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Re: Bandmap and Balloons

Jim W6EU
 

One of the first things I looked for last summer upon loading up N1MM+ was how to turn off the bothersome balloons...
Any help ?

Jim W6EU


On 11/23/2019 9:13 AM, George Steube wrote:
How do you turn off the balloons on the bandmap?
Thanks
73, George
W2GS

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Rick Ellison
 

That might be very true but for some of us that can’t hear in the 400 to 1000hz range it makes hearing CW very difficult. I last night I had given out about 80 q’s while I sat hear working on some projects. Maybe I shouldn’t have given out the q’s since I couldn’t actually hear the tones correctly but some contesters out there I bet welcomed the q’s..

 

I have tried all of the CW readers out there. The 2 that are the best is CWget and MRP40. Fldigi is good for a general qso where there is not much noise and the other person is sending really good code. There are some adjustments you can make to Fldigi like narrowing the AFC range and playing with the other settings on the CW tab. But CWGet is my default reader..

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Cooke
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 12:42 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

The best code reader is that grey stuff in between the ears! Don't try to settle for less. It might take sometime to achieve, but it's well worth it.

 

73 de Roger, G3LDI

On 23/11/2019 16:24, Andrew O'Brien wrote:

I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy

 



On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

MICHAEL LANE
 

Run CW get outside of N1MM

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Michael Walker
 

There is no question the brain makes an excellent, if not the best Digital Signal Processor.  

I am personally amazed what SSB signals my brain can actually copy in very crowded conditions. 

Yes, when it comes when it comes to CW, I am not even  just ok.  

To be a CW operator in a contest, you have to have some sort of commitment and dedication.   You can't just do it once or twice a year.   For a new ham, same story.  Practiced and dedication, etc.  You have built up a core of excellent CW listening skills.  For those of you that are true high-speed ops, I am in awe.  

So, don't go so hard on those hams where 'sound reading' is not a natural talent.   I could just as easily say that all you CW ops could be writing better Ham Radio Software.  After all, it is just another skillset.

Personally, I know (at 61) that if I was to spend 10 minutes a day doing something like MorseRunner, etc., my speed would start to improve hugely.

Mike va3mw




On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 1:05 PM Ed W2LCQ via Groups.Io <w2lcq=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well said Roger. Thanks,

Ed

Re: Why is my N1MM+ stuck in Run Mode?

WA5LXS
 

Loaded the CQWWCW.mc file from the N1MM site and things are working OK for S&P.  I just don't know what has fouled my existing .mc files.

Dennis
WA5LXS

Drift K3s

MICHAEL LANE
 

Has anyone experienced the Elecraft K3S drifting down in frequency? Having a go at CQWW CW and radio drifts down very slowly and intermittently. It seems to be N1MM causing it, don’t seem experience it with the program close. Not RF as it does it in receive.

Mike

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Ed W2LCQ
 

Well said Roger. Thanks,

Ed


Vy 73, Ed Jones W2LCQ

                  Frankford Radio Club
CWops 701 - SKCC 5474C - FISTS 12294


            






On Nov 23, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Roger Cooke <roger@...> wrote:



The best code reader is that grey stuff in between the ears! Don't try to settle for less. It might take sometime to achieve, but it's well worth it.


73 de Roger, G3LDI

On 23/11/2019 16:24, Andrew O'Brien wrote:
I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

Why is my N1MM+ stuck in Run Mode?

WA5LXS
 

Recovering from a couple surgeries and felt good enough to try a little CQ WW CW contesting.  For some reason my N1MM has gotten goofed, it keeps switching to Run mode after I press the F2 exchange in S&P.  I even checked the Do not switch to Run on CQ Frequency and it seems to ignore that.  Running version V1.0.8014.0. And the log is set for CQ Worldwide. CW  Last set up was for SSB SS, which I did not get to participate in.

In S&P mode it does not show the F1 function key.  When I look at the .mc file, the S&P F1 is blue.  I have no clue how this got so fouled up and why it is behaving this way.  Alt-11 or Alt-U do not seem to help.  

First time ever with a goofy problem like this.  I hope someone can help me before I miss what is left of the contest.

Dennis
WA5LXS

Spectrum Display with SoftRock

John, G4DRS
 

I wonder, has anyone got the Spectrum Display window to work using the Waterfall Bandmap software and a SoftRock SDR plus soundcard?
I have a Radiokits Hiunter SDR (which identifies as a softrock), connected to a soundblaster Audigy soundcard.
The setup works quite nicely as a panadaptor using NAP3 software, displaying the 9MHz IF output of the FTdx5000, so I thought for a change I'd try the Spectrum Display window.
I have the Waterfall Bandmap software running, and it makes a nice display, with station callsigns against each waterfall stream.
However, when I start the Spectrum display window in N1MM Logger+ and select 'for all other radios, source named waterfall bandmap', the window shows no signals and becomes unresponsive. I have to exit N1MM Logger+ or kill it using task manager to get things working again.
I appreciate that my si570/soundcard based SDR is very old technology these days, but the documentation seems to imply it should work. Has anyone any idea where I might be going wrong?


John
G4DRS 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Roger Cooke
 

The best code reader is that grey stuff in between the ears! Don't try to settle for less. It might take sometime to achieve, but it's well worth it.


73 de Roger, G3LDI

On 23/11/2019 16:24, Andrew O'Brien wrote:
I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

Bandmap

George Steube
 

How do you turn off the balloons on the bandmap?
Thanks
73, George
W2GS

Bandmap

Nico Ebbendorf
 

Hi,
The Bandmap showing very litte stations after a while at my end. Clicking the SH/DX sends the command to the telnet okay but no update. Only when I "reconnect"to the cluster, a fresh and full list of stations appear in the bandmap.
Cluster I am using is PA1RBZ and this cluster is showing a lot of stations in the nelnet window continues.

Do I miss a setting here?

73, Nico PA3ADU

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Dana Phillips
 

A second reader like CW Get, increases your chance of a good decode


From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> on behalf of ve3ki <ve3iay@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 11:38:44 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader
 
Code reader performance is often underwhelming. They don't like varying speeds - you might find it works better if you crank up the speed setting (second from the left on the bottom of the fldigi window) to more closely match the speeds other stations are working at. Signals need to be strong with no QRM, and you need to tune them in fairly accurately. And they need to be well-formed CW, not only at the source, but also after the ionosphere has had its way with them (auroral flutter, anyone?).

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Phil wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

--
Dana Phillips N6DW
n6dw@...

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

ve3ki
 

Code reader performance is often underwhelming. They don't like varying speeds - you might find it works better if you crank up the speed setting (second from the left on the bottom of the fldigi window) to more closely match the speeds other stations are working at. Signals need to be strong with no QRM, and you need to tune them in fairly accurately. And they need to be well-formed CW, not only at the source, but also after the ionosphere has had its way with them (auroral flutter, anyone?).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Phil wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

AB2ZY
 

Even in good conditions, computer decoding of CW is far from perfect. There are many variables – QRN, QRM, s/n ratio, spacing, “fist”, sending speed etc.

 

I haven’t used FLDIGI for the job at all. CWGet works pretty well, or it is at least is as good as it gets. The nice thing about it is that you can manually control where in the passband you want to decode and set the detection threshold. Or you can turn it loose and have it figure those things out.

 

I use it as a crutch only – to check if what I copied is what the computer decoded. For example, with the guys who send 35+ WPM, I can have a difficult time telling a D from a B from a 6, or S from H, etc. 

 

If you want to improve your skills, set a goal of not using the crutch for an entire contest. It might require listening to 10 QSOs for you to copy all the callsign characters, but it is good practice and you’ll get better. CQWW is a great contest for this because the exchange (zone) is something that 99.99% of the time is determined by the callsign and N1MM pre fills that in for you.

 

Al

AB2ZY

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Phil via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 11:18 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

 

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

John H. Long Jr.
 

Kind of the same thing here.
 
What I have found is that the CW readers help confirm what you receive.  I.E.  That missing digit in a call sign, etc.
You might have to wait for the station to xmit 2,3 or 4 times and look for a repetitive copy of the call sign.
 
On a more expensive note:
 
I have a new Xiegu G90 QRP Transceiver that has a built in CW reader.  It does better job, but still not always 100%.
 
For the current CW contest a friend is loaning me his Elecraft K3.
 
WOW, now that is what you need for CW.
Great reception and the built in CW decoder does a good job at identifying the calls.
Still not 100% but good enough to put a smile on your face and feel like you are actually getting in the contest.
That and N1MM with a spectrum scope and away you go.
 
 
I'm using it mainly to work on my CW WAS and 5 band WAS.
Maybe a little DXCC also.
 
 
73,
John
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader
From: 'Phil via Groups.Io' <p.oakley@...>
Date: 11/23/19 9:18 am
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Dean Saxton
 

Phil,

The problem with decoding CW is it has to be near perfectly sent. My guess is that the software is trying to decode too many signals and is getting confused. 

The best decoding software is the brain. Take your time and pick out each character one at a time.

CQWW CW is a hard one to start with. Next Thursday is the RSGB 80m CW, give that a try.

Dean G4WQI



Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2

-------- Original message --------
From: "Phil via Groups.Io" <p.oakley@...>
Date: 23/11/2019 16:18 (GMT+00:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] CQWWCW CW Reader

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked Re: CQWWCW CW Reader

Andrew O'Brien
 

I have found that code readers in general don’t do well at speeds common to major contests , even though machine generated . CQWW is a little easier for a plan old human brain to cope with because the exchange is so easy to predict (and N1MM mostly predicts it). 

Andy


On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Phil via Groups.Io <p.oakley@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

locked CQWWCW CW Reader

Phil
 

Hi Folks,
I have always wanted to participate in the CQWWCW contest, plus it would help me with my Morse code reading after a 32 year lapse!

Knowing a lot of stations are using keyboard/screen I set up N1MM with FLDigi CW Reader.

To say I am disappointed is a understatement, maybe it is operator error but I found the decoding very poor, am I doing something wrong? I could only get the screen to decode if the station was operating around 15/18 wpm anything above that was hopeless and frustrating spent all day and only worked 6 stations :( I am hearing the stations with strong signals but sadly not seeing the callsigns! just gobbledygook 

I have been into config- rig control- modems and I wonder what your setting are? I have looked at so many YouTubes and still not found an answer

Using Icom IC-7300 with Hexbeam

73 Phil G0BVD frustrated ham of North Devon UK 

Re: wl_cty.dat warning?

Rick Tavan
 

:-) No complaint about time required, Tom. But no one wants to interrupt a run to re-do it. I did it Thurs on all machines IIRC and will do it again as I rotate thru them today - only 2 operating positions plus a monitoring/hot standby. I still think the frequency of warning messages is “a bit“ high.

Thanks for the Q early on BTW.

Several MM+ newbies here unwilling to learn much but doing fine running piles.

73,

Rick N6XI at PZ5W

--
Rick Tavan

On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@...> wrote:

I just updated the wl_cty.dat file here. Including the time to find it in the tools menu, it took 9 seconds.

Tom

On 11/23/2019 6:50 AM, Rick Tavan wrote:
Is it really necessary to warn about a version mismatch at a multi every 5 seconds? We’ll update it when the rate drops but don’t need thousands of warning messages!

Rick N6XI

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Rick Tavan