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Re: 7QP

bmanning
 

Tad

Yes, I have N1MM+ already for tomorrow. Hope to make a bunch of QSO's. I will be handing out the rare PA Multiplier :)

CW only of course.

73

 Bruce NJ3K CWOPS #2431

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 19:03:26 -0400, Tad Danley <tdanley@...> wrote:

Hi Bruce, I'm running the latest version of N1MM+

When I select QSO Party as the New Log, I get a separate box drop down with IN7QPNE listed alphabetically.

 

73,

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rory Sena
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP

 

So what does one do when IN7QPNE doesn't show up in the pulldown, I'm in the 6th call area?

 

Rory-N6OIL

 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:42 PM bmanning <bmanning@...> wrote:

I think it's great to have the program designed to allow us to operate this way. N1MM+ continues to impress me.

73

Bruce NJ3K 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Ted Bryant <tlbryant02@...>

Date: 4/30/20 16:44 (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP

 

Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select "New Log", select "QSO Party" and "7QP" from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message "Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section."

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a "7QP" selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM




 
-- 
Bruce A. Manning


Re: Missing Multipliers - Florida QSO Party

Ted Bryant
 

“…Cabrillo file does show the correct number of QSO's, but does not list the State of the stations work…”

 

Norm,

 

Can you copy and paste a QSO line here from your Cabrillo so we can have a look?

 

73, Ted W4NZ

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman Alexander
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:14 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Missing Multipliers - Florida QSO Party

 

I participated in the Florida QSO Party in special category called Virtual Mobile where several of us operated with a common Station Call, but from different Counties all at different one hour periods.  I  created a New Log, using the QSO Party format and operating in State.  
The problem - The Scoring tally does not show the correct QSO count (it is less) then are listed in the log, and NO multiplier count is listed - thus no Score
Further, the Cabrillo file does show the correct number of QSO's, but does not list the State of the stations work, the RST report is there, but not the Multiplier/State

Examining the log in ADIF format, all the information is present, correct QSO count, and in the <APP_N1MM_EXCHANGE1  all the States or DX PFX are listed.
I have no idea how the CABRILLO file or the Scoring window processes the log data so at a loss of where to look -
Looking for answers to my question - "Now what do I do?"
--
Norm W4QN


Re: 7QP

Rory Sena
 

Thanks, Rich, my first time using N1MM for QSO parties I always used N3FJP for those.

Rory-N6OIL

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:03 PM ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:
As for other state QSO parties, the contest type in the main contest selection window is QSOPARTY. You select IN7QPNE from the secondary selector called "State for Log Type QSOPARtY" (right side of the window about halfway down).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:58 PM, Rory Sena wrote:
So what does one do when IN7QPNE doesn't show up in the pulldown, I'm in the 6th call area?
 
Rory-N6OIL

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:42 PM bmanning <bmanning@...> wrote:
I think it's great to have the program designed to allow us to operate this way. N1MM+ continues to impress me.
73
Bruce NJ3K 
 
 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 
 
-------- Original message --------
From: Ted Bryant <tlbryant02@...>
Date: 4/30/20 16:44 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP
 
Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select “New Log”, select “QSO Party” and “7QP” from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message “Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section.”

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a “7QP” selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM





 

 


Re: Latest MorseRunner; deleting zero QSO logs from database

ve3ki
 

Re your second question, yes you can delete contests with 0 QSOs. In the log selection dialog, select the log in question (if it was the very top log in the list, select another one first and then go back and select the top one, i.e. make it an explicit selection instead of just accepting the default) and then press the Delete key. You will be given one more chance to back out before the contest is actually deleted.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 04:15 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

In the latest Morserunner plug-in for MM, the only info you get is the standard Score window.  Any chance of getting a little more detail, a la Morserunner itself - like busted calls, exchanges?  And am I missing something, or will the program not let you delete contests with 0 QSOs from the database?

-- 
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network 
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now 
spotting RTTY activity worldwide. 
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.


USB COM14 not working message

Skip
 

Can someone tell me what this error notice [in the subject line] really means?  COM14 is one of the 4 RRC1258 virtual ports, it is RRC COM1 and handles the CAT connection to the remote K3.  The notice comes up the first time right after the N1MM+ splash screen appears, and then comes up two more times as N1MM initializes and the windows appear.

Windows tells me that all the USB COM ports are working fine. I've done all the usual [reboot, remove all the USB-reboot-reinsert USB, try different USB sockets] with no change.  Rebooting the RRC1258 doesn't fix it either.

Usually, when something is wrong with the CAT connection, N1MM+ comes up and eventually gives me the lost radio contact, retry? notice.  The subject message happens immediately.

Thanks,

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

ve3ki
 

Yes, but...if the rule in 4.1 doesn't apply to class E, then the "General Rules for all ARRL Contests" take over, don't they? General rule 3.7 says "All transmitters and receivers must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle, excluding antennas."

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 04:21 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
Reread his email....look for A and then look for E.....I think you’ll see the difference.....

 

On Apr 30, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Diane Saunders <k0dslae@...> wrote:

There is just one problem with N8SBE's statement that you can use the (or a) club's call sign while operating in a distributed multi-operator environment - "Use the club call (with the permission of the call trustee), and coordinate your operation so you remain within the max number of signals you wish to enter under.
 
The FD Rules, paragraph 4.1 specifically, says ALL equipment and antennas must be within that 1,000' diameter circle (see below).  You cannot do it as class A and use a club call when your operators are all outside of that circle operating via a WAN.  A club can use a LAN inside the circle to connect all of the operating positions to log under one call.  But for distributed multi-operator where the operators are outside of the circle, the only way this works is to go as an individual and all those individual operators connect via the distributed framework.  Then you can do it using a common call sign; it just can't be a club call.  Otherwise, you will have to operate your own and using your own call sign.
 
 
 
"4.1. (Class A) Club / non-club portable: Club or a non-club group of three or more persons set up
specifically for Field Day. Such stations must be located in places that are not regular station locations and must not
use facilities installed for permanent station use, or use any structure installed permanently for Field Day. A single
licensee or trustee for the entry is responsible for the group entry. All equipment (including antennas) must lie
within a circle whose diameter does not exceed 300 meters (1000 feet).
To be listed as Class A, all contacts must be
made with transmitter(s) and receiver(s) operating independent of commercial power mains. Entrants whom for any
reason operate a transmitter or receiver from a commercial main for one or more contacts will be listed separately as
Class A-Commercial."
 
This is how I see it.  Maybe the ARRL could comment on this.
 
Diane K0DSL

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:50 AM Dave New, N8SBE <n8sbe@...> wrote:
Folks,
 
In my mind, a pandemic is also a valid emergency situation, one which we don't even have to simulate these days. 
 
A pandemic has the peculiar feature of leaving the infrastructure largely intact (power, water, Internet, etc) while crippling all direct face-to-face interoperability, including the ability to put together classical multi-multi or multi-single operations.
 
That is where the adapting comes in.  And it turns out that no change in the FD rules are needed, either.  Operate as class 4E, for example, with multiple locations.  There is nothing in the FD rules prohibiting this.  Only class A stations need be located within a 1000 ft. circle.  Class E (and most others) have no such restriction.
 
So, run your distributed multi-multi under class E with a single callsign and claim the number of simultaneous transmitter/modes you have on the air, and Bob's your Uncle.  No need to qualify your entry.  Use the club call (with the permission of the call trustee), and coordinate your operation so you remain within the max number of signals you wish to enter under.  The only issue is keeping your neighbors sane while running a generator all night in a quiet neighborhood.  Maybe you can run from batteries all night?  Think outside the box.
 
I realize this means shifting the usual class A competition to class E, for this year at least, but it could be a lot worse.  Buck up, and stop whining.  Get out there and make this Field Day a success, using class E stations, instead of class A.  Maybe next year, we can go back to non-pandemic mode.  In the meantime, we will have successfully shown how we adapted to a pandemic situation and still managed to effectively jam the airwaves with signals.
 
73,
 
-- Dave, N8SBE (Joint U of M and ARROW Field Day coordinator)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
From: "AB2ZY" <akozak@...>
Date: Tue, April 28, 2020 7:56 pm
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>

OK, that was my penultimate word. This is the ultimate:
 
Instead of operating with a large group, grab your IC-703 (or whatever you have), a  multiband dipole (G5RV or similar) or a multiband vertical (I have one I have been using “temporarily” for 2 years)  stuck in a bucket of sand with 16 radials, a camping generator and a laptop. Go out in your yard. The deck. Drive to a trailhead. Empty parking lot. Anywhere you can maintain social distancing. Operate from there, vying for mainly regional contacts. Operate 1B.  You will have fun. You will not need the internet.
 
Of course, if you go mainly for the food, beverages and company that may be less than satisfying. But still better than operating 1D.
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: Al Kozakiewicz
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:16 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: RE: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
My last word on the subject:
 
I “object” because you can’t simulate preparation for an actual emergency communications situation by assuming that the mainstream technologies that need replacing are fully functional in such an emergency!
 
I thought the ARRL’s suggested adaptations were within the spirit of FD while not turning it into another contest.
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:28 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
Sorry, Al, you are missing the point.  Distributed or co-located, all the QSOs are made in the traditional way with RF.  When the stations are co-located, the logging computers (instead of paper and pencil) are connected through a local network (LAN).  When “distributed”, the computers are networked through a Wide Area Network (WAN), i.e., the “internet”.  Computer to computer communication is essentially the same in either case, just the distance has changed.
 
I’m sure you know all this but I can’t understand why you would object to how the logging computers communicate with each other.
 
But all this aside, the real point I was making is the irony of the fact that ARRL was saying that we should “adapt” while refusing a request to do just that. And it has nothing to do with whether it’s a contest or not.
 
73, Ted W4NZ
 
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of AB2ZY
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:26 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
I dunno, but Field Day is supposed to be a simulation (perhaps stuck in a 1950s paradigm, but a simulation nonetheless) of using amateur radio to supplement or replace conventional communications infrastructure. So in the 21st century if you have access to a working Internet you have no need for supplemental wireless communications. If you’re going to have people sit home and communicate with radio equipment via the internet, then just conduct the exercise over the internet and dispense with the radios!  I think the ARRL is doing the right thing here. FD ain’t a contest!
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:58 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
“…we wrote to the ARRL Contest Committee folks suggesting that they adapt to the current situation by including a "distributed multi-op" category for Field Day 2020…”
 
“"The ARRL Board’s Programs & Services Committee has upheld the current Field Day posture of no changes for 2020 ….… the theme of adapting is apropos.”
 
HUH?
73, Ted W4NZ
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry K8UT
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:45 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Cc: wa8efk@...; Jahnke, Bart, W9JJ
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
Considering N1MM+'s recent VPN improvements - and the COVID-19 lockdowns - we wrote to the ARRL Contest Committee folks suggesting that they adapt to the current situation by including a "distributed multi-op" category for Field Day 2020.
 
The response:
"The ARRL Board’s Programs & Services Committee has upheld the current Field Day posture of no changes for 2020. Recognizing that Field Day is not a contest, but instead is an operating exercise, the theme of adapting is apropos."
 
As other contests have begun allowing distributed multi-op, we have heard from clubs that intend to operate Field Day in a similar distributed multi-op architecture. We advise any club that participates using an unsanctioned category to clearly identify their rules violation to the ARRL and in any log submission.
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@...>
Sent: 2020-04-28 10:15:10
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
not really MM reflector content, but I read that newletter twice, and I dont see where they added a class 1A....
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Joe WB9SBD" <nss@...>
Sent: 4/28/2020 10:08:15 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
My first about it came like this,
Dear Central Division Member -
 
        There have been many suggestions forchanges to the rules for
Field Day-2020 on account of the present social distancing requirements.
Below is today's message from the ARRL  HQ's Contest Manager,  Paul
Bourque,  N1SFE that explains a change to the listing of club names for
Field Day  participants . ALL participants will have that participant's
club name associated with their listing.
 
         73, Kermit Carlson W9XA
 
details followed,,
 
>From the ARRL NEWS;
 
04/22/2020
 
This year, ARRL Field Day promises to be a unique iteration of this
annual event, with many individuals and groups coming up with new and
interesting ways to adjust their approach. As an event, Field Day is
structured to be versatile and can be adapted for any situation.
 
Many groups have asked how they can adjust their Field Day planning to
address social-distancing guidelines that may be in effect in many areas
of the country, as gathering at their traditional Field Day site may not
be feasible or safe. Instead of participating in a group event this
year, consider operating as a Class B, C, D, or E station, utilizing
your own call sign.
 
ARRL will include club names for all participating stations in the
published results, so the efforts of your club’s members can be
acknowledged. While we will not publish an aggregate club score, seeing
the name of your club associated with various individual member’s
results is certainly a way to highlight your club’s activity.
 
Myriad opportunities are possible in this year’s Field Day setting.
These are just a couple.
 
    Consider having an intra-club competition among members, seeing who
can make the most contacts during the event. You can award prizes or
distribute certificates at a club meeting. This can be a fun way to
bolster the activities of individual club members, even though they
cannot all gather together at the same location this year.
    Set up a Field Day Challenge with rival clubs in neighboring
communities. See how many members of each club get on the air from their
own stations and participate in the event. In addition to “bragging
rights,” perhaps certificates to the top-scoring individual entries in
each category can be presented as part of this inter-club camaraderie.
 
One club is planning to conduct its Field Day as a 4A club group, with
participants spaced to comply with social distancing guidelines within
the required 1,000-foot diameter circle and operating individual
stations. This club also plans to set up a “Get on the Air” (GOTA)
station. The club’s plan is to have the GOTA coach at the Field Day
site, while GOTA operators participate via remote link.
 
Another club is planning to set up a remote-controlled station at its
usual Field Day site, with club members taking turns controlling the
station from their homes. The club is developing a schedule that
outlines when each member of the club will be at the helm via the remote
link.
 
Whatever approach you take to this year’s Field Day, keep up to date
with the current guidelines issued by local and state health agencies
that may impact your proposed operation.
 
ARRL invites your stories about the interesting and creative ways
you’re planning to use to adapt your Field Day operation. Share these
on the ARRL Field Day Facebook page.
 
For the latest news and updates, visit the Field Day webpage. —
 
 Thanks to ARRL Contest Program Manager Paul Bourque, N1SFE
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
ARRL Central Division
Director: Kermit A Carlson, W9XA
w9xa@...
 

 

 

 



--
Diane Saunders
K0DSL
763-807-8772


Last test

Skip
 

Last test of email [mal] function

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


Re: 7QP

Tad Danley
 

Hi Bruce, I’m running the latest version of N1MM+

When I select QSO Party as the New Log, I get a separate box drop down with IN7QPNE listed alphabetically.

 

73,

 

Tad Danley, K3TD

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rory Sena
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP

 

So what does one do when IN7QPNE doesn't show up in the pulldown, I'm in the 6th call area?

 

Rory-N6OIL

 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:42 PM bmanning <bmanning@...> wrote:

I think it's great to have the program designed to allow us to operate this way. N1MM+ continues to impress me.

73

Bruce NJ3K 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Ted Bryant <tlbryant02@...>

Date: 4/30/20 16:44 (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP

 

Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select “New Log”, select “QSO Party” and “7QP” from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message “Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section.”

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a “7QP” selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM





Re: 7QP

ve3ki
 

As for other state QSO parties, the contest type in the main contest selection window is QSOPARTY. You select IN7QPNE from the secondary selector called "State for Log Type QSOPARtY" (right side of the window about halfway down).

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:58 PM, Rory Sena wrote:
So what does one do when IN7QPNE doesn't show up in the pulldown, I'm in the 6th call area?
 
Rory-N6OIL

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:42 PM bmanning <bmanning@...> wrote:
I think it's great to have the program designed to allow us to operate this way. N1MM+ continues to impress me.
73
Bruce NJ3K 
 
 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 
 
-------- Original message --------
From: Ted Bryant <tlbryant02@...>
Date: 4/30/20 16:44 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP
 
Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select “New Log”, select “QSO Party” and “7QP” from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message “Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section.”

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a “7QP” selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM





 

 


Test

Skip
 

Just a test tracking strange behavior in the email universe

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


Re: 7QP

Rory Sena
 

So what does one do when IN7QPNE doesn't show up in the pulldown, I'm in the 6th call area?

Rory-N6OIL

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:42 PM bmanning <bmanning@...> wrote:
I think it's great to have the program designed to allow us to operate this way. N1MM+ continues to impress me.
73
Bruce NJ3K 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Ted Bryant <tlbryant02@...>
Date: 4/30/20 16:44 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP

Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select “New Log”, select “QSO Party” and “7QP” from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message “Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section.”

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a “7QP” selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM






Re: Networking problem

 

Are you using the latest N1MM+ release ?

Tom N1MM and Larry K8UT
Recently held a Zoom conference 
Only about 8 people attended
Everyone used LogMeIn Hamachi ‘s VPN tool

We should see a recording of that session released 
Soon

The tool set was easy to use 

Steve
KG5VK 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:19 PM Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapoint@...> wrote:
I'm trying to get multiop contesting setup using my remote site. I have
a VPN server running at the site, and we can all VPN in with no problem.

We can ping the server system from our home computers (all Win10) when
the vpn link is active.  N1MM++ does not see the server site from each
home site.

What else should be checked?  VNC works fine (with the VPN active)

Gordon - N1MGO




--
Steve
KG5VK
Tele 318-470-9806
ARRL NTX Section Manager 
Please note: My Out Going Email address is LottsPhoto@...
KG5VK@... is forwarded to my Gmail address


Networking problem

Gordon LaPoint
 

I'm trying to get multiop contesting setup using my remote site. I have a VPN server running at the site, and we can all VPN in with no problem.

We can ping the server system from our home computers (all Win10) when the vpn link is active.  N1MM++ does not see the server site from each home site.

What else should be checked?  VNC works fine (with the VPN active)

Gordon - N1MGO


Re: 7QP

bmanning
 

I think it's great to have the program designed to allow us to operate this way. N1MM+ continues to impress me.
73
Bruce NJ3K 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Ted Bryant <tlbryant02@...>
Date: 4/30/20 16:44 (GMT-05:00)
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] 7QP

Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select “New Log”, select “QSO Party” and “7QP” from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message “Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section.”

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a “7QP” selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM






Re: Missing Multipliers - Florida QSO Party

John Bednar
 

Norm,

 

If anyone edited a QSO after logging you need to rescore.

The rescore button is on the bottom of Score window.

 

Dupes are not included in the Score window.

 

Make sure your ARRL Section is correct in the Station Window.

 

If you can’t figure it out, exit the program and direct email me your database.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Norman Alexander
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:14 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Missing Multipliers - Florida QSO Party

 

I participated in the Florida QSO Party in special category called Virtual Mobile where several of us operated with a common Station Call, but from different Counties all at different one hour periods.  I  created a New Log, using the QSO Party format and operating in State.  
The problem - The Scoring tally does not show the correct QSO count (it is less) then are listed in the log, and NO multiplier count is listed - thus no Score
Further, the Cabrillo file does show the correct number of QSO's, but does not list the State of the stations work, the RST report is there, but not the Multiplier/State

Examining the log in ADIF format, all the information is present, correct QSO count, and in the <APP_N1MM_EXCHANGE1  all the States or DX PFX are listed.
I have no idea how the CABRILLO file or the Scoring window processes the log data so at a loss of where to look -
Looking for answers to my question - "Now what do I do?"
--
Norm W4QN


Re: 7QP

Ted Bryant
 

Rich,

Please refer to VE3KI's April 28 message about this very thing:
<https://groups.io/g/N1MMLoggerPlus/message/50166?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,7qp,20,2,0,73328360>

" ...the 7QP selection is only for "in-state" participants, i.e. persons operating from within the original 7th call area. Likewise, the IN selection is only for persons operating from within Indiana, the NEWE selection is only for persons operating from within the New England states, and the DE selection is only for persons operating from within Delaware. Persons operating from anywhere else should use the IN7QPNE selection.

The program determines whether you are "in-state" or "out-of-state" for each of these contests from your ARRL section.

If you only want to enter one of the contests, submit your Cabrillo file to only that one contest.

73,
Rich VE3KI"

73, Ted W4NZ

-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Seifert
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 3:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] 7QP

Trying to set up my station for the 7QP this weekend. Everything loads just fine:

I select “New Log”, select “QSO Party” and “7QP” from the pulldown. All of my function keys from previous years are there are correct (CW, SSB, and RTTY), and it even downloaded the latest Call History. So far, so good.

Until I try to log a (valid) contact! I get an error message “Invalid contest. Select either IN7QPNE or change your ARRL section.”

Now, I understand that the IN7QPNE log will accept QSOs for all three contest this weekend, but I really only plan to operate in the 7QP. Is this no longer an option? Why is there still a “7QP” selection in the pull-down menu?

Rich KE1B/K6MMM


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Jamie WW3S
 

Reread his email....look for A and then look for E.....I think you’ll see the difference.....


On Apr 30, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Diane Saunders <k0dslae@...> wrote:


There is just one problem with N8SBE's statement that you can use the (or a) club's call sign while operating in a distributed multi-operator environment - "Use the club call (with the permission of the call trustee), and coordinate your operation so you remain within the max number of signals you wish to enter under.

The FD Rules, paragraph 4.1 specifically, says ALL equipment and antennas must be within that 1,000' diameter circle (see below).  You cannot do it as class A and use a club call when your operators are all outside of that circle operating via a WAN.  A club can use a LAN inside the circle to connect all of the operating positions to log under one call.  But for distributed multi-operator where the operators are outside of the circle, the only way this works is to go as an individual and all those individual operators connect via the distributed framework.  Then you can do it using a common call sign; it just can't be a club call.  Otherwise, you will have to operate your own and using your own call sign.



"4.1. (Class A) Club / non-club portable: Club or a non-club group of three or more persons set up
specifically for Field Day. Such stations must be located in places that are not regular station locations and must not
use facilities installed for permanent station use, or use any structure installed permanently for Field Day. A single
licensee or trustee for the entry is responsible for the group entry. All equipment (including antennas) must lie
within a circle whose diameter does not exceed 300 meters (1000 feet).
To be listed as Class A, all contacts must be
made with transmitter(s) and receiver(s) operating independent of commercial power mains. Entrants whom for any
reason operate a transmitter or receiver from a commercial main for one or more contacts will be listed separately as
Class A-Commercial."

This is how I see it.  Maybe the ARRL could comment on this.

Diane K0DSL

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:50 AM Dave New, N8SBE <n8sbe@...> wrote:
Folks,

In my mind, a pandemic is also a valid emergency situation, one which we don't even have to simulate these days. 

A pandemic has the peculiar feature of leaving the infrastructure largely intact (power, water, Internet, etc) while crippling all direct face-to-face interoperability, including the ability to put together classical multi-multi or multi-single operations.

That is where the adapting comes in.  And it turns out that no change in the FD rules are needed, either.  Operate as class 4E, for example, with multiple locations.  There is nothing in the FD rules prohibiting this.  Only class A stations need be located within a 1000 ft. circle.  Class E (and most others) have no such restriction.

So, run your distributed multi-multi under class E with a single callsign and claim the number of simultaneous transmitter/modes you have on the air, and Bob's your Uncle.  No need to qualify your entry.  Use the club call (with the permission of the call trustee), and coordinate your operation so you remain within the max number of signals you wish to enter under.  The only issue is keeping your neighbors sane while running a generator all night in a quiet neighborhood.  Maybe you can run from batteries all night?  Think outside the box.

I realize this means shifting the usual class A competition to class E, for this year at least, but it could be a lot worse.  Buck up, and stop whining.  Get out there and make this Field Day a success, using class E stations, instead of class A.  Maybe next year, we can go back to non-pandemic mode.  In the meantime, we will have successfully shown how we adapted to a pandemic situation and still managed to effectively jam the airwaves with signals.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE (Joint U of M and ARROW Field Day coordinator)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
From: "AB2ZY" <akozak@...>
Date: Tue, April 28, 2020 7:56 pm
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>

OK, that was my penultimate word. This is the ultimate:
 
Instead of operating with a large group, grab your IC-703 (or whatever you have), a  multiband dipole (G5RV or similar) or a multiband vertical (I have one I have been using “temporarily” for 2 years)  stuck in a bucket of sand with 16 radials, a camping generator and a laptop. Go out in your yard. The deck. Drive to a trailhead. Empty parking lot. Anywhere you can maintain social distancing. Operate from there, vying for mainly regional contacts. Operate 1B.  You will have fun. You will not need the internet.
 
Of course, if you go mainly for the food, beverages and company that may be less than satisfying. But still better than operating 1D.
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: Al Kozakiewicz
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:16 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: RE: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
My last word on the subject:
 
I “object” because you can’t simulate preparation for an actual emergency communications situation by assuming that the mainstream technologies that need replacing are fully functional in such an emergency!
 
I thought the ARRL’s suggested adaptations were within the spirit of FD while not turning it into another contest.
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:28 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
Sorry, Al, you are missing the point.  Distributed or co-located, all the QSOs are made in the traditional way with RF.  When the stations are co-located, the logging computers (instead of paper and pencil) are connected through a local network (LAN).  When “distributed”, the computers are networked through a Wide Area Network (WAN), i.e., the “internet”.  Computer to computer communication is essentially the same in either case, just the distance has changed.
 
I’m sure you know all this but I can’t understand why you would object to how the logging computers communicate with each other.
 
But all this aside, the real point I was making is the irony of the fact that ARRL was saying that we should “adapt” while refusing a request to do just that. And it has nothing to do with whether it’s a contest or not.
 
73, Ted W4NZ
 
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of AB2ZY
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:26 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
I dunno, but Field Day is supposed to be a simulation (perhaps stuck in a 1950s paradigm, but a simulation nonetheless) of using amateur radio to supplement or replace conventional communications infrastructure. So in the 21st century if you have access to a working Internet you have no need for supplemental wireless communications. If you’re going to have people sit home and communicate with radio equipment via the internet, then just conduct the exercise over the internet and dispense with the radios!  I think the ARRL is doing the right thing here. FD ain’t a contest!
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:58 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
“…we wrote to the ARRL Contest Committee folks suggesting that they adapt to the current situation by including a "distributed multi-op" category for Field Day 2020…”
 
“"The ARRL Board’s Programs & Services Committee has upheld the current Field Day posture of no changes for 2020 ….… the theme of adapting is apropos.”
 
HUH?
73, Ted W4NZ
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry K8UT
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:45 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Cc: wa8efk@...; Jahnke, Bart, W9JJ
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
Considering N1MM+'s recent VPN improvements - and the COVID-19 lockdowns - we wrote to the ARRL Contest Committee folks suggesting that they adapt to the current situation by including a "distributed multi-op" category for Field Day 2020.
 
The response:
"The ARRL Board’s Programs & Services Committee has upheld the current Field Day posture of no changes for 2020. Recognizing that Field Day is not a contest, but instead is an operating exercise, the theme of adapting is apropos."
 
As other contests have begun allowing distributed multi-op, we have heard from clubs that intend to operate Field Day in a similar distributed multi-op architecture. We advise any club that participates using an unsanctioned category to clearly identify their rules violation to the ARRL and in any log submission.
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@...>
Sent: 2020-04-28 10:15:10
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
not really MM reflector content, but I read that newletter twice, and I dont see where they added a class 1A....
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Joe WB9SBD" <nss@...>
Sent: 4/28/2020 10:08:15 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
My first about it came like this,
Dear Central Division Member -
 
        There have been many suggestions forchanges to the rules for
Field Day-2020 on account of the present social distancing requirements.
Below is today's message from the ARRL  HQ's Contest Manager,  Paul
Bourque,  N1SFE that explains a change to the listing of club names for
Field Day  participants . ALL participants will have that participant's
club name associated with their listing.
 
         73, Kermit Carlson W9XA
 
details followed,,
 
>From the ARRL NEWS;
 
04/22/2020
 
This year, ARRL Field Day promises to be a unique iteration of this
annual event, with many individuals and groups coming up with new and
interesting ways to adjust their approach. As an event, Field Day is
structured to be versatile and can be adapted for any situation.
 
Many groups have asked how they can adjust their Field Day planning to
address social-distancing guidelines that may be in effect in many areas
of the country, as gathering at their traditional Field Day site may not
be feasible or safe. Instead of participating in a group event this
year, consider operating as a Class B, C, D, or E station, utilizing
your own call sign.
 
ARRL will include club names for all participating stations in the
published results, so the efforts of your club’s members can be
acknowledged. While we will not publish an aggregate club score, seeing
the name of your club associated with various individual member’s
results is certainly a way to highlight your club’s activity.
 
Myriad opportunities are possible in this year’s Field Day setting.
These are just a couple.
 
    Consider having an intra-club competition among members, seeing who
can make the most contacts during the event. You can award prizes or
distribute certificates at a club meeting. This can be a fun way to
bolster the activities of individual club members, even though they
cannot all gather together at the same location this year.
    Set up a Field Day Challenge with rival clubs in neighboring
communities. See how many members of each club get on the air from their
own stations and participate in the event. In addition to “bragging
rights,” perhaps certificates to the top-scoring individual entries in
each category can be presented as part of this inter-club camaraderie.
 
One club is planning to conduct its Field Day as a 4A club group, with
participants spaced to comply with social distancing guidelines within
the required 1,000-foot diameter circle and operating individual
stations. This club also plans to set up a “Get on the Air” (GOTA)
station. The club’s plan is to have the GOTA coach at the Field Day
site, while GOTA operators participate via remote link.
 
Another club is planning to set up a remote-controlled station at its
usual Field Day site, with club members taking turns controlling the
station from their homes. The club is developing a schedule that
outlines when each member of the club will be at the helm via the remote
link.
 
Whatever approach you take to this year’s Field Day, keep up to date
with the current guidelines issued by local and state health agencies
that may impact your proposed operation.
 
ARRL invites your stories about the interesting and creative ways
you’re planning to use to adapt your Field Day operation. Share these
on the ARRL Field Day Facebook page.
 
For the latest news and updates, visit the Field Day webpage. —
 
 Thanks to ARRL Contest Program Manager Paul Bourque, N1SFE
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
ARRL Central Division
Director: Kermit A Carlson, W9XA
w9xa@...
 




--
Diane Saunders
K0DSL
763-807-8772


Re: N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN

Diane Saunders
 

There is just one problem with N8SBE's statement that you can use the (or a) club's call sign while operating in a distributed multi-operator environment - "Use the club call (with the permission of the call trustee), and coordinate your operation so you remain within the max number of signals you wish to enter under.

The FD Rules, paragraph 4.1 specifically, says ALL equipment and antennas must be within that 1,000' diameter circle (see below).  You cannot do it as class A and use a club call when your operators are all outside of that circle operating via a WAN.  A club can use a LAN inside the circle to connect all of the operating positions to log under one call.  But for distributed multi-operator where the operators are outside of the circle, the only way this works is to go as an individual and all those individual operators connect via the distributed framework.  Then you can do it using a common call sign; it just can't be a club call.  Otherwise, you will have to operate your own and using your own call sign.



"4.1. (Class A) Club / non-club portable: Club or a non-club group of three or more persons set up
specifically for Field Day. Such stations must be located in places that are not regular station locations and must not
use facilities installed for permanent station use, or use any structure installed permanently for Field Day. A single
licensee or trustee for the entry is responsible for the group entry. All equipment (including antennas) must lie
within a circle whose diameter does not exceed 300 meters (1000 feet).
To be listed as Class A, all contacts must be
made with transmitter(s) and receiver(s) operating independent of commercial power mains. Entrants whom for any
reason operate a transmitter or receiver from a commercial main for one or more contacts will be listed separately as
Class A-Commercial."

This is how I see it.  Maybe the ARRL could comment on this.

Diane K0DSL


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:50 AM Dave New, N8SBE <n8sbe@...> wrote:
Folks,

In my mind, a pandemic is also a valid emergency situation, one which we don't even have to simulate these days. 

A pandemic has the peculiar feature of leaving the infrastructure largely intact (power, water, Internet, etc) while crippling all direct face-to-face interoperability, including the ability to put together classical multi-multi or multi-single operations.

That is where the adapting comes in.  And it turns out that no change in the FD rules are needed, either.  Operate as class 4E, for example, with multiple locations.  There is nothing in the FD rules prohibiting this.  Only class A stations need be located within a 1000 ft. circle.  Class E (and most others) have no such restriction.

So, run your distributed multi-multi under class E with a single callsign and claim the number of simultaneous transmitter/modes you have on the air, and Bob's your Uncle.  No need to qualify your entry.  Use the club call (with the permission of the call trustee), and coordinate your operation so you remain within the max number of signals you wish to enter under.  The only issue is keeping your neighbors sane while running a generator all night in a quiet neighborhood.  Maybe you can run from batteries all night?  Think outside the box.

I realize this means shifting the usual class A competition to class E, for this year at least, but it could be a lot worse.  Buck up, and stop whining.  Get out there and make this Field Day a success, using class E stations, instead of class A.  Maybe next year, we can go back to non-pandemic mode.  In the meantime, we will have successfully shown how we adapted to a pandemic situation and still managed to effectively jam the airwaves with signals.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE (Joint U of M and ARROW Field Day coordinator)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
From: "AB2ZY" <akozak@...>
Date: Tue, April 28, 2020 7:56 pm
To: "N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io" <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>

OK, that was my penultimate word. This is the ultimate:
 
Instead of operating with a large group, grab your IC-703 (or whatever you have), a  multiband dipole (G5RV or similar) or a multiband vertical (I have one I have been using “temporarily” for 2 years)  stuck in a bucket of sand with 16 radials, a camping generator and a laptop. Go out in your yard. The deck. Drive to a trailhead. Empty parking lot. Anywhere you can maintain social distancing. Operate from there, vying for mainly regional contacts. Operate 1B.  You will have fun. You will not need the internet.
 
Of course, if you go mainly for the food, beverages and company that may be less than satisfying. But still better than operating 1D.
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: Al Kozakiewicz
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:16 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: RE: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
My last word on the subject:
 
I “object” because you can’t simulate preparation for an actual emergency communications situation by assuming that the mainstream technologies that need replacing are fully functional in such an emergency!
 
I thought the ARRL’s suggested adaptations were within the spirit of FD while not turning it into another contest.
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:28 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
Sorry, Al, you are missing the point.  Distributed or co-located, all the QSOs are made in the traditional way with RF.  When the stations are co-located, the logging computers (instead of paper and pencil) are connected through a local network (LAN).  When “distributed”, the computers are networked through a Wide Area Network (WAN), i.e., the “internet”.  Computer to computer communication is essentially the same in either case, just the distance has changed.
 
I’m sure you know all this but I can’t understand why you would object to how the logging computers communicate with each other.
 
But all this aside, the real point I was making is the irony of the fact that ARRL was saying that we should “adapt” while refusing a request to do just that. And it has nothing to do with whether it’s a contest or not.
 
73, Ted W4NZ
 
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of AB2ZY
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:26 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
I dunno, but Field Day is supposed to be a simulation (perhaps stuck in a 1950s paradigm, but a simulation nonetheless) of using amateur radio to supplement or replace conventional communications infrastructure. So in the 21st century if you have access to a working Internet you have no need for supplemental wireless communications. If you’re going to have people sit home and communicate with radio equipment via the internet, then just conduct the exercise over the internet and dispense with the radios!  I think the ARRL is doing the right thing here. FD ain’t a contest!
 
Al
AB2ZY
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:58 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
“…we wrote to the ARRL Contest Committee folks suggesting that they adapt to the current situation by including a "distributed multi-op" category for Field Day 2020…”
 
“"The ARRL Board’s Programs & Services Committee has upheld the current Field Day posture of no changes for 2020 ….… the theme of adapting is apropos.”
 
HUH?
73, Ted W4NZ
 
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry K8UT
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:45 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Cc: wa8efk@...; Jahnke, Bart, W9JJ
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
Considering N1MM+'s recent VPN improvements - and the COVID-19 lockdowns - we wrote to the ARRL Contest Committee folks suggesting that they adapt to the current situation by including a "distributed multi-op" category for Field Day 2020.
 
The response:
"The ARRL Board’s Programs & Services Committee has upheld the current Field Day posture of no changes for 2020. Recognizing that Field Day is not a contest, but instead is an operating exercise, the theme of adapting is apropos."
 
As other contests have begun allowing distributed multi-op, we have heard from clubs that intend to operate Field Day in a similar distributed multi-op architecture. We advise any club that participates using an unsanctioned category to clearly identify their rules violation to the ARRL and in any log submission.
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
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From: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@...>
Sent: 2020-04-28 10:15:10
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
not really MM reflector content, but I read that newletter twice, and I dont see where they added a class 1A....
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Joe WB9SBD" <nss@...>
Sent: 4/28/2020 10:08:15 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM+ Distributed Multi Op LAN+WAN
 
My first about it came like this,
Dear Central Division Member -
 
        There have been many suggestions forchanges to the rules for
Field Day-2020 on account of the present social distancing requirements.
Below is today's message from the ARRL  HQ's Contest Manager,  Paul
Bourque,  N1SFE that explains a change to the listing of club names for
Field Day  participants . ALL participants will have that participant's
club name associated with their listing.
 
         73, Kermit Carlson W9XA
 
details followed,,
 
>From the ARRL NEWS;
 
04/22/2020
 
This year, ARRL Field Day promises to be a unique iteration of this
annual event, with many individuals and groups coming up with new and
interesting ways to adjust their approach. As an event, Field Day is
structured to be versatile and can be adapted for any situation.
 
Many groups have asked how they can adjust their Field Day planning to
address social-distancing guidelines that may be in effect in many areas
of the country, as gathering at their traditional Field Day site may not
be feasible or safe. Instead of participating in a group event this
year, consider operating as a Class B, C, D, or E station, utilizing
your own call sign.
 
ARRL will include club names for all participating stations in the
published results, so the efforts of your club’s members can be
acknowledged. While we will not publish an aggregate club score, seeing
the name of your club associated with various individual member’s
results is certainly a way to highlight your club’s activity.
 
Myriad opportunities are possible in this year’s Field Day setting.
These are just a couple.
 
    Consider having an intra-club competition among members, seeing who
can make the most contacts during the event. You can award prizes or
distribute certificates at a club meeting. This can be a fun way to
bolster the activities of individual club members, even though they
cannot all gather together at the same location this year.
    Set up a Field Day Challenge with rival clubs in neighboring
communities. See how many members of each club get on the air from their
own stations and participate in the event. In addition to “bragging
rights,” perhaps certificates to the top-scoring individual entries in
each category can be presented as part of this inter-club camaraderie.
 
One club is planning to conduct its Field Day as a 4A club group, with
participants spaced to comply with social distancing guidelines within
the required 1,000-foot diameter circle and operating individual
stations. This club also plans to set up a “Get on the Air” (GOTA)
station. The club’s plan is to have the GOTA coach at the Field Day
site, while GOTA operators participate via remote link.
 
Another club is planning to set up a remote-controlled station at its
usual Field Day site, with club members taking turns controlling the
station from their homes. The club is developing a schedule that
outlines when each member of the club will be at the helm via the remote
link.
 
Whatever approach you take to this year’s Field Day, keep up to date
with the current guidelines issued by local and state health agencies
that may impact your proposed operation.
 
ARRL invites your stories about the interesting and creative ways
you’re planning to use to adapt your Field Day operation. Share these
on the ARRL Field Day Facebook page.
 
For the latest news and updates, visit the Field Day webpage. —
 
 Thanks to ARRL Contest Program Manager Paul Bourque, N1SFE
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
ARRL Central Division
Director: Kermit A Carlson, W9XA
w9xa@...
 




--
Diane Saunders
K0DSL
763-807-8772


Missing Multipliers - Florida QSO Party

Norman Alexander
 

I participated in the Florida QSO Party in special category called Virtual Mobile where several of us operated with a common Station Call, but from different Counties all at different one hour periods.  I  created a New Log, using the QSO Party format and operating in State.  
The problem - The Scoring tally does not show the correct QSO count (it is less) then are listed in the log, and NO multiplier count is listed - thus no Score
Further, the Cabrillo file does show the correct number of QSO's, but does not list the State of the stations work, the RST report is there, but not the Multiplier/State

Examining the log in ADIF format, all the information is present, correct QSO count, and in the <APP_N1MM_EXCHANGE1  all the States or DX PFX are listed.
I have no idea how the CABRILLO file or the Scoring window processes the log data so at a loss of where to look -
Looking for answers to my question - "Now what do I do?"
--
Norm W4QN


Latest MorseRunner; deleting zero QSO logs from database

Pete Smith
 

In the latest Morserunner plug-in for MM, the only info you get is the standard Score window.  Any chance of getting a little more detail, a la Morserunner itself - like busted calls, exchanges?  And am I missing something, or will the program not let you delete contests with 0 QSOs from the database?

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