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Re: N1MM and K3DVK in a Multi-op set-up

Bill OMara <w4rm@...>
 

Pete,

 

Thanks for the reply,  I have four stations in my contest set-up and three of those station use Microham MKIIs and we have the Operator Wave file stored and working just fine using the OPON process.  The fourth station a K3 with K3DVK doesn’t have any way to change the operator memory file as N1MM doesn’t (to the best of my knowledge) allow the user to configure different SSB  “Functional Key Definitions” for each operator.  If this was the case then I could modify the “Functional Key Definitions” for each operator to point to a different pre-recorded memory bank in the K3 and then they would have their own CQ message.

 

I realize that this solution would only be need by the MM and M2 stations but would really help.

 

Unless someone else has figure out a way around the problem and that’s what I was looking for in my post.

 

Thanks again

 

73 Bill  W4RM

 

From: Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr@... [N1MMLoggerplus] [mailto:N1MMLoggerplus@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 11:52 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: Re: [N1MMLoggerplus] N1MM and K3DVK in a Multi-op set-up

 

 

Bill, here's how we beat this, but not with the KDVR3.  I can understand why people may want to use the KDVR3, because you don't have to worry about interconnection between your computer and the K3 audio, but really, if you take a few simple precautions like grounding the computer and transceiver to the same good ground, it works beautifully.  For one thing, you can set your live and recorded levels separately,  feed your live audio through the same sound card and have one-knob control of both live and recorded levels.


4.1. Stored Voice Messages in a Multi-Op (Any multi-op)

If you are using stored voice messages in a phone contest and you change operators while using the same stored voice messages, the voices heard over the air could vary during a single QSO between recorded messages and live voicing. This can be very confusing to the other station. To avoid this, it is best to have each operator record a separate complete set of voice keyer messages. To do this, create a separate subfolder for each operator within your wav files folder, labelled with that operator's call sign. Make sure the paths to your wav files in your function key messages includes the {OPERATOR} macro, as in "\{OPERATOR}\CQ.wav". Before the contest, have each operator enter his or her call sign with Ctrl+O or OPON and then record all of the voice keyer messages in his or her own voice. Once the messages are all set up, the Logger will use the operator call sign entered during the contest with Ctrl+O or OPON to select which set of recorded messages to use.

If your multi-op uses multiple computers, and if any individual operator will use more than one of these computers during the course of the contest, that operator will need to create and populate a subfolder with his personal wav files on each of the computers that he or she will be using.



73, Pete N4ZR
Download the new N1MM Logger+ at 
. Check 
out the Reverse Beacon Network at 
, now 
spotting RTTY activity worldwide. 
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/19/2015 11:10 AM, 'Bill OMara' w4rm@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:

 

N1MM and K3DVK in a  Multi-op set-up

 

I trying to figure out how to set-up my N1MM + file using my K3DVK for SSB Multi-op used in SSB contests.

 

I want to record eight different CQ messages (one for each operator in the team) M1- M8 in the K3DVK memory blank and have the operator use the OPON command in N1MM and have a different “SSB Function Key Definition” files for each operator that specifies with memory blank the operators CQ Message is recorded into.

 

Therefore when the operator uses OPON N1MM feature in a Multi-op set-up he can call CQ with his own recorded CQ Message.

 

But the problem I see is that the operate can OPON,  but N1MM only uses ONE “SSB Function Key Definition” file and therefore my plan doesn’t allow for each operator to have this feature.

 

I’m I missing something?

 

Any help would be great.

 

Thanks and 73 Bill  W4RM

 


Re: Newer Computer / Fresh Install / Choppy & Heavy CW

Les Elliott
 

Chris
Some people find an older driver works, but FTDI and Silab chipped USB to serial leads do work with NL+
Winkey removes doubt.
 
Les, G4OGB
 

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] Re: Newer Computer / Fresh Install / Choppy & Heavy CW
 
 

Hi Vytenis,

Thanks for the response.  Yes, it is a Prolific adapter.  I will go find an updated driver for it.  The computer is actually a Dell dual-core Intel machine with 2 GB of RAM.  I used a similar machine (different model, same specs) previously, and didn't have an issue.  A friend of mine was telling me about how he uses a WinKeyer with N1MM.  That way, the sending is removed from the computer, since it's sole job is to run N1MM.  Anyway, I appreciate the tips.  I will give these a try and hopefully that will take care of it.

73
Chris NS8Q


Re: N1MM and K3DVK in a Multi-op set-up

Pete Smith
 

Bill, here's how we beat this, but not with the KDVR3.  I can understand why people may want to use the KDVR3, because you don't have to worry about interconnection between your computer and the K3 audio, but really, if you take a few simple precautions like grounding the computer and transceiver to the same good ground, it works beautifully.  For one thing, you can set your live and recorded levels separately,  feed your live audio through the same sound card and have one-knob control of both live and recorded levels.


4.1. Stored Voice Messages in a Multi-Op (Any multi-op)

If you are using stored voice messages in a phone contest and you change operators while using the same stored voice messages, the voices heard over the air could vary during a single QSO between recorded messages and live voicing. This can be very confusing to the other station. To avoid this, it is best to have each operator record a separate complete set of voice keyer messages. To do this, create a separate subfolder for each operator within your wav files folder, labelled with that operator's call sign. Make sure the paths to your wav files in your function key messages includes the {OPERATOR} macro, as in "\{OPERATOR}\CQ.wav". Before the contest, have each operator enter his or her call sign with Ctrl+O or OPON and then record all of the voice keyer messages in his or her own voice. Once the messages are all set up, the Logger will use the operator call sign entered during the contest with Ctrl+O or OPON to select which set of recorded messages to use.

If your multi-op uses multiple computers, and if any individual operator will use more than one of these computers during the course of the contest, that operator will need to create and populate a subfolder with his personal wav files on each of the computers that he or she will be using.


73, Pete N4ZR
Download the new N1MM Logger+ at 
. Check 
out the Reverse Beacon Network at 
, now 
spotting RTTY activity worldwide. 
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.
On 12/19/2015 11:10 AM, 'Bill OMara' w4rm@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:

 

N1MM and K3DVK in a  Multi-op set-up

 

I trying to figure out how to set-up my N1MM + file using my K3DVK for SSB Multi-op used in SSB contests.

 

I want to record eight different CQ messages (one for each operator in the team) M1- M8 in the K3DVK memory blank and have the operator use the OPON command in N1MM and have a different “SSB Function Key Definition” files for each operator that specifies with memory blank the operators CQ Message is recorded into.

 

Therefore when the operator uses OPON N1MM feature in a Multi-op set-up he can call CQ with his own recorded CQ Message.

 

But the problem I see is that the operate can OPON,  but N1MM only uses ONE “SSB Function Key Definition” file and therefore my plan doesn’t allow for each operator to have this feature.

 

I’m I missing something?

 

Any help would be great.

 

Thanks and 73 Bill  W4RM



N1MM and K3DVK in a Multi-op set-up

Bill OMara <w4rm@...>
 

 

N1MM and K3DVK in a  Multi-op set-up

 

I trying to figure out how to set-up my N1MM + file using my K3DVK for SSB Multi-op used in SSB contests.

 

I want to record eight different CQ messages (one for each operator in the team) M1- M8 in the K3DVK memory blank and have the operator use the OPON command in N1MM and have a different “SSB Function Key Definition” files for each operator that specifies with memory blank the operators CQ Message is recorded into.

 

Therefore when the operator uses OPON N1MM feature in a Multi-op set-up he can call CQ with his own recorded CQ Message.

 

But the problem I see is that the operate can OPON,  but N1MM only uses ONE “SSB Function Key Definition” file and therefore my plan doesn’t allow for each operator to have this feature.

 

I’m I missing something?

 

Any help would be great.

 

Thanks and 73 Bill  W4RM


Re: Newer Computer / Fresh Install / Choppy & Heavy CW

Steve London
 

On 12/19/2015 08:30 AM, ceranes@... [N1MMLoggerplus] wrote:
Hi Vytenis,

Thanks for the response. Yes, it is a Prolific adapter. I will go find
an updated driver for it. The computer is actually a Dell dual-core
Intel machine with 2 GB of RAM. I used a similar machine (different
model, same specs) previously, and didn't have an issue. A friend of
mine was telling me about how he uses a WinKeyer with N1MM. That way,
the sending is removed from the computer, since it's sole job is to run
N1MM.
Your friend is giving you excellent advice !

73,
Steve, N2IC


Re: Newer Computer / Fresh Install / Choppy & Heavy CW

Bedrock305
 

Hi Vytenis,

Thanks for the response.  Yes, it is a Prolific adapter.  I will go find an updated driver for it.  The computer is actually a Dell dual-core Intel machine with 2 GB of RAM.  I used a similar machine (different model, same specs) previously, and didn't have an issue.  A friend of mine was telling me about how he uses a WinKeyer with N1MM.  That way, the sending is removed from the computer, since it's sole job is to run N1MM.  Anyway, I appreciate the tips.  I will give these a try and hopefully that will take care of it.

73
Chris NS8Q


SocketException

Uwe Hermanns
 

Hello,


I am using version 1.0.5375.0 and everytime I hit "ALT+J" my info window shows the message "SocketException...".  Furthermore there is a failure in the NetworkStatus-Window.

My rotor is working fine...


73 de Uwe, DL4AC




Re: User Defined Contest not loading

Brian D
 

I tried the downloaded UDC but it didn't seem to offer the correct entry
fields. I checked what I used last year, and did the same, set up as
russianDX, and changed the cabrillo headers after teh contest.

Worked fine, included the correct oblast codes etc for the sections
multiplier window.

Brian D
G3VGZ

"Björn SM0MDG bjorn@... [N1MMLoggerplus]"
<N1MMLoggerplus@...> wrote:

I tried to setup N1MM+ for RUSSIAN160 to log a Qs few for fun. I could not
get N1MM+ to load the UDC file downloaded from the N1MM+ website.

Any known issues with UDC? Anyone else on Win10 with issues? (I am running
N1MM+ on a parallels Win10 virtual machine). This setup works well except
for this.

73 de Björn, SM0MDG SE0X











--
Brian D
G3VGZ


Re: Newer Computer / Fresh Install / Choppy & Heavy CW

Vytenis LY5T
 

Hi Chris
You did not say what chip is used in USB/Serial adapter for CW/PTT, but I guess its Prolific. CW sending is changed a lot in N1MM+ compared to classic version. First step is update USB/Serial adapter driver to the latest available. Get it on the web.
Second step (if first doesn't help)  if you have one native Serial port and another over USB adapter, you can try to swap these ports. I mean native port for CW/PTT and USB/serial for CAT. Chances are you get working all of them.
Third step is to replace adapter with FTDI chip USB-Serial adapater. According many reports, these works much more reliably.
Also, I wouldn't use Win7 with single core PC and RAM less than 2GB

Vytenis
ly5t


Newer Computer / Fresh Install / Choppy & Heavy CW

Bedrock305
 

I have a newer computer now with a fresh installation of N1MM+ running on a 32-bit Windows 7 machine.  N1MM is connected to the radio and computer with one serial cable and a second serial cable connected to a USB adapter.  The Radio is a Yaesu FT-757GX2.

The program will key the radio, and it sounds OK up to 20 WPM.  As soon as I start to increase the speed above 20, it comes out extremely choppy and heavy sounding.  I knew it never did that using the previous version of N1MM, and it worked flawlessly after updating it on the older computer.  As soon as I switched to the newer machine, it started acting up.  Any thoughts??

73
Chris NS8Q



Re: lpt question

Terry Glagowski / W1TR / AFA1DI
 

Bill,

I can confirm that the USB to Serial RS-232 converter cable made by PI MFG will work

For Win2K, WinXP, Win7, Win8, Win8.1, Win10.

I’ve been using them for over a decade.

http://www.pimfg.com/Product-Detail/UN8BE

Be sure the chip set for any USB to RS-232 Serial is FTDI and NOT Prolific.

 

73, Terry / W1TR  :  )

 

From: N1MMLoggerplus@... [mailto:N1MMLoggerplus@...]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 18:43
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: RE: [N1MMLoggerplus] lpt question

 

 

Thanks guys for the info and options, Nothing like planning ahead.

Bill, AI3Q


Re: lpt question

Bill Feissner
 

Thanks guys for the info and options, Nothing like planning ahead.
Bill, AI3Q


User Defined Contest not loading

SM0MDG
 

I tried to setup N1MM+ for RUSSIAN160 to log a Qs few for fun. I could not get N1MM+ to load the UDC file downloaded from the N1MM+ website.

Any known issues with UDC? Anyone else on Win10 with issues? (I am running N1MM+ on a parallels Win10 virtual machine). This setup works well except for this.

73 de Björn,
SM0MDG
SE0X










Re: lpt question

Joe Shuey <joeshuey@...>
 

Hi Bill .. .you have a few options.

 - Add a serial Port Board to the computer

- Add a parallel port board to the computer

- use something like a Digi/4 or 8 which plugs to a usb port and provides 4 or 8 serial ports.

- use a USB adaptor to go to serial or parallel port

 

Adding boards are usually trouble free... make sure you get one that is compatible with your mother board (will plug in) and your operating system.

I have (and use currently) a Digi/8 and it works flawlessly.

From what I have read.. the USB adaptors are a bit risky. Follow the advice of the experts on which driver chips to avoid.

 

Good Luck,

Joe  NE3H

 

From: N1MMLoggerplus@... [mailto:N1MMLoggerplus@...]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 10:49 AM
To: N1MMLoggerplus@...
Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] lpt question

 

 

I have an older computer that still has an lpt port. I use a W1WEF interface for cw. My question is. When I upgrade my computer there will be no lpt port, could I use a usb to lpt port converter and plug the interface into it to get my cw to work like it presently does? I have zero problems and would like to keep this system. Any Ideas if this will work or not? Thanks in advance.

Bill, AI3Q


Two updated SKCC CallHist files uploaded to N1MMLogger Plus

Jan Pieter Oelp
 

 
This email message is a notification to let you know that two files has been uploaded to the Files area of the N1MMLoggerPlus group.
 
CallHist_SKCC.txt
and
CallHist_SKCC_EVENT_WES_SPRINT.txt both up to SKCC #14760
 
Editor of this files: Jan Pieter Oelp PA3CLQ SKCC #2765
 
SKCC.zip include:
SKCCEVENT for K3Y Anniversary Events in january.
SKCCWES for monthly Weekend Sprintathon
SKCCSPRINT for monthly Two hour SK Sprint or monthly Two hour SK Eurosprint.
CallHist files added.
Uploaded by : Les G4OGB
 
Description : SKCC.zip Exchange is in the order RST-S RST-R SPC(SKCC Country Codes) Name SKCC#
For SKCC Country Codes / SPC-List see:
http://www.skccgroup.com/display_spc_list.php
You can accesss the file SKCC.zip at the URL:
 
To learn more about UDC (User Defined Contest) see:
 
Thanks, & 73, Jan Pieter Oelp, pa3clq@... PA3CLQ, SKCC #2765
 
In January QRV as "K3Y DX Operations from the Netherlands" with the Callsign PH6SKCC SKCC #5031C
QRV as CW Operator of the Dutch Old Timer Club OTC with the Callsign PI4OTC SKCC #5315
QRV as CW Operator of RAG with the Callsign PI4RAG SKCC #5624
 
www.pa3clq.nl/ about Gigantic DF-Antennas


Re: Winter Field Day (WFD) UDC ?

dvhammer_99
 

Woops !!  Looks like the UDC has been written by G4OGB three days ago, and is now on the UDC Supported Contest list.  I checked before that date.  Thanks so much !

73,
Dale  K9NN


After 1.0.5375 .ini file rotor control string deletion

jpescatore@...
 

In a N1MM+ network setup with rotor control running on one position PC, doing the 1.0.5375 update seems to blow away the External Broadcast/BroadcastRotorAddr string in the.ini file. Lost rotator control and then started seeing wierd things like N1MMRotor showing up as multiple network positions. Manually restoring the string to the .ini files fixes.


Any one else seeing similar behavior? Some reason this could happen?


73 John K3TN

 


Winter Field Day (WFD) UDC ?

dvhammer_99
 

Anyone writing or has written the UDC for the upcoming Winter Field Day?  Website and rules are at:

Winter Field Day Assoc.


Thanks.


73,

Dale  K9NN


Re: lpt question

Vytenis LY5T
 

No. USB-LPT interface won't work. It is clearly stated in the documentation. You need PCI-LPT card or something like that.

Vytenis
ly5t


lpt question

Bill Feissner
 

I have an older computer that still has an lpt port. I use a W1WEF interface for cw. My question is. When I upgrade my computer there will be no lpt port, could I use a usb to lpt port converter and plug the interface into it to get my cw to work like it presently does? I have zero problems and would like to keep this system. Any Ideas if this will work or not? Thanks in advance.

Bill, AI3Q