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Re: Rig Flipping from LSB DATA (RTTY) to CW

Danny Bush
 

Hey Tim,

John is spot on with his suggestion. I'm not in tron of my rigs but I can go through my settings with you this evening if that helps. I'd be glad to help, just let me know.

73,
Danny Bush - NF4J

On 8/18/20, 02:50 "John Bednar via groups.io" <k3ct@...> wrote:

Tim,

 

Check the Config, Mode Control tab window. The right side of the window is used to select the radio mode to associate to RTTY and Digi modes.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of timgep via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:04 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Rig Flipping from LSB DATA (RTTY) to CW

 

I tried to jump into the SARTG RTTY contest last weekend, and ran into a couple problems.   My rig is a TS-590SG, and my computer runs Windows 10 Pro, and I use N1MM + MMTTY.  Everything rand great in the Volta RTTY contest in May.   Seems like the "PTT Via Radio Command Digital Mode" box got checked, which prevented audio from going to my rig.  Turned that off, and fixed that.
I put the Mode Control as "Always RTTY".    Whenever I start the software, or type RTTY into the callsign field, my rig changes to CW.   Why is it doing this?

Tnx & 73,

Tim N6GP


Re: CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

ve3ki
 

The two Entry windows can have different CW speeds. Changing the speed in one has no effect on the other.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 06:33 AM, Geoff Way wrote:
Maybe what Slav hasn't told us yet is that he's running SO2R...

Maybe he likes to run at 38wpm or more but knows that using that speed
to answer on S&P might not give him the results he wants.

Does N1MM+ allow Entry Window "A" to be set at one speed and EW "B" a
different speed, and if not, should that be a feature request for SO2R?

-KA1IOR

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm
From: "John Bednar via groups.io" <k3ct@...>
Date: Tue, August 18, 2020 3:55 am
To: <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>


Slav,

We agree than an "initial" S&P CW speed is of little value when you change to accommodate the sender.

John, K3CT


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of EI6KW
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:05 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:56 AM, John Bednar wrote:

Thanks John, you've confirmed my guess.

I expect that you change the S&P CW speed often to accommodate the Run station
and conditions.
That's the point.
Slav, EI6KW





Re: Keyboard shortcuts with spectrum display window

Tom - N1MM
 

Leave the bandmap open and make it small if you are not interested in seeing it. 

Tom - N1MM


Keyboard shortcuts with spectrum display window

Jim N7US
 

I am just starting to use the spectrum display window using an SDRplay RSP1A connected to the IF OUT of my K3S.  I am using VA2FSQ's Win4K3Suite as the source of the spectrum data

The SHIFT-UP/DN keyboard shortcut is similar to the bandmap's CTL-UP/DN to QSY to the next station spotted except that it goes to the next signal received rather than the next station spotted, as understand it.  

I use the bandmap keyboard shortcuts to QSY to the next spot, using both the CTL-UP/DN to go to the next spot or CTL-ALT-UP/DN to go to the next new mult.  Both populate the entry window with the call of the station spotted.

Can that functionality be added to the spectrum display window?

Jim N7US


Re: CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

Geoff Way
 

Maybe what Slav hasn't told us yet is that he's running SO2R...

Maybe he likes to run at 38wpm or more but knows that using that speed
to answer on S&P might not give him the results he wants.

Does N1MM+ allow Entry Window "A" to be set at one speed and EW "B" a
different speed, and if not, should that be a feature request for SO2R?

-KA1IOR

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm
From: "John Bednar via groups.io" <k3ct=verizon.net@groups.io>
Date: Tue, August 18, 2020 3:55 am
To: <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>


Slav,

We agree than an "initial" S&P CW speed is of little value when you change to accommodate the sender.

John, K3CT


-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of EI6KW
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:05 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:56 AM, John Bednar wrote:

Thanks John, you've confirmed my guess.

I expect that you change the S&P CW speed often to accommodate the Run station
and conditions.
That's the point.
Slav, EI6KW





Re: Version for RDAC 2020 with updated RDAC.sec file.

Gilles DESANSAC F6IRA
 

Even no plenty time to full entry into RDAC special dev was just awsome work. Thanks. Gilles F6IRA

Le 14/08/2020 à 01:55, NA3M Nick a écrit :

     Unfortunately the updated RDAC.sec file did not make it in the latest official version of the logger (which is offered for installation automatically).

Those who would like to have an updated list of RDA districts (info taken from here: https://rdaward.org/rda_rus.txt ) will have to install this version:

 

https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/n1mm-logger-update-1-0-8573_rdac-exe-this-version-has-updated-rdac-sec-file/

 

     In RDAC it makes sense to use the CallHistory file, it makes it possible to see potential multipliers in the BandMap and Available windows. The updated CallHistory file for RDAC is located here (TNX Claude VE2FK):   https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/rdac-txt/

 

     The logger colors the callsigns of Russian /P stations in red (and marks them as M3 in the Log window). This is done to facilitate the search for such stations - they give 10 points each.  But according to the rules, such stations are not multipliers (unless they are located in the new RDA). This is important for Multi-One stations - when looking for a multiplier with a second transmitter (MULT radio), make sure that such /P station is really a multiplier, i.e. it should be colored not red but green like a double multiplier.

 

    If for same reason the logger refuses to log some RDA number you can force it by using Ctrl-Alt-Enter.

 

73 and Good Luck in the contest!

 

Nick NA3M


Re: Audio Tab DVR Set Up Help Requested

John Bednar
 

 

Bill,

 

As shown below, the first dropdown option is for SO1V/SO2V and the first SO2R option is for a single sound card.

 

Either of these selections would not work for SO2R with two soundcards in mono.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Gillenwater
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:17 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Audio Tab DVR Set Up Help Requested

 

Hello John,

 

I have two sound cards, both are wired mono to each radio. One is to an

FT1000MP and the other to a K3.

 

I selected option 1 in the audio options. And set radio 1 to one of the

sound cards and radio 2 to the other sound card.

 

Bill K3SV

 

 

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From: "John Bednar via groups.io" <k3ct@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:43 PM

To: <N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Audio Tab DVR Set Up Help Requested

 

> Bill,

> It's not clear how many soundcards you wired to your radios and which

> option did you select?

> If it was two soundcards were they wired for mono?

> John, K3CT

> -----Original Message-----

> From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf

> Of Bill Gillenwater

> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 2:59 PM

> To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

> Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Audio Tab DVR Set Up Help Requested

> Do a lot of these issues go away if you move to Windows 10? I notice

> in the Configuration menu using Windows 10 that there is a "Use N1MM

> Audio" or something to that affect. I figured with two sound cars, the

> one "on-board" and a separate SoundBlaster card I could direct the

> audio to Radio 1 and Radio 2. In the Configuration "Audio" settings it

> gives you options for two different sound cards. But I cannot get both

> to work with their specific radio. One of the other will work, but not

> both?

> Thanks,

> 73 Bill

> Quoting Bill Gillenwater <k3sv@...>:

>> So, can you run two sound cards in SO2R, one sound card for each

>> radio? I'm using XP and it doesn't appear that I can activate, or

>> specify, a sound card for a specific radio?

>> 

>> thanks,

>> Bill K3SV

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> From: ve3ki

>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 8:33 AM

>> To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [N1MM+] Audio Tab DVR Set Up Help Requested

>> 

>> 

>> This depends on the sound card and its driver. Some sound cards do

>> not have this capability. Call up the "Properties" for the sound

>> card's microphone input in the Control Panel, and look for a check

>> box called "Listen to this device" under the Listen tab, if there is

>> one.

>> 

>> 73,

>> Rich VE3KI

>> 

>> 

>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 08:05 AM, Mpridesti wrote:

>> 

>>   Rich

>> 

>>   Related challenge here: need to configure the sound card and

>> transfer from mic input port to output using Windows 7.

>> 

>>   I understand that in Win 7, Microsoft changed a lot in the sound

>> card.  Could offer specific instructions on configuring?

>> 

>> 

>>   Regards,

>> 

>>   Mark, K1RX

>> 

>> 

>> 

>>     On Aug 15, 2020, at 7:56 AM, ve3ki <ve3iay@...> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>>     The KX3 does not have a USB connector. What you are referring to

>> is most likely a KXUSB USB-to-serial adapter connected to the KX3's

>> ACC1 jack. This only carries radio control data; it cannot carry

>> audio.

>> 

>>     To use N1MM+'s digital voice recordings (wav files), you need to

>> connect your computer sound card's output to the KX3's mic jack.

>> This of course usurps the normal microphone connection. To use a

>> microphone, you would need to connect the microphone to the sound

>> card, and the sound card needs to be configured to transfer its

>> microphone input directly to its output. This will probably

>> introduce a digital processing delay between the microphone input

>> and the output from the radio, which means you will have to turn the

>> radio's monitor off to avoid hearing your own voice delayed while

>> you are speaking.

>> 

>>     The KX3 does have a built-in DVR with two recordable messages.

>> You can use CAT commands to transmit these messages from function

>> keys. This does not require any additional connections other than

>> your KXUSB, but it is limited to only the two memories in the radio.

>> 

>>     73,

>>     Rich VE3KI

>> 

>> 

>>     On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:34 AM, Timothy Eklin wrote:

>> 

>>       The only connection between the radio and the computer is a

>> USB cable. Is there other hardware or cables needed?

>> 

>> 

>>      Virus-free. www.avg.com

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

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Re: SARTG WW RTTY

Julian GW4JBQ
 

Thanks for the reply Les,  

  All sorted now, as Knut suggests the robot does it all. 

      73 de (GW4JBQ)


On 18 Aug 2020, at 08:57, Les Elliott via groups.io <g4ogb@...> wrote:

If you must....export an ADI file, delete all ‘other band’ qsos
create a new database, set up for the same contest, import
your ADI file, rescore.
Les, G4OGB
 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:15 AM
Subject: [N1MM+] SARTG WW RTTY
 
Single OP All Band entries are allowed to put in a Single Band Entry as well as the all band, anyone have any suggestion for the best way to export and rescore just the single band bit of the log from N1MM+ 


Re: SARTG WW RTTY

Les Elliott
 

If you must....export an ADI file, delete all ‘other band’ qsos
create a new database, set up for the same contest, import
your ADI file, rescore.
Les, G4OGB
 

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:15 AM
Subject: [N1MM+] SARTG WW RTTY
 
Single OP All Band entries are allowed to put in a Single Band Entry as well as the all band, anyone have any suggestion for the best way to export and rescore just the single band bit of the log from N1MM+ 


Re: CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

John Bednar
 

Slav,

We agree than an "initial" S&P CW speed is of little value when you change to accommodate the sender.

John, K3CT

-----Original Message-----
From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of EI6KW
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:05 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:56 AM, John Bednar wrote:

Thanks John, you've confirmed my guess.

I expect that you change the S&P CW speed often to accommodate the Run station
and conditions.
That's the point.
Slav, EI6KW


Re: Rig Flipping from LSB DATA (RTTY) to CW

John Bednar
 

Tim,

 

Check the Config, Mode Control tab window. The right side of the window is used to select the radio mode to associate to RTTY and Digi modes.

 

John, K3CT

 

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of timgep via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:04 AM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] Rig Flipping from LSB DATA (RTTY) to CW

 

I tried to jump into the SARTG RTTY contest last weekend, and ran into a couple problems.   My rig is a TS-590SG, and my computer runs Windows 10 Pro, and I use N1MM + MMTTY.  Everything rand great in the Volta RTTY contest in May.   Seems like the "PTT Via Radio Command Digital Mode" box got checked, which prevented audio from going to my rig.  Turned that off, and fixed that.
I put the Mode Control as "Always RTTY".    Whenever I start the software, or type RTTY into the callsign field, my rig changes to CW.   Why is it doing this?

Tnx & 73,

Tim N6GP


Re: SARTG WW RTTY

Julian GW4JBQ
 

Thanks Knut,

I think it’s just me being thick. I went back to it yesterday evening and realised that it wasn’t a test log but related to my contest log ie. gw4jbq.log. I did as you said and all is perfect so thank you for your help and thank you for the multiplier in the contest.

Julian (GW4JBQ)

On 18 Aug 2020, at 07:36, Knut Meland <knut.meland@getmail.no> wrote:

Check http://www.sartg.com/contest/wwrules.htm

I don't quite understand what you mean by "the test.log bit". In the rules check under headline Email log submissions.

Hopfully you find the answer there. If not, try the reflector again.

73 de Knut LA9RY

Den 17.08.2020 17.12, skrev Julian GW4JBQ:
Many Thanks for your reply Knut, that sounds quite logical, could you expand a bit on the test.log bit as I have not heard of this before.
Thanks de Julian (GW4JBQ)



Re: CW speeds in Run and S&P modes #n1mm

EI6KW
 

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:56 AM, John Bednar wrote:

Thanks John, you've confirmed my guess.

I expect that you change the S&P CW speed often to accommodate the Run station
and conditions.
That's the point.
Slav, EI6KW


Re: SARTG WW RTTY

Knut Meland
 

Check http://www.sartg.com/contest/wwrules.htm

I don't quite understand what you mean by "the test.log bit". In the rules check under headline Email log submissions.

Hopfully you find the answer there. If not, try the reflector again.

73 de Knut LA9RY

Den 17.08.2020 17.12, skrev Julian GW4JBQ:

Many Thanks for your reply Knut, that sounds quite logical, could you expand a bit on the test.log bit as I have not heard of this before.
Thanks de Julian (GW4JBQ)


Rig Flipping from LSB DATA (RTTY) to CW

timgep
 

I tried to jump into the SARTG RTTY contest last weekend, and ran into a couple problems.   My rig is a TS-590SG, and my computer runs Windows 10 Pro, and I use N1MM + MMTTY.  Everything rand great in the Volta RTTY contest in May.   Seems like the "PTT Via Radio Command Digital Mode" box got checked, which prevented audio from going to my rig.  Turned that off, and fixed that.
I put the Mode Control as "Always RTTY".    Whenever I start the software, or type RTTY into the callsign field, my rig changes to CW.   Why is it doing this?

Tnx & 73,

Tim N6GP


Re: N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

Jim W7RY
 

Yup!
No worries Larry.

I love my three...  two for FSK (for SO2R), and one for CW.


Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 8/17/2020 9:48 AM, Larry K8UT wrote:

Danny and Jim,

Thanks for those nice words about Mortty CW & RTTY Keyers.

Be advised that as of July 17, the new Mortty v4 is no longer a kit - sold Assembled and Tested. The new v4 features required miniaturization and surface mount parts. DIY kit-building was no longer an option.


-larry (K8UT)

------ Original Message ------
From: "Danny Bush" <NF4J@...>
Sent: 2020-08-17 9:23:14 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

Ive heard good things about the MORTTY, Thanks Jim... I'll check it out
 
Danny  NF4J
 
 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 at 8:04 AM
From: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
No. I use a MORTTY for fsk.  Do a search for it if you want.
 
 
 
Thanks and 73 W7RY
Sent from my wireless communicator
 
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:58 AM Danny Bush <NF4J@...> wrote:
Good Morning Jim,
 
Thank you for the help. Are you by chance running a 590SG in the same configuration that I was trying to figure out?
 
73,
Danny  NF4J
 
 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 5:53 PM
From: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
It must be in RTTY mode.

 
Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 8/16/2020 4:57 PM, Rick Ellison wrote:

What mode does the TS590SG need to be in for FSK RTTY??

73 Rick

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny Bush
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

 

Rick,

 

Thanks for replying...

 

I am trying to set it up as you explained: I want to use N1MM as the Control Software (and Radio Control) utilizing the Winkey to transmit FSK RTTY through my 590SG, with MMTTY being the Receiver. I just cannot get it to all work together. I feel like I am missing a setting somewhere...

 

73,

Danny NF4J

 

 

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 3:36 PM
From: "Rick Ellison" <rellison@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

Danny..

Are you trying to get the Winkey to work thru MMTTY or are you trying to use the Winkey device thru N1MM and trying to use MMTTY as the receiver. The Winkey is a supported device and has its own settings built into N1MM. When using the Winkey this way You use MMTTY or any of the other engines in N1MM as the receiver and Winkey does all of the transmitting.

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny Bush
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 3:50 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

 

Hey All,

Are there any of you of whom have Successfully Interfaced N1MM/MMTTY with a Kenwood TS590SG and the K1EL WKUSB Winkeyer3 for True FSK RTTY?

Before the replies of "what for" start coming in, I do not want this to start a war about AFSK vs FSK... I am simply looking for anyone who has been able to complete the Task described above because I have Not been able to do it and make it work 100%. Here is what I have completed to this point and I have been trying to finalize for 8 months:

I have the 13pin DIN cables from the rigs to the K1EL WKUSB winkeyers - These have the new software for RTTY use. I have used N1MM/MMTTY many times for RTTY contests so the setup as a whole does work very well for AFSK. What I have not been able to do is get all of the N1MM/MMTTY settings to work with the Winkeyer and Rigs correctly for FSK...and by rigs I mean that I have (2) stations setup exactly the same, one is mine and the other is my XYL's. If I use the winkeyer as a stand alone with the rig, it works Great with FSK...the problem starts when I try to add N1MM and MMTTY to the mix.

The biggest issue now is that when I try to transmit, I have ZERO transmit monitor...meaning I cannot hear what my rig is transmitting. Any changes I make either in N1MM or MMTTY result in a high pitch squeal, not exactly feedback, but a squeal. I would Greatly appreciate any input from anyone of whom has been able to get this combination to work. I have been talking with a Guy that has a WKMini winkeyer3 working with his 590SG, but he has a breakout box and other peripherals involved. I have also Spoken with Steve - K1EL, he has suggested using Fldigi, but I really want to use MMTTY... I know it can be done, I just need some help Guys. Anyone??

73,
Danny  NF4J

 

 

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Re: DupeQSOMinutesAgo

Ian MacPherson <ian@...>
 

Tom,

We are running a small intra-club contest to introduce the new hams in the club into hf operating, contesting and using N1MM for logging.

When the numbers are low we are thinking of letting them log a dupe, after say 10 minutes, rather than getting bored waiting for the next period to start.

However we also want to alert them for the procedure for dupes.  Initial reaction for most is not to log it.  However if the other station did not log the original then you need to log it for both stations to have a legit contact in their logs.

On the other hand we need to train the new ops how to handle a dupe.  Sometimes there is a relatively long time wasted when the other op thinks it is a dupe (but you don't) and you want to get a legit contact.

I see NA3M has tested and answered further up the page so I will send him my udc file.

Thanks,

Ian

On 18/08/2020 12:38 am, Tom - N1MM wrote:
I don't know the answer to the original poster's question. i.e. why it is not working as he expects.  Wait fo NA3M or G4OGB to answer that. 

To those that say "always work dupes", in this case you are wrong.  Some contests that have low participation rates allow dupes for points after a certain period.  Facilitating conformance to that rule is what this parameter is about. 

Tom - N1MM


Intermittent PTT solved

WA8Y Steven
 

Intermittent problem are always the worst.
And like in this case, they can be so misleading.

The problem has nothing to do with N1MM+ .

Thank you Larry K8UT, Andy KU7T and other who took time to help me.

The problem was in my Amplifier.  And it presented itself when the problem became permanent. 
I suspect that during CW Contesting I got too much RF into the Software (Arduino or Rpi) .  I made a new SD card disk image of the software for the Raspberry Pi.  I have to rebuild all my ATU memories for the Arduino.  That might take a few days.

But PTT from any macro seems to work just fine now.


Re: Function keys activate rig but don't transmit any audio

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 

Most of the answer seem to have you looking at the sound card functions and assignments in Windows.  Have you also checked that the correct sound device is still selected in N1MM?  When windows reenumerates sound devices it tends to impact the application as well.

73,

Drew K3PA


Re: N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

Danny Bush
 

Thanks Larry,
 
I am an Fldigi, N1MM and MMTTY user that also has (2) WKUSB and (1) WKMini Winkeyer3's. The digital interfaces I use really depends on the Contest and Mode I am working...so I use a combination of them as you can see.
 
The above WKUSB's are on the (2) TS590SG's in my shack and the WKMini is something I have been playing with on my portable rig - a Kenwoord TS480SAT, which is the rig I would interface with the Mortty, and why I would likely choose the Fldigi NanoIO Sketch. I'm about to grab one from your website so unless you have any other suggestions, I really appreciate your help Larry...I enjoy having the hardware that makes what we do all come together.
 
73,
Danny  NF4J

 
 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 at 1:33 PM
From: "Larry K8UT" <K8UT@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
Danny,
 
The answer is a qualified yes, with the advice that you should not allow a cheap keyer to be the decision-making factor on which digital package you operate.
  • If you are already an fldigi user, then a nanoIO decision is a no-brainer
  • If you are an MMTTY or 2Tone RTTY user, then TinyFSK would probably be better (but you will lose the CW Keyer feature. Buy a second Mortty for CW? ;) 
  • If you are an MMTTY or 2Tone RTTY user, and want excellent CW performance, and like the advantage of having both modes delivered from one device, then the K1EL Winkeyer3 is your best option
Finally - keep in mind that if you purchase Mortty with nanoIO pre-installed and later regret that decision, flashing Mortty with one of the other two options is a 60 second exercise.
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Danny Bush" <NF4J@...>
Sent: 2020-08-17 2:08:10 PM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
 
Hey Larry,
 
Can the Fldigi NanoIO Sketch be used with the combination of Fldigi and N1MM as a contest combination? I like the versatility of having dual configurations in the Mortty CW/RTTY package.
 
Danny
 
 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 at 9:48 AM
From: "Larry K8UT" <K8UT@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
Danny and Jim,
 
Thanks for those nice words about Mortty CW & RTTY Keyers.
 
Be advised that as of July 17, the new Mortty v4 is no longer a kit - sold Assembled and Tested. The new v4 features required miniaturization and surface mount parts. DIY kit-building was no longer an option.
 
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Danny Bush" <NF4J@...>
Sent: 2020-08-17 9:23:14 AM
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
 
Ive heard good things about the MORTTY, Thanks Jim... I'll check it out
 
Danny  NF4J
 
 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 at 8:04 AM
From: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
No. I use a MORTTY for fsk.  Do a search for it if you want.
 
 
 
Thanks and 73 W7RY
Sent from my wireless communicator
 
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:58 AM Danny Bush <NF4J@...> wrote:
Good Morning Jim,
 
Thank you for the help. Are you by chance running a 590SG in the same configuration that I was trying to figure out?
 
73,
Danny  NF4J
 
 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 5:53 PM
From: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY
It must be in RTTY mode.

 
Thanks
73
Jim W7RY
On 8/16/2020 4:57 PM, Rick Ellison wrote:

What mode does the TS590SG need to be in for FSK RTTY??

73 Rick

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny Bush
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:19 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

 

Rick,

 

Thanks for replying...

 

I am trying to set it up as you explained: I want to use N1MM as the Control Software (and Radio Control) utilizing the Winkey to transmit FSK RTTY through my 590SG, with MMTTY being the Receiver. I just cannot get it to all work together. I feel like I am missing a setting somewhere...

 

73,

Danny NF4J

 

 

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 3:36 PM
From: "Rick Ellison" <rellison@...>
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

Danny..

Are you trying to get the Winkey to work thru MMTTY or are you trying to use the Winkey device thru N1MM and trying to use MMTTY as the receiver. The Winkey is a supported device and has its own settings built into N1MM. When using the Winkey this way You use MMTTY or any of the other engines in N1MM as the receiver and Winkey does all of the transmitting.

 

73 Rick N2AMG

 

From: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io [mailto:N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny Bush
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 3:50 PM
To: N1MMLoggerPlus@groups.io
Subject: [N1MM+] N1MM/MMTTY with TS590SG and Winkeyer3 for RTTY

 

Hey All,

Are there any of you of whom have Successfully Interfaced N1MM/MMTTY with a Kenwood TS590SG and the K1EL WKUSB Winkeyer3 for True FSK RTTY?

Before the replies of "what for" start coming in, I do not want this to start a war about AFSK vs FSK... I am simply looking for anyone who has been able to complete the Task described above because I have Not been able to do it and make it work 100%. Here is what I have completed to this point and I have been trying to finalize for 8 months:

I have the 13pin DIN cables from the rigs to the K1EL WKUSB winkeyers - These have the new software for RTTY use. I have used N1MM/MMTTY many times for RTTY contests so the setup as a whole does work very well for AFSK. What I have not been able to do is get all of the N1MM/MMTTY settings to work with the Winkeyer and Rigs correctly for FSK...and by rigs I mean that I have (2) stations setup exactly the same, one is mine and the other is my XYL's. If I use the winkeyer as a stand alone with the rig, it works Great with FSK...the problem starts when I try to add N1MM and MMTTY to the mix.

The biggest issue now is that when I try to transmit, I have ZERO transmit monitor...meaning I cannot hear what my rig is transmitting. Any changes I make either in N1MM or MMTTY result in a high pitch squeal, not exactly feedback, but a squeal. I would Greatly appreciate any input from anyone of whom has been able to get this combination to work. I have been talking with a Guy that has a WKMini winkeyer3 working with his 590SG, but he has a breakout box and other peripherals involved. I have also Spoken with Steve - K1EL, he has suggested using Fldigi, but I really want to use MMTTY... I know it can be done, I just need some help Guys. Anyone??

73,
Danny  NF4J

 

 

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