked great.

We tried other keyboard commands that had the "ALT" in the string and
they worked fine, so we knew the ALT key was working.

But the Ctrl+ALT+ arrows, never did anything at either station.

What should we look for. It worked last year.

Joe WB9SBD & W9ET DRIFTLESS ZONE CONTESTERS

Re: N1MM and WSJT-X setup with K3

Rick Ellison
 

John..

Make sure you are using the latest version as far as I know as of last month all of the K3 issues were fixed and everything was working with them .

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of John H. Long Jr.
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 10:41 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM and WSJT-X setup with K3

 

I am just setting up a new (for me) K3 and see the same CAT problem here.

Re: Configuration IC-7100

Steph, F5NZY
 

Hi Rich,

 

Yes, you’re right! Same conclusion!

 

And got same advice from Phil, F5IYJ.

 

73 de Steph, F5NZY.

 

PS: I will set up my IC-7300.

 

De : N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> De la part de ve3ki
Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2019 13:08
À : N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Objet : Re: [N1MM+] Configuration IC-7100

 

I don't know anything about the IC-7100 other than what I can determine from downloading the user manual. However, I do not see any sign in the user manual that the radio supports keying CW on DTR of the radio control COM port, the way you have it configured. Although it looks to me as if the USB driver creates two COM ports, not just one, I also do not see any sign that the second port supports CW keying either. If it turns out that it does, you might be able to configure that second COM port for CW. If it does not, you will need a separate hardware CW keying interface connected to the radio's CW key jack, with the radio's keyer set up for a straight key.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:30 PM, Steph, F5NZY wrote:

Hello all,

I have the last updated N1MM+.

I’d like to setup an IC-7100.

The Radio switch bands, it switch TX, but no CW sent.

Any help, pse?

73 de Steph, F5NZY

<<...>>

Re: Flex 6600M in SO2R

Grant Kesselring
 

Andy,
Yes, that worked out very well for me.  Thank you for that tip!
- Grant

Sweepstakes! Jump to Issue

Joe WB9SBD
 

As usual N1MM+ was awesome in Sweepstakes Phone. I had about 20 newbies in this years event, and ran of course Milti/Single. With a separate Mult chasing station. That Mult Station is an awesome training position for those that have never contested. Low pressure, yet still all the mayhem that is happening during the contest. Perfect!

But we had one problem, for either the "RUN" Station or the "MULT" station, the jump to next Mult, ( Ctrl+ALT+ up or down arrows) did nothing.

The Jump to next station (Ctrl+ up or down arrows) worked great.

We tried other keyboard commands that had the "ALT" in the string and they worked fine, so we knew the ALT key was working.

But the Ctrl+ALT+ arrows, never did anything at either station.

What should we look for. It worked last year.

Joe WB9SBD & W9ET DRIFTLESS ZONE CONTESTERS

Re: N1MM and WSJT-X setup with K3

John H. Long Jr.
 

I am just setting up a new (for me) K3 and see the same CAT problem here.