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Re: CW Skimmer & N1MM+ Spectrum Window

Marty Koszewski
 

Tom,
Agreed.  Using telnet cluster is a simpler set up as well. (nice to know the CW Skimmer works as well).

I apologize for the additional questions:
1. When I check 'only show spots you can hear', does that limit the spots that populate the Band Map window as well?  or does the Band Map window show all spots from the telnet cluster?
2. Does the 'set spot timeout' in the band map also remove the spot from the Spectrum Window as well?  If not, what is the condition for the spots to drop from the Spectrum window?

Thanks again.
Marty - N1VH


Re: Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests

VE2FK
 

Steve, be sure you have SPDXRTTY module.
 
spdxrtty_1
 
There is no box for province.  US/VE send numbers  and SP
send 2 letters, all go in same box.
 
spdxrtty_2
 
Working OK here, GL
Claude
 
 

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests
 
Hi Claude,

Yes, I'm using the latest version of N1MM (it lets me know when there is an update when I start the program).
I also opened a new Log within the database and chose SPDXRTTY
I only have windows for Call, sent, received, sent number, and exchange (there isn't a box for province).  I enter their sent number within exchange.

73,
Steve, N1TYH

Garanti sans virus. www.avg.com


locked Re: N1MM Logger+ EXPORT ADIF <STX> - <STX_STRING> MISSING #n1mm

Jeff K6QCB
 

So then why does it work with Fldigi. When I work an RTTY or CW contest using Fldigi and export an ADIF to import into my general logging program it works properly and puts the exchange in STX(SRX)_STRING and miraculously it is in my general log without further manipulation. It also puts the serial number in the right place if used and both correctly if both are used. The only thing it does not transfer is the contest id. What do they know that others don't.
Cabrillo logs contain minimal info to transfer to the general log.

Jeff K6QCB


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Ted Bryant
 

Thanks, Tom (and Gerry!). I'll download and test it as soon as we're through with the Florida QSO Party.

73, Ted W4NZ

-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 4:17 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Subsequent testing of the version below showed unreliable connections
when two or more PCs were on the same LAN (e.g. they can see each other
both through Hamachi and directly via LAN address). I changed the code
to prefer connected through Hamachi and initial testing shows it working
reliably now. I need more testers.

It's called:

Updated Hamachi code try Hamachi first, if none, use local LAN address

and it is at:

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

73,

Tom

On 4/25/2020 2:05 PM, Tom wrote:
W1VE & I tested a paid Hamachi network just now. We were able to
replicate the issue with autoconfig, and I have posted a fix in the
experimental area. It is marked "For W1VE". You are welcome to try it.

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

Tom - N1MM

On 4/25/2020 10:55 AM, Ted Bryant wrote:
I've been reading W4IEE's posts with interest. Our local club is
planning a distributed multi-op for today's Florida QSO Party. We
will be using a VPN through LogMeIn Hamachi.

I have two networks set up at Hamachi. Both of these are mesh
networks. One is the "free" network for up to 5 computers. We have
tested with 5 computers at 5 different locations and everything works
as it should. Autoconfig works correctly with no addresses in the
computer address list. N1MM Logger works just like we were on the
same LAN.

The second network is a subscribed network for up to 32 computers. I
have tested it with only 2 computers from my QTH. One is a laptop
connected to the internet via a cell phone as a hot spot and the
other is my normal radio pc connected to the internet through my home
network.

With the LogMeIn Hamachi app running, each computer can join the
subscribed network. Using the Hamachi ping function, I can ping each
computer from the other. For this network the N1MM autoconfig does
not work. To establish the network connection it is necessary to put
an address of the "other" computer in the computer address list of
either. If more than 2 computers were networked, I suspect they
would all require complete addresses in each to network properly.
After the weekend activities, I intend to find out.

I don't understand why the behavior of the subscribed network is
different than the free with respect to the autoconfig.

73, Ted W4NZ



-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:59 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

That is not a use case we have tested. I did just check and the UDP
broadcast which allows autoconfig is still sent, even if there are
entries in the computer addresses table. Likely those stations receiving
the message will be able to autoconfig even with others already
specified.

If autoconfig is working all the computers should be found without
putting entries in the table.

Re Hamachi configuration issues, then their support knows far more than
I about that. Tell them you want the simplest default configuration -
i.e. a mesh network.

It may be possible that the autoconfig message will not reach all the
computers in your network. We only tested with 5. But you should keep
pursuing whether each of those Hamachi clients was installed properly.
When installing programs that you intend to allow connecting externally
(like Hamachi and N1MM+), you need to be careful to ALLOW them to do
so. Windows will ask if you are sure.

73,

Tom


On 4/24/2020 1:47 PM, Tom Porada wrote:
Network Status autopopulate...

It appears that:

if one entry is made manually then all entries have to be made
manually.

if the one (or all?) manual entry is removed, then the network status
window closed, then the network status window is reopened, then the
Network status automatically repopulates.

Have only done this on two computers.

Is that how it should work?



Also - the Hamachi diagnostic turns *yellow* on most stations
indicating a firewall problem. In going deeper in the Windows firewall
properties and unprotecting the Hamachi check box for Domain, Public
and Private - then doing a rediagnose on Hamachi - checks show a
*green* checkbox.

But

Whether the Hamachi diagnostic box is yellow or green we do not see
any impact on the Network Status window. or log operation - So, we
went back and re checked the boxes noted above and Hamachi shows
yellow again but everything seems to work.

We are accepting any anomalies we have seen so far and will go with
what we have for the FL QSO party tomorrow with 9 stations in the mesh.

Tom W4IEE




Re: Recording and transmitting wav files

Tad Danley
 

Thank you John!  I had used the first 3 pages of your doc several months ago to set up my 7610 for rig control and cw transmission with N1MM+, and never completed the remaining steps for RTTY and SSB voice keying.  Thank you for the great resource, much appreciated!

 

73,

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Bednar via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:09 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Recording and transmitting wav files

 

Tad,

 

Saw your generic question on the IC-7610 reflector.

 

Here is the link found in the Logger+ manual for the IC-7610 setup.

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/ic-7610_cw_ssb_rtty_fsk_config-pdf/

 

Use Logger+ Audio.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tad Danley
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:23 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Recording and transmitting wav files

 

Is it possible to record wav files for use with F1-F8 keys using the headset mic while connected to the radio using Ctrl/Shift/F4 for example, instead of using a usb mic?  If so where can I find the complete step-by-step instructions for use with my Windows 10 pc?  Having trouble understanding whether I should select Use Logger+ Audio under Config, or configure the Audio under the Config Ports config menu – and how the settings for the correct option should be set.

 

So far all I have managed to do it to get the rig to key for a few seconds when I press F4 in S&P mode when I enable Use Logger+ Audio, but there is no audio transmitted.

 

Thank you in advance for the help!

 

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 


Re: Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests

ve3ki
 

According to the published rules, SP stations send a county abbreviation , not a serial number; other stations send a serial number. If you work an SP station, enter the county code into the exchange box. If you work another station, enter the serial number into the exchange box.

If an SP station sends you a serial number as well as a county code (despite what it says in the rules), use Ctrl+N to enter a note in the log and enter the serial number into the Note field.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 06:33 PM, Steve Olivieri wrote:
Hi Claude,

Yes, I'm using the latest version of N1MM (it lets me know when there is an update when I start the program).
I also opened a new Log within the database and chose SPDXRTTY
I only have windows for Call, sent, received, sent number, and exchange (there isn't a box for province).  I enter their sent number within exchange.

73,
Steve, N1TYH


Re: Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests

Steve Olivieri
 

Hi Claude,

Yes, I'm using the latest version of N1MM (it lets me know when there is an update when I start the program).
I also opened a new Log within the database and chose SPDXRTTY
I only have windows for Call, sent, received, sent number, and exchange (there isn't a box for province).  I enter their sent number within exchange.

73,
Steve, N1TYH


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

Thanks for the feedback. Glad it is working now.

Tom

On 4/25/2020 6:05 PM, Ron wrote:
Tom,

Excellent. I deleted all the manually added, put this version on all Lan connected PC's and everything seems to be auto jubulating like a champ !
Ron, WV4P

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 15:16, Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@... <mailto:n1mmtomwagner@...>> wrote:

Subsequent testing of the version below showed unreliable connections
when two or more PCs were on the same LAN (e.g. they can see each
other
both through Hamachi and directly via LAN address).  I changed the
code
to prefer connected through Hamachi and initial testing shows it
working
reliably now. I need more testers.

It's called:

Updated Hamachi code try Hamachi first, if none, use local LAN address

and it is at:

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

73,

Tom

On 4/25/2020 2:05 PM, Tom wrote:
> W1VE & I tested a paid Hamachi network just now.  We were able to
> replicate the issue with autoconfig, and I have posted a fix in the
> experimental area. It is marked "For W1VE". You are welcome to
try it.
>
> https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/
>
> Tom - N1MM
>
> On 4/25/2020 10:55 AM, Ted Bryant wrote:
>> I've been reading W4IEE's posts with interest. Our local club is
>> planning a distributed multi-op for today's Florida QSO Party. We
>> will be using a VPN through LogMeIn Hamachi.
>>
>> I have two networks set up at Hamachi.  Both of these are mesh
>> networks. One is the "free" network for up to 5 computers.  We
have
>> tested with 5 computers at 5 different locations and everything
works
>> as it should.  Autoconfig works correctly with no addresses in the
>> computer address list.  N1MM Logger works just like we were on the
>> same LAN.
>>
>> The second network is a subscribed network for up to 32
computers.  I
>> have tested it with only 2 computers from my QTH. One is a laptop
>> connected to the internet via a cell phone as a hot spot and the
>> other is my normal radio pc connected to the internet through
my home
>> network.
>>
>> With the LogMeIn Hamachi app running, each computer can join the
>> subscribed network.  Using the Hamachi ping function, I can
ping each
>> computer from the other. For this network the N1MM autoconfig does
>> not work. To establish the network connection it is necessary
to put
>> an address of the "other" computer in the computer address list of
>> either.  If more than 2 computers were networked, I suspect they
>> would all require complete addresses in each to network properly.
>> After the weekend activities, I intend to find out.
>>
>> I don't understand why the behavior of the subscribed network is
>> different than the free with respect to the autoconfig.
>>
>> 73, Ted W4NZ
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
<mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
<mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>] On
>> Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:59 PM
>> To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
>>
>> That is not a use case we have tested.  I did just check and
the UDP
>> broadcast which allows autoconfig is still sent, even if there are
>> entries in the computer addresses table. Likely those stations
receiving
>> the message will be able to autoconfig even with others already
>> specified.
>>
>> If autoconfig is working all the computers should be found without
>> putting entries in the table.
>>
>> Re Hamachi configuration issues, then their support knows far
more than
>> I about that.  Tell them you want the simplest default
configuration -
>> i.e. a mesh network.
>>
>> It may be possible that the autoconfig message will not reach
all the
>> computers in your network. We only tested with 5. But you
should keep
>> pursuing whether each of those Hamachi clients was installed
properly.
>> When installing programs that you intend to allow connecting
externally
>> (like Hamachi and N1MM+), you need to be careful to ALLOW them
to do
>> so.  Windows will ask if you are sure.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/2020 1:47 PM, Tom Porada wrote:
>>> Network Status autopopulate...
>>>
>>> It appears that:
>>>
>>> if one entry is made manually then all entries have to be made
>>> manually.
>>>
>>> if the one (or all?) manual entry is removed, then the network
status
>>> window closed, then the network status window is reopened,
then the
>>> Network status automatically repopulates.
>>>
>>> Have only done this on two computers.
>>>
>>> Is that how it should work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also - the Hamachi diagnostic turns *yellow* on most stations
>>> indicating a firewall problem. In going deeper in the Windows
firewall
>>> properties and unprotecting the Hamachi check box for Domain,
Public
>>> and Private - then doing a rediagnose on Hamachi - checks show a
>>> *green* checkbox.
>>>
>>> But
>>>
>>> Whether the Hamachi diagnostic box is yellow or green we do
not see
>>> any impact on the Network Status window. or log operation - So, we
>>> went back and re checked the boxes noted above and Hamachi shows
>>> yellow again but everything seems to work.
>>>
>>> We are accepting any anomalies we have seen so far and will go
with
>>> what we have for the FL QSO party tomorrow with 9 stations in
the mesh.
>>>
>>> Tom W4IEE
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>




Re: Recording and transmitting wav files

John Bednar
 

Tad,

 

Saw your generic question on the IC-7610 reflector.

 

Here is the link found in the Logger+ manual for the IC-7610 setup.

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/ic-7610_cw_ssb_rtty_fsk_config-pdf/

 

Use Logger+ Audio.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tad Danley
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:23 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Recording and transmitting wav files

 

Is it possible to record wav files for use with F1-F8 keys using the headset mic while connected to the radio using Ctrl/Shift/F4 for example, instead of using a usb mic?  If so where can I find the complete step-by-step instructions for use with my Windows 10 pc?  Having trouble understanding whether I should select Use Logger+ Audio under Config, or configure the Audio under the Config Ports config menu – and how the settings for the correct option should be set.

 

So far all I have managed to do it to get the rig to key for a few seconds when I press F4 in S&P mode when I enable Use Logger+ Audio, but there is no audio transmitted.

 

Thank you in advance for the help!

 

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Ron
 

Tom,

Excellent. I deleted all the manually added, put this version on all Lan connected PC's and everything seems to be auto jubulating like a champ !
Ron, WV4P


On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 15:16, Tom Wagner (N1MM) <n1mmtomwagner@...> wrote:
Subsequent testing of the version below showed unreliable connections
when two or more PCs were on the same LAN (e.g. they can see each other
both through Hamachi and directly via LAN address).  I changed the code
to prefer connected through Hamachi and initial testing shows it working
reliably now. I need more testers.

It's called:

Updated Hamachi code try Hamachi first, if none, use local LAN address

and it is at:

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

73,

Tom

On 4/25/2020 2:05 PM, Tom wrote:
> W1VE & I tested a paid Hamachi network just now.  We were able to
> replicate the issue with autoconfig, and I have posted a fix in the
> experimental area. It is marked "For W1VE". You are welcome to try it.
>
> https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/
>
> Tom - N1MM
>
> On 4/25/2020 10:55 AM, Ted Bryant wrote:
>> I've been reading W4IEE's posts with interest. Our local club is
>> planning a distributed multi-op for today's Florida QSO Party. We
>> will be using a VPN through LogMeIn Hamachi.
>>
>> I have two networks set up at Hamachi.  Both of these are mesh
>> networks. One is the "free" network for up to 5 computers.  We have
>> tested with 5 computers at 5 different locations and everything works
>> as it should.  Autoconfig works correctly with no addresses in the
>> computer address list.  N1MM Logger works just like we were on the
>> same LAN.
>>
>> The second network is a subscribed network for up to 32 computers.  I
>> have tested it with only 2 computers from my QTH. One is a laptop
>> connected to the internet via a cell phone as a hot spot and the
>> other is my normal radio pc connected to the internet through my home
>> network.
>>
>> With the LogMeIn Hamachi app running, each computer can join the
>> subscribed network.  Using the Hamachi ping function, I can ping each
>> computer from the other. For this network the N1MM autoconfig does
>> not work. To establish the network connection it is necessary to put
>> an address of the "other" computer in the computer address list of
>> either.  If more than 2 computers were networked, I suspect they
>> would all require complete addresses in each to network properly. 
>> After the weekend activities, I intend to find out.
>>
>> I don't understand why the behavior of the subscribed network is
>> different than the free with respect to the autoconfig.
>>
>> 73, Ted W4NZ
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On
>> Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
>> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:59 PM
>> To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
>>
>> That is not a use case we have tested.  I did just check and the UDP
>> broadcast which allows autoconfig is still sent, even if there are
>> entries in the computer addresses table. Likely those stations receiving
>> the message will be able to autoconfig even with others already
>> specified.
>>
>> If autoconfig is working all the computers should be found without
>> putting entries in the table.
>>
>> Re Hamachi configuration issues, then their support knows far more than
>> I about that.  Tell them you want the simplest default configuration -
>> i.e. a mesh network.
>>
>> It may be possible that the autoconfig message will not reach all the
>> computers in your network. We only tested with 5.  But you should keep
>> pursuing whether each of those Hamachi clients was installed properly.
>> When installing programs that you intend to allow connecting externally
>> (like Hamachi and N1MM+), you need to be careful to ALLOW them to do
>> so.  Windows will ask if you are sure.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/2020 1:47 PM, Tom Porada wrote:
>>> Network Status autopopulate...
>>>
>>> It appears that:
>>>
>>> if one entry is made manually then all entries have to be made
>>> manually.
>>>
>>> if the one (or all?) manual entry is removed, then the network status
>>> window closed, then the network status window is reopened, then the
>>> Network status automatically repopulates.
>>>
>>> Have only done this on two computers.
>>>
>>> Is that how it should work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also - the Hamachi diagnostic turns *yellow* on most stations
>>> indicating a firewall problem. In going deeper in the Windows firewall
>>> properties and unprotecting the Hamachi check box for Domain, Public
>>> and Private - then doing a rediagnose on Hamachi - checks show a
>>> *green* checkbox.
>>>
>>> But
>>>
>>> Whether the Hamachi diagnostic box is yellow or green we do not see
>>> any impact on the Network Status window. or log operation - So, we
>>> went back and re checked the boxes noted above and Hamachi shows
>>> yellow again but everything seems to work.
>>>
>>> We are accepting any anomalies we have seen so far and will go with
>>> what we have for the FL QSO party tomorrow with 9 stations in the mesh.
>>>
>>> Tom W4IEE
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>




Re: Recording and transmitting wav files

VE9AA - Mike
 

Yes. I do it here (as do lots of folks)
Mic--->computers mic input--->computers headphone out--->mic input on radio.

Easy peasy.

Simply put; your computer is inserted in your microphone line.  No need for a tutorial.

GL !
--
Mike VE9AA


Re: Recording and transmitting wav files

ve3ki
 

Logic dictates that in order to record a wav file, the microphone must be connected to a sound card (analog-to-digital converter) to create a digital wav file.

Is there a sound card (usb audio codec) inside the radio? If there isn't, messages can only be recorded from a microphone must be connected to the computer.

If there is a usb audio codec inside the radio, then you may be able to do on-the-fly recording from a microphone that is connected directly to the radio (assuming the radio has been designed to support this recording capability).

There are significant changes in sound card management between Windows XP and later versions of Windows. The audio tab in the Configurer was retained for compatibility with Windows XP. In a Windows 10 computer, you should use Logger+ Audio. Assuming your radio has an internal usb audio codec that has on-the-fly recording capability, then check the "Internal Radio Codec" check box under the Playback tab in the Logger+ Audio Setup window, and select the radio's usb audio codec as the sound card under both Playback and Message Recording tabs. Use the controls under the Monitor tab to help adjust sound levels.

If there is no usb audio codec inside the radio, you can still use Logger+ Audio, but you should not check the Internal Radio Codec check box, and the sound card selections will have to reflect the sound card that is connected to the radio's line input for playback, and the sound card that the microphone is connected to for message recording.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 03:22 PM, Tad Danley wrote:

Is it possible to record wav files for use with F1-F8 keys using the headset mic while connected to the radio using Ctrl/Shift/F4 for example, instead of using a usb mic?  If so where can I find the complete step-by-step instructions for use with my Windows 10 pc?  Having trouble understanding whether I should select Use Logger+ Audio under Config, or configure the Audio under the Config Ports config menu – and how the settings for the correct option should be set.

 

So far all I have managed to do it to get the rig to key for a few seconds when I press F4 in S&P mode when I enable Use Logger+ Audio, but there is no audio transmitted.

 

Thank you in advance for the help!

 

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

Subsequent testing of the version below showed unreliable connections when two or more PCs were on the same LAN (e.g. they can see each other both through Hamachi and directly via LAN address).  I changed the code to prefer connected through Hamachi and initial testing shows it working reliably now. I need more testers.

It's called:

Updated Hamachi code try Hamachi first, if none, use local LAN address

and it is at:

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

73,

Tom

On 4/25/2020 2:05 PM, Tom wrote:
W1VE & I tested a paid Hamachi network just now.  We were able to replicate the issue with autoconfig, and I have posted a fix in the experimental area. It is marked "For W1VE". You are welcome to try it.

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

Tom - N1MM

On 4/25/2020 10:55 AM, Ted Bryant wrote:
I've been reading W4IEE's posts with interest. Our local club is planning a distributed multi-op for today's Florida QSO Party. We will be using a VPN through LogMeIn Hamachi.

I have two networks set up at Hamachi.  Both of these are mesh networks. One is the "free" network for up to 5 computers.  We have tested with 5 computers at 5 different locations and everything works as it should.  Autoconfig works correctly with no addresses in the computer address list.  N1MM Logger works just like we were on the same LAN.

The second network is a subscribed network for up to 32 computers.  I have tested it with only 2 computers from my QTH. One is a laptop connected to the internet via a cell phone as a hot spot and the other is my normal radio pc connected to the internet through my home network.

With the LogMeIn Hamachi app running, each computer can join the subscribed network.  Using the Hamachi ping function, I can ping each computer from the other. For this network the N1MM autoconfig does not work. To establish the network connection it is necessary to put an address of the "other" computer in the computer address list of either.  If more than 2 computers were networked, I suspect they would all require complete addresses in each to network properly.  After the weekend activities, I intend to find out.

I don't understand why the behavior of the subscribed network is different than the free with respect to the autoconfig.

73, Ted W4NZ



-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:59 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

That is not a use case we have tested.  I did just check and the UDP
broadcast which allows autoconfig is still sent, even if there are
entries in the computer addresses table. Likely those stations receiving
the message will be able to autoconfig even with others already specified.

If autoconfig is working all the computers should be found without
putting entries in the table.

Re Hamachi configuration issues, then their support knows far more than
I about that.  Tell them you want the simplest default configuration -
i.e. a mesh network.

It may be possible that the autoconfig message will not reach all the
computers in your network. We only tested with 5.  But you should keep
pursuing whether each of those Hamachi clients was installed properly.
When installing programs that you intend to allow connecting externally
(like Hamachi and N1MM+), you need to be careful to ALLOW them to do
so.  Windows will ask if you are sure.

73,

Tom


On 4/24/2020 1:47 PM, Tom Porada wrote:
Network Status autopopulate...

It appears that:

if one entry is made manually then all entries have to be made manually.

if the one (or all?) manual entry is removed, then the network status
window closed, then the network status window is reopened, then the
Network status automatically repopulates.

Have only done this on two computers.

Is that how it should work?



Also - the Hamachi diagnostic turns *yellow* on most stations
indicating a firewall problem. In going deeper in the Windows firewall
properties and unprotecting the Hamachi check box for Domain, Public
and Private - then doing a rediagnose on Hamachi - checks show a
*green* checkbox.

But

Whether the Hamachi diagnostic box is yellow or green we do not see
any impact on the Network Status window. or log operation - So, we
went back and re checked the boxes noted above and Hamachi shows
yellow again but everything seems to work.

We are accepting any anomalies we have seen so far and will go with
what we have for the FL QSO party tomorrow with 9 stations in the mesh.

Tom W4IEE



Recording and transmitting wav files

Tad Danley
 

Is it possible to record wav files for use with F1-F8 keys using the headset mic while connected to the radio using Ctrl/Shift/F4 for example, instead of using a usb mic?  If so where can I find the complete step-by-step instructions for use with my Windows 10 pc?  Having trouble understanding whether I should select Use Logger+ Audio under Config, or configure the Audio under the Config Ports config menu – and how the settings for the correct option should be set.

 

So far all I have managed to do it to get the rig to key for a few seconds when I press F4 in S&P mode when I enable Use Logger+ Audio, but there is no audio transmitted.

 

Thank you in advance for the help!

 

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 


Re: Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests

VE2FK
 

Steve are you using the latest version of N1MM+  and have
youo choose SPDXRTTY module ?
 
Claude VE2FK
 

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests
 
Hi everyone,
Rookie question.  I am having trouble entering the province into the exchange field (along with S/N) for the 2020 contest today.  I keep receiving an error when I try to log the contact.
Do we have to following the instructions from last year (above)?
If not, what is the correct format?
Thanks for any help.
73, de Steve (N1TYH)

Garanti sans virus. www.avg.com


Re: Call history files for N1MM+ for SPDX and SPDXRTTY contests

Steve Olivieri
 

Hi everyone,
Rookie question.  I am having trouble entering the province into the exchange field (along with S/N) for the 2020 contest today.  I keep receiving an error when I try to log the contact.
Do we have to following the instructions from last year (above)?
If not, what is the correct format?
Thanks for any help.
73, de Steve (N1TYH)


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Tom Wagner (N1MM)
 

W1VE & I tested a paid Hamachi network just now.  We were able to replicate the issue with autoconfig, and I have posted a fix in the experimental area. It is marked "For W1VE". You are welcome to try it.

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/categories/programexperimental/

Tom - N1MM

On 4/25/2020 10:55 AM, Ted Bryant wrote:
I've been reading W4IEE's posts with interest. Our local club is planning a distributed multi-op for today's Florida QSO Party. We will be using a VPN through LogMeIn Hamachi.

I have two networks set up at Hamachi. Both of these are mesh networks. One is the "free" network for up to 5 computers. We have tested with 5 computers at 5 different locations and everything works as it should. Autoconfig works correctly with no addresses in the computer address list. N1MM Logger works just like we were on the same LAN.

The second network is a subscribed network for up to 32 computers. I have tested it with only 2 computers from my QTH. One is a laptop connected to the internet via a cell phone as a hot spot and the other is my normal radio pc connected to the internet through my home network.

With the LogMeIn Hamachi app running, each computer can join the subscribed network. Using the Hamachi ping function, I can ping each computer from the other. For this network the N1MM autoconfig does not work. To establish the network connection it is necessary to put an address of the "other" computer in the computer address list of either. If more than 2 computers were networked, I suspect they would all require complete addresses in each to network properly. After the weekend activities, I intend to find out.

I don't understand why the behavior of the subscribed network is different than the free with respect to the autoconfig.

73, Ted W4NZ



-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Wagner (N1MM)
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:59 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

That is not a use case we have tested. I did just check and the UDP
broadcast which allows autoconfig is still sent, even if there are
entries in the computer addresses table. Likely those stations receiving
the message will be able to autoconfig even with others already specified.

If autoconfig is working all the computers should be found without
putting entries in the table.

Re Hamachi configuration issues, then their support knows far more than
I about that. Tell them you want the simplest default configuration -
i.e. a mesh network.

It may be possible that the autoconfig message will not reach all the
computers in your network. We only tested with 5. But you should keep
pursuing whether each of those Hamachi clients was installed properly.
When installing programs that you intend to allow connecting externally
(like Hamachi and N1MM+), you need to be careful to ALLOW them to do
so. Windows will ask if you are sure.

73,

Tom


On 4/24/2020 1:47 PM, Tom Porada wrote:
Network Status autopopulate...

It appears that:

if one entry is made manually then all entries have to be made manually.

if the one (or all?) manual entry is removed, then the network status
window closed, then the network status window is reopened, then the
Network status automatically repopulates.

Have only done this on two computers.

Is that how it should work?



Also - the Hamachi diagnostic turns *yellow* on most stations
indicating a firewall problem. In going deeper in the Windows firewall
properties and unprotecting the Hamachi check box for Domain, Public
and Private - then doing a rediagnose on Hamachi - checks show a
*green* checkbox.

But

Whether the Hamachi diagnostic box is yellow or green we do not see
any impact on the Network Status window. or log operation - So, we
went back and re checked the boxes noted above and Hamachi shows
yellow again but everything seems to work.

We are accepting any anomalies we have seen so far and will go with
what we have for the FL QSO party tomorrow with 9 stations in the mesh.

Tom W4IEE



Re: N1MM Logger Not Seeing Radio

ve3ki
 

Have you followed the advice at <https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-supported/supported-radios/#ft-991>?

When the radio is connected to the computer via the USB cable, there should be two new COM ports showing up in the Windows Device Manager. The "Enhanced" port is the one you need to configure for rig control in the N1MM+ Configurer. You need to use the Silicon Labs drivers, not the default Windows drivers.

None of this has anything to do with the USB audio codec used for FT8, other than the fact that the codec and the serial ports happen to share a single USB cable. The audio codec drivers are completely separate from the serial port drivers.

73,
Rich VE3KI



On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 10:56 AM, Michael Hammerberg wrote:
Hello Group,

I am installing N1MM+ for the first time.  It appears N1MM is not seeing my FT991.  I do have my PC and radio set up for FT8 which works ok.  Is it possible the drivers for FT8 are preventing the radio and N1MM from not talking to one another?  Do I need to install a new driver?  I am running windows 10.

Thanks,

Mike K8AGY


Re: 10-10 Digital QP

Jeff WB9DAR
 

MMTTY by Hamsoft

73
Jeff

On Apr 25, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Ed Felter <edfelter@...> wrote:



Thought I would see if 10 meters might open up today.  Any suggestions for a RTTY program-just in case?  

Ed, AI6O 


Re: Question Abt UDC file

Oguzhan Kayhan
 

Hello,
Mainly,
Actually, two main categories FM or SSB/CW
All qso's must include a TA station to be valid on contest..

These are the main rules. rest is about pointing which i solved already.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:11 PM Les Elliott via groups.io
<g4ogb=tiscali.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Where are the new rules?

Les, G4OGB

-----Original Message-----
From: Oguzhan Kayhan
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:23 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Question Abt UDC file

Hello,
trying to update the udc vhf contest according to new rules.

I'd like to change the point calculation just for specific prefixes.. So,
I changed the IsWorkable =TA,TB,TC
What I want is to setup a contest which only accepts this prefixes
acceptable for this contest..

Yes.. when I type a test callsign ta1aa it accepts it..
And when I type ea1aa , it shows the callsign as grey.. but it also
adds this qso to the points
Is there any way to prevent this from happening?
Maybe not calculating in score only?